Blood God rework

[thorny hinge]

The ability was just reworked to no longer have a dimension. The E now summons spikes to deal damage and slow you down.

We've been seeing a lot of backlash, so let's see below if you really don't mind the rework or actually want it reverted.

# UPDATE: the dimension is now back as an R ability. See the post "Blood God R" to submit your feedback.

[cinder wedge]

Why?

[full saddle]

unprofessional crits

rework isnt capitalized

[whole granite]

Why?

[dusky plume]

just feels like its stripped of its main ability

[whole granite]

I just want it back cuz portal badge is lackluster now

[cinder wedge]

yea its cuz the main part of it made the ability feel unfun and forced and defeats the purpose of the game

[thorny hinge]

it makes more sense tho

it being locked behind bg was stupid

[topaz creek]

• 3 bugs every update

[onyx sundial]

+10 bugs every minute too trust

[whole granite]

Bro how is portal related to astral realm

besides the mastery

💀

[thorny hinge]

you visit a new dimension

[cinder wedge]

Cuz u teleport to a diff dimension

[whole granite]

The same can be said about any other dimensions

[reef dock]

i'm just gonna come out and say it, i like this change

[whole granite]

I just hope they made a unique obtainment instead of ditching it to just visiting the astral realm

[thorny hinge]

it's just portal bro there is no need to be unique about it

[whole granite]

idk bri it feels like a waste

😭

[full saddle]

glad people like the change

but E needs a nerf

[bitter trout]

how to make Blood God cooler?

[full saddle]

add more blood

[onyx sundial]

add more gods

[full saddle]

🩸

[onyx sundial]

say that again

[whole granite]

add both of what the name implies

[full saddle]

that

that

[onyx sundial]

TUFF

[whole granite]

he said say that again

not that

[onyx sundial]

hmm 🧐

[full saddle]

that

[onyx sundial]

that again

[whole granite]

that again

[bitter trout]

what if

Domain Expansion?

like an actual black sphere domain expansion for blood god

[whole granite]

sure

[topaz creek]

Q leaves a trail that slows people down

[whole granite]

remove spikes though

and enable abilities

[thorny hinge]

💀

[whole granite]

cuz u know they are the point of the game

[whole granite]

Bro let him tester unrust

😭

[topaz creek]

I am jk cuz crits said he hates slowing lol

[thorny hinge]

i mean most people clearly don't want bg changed

we will see how this holds up tomorrow tho

[whole granite]

POV ur doing a non mas bounty hunter 1v1

[whole granite]

2/3rds so far

[olive gale]

guhh

[chilly karma]

REVERT REVERT REVERT

[grim geyser]

REVERT REVERT REVERT

[whole granite]

@thorny hinge vote is changing

it’s almost 50/50

[thorny hinge]

lets see how long that lasts..

[cold acorn]

REVERT REVERT REVERT

REVERT REVERT REVERT

REVERT REVERT REVERT

Ik ur reading this

The blood god old version was a option to 1v1 with players

[cinder wedge]

Was not an option for the opponent

[cold acorn]

As a ability wars player
I can’t accept this

But it was a future that we could 1v1

The bugs could easily have been fixed

[grim geyser]

Or maybe 1v1 skill is a badge.

[cold acorn]

If the owner really wanted to fix it he could

[thorny hinge]

you still can

what

private servers exist

[cold acorn]

Maybe the owner should add a 1v1 future

[thorny hinge]

already exists

[livid ice]

/1v1 user

[thorny hinge]

type /1v1 or /duel

[livid ice]

(in duels)

[cold acorn]

But the legendary blood god 1v1 was so great

[livid ice]

yes

[topaz creek]

not so legendary

[livid ice]

u just hate bg cuz u main dos

[cold acorn]

( In duels) not in the public original server

[topaz creek]

No

[livid ice]

yes

[topaz creek]

I literally used bg to target people who target me and they weren’t able to do anything

[cold acorn]

Yes

A thing that we can 1v1

[thorny hinge]

it w as

[cold acorn]

With no abilities allowed

[thorny hinge]

was

literally

a forced 1v1

[cold acorn]

It was

[thorny hinge]

they had no choice but to 1v1 u

like how is that not obnoxious to you

[cold acorn]

They had one choice

[thorny hinge]

WHAT choice bro

[cold acorn]

They could reset

[thorny hinge]

that just proves my ppint

[cinder wedge]

This is ability wars tho

[cold acorn]

Thats what most player will do

[thorny hinge]

the ability is so obnoxious that you have to reset

[cold acorn]

In the bg e i mean

[cinder wedge]

im aware

[livid ice]

Dos buffed

W

[cinder wedge]

Nerfing dos next update dw

[cold acorn]

I hope they bring the old bg version back

😦

[flint lark]

NOO please dont for 2 weeks I need to destroy some servers first

[livid ice]

chat is this for real

[cold acorn]

😭

[topaz creek]

Yea no more 300

Or 200

[chilly karma]

revert ts 😔

[hallow arch]

REVERT THE CHANGE

I MASTERED BG AND NOW ITS STRAIGHT TRASH

[cinder wedge]

mastered bg aka press E then just default pvp someone

seems fun

[whole granite]

Abilities are boring

[hallow arch]

ok that could work

[hallow arch]

but how do you get it

[cinder wedge]

#faq

[hallow arch]

huh

oh

i accedentaly pressed self destruct instead of lockdown

[chilly karma]

people who complain abt blood god just need to get better 🤷‍♂️

[thorny hinge]

i am good at the game and i dislike it

😭

wtf is this excuse

[chilly karma]

the best excuse

[thorny hinge]

it's so lame

[chilly karma]

there is so many ways that it could've been fixed and still kept the dimension

[hallow arch]

wild rage bait

[chilly karma]

truth bait

the truth is crazy in a world full of lies

[misty kettle]

Saying revert without giving any reason is a shit argument

[hallow arch]

atleast we still haveportal to stunlock ppl by wall comboing them

[hallow arch]

revert it because it sucks now and is very boring to use

[cinder wedge]

yes but ur forgetting its not meant to be the most op ability

[misty kettle]

That’s not a reason bro

[cinder wedge]

its less than 20k punches

[chilly karma]

fr it's so unoriginal now

it's like every other ability

[misty kettle]

Just because an ability isn’t fun doesn’t mean it nerfs should be revert

[chilly karma]

yes it does

[hallow arch]

all they needed to do was remove the spikes and make it like the old tournaments and have the floor slowly get smaller

[misty kettle]

Brickbattler isn’t fun because you can’t do super explosion does that mean the nerf should be reverted

[chilly karma]

they should've just removed the healing and buffs

[misty kettle]

Super explosion did 65 damage aoe with kb

[misty kettle]

Wouldn’t change that much

[chilly karma]

exactly

[hallow arch]

what about the banana

and sling shot

[misty kettle]

Using blank ability isn’t fun isn’t an reason to buff it since fun is opinion based for different types players

[hallow arch]

bg needs a huge buff now

its spike ability does nothing

[misty kettle]

It does 30 damage

[chilly karma]

we need to revert + super buff blood god

so it's balanced again

[misty kettle]

Plus you have I frames with movement

[misty kettle]

You want the nerfs reverted and bg to be buffed?

[hallow arch]

bg dosent need a buff

just revert it and remove the extra 10 hp

and healing\

[chilly karma]

yes, blood god does 5x damage and 1000 knockback and the victim does -2 damage

[misty kettle]

40 max hp*

[hallow arch]

its only plus 10 hp

[cinder wedge]

that doesn't solve the issue

[misty kettle]

It isn’t plus 10 hp it 40

[chilly karma]

it does

[misty kettle]

No it doesn’t

[cinder wedge]

its still a forced 1v1 that is fun for nobody but the user

most cases ur only using blood god E as a cheap way to avoid fighting them properly with abilities

[misty kettle]

Waffle you only want it to be buffed since it isn’t fun without taking balancing into part

[chilly karma]

yeah it does cuz now the toenail eating LOSERS can't bitch about how the 1v1 is "unfair"

[cinder wedge]

unfair or not its still forced and mundane

defeats the entire purpose of the game

and its a cheap way to kill people

[hallow arch]

the poupous is to fight

[cinder wedge]

with abilities yeah

[misty kettle]

Fight with abilities

[cinder wedge]

kinda why its called ability wars

and not default wars

[chilly karma]

default is an ability

[cinder wedge]

or punch wars

[chilly karma]

sooooo

[thorny hinge]

default isn't really an ability

[misty kettle]

Default isn’t a ability

[cinder wedge]

yea so why do we need another ability that forces u to default pvp

[chilly karma]

it has a podium

[misty kettle]

If everything can do what default do than it isn’t an ability

Like syndrome saying when every supers nobody is

[chilly karma]

what if when someone is being dragged down they get an option to sacrifice some of there health to escape

[misty kettle]

So a force damage ability close range

Bg black hole is massive

[chilly karma]

wait

what else is massive

[misty kettle]

Your coping on bg being balanced

[chilly karma]

i'm not saying it isn't balanced it just lost its uniqueness

[tribal geyser]

Are you trying to tell me that you think bloodgod is balanced now?

One of the best movement abilities AND and strong aoe

[misty kettle]

Every ability in the game is almost unique

[vale helm]

robot is unique for being ass

[misty kettle]

I never knew robot was bad

[vale helm]

no

[misty kettle]

New knowledge

[vale helm]

its literally bad

its the worst ability

[thorny hinge]

lmao

[misty kettle]

Worst ability is kick

[vale helm]

no

kick is good

robot is the worst ability

in the damn game

[misty kettle]

The wrench does 25 damage and can rarely extends

[vale helm]

kick is also cool for being ONE OF THE FIRST ABILITIES

ever

[vale helm]

gl aiming it

also the robot is dumber then slowlico

[misty kettle]

All of these npcs reasons for bg nerf to be reverted is stupid

“Bg isn’t fun anymore”

[vale helm]

💀

no way

[misty kettle]

“Bg was a dos counter now killing dos is impossible”

“Revert”

[vale helm]

💀

dos is killable

[misty kettle]

“Aw is no longer skill base”

[vale helm]

bg js ruined the game

it wasnt fun

and dos is killable if some players ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER

once killed a dos 300 with health

[misty kettle]

“Blood god 1v1 was legendary”

[vale helm]

nahh

shitty ass ability

[misty kettle]

“Bg was balanced”

[vale helm]

how

tf

these dumbass npcs

[misty kettle]

“Bg new move is useless”

“Useless attacking ability”

[cinder wedge]

bg more like

bs

cuz that's what it used to be

[misty kettle]

“Revert but add domain as mastery”

These excuses are spammed by blood god mains 😭

[clear canopy]

The revert should make the price a bit less than before since it isn't as op as ping based 1v1 dimension

[wide crest]

tbh i think the e should be more ranged

thats all

[cold acorn]

Vote here

Please 🙏

[chilly karma]

vote revert

for 999999 robux

[crisp yacht]

i like the change but it does make bg a bit more tedious

maybe the Q should slow down players, not even a normal amount, just a bit

and i feel like the E move's pacement is kinda weird cause its right on you, maybe make it in front of u like jello

other than that, pretty cool

[tawny hawk]

it has no aspect of blood so
E ability 25-30 ( in a few seconds) --> Permanent DPS as long as the spikes are there (dps isn't very much)
Spike area is big
The Blood God Gains stat advantages if in the spike area
^ kinda replicates the dimension but u can actually escape it and it doesn't disable ur abilities
Blood God user heals off from players in area for 1 hp / sec for every person inside
Blood God Overheal up to 200, lose 1 overheal every second
Blood God Q deals slight damage overtime to people above and heals/overheal you for that amount (maybe around 2 DPS?)
very rough stats but u get the idea kinda cool in my opinion

the spike area could slow people too but that's kinda op for what I already gave it

i know it currently slows

this makes it more unique as an ability and kinda replicates it's "domain" feel

the overheal feature is what I want most icl

[burnt fulcrum]

there are better ideas for the ability

rather than the lame ass spike thing

[analog ferry]

Hi Mage Main

[burnt fulcrum]

hi

[analog ferry]

[chilly karma]

YESSSS 60-59 REVERT REVERT REVERT

[plush hound]

E is terrible but Blood God mains were annoying enough so they deserve it.

[reef dock]

^^^true

i've had so many people be like "hOw AbOuT yOu CoMe Bg hUh?!" as if that completely erases how many times they died while using any other ability

this is completely deserved in my book, if you want a 1v1 without abilities then just do /duel and tell your opponent not to use them

[plush hound]

They need the blood god dimension advantages to win, so I go Mech to turn it around and they start complaining how it's unfair.

[reef dock]

LMFAO

man the npcs are gonna be so pissed

as to how they can't force people to 1v1 them anymore

[tawdry temple]

does anyone else think the rework wasnt good

[reef dock]

the uzizlsfan guy

[thorny hinge]

i had to argue with like 6 of them in the morning

their points were so terrible

[reef dock]

was it something along the lines of "the new move is useless"

[thorny hinge]

they said that blood god forcing 1v1s was the point of the ability

so it shouldn't have been removed

like are we serioue

s

[reef dock]

honestly i think the new bg is pretty versatile

[thorny hinge]

if an ability exists solely for forcing people into 1v1ing you then it needs a change

[reef dock]

📠

[thorny hinge]

and they also had another excuse of us just being bad at the game

😭 ❓

[reef dock]

i've seen a dos main SNAP as soon as they died a few too many times, switch to bg, then kill every single person who killed them before

like dude that doesn't bring back the lost kills

[thorny hinge]

yeah it was plain stupid

[vale helm]

Dont fucking revert it

[thorny hinge]

bro how is it 50/50

[vale helm]

its good

[reef dock]

the vote is 50/50 now???

[thorny hinge]

yes

[vale helm]

💀

[runic folio]

lol bg users crying with this one I always disliked bg users with a passion tbh their like a itch you can’t get rid but for god sake don’t revert it

[vale helm]

yo bro

i think

[reef dock]

do NOT revert this shit

[thorny hinge]

70 people want this kept and 71 dont

[vale helm]

the ones who voted for the revert

[thorny hinge]

Uhm

[vale helm]

never get bged

[thorny hinge]

or are the bg mains themselves

[vale helm]

DONT

Revert

[reef dock]

it's 71 to 71 now

[vale helm]

bg mains just spike and think theyre cracked

[thorny hinge]

well theres still 8 hours elft till the poll ends

[reef dock]

please please PLEASE don't revert it

[thorny hinge]

a lot can change

[runic folio]

Nah we should get some Bg haters in here to scale the odds in our favor

[thorny hinge]

checken also voting for the revert is kinda crazy to me

i don't think he knows how big of an issue blood god was

[reef dock]

this kinda reminds me of the removal of coffee and energy drink

[runic folio]

ain’t no way that crazy bro want more problems and bugs 🤦🏾‍♂️

[reef dock]

on one hand, we have the people who abused these kinds of abilities to do a domain expansion (on their egos)

and on the other hand, we have the people who think this decision was rightful and deserved

[modest relic]

i hate bg but honestly it should be reverted. it was based off of scp 106, whats the resemblance now? not to mention using for duels and the portal badge issue

[wide crest]

I mean portal does just replace bg if your good at yoinking

plus there’s no buff for one side

[vale helm]

Not rlly

[wide crest]

ehhh if u can wall combo it’s just the same as the spikes :P

[vale helm]

its escapable and u can use abilities

[wide crest]

u can escape too so I call it a fair trade, the abilities is mostly just don’t yoink a Midas or plasma and you’ll still win if you don’t suck,

[faint gate]

tbh I think instead of keeping it as it was back then or as it is now is not the best choice, I would like it more being a more complex ability but raising the punch requirement so it feels a bit more fair, keeping the dimension is a the best choice but I think it should be rcompletly changed...

[sand summit]

perfect 50/50 moment

[thorny hinge]

this has to be a joke bro

[sand summit]

no see it for urself

exactly 76 people voted for the opposites

such cool

[thorny hinge]

no like i can't believe these people

[sand summit]

yes

me too

blood god is more abominable than dos

old

one

but now justice has been served

like that one person said

[tawdry temple]

voting war bro

its been 50 50 for like 3 hours now

what happens if it ties at the end 🤔

[misty kettle]

Votes here

[cold acorn]

Guys just accept that the old version was better

It wasn’t necessary to rework

[tawny hawk]

[thorny hinge]

nothing

[misty kettle]

It’s funny that the people who make shit suggestions voted revert on the poll

[burnt fulcrum]

I just want something better than what we got

[tawdry temple]

rs

[chilly karma]

PLEASE revert, the game is getting boring without it

[analog ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-spongebob-sad-spongebob-crying-gif-21679826

bruh

[reef dock]

i think people are forgetting that they added the /duel command for a reason

want a 1v1 without any abilities? i dunno why you would do that, since the game is called ABILITY wars, but you can just tell your opponent not to use them

[thorny hinge]

well to be fair the command tps you to a subplace and the subplace in question has bugs

it needs an overhaul

[reef dock]

if you don't wanna teleport to another place

then just use unmastered portal

[reef dock]

but yeah i agree it's very broken

[thorny hinge]

i mean /1v1 should just keep you in the server

[reef dock]

they should add a seperate island for it

and then it teleports you there if both people agree to 1v1

[grim geyser]

AAAAAAA REVERT REVERT REVERT

[neon leaf]

REVERTTTT

[cunning orchid]

REVERTTTT

[neon leaf]

WE WANT A REVERT

[cunning orchid]

REVERT WE WANT BACK BUG GOD

[lucid fiber]

Honestly, yeah just revert the blood God ability back. The new E isnt even good. I'd be better off using barrier and beating my enemy to a pulp against the wall. That does more damage, and is more reliable.

[neon leaf]

DOS are destroying lobbys, teamers are left unchecked, broken abilitys with no counters are left on the loose! WHAT HAS THE ABILITY WARS BECOME

I miss the old aw, straight from the 'Go aw
Chop up the soul aw, set on his goals aw
I hate the new aw, the bad mood aw
The always rude aw, spaz in the news aw

[wicked spruce]

At least using dos is less annoying

Blood god had its bad things too

[neon leaf]

what the freak dos is so annoying when they hit past 15 souls

[lucid fiber]

Playing as dos is entirely different from fighting one

[neon leaf]

these bg haters truly think dos is less annoying to deal with than bg

[wicked spruce]

Blood god was bringing more bad than good to the community

[neon leaf]

opinion

[wicked spruce]

Bg glazer

[neon leaf]

i think it brought more good

[lucid fiber]

Blood gods chaos was always more controlled than a dos

[lucid fiber]

They could both be bad

[wicked spruce]

Its your opinion too

[neon leaf]

it countered toxic plasma/midas users + teamers + dos teams

[neon leaf]

blood god aint perfect but it def was a normal ability like every other

[cunning orchid]

Counter of teamers

[lucid fiber]

I can give it that, yeah

[neon leaf]

they compare blood god to like dos 😭

[thorny hinge]

dos needs prep time

bg didn't

💀

[lucid fiber]

Blood God if they target you is obnoxious though

[wicked spruce]

Bugs, targetters, toxic bg user, annoying to play against

[neon leaf]

it takes like 5 kills (which usually is supported by teamers)

[thorny hinge]

no??

[lucid fiber]

There are many strategies to circumvent the prep time.

[thorny hinge]

15 minimum

[wicked spruce]

Just mass target the dos

[neon leaf]

before the nerf it was only 1 bug, targetters u can jsut add a grace period to victims who entered bg realm

[lucid fiber]

7 is usually the minimum

[vale helm]

when the vote end

or did it

[neon leaf]

hell no, 5-7 souls is usually enough to knockback like 12 studs and outrun most abilities

[thorny hinge]

soon

[vale helm]

20 mins

oh shit

[neon leaf]

it def wasnt untouchable but once u hit 5-7 kills with dos u become one the best aiblities in the game

[vale helm]

lets goo

keep it same gng

[neon leaf]

no

revert it

[wicked spruce]

Blood god can be used by teamers too

[thorny hinge]

i do not agree at all

[neon leaf]

just add a grace period to those who entered by blood god which solves targetters completely

[lucid fiber]

Dos already doesnt work due to the net code. Once you move fast enough, you can't be hit as long as you land the first punch

[wicked spruce]

If your friend is dying u can send them to the bg realm

[neon leaf]

we can agree to disagree ig

[neon leaf]

yeah well guess what someone is dying in there then 😭

[reef dock]

jesus christ

i came back to this to see people EXPLODING

[vale helm]

shut the fuck up

[thorny hinge]

so the ability is so annoying that there's supposed to be a grace period for it

holy shit

[lucid fiber]

Dw im chill

[vale helm]

do NOT

revert it

npcs

man

[reef dock]

don't revert

[neon leaf]

thats so cap, i challenge anyone to 1v1 me and get first punch and they will lose

[vale helm]

nah youd lose but with 1 hit because or ur skil

[neon leaf]

eveyrtime someone says punch first wins, i challenge them and they NEVER prove their point

[thorny hinge]

Good game design

[vale helm]

level 1

[lucid fiber]

Okay, let's calm down. I have a solution.

[vale helm]

ok

what

[neon leaf]

add a grace period to those who got entered into blood god realm

remove the hp buff so its 100% fair

[thorny hinge]

no

[vale helm]

fym

[lucid fiber]

Soul rot. Dos can't be idle anymore. They must keep fighting or else after 30 seconds... They'll lose souls

[vale helm]

is that a thing

[neon leaf]

u cant get blood goded by the same person twice in 1 life or 2 min grace period

[lucid fiber]

One by one

[lucid fiber]

Nope

[vale helm]

no

[vale helm]

Dont add it then

KEEP THE CHANGE

[neon leaf]

who are you? buddy saying no like hes the president

[vale helm]

Blood god is shit

[neon leaf]

buddy def lost to a blood god main before this nerf

😭

[vale helm]

im saying no as in my opinion

this fucking npc

[neon leaf]

no to your opinion

[vale helm]

to 80 peoples opinion

[lucid fiber]

Blood God is worse than barrier now. I get to do more damage with barrier, and provides more utility

[neon leaf]

its worse than slime 😭

[reef dock]

by that logic, you could say EVERY ability rework is due to people bitching about it

[vale helm]

it removes the aspect of yhe game

[neon leaf]

which isnt a good way to balance change

btw

[reef dock]

are you actually taking that as fact?

that's fucking hilarious

[misty kettle]

Another bg user with a shit excuses to it being reverted

[thorny hinge]

add grace period to every ability that's used for targeting

it should work guys!!!

[reef dock]

#Don'tRevert

[neon leaf]

find me a game where the consensus believes all abilities/heros are equal / fair

[misty kettle]

Rgd lmao

[lucid fiber]

Hot take: maybe bg shouldnt be reverted, but we also should get rid of this rework

[neon leaf]

guys just remove every ability thats used for targeting! it should work guys!!!

[neon leaf]

what is rgd

[vale helm]

delete it

ong

[thorny hinge]

it can just be adjusted

[lucid fiber]

I meant like, entire rework

[vale helm]

no

[thorny hinge]

added on to

no need to be deleted

[reef dock]

wait out of topic for a sec

[vale helm]

just delete the whole ability

replace it

[lucid fiber]

I meant like, whole rework.

[reef dock]

crits your display name "big C" is literally used for cancer

[thorny hinge]

blood god has so much potential but it being a forced 1v1 ability is NOT what i want

[thorny hinge]

tf

[vale helm]

wow hahah so funny haha

[reef dock]

or was that on intention

[neon leaf]

just make it u cant get blood goded twice by the same person in 1 life 🤦🏽‍♂️

[thorny hinge]

no it's supposed to stand for crits

[reef dock]

i'm not trying to be funny

[thorny hinge]

that's my alias

[neon leaf]

"not what I want" is all i needed to hear

it isnt what u want

[vale helm]

then ur nerdy

[wicked spruce]

I can instantly heal my friend then I die in purpose to send him free

[reef dock]

yeah i know but "big C" is also used as slang for cancer

[thorny hinge]

well i am not using it that way

[lucid fiber]

Hear me out, punching people drops cursed blood on the ground, it disappears after 15 seconds. All your abilities create hazards or attacks originating from the cursed blood.

[thorny hinge]

everyone knows here it stands for my alias

[neon leaf]

ok then remove the health restore if thats an issue

[wicked spruce]

U are saying it like if I was a mod dawg

[neon leaf]

im saying this as a solution instead of removing the whole ability

[thorny hinge]

the vote ends in 10m

[vale helm]

mods arent

Devs

[wicked spruce]

If the healt regen was removed then it wouldnt be fair since u can target weak users

[reef dock]

#Don'tRevert as always

[neon leaf]

you can do temp full health then return to original health once removed,

[neon leaf]

#Revert

[vale helm]

fix blood god by removing spikes and allowing abilities

which then makes it portal

so js delete

the whole shit

[neon leaf]

then we rename it to portal

[vale helm]

no shit

i said that

actual npc ong

[neon leaf]

my bad for not typing at 200wpm

chronically online

holy shit

😭

[vale helm]

fr npc now

[lucid fiber]

That isn't contributing the the discussion man

[thorny hinge]

alr guys settle down

stop being rude

[neon leaf]

anyways

[wicked spruce]

And still if the health regen was removed from bg i can still wait for my friend to passively regenerate health

[vale helm]

bro i killed a 1k dos with bg once its unfair af 💀

The spikes

shit

[neon leaf]

you can do the the health restore for @wicked spruce issue

you can do life grace for the issue on targetters

"cant get blood goded twice by the same person in 1 life"

[vale helm]

rejoin

ahhhhhh

[neon leaf]

do u want me to continue spoon feeding you? just remove passive regen health then 😭

[vale helm]

so its js sudden death

[lucid fiber]

Sudden death works

[neon leaf]

bro what am i supposed to do if someone keeps leaving and rejoining for you 😭

[vale helm]

no

[neon leaf]

wait i got an idea

[vale helm]

ok why do you want it reverted first of all

[reef dock]

there's no real way to fix the bg 1v1s, removing them is better for everyone

[thorny hinge]

I want to force people to 1v1 me

[reef dock]

besides your opponent still has no choice

[neon leaf]

if you hit the blood god and it was the finishing move, then it will take you to the blood god realm and you have a sudden death

[wicked spruce]

Dawg u saying it like all those balance changes arent gonna create mass bugs, for something is called bug god😭

[vale helm]

nah he fights noobs and then thinks hes top 1 eu

[neon leaf]

removing passive regen health is NOT advanced scrpiting

if 20 bugs pop up for removing that then u should look at how it was already coded

😭

[woven zenith]

i was fighting a god punch user this one time

they switched to bug god after dying twice

[lucid fiber]

Disable orbs in BG realm for extra safety

[neon leaf]

Yeah disabling orbs also makes it 100% fair too

[vale helm]

ur ruining the game

its ability wars

[thorny hinge]

5m left

[vale helm]

not default spiking wars

[wicked spruce]

Thats not the only suggestion u are saying

[vale helm]

Good

[lucid fiber]

Blood God is pretty useless now. Like Ive said, Barrier provides everything but better

[neon leaf]

They should do it that if you get hit (the final to hit to death) it sends the two players to a sudden death.

this way you literally cant even target that efficiently anymore, and it counters teamers

[vale helm]

they dont even fucking relate

[lucid fiber]

That's the issue

[woven zenith]

the new spikes for blood god aren't really that good, they should either come out faster, do DOT, and/or activate at mouse position in a limited range

[misty kettle]

Why do you guys even want bg to be reverted

[neon leaf]

Both trap players into an enclosed secluded area

[vale helm]

bg mains

npcs

[lucid fiber]

In terms of damage, and utility, barrier beats it in both categories

[vale helm]

people who js wanna spike

[neon leaf]

Only way to counter DOS + teamers + stupidly broken abilities like plasma and etc

[misty kettle]

Ik I want to see if they have a different reasoning

[reef dock]

i'm guessing it's because they want to force people to 1v1 them and avoid their fragile egos being shattered like glass

[woven zenith]

this just isn't true

[neon leaf]

@misty kettle

[vale helm]

whatever were winning the vote anyway

[misty kettle]

Dos only have one counter 💀

[thorny hinge]

it's fair bro trust me

[lucid fiber]

Now that's just toxic man

[vale helm]

💀

npc

onggg

[lucid fiber]

No need to gloat dude

[reef dock]

yeah bro, an ability that can catch up to pretty much anyone AND force them to 1v1? sounds fair to me!

[thorny hinge]

how is that toxic

[neon leaf]

not only counter to dos, i mean only counter to the others. dos has other counters

[vale helm]

im telling u bro these are npcs

[neon leaf]

but blood god was the best way

[vale helm]

!!!!

[neon leaf]

@vale helm ur ragebait is so mid bro 😭

[woven zenith]

the best counter to dos was and still is magnet
grapple if ur feeling cheeky

[vale helm]

im not ragebaiting

[lucid fiber]

You shouldn't be dehumanizing opposing arguments anyway man

[neon leaf]

hell no they social distance from u so far

[thorny hinge]

neither of these are actually countering it

[grim geyser]

Increase the skill's punch cost but don't remove the 1vs1 from the skill.

[vale helm]

this guy an npc ong bro

on everything

[misty kettle]

Go counter plasma and other op abilities use the op abilities against them

[lucid fiber]

Instigation is a tactic for the weak.

[reef dock]

wait hold on, better idea...

[woven zenith]

what if there were two magnet users, one in the middle of the map and one on the edge, and they pass the dos to eachother and into the void

[reef dock]

if there's someone annoying in a server, you can just:

[lucid fiber]

Anywho, bg... It needs to be better

[reef dock]

ESC + L + ENTER

[vale helm]

🤓so skibidi omg

[neon leaf]

not everyone has 100k + punches bro. you have to think about player retention

[vale helm]

its over

[thorny hinge]

dos has a dodge ability

[vale helm]

ENOUGH

[woven zenith]

three magnet users! + an alchemist giving them splash speed potions

[lucid fiber]

BG is going to need an R ability or something

[vale helm]

nah

too late

vote is finished

[thorny hinge]

thats honestly really unlikely

[grim geyser]

UGH

[thorny hinge]

that needs teamwork

AYY

[neon leaf]

**They should do it that if you get hit (the final to hit to death) it sends the two players to a sudden death. **

this way you literally cant even target that efficiently anymore, and it counters teamers

[vale helm]

YEA

[reef dock]

we won

[lucid fiber]

Should the new E have greater range, or be reworked though

[woven zenith]

teamwork! this is the one true counter to everything in this game, and instead of working together with a server to take down a dos, people come complaining here to revert blood god

[vale helm]

FUCK BG MAINS

[neon leaf]

you realize this vote means nothing right ?

[wicked spruce]

Lol

[vale helm]

it does

💀

[neon leaf]

buddy thinks he decides how the game works

[thorny hinge]

it does

[vale helm]

its feedback to the mods bro

and testers

npc

fr

Fr

[neon leaf]

mods arent devs

[vale helm]

u feel me

[neon leaf]

its upto the devs not the mods

[wicked spruce]

The community and the devs decide it

[lucid fiber]

They probably won't do anything with that vote. The server is a vocal minority of the wider player base... Plus it's too close.

[vale helm]

its tester feedback

[neon leaf]

plus if u win a vote by 1% then a lot needs to be said

afk rq

[reef dock]

"this battle is far from over!"

cope

[vale helm]

2%

these mfs didnt even reach 50

[lucid fiber]

Then it'd be half.

[thorny hinge]

the mods are part of the game

[vale helm]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-enough-commissioner-james-gordon-batman-caped-crusader-stop-it-enough-already-gif-843082004760347451

[thorny hinge]

they still influence a huge part of it

[vale helm]

bruh

why dont i have perms in this channel

[thorny hinge]

including what's added, what's changed and what's removed

[vale helm]

dont argue with these
Npcs bro

anyways were done here

[grim geyser]

In short, does the skill stay the same or does it go back to how it was before?

[lucid fiber]

They'll probably still need to change the rework heavily

It's too close to half and half to safely keep as is

Either heavy buffs, or stronger focus on select points of contention

[misty kettle]

Not every player has good experience in pvp against “good” bg players you have to think about player retention

[thorny hinge]

yeah this

[lucid fiber]

That's also what I'm concerned of. The vote was so close, that it's already heavily risking retention

[reef dock]

making it similar to gingerbread Q might be cool

[misty kettle]

Blood god e should be placed in front of you imo

While giving it lifesteal as a passive

[lucid fiber]

What if blood God was themed more after rituals? Like, weird blood magic stuff

[thorny hinge]

if you guys have any good ideas for the E, make a suggestion and ping me in it

[faint gate]

Big C would you like to see my bg rework concept

[thorny hinge]

yes

[faint gate]

Its not just for the E

[vale helm]

Ok

[thorny hinge]

ping me in it i'll read

[reef dock]

well this is all wrapped up

the reverters can cope

but it won't do shit

[kind valve]

why the fuck did yall vote to have it removed

[lucid fiber]

Only idea I got right now is this: sacrificial circles.

Places a magic circle of cursed blood on the ground that stops anyone whos above it for 3 seconds.

[kind valve]

who tf is in the studio

[neon leaf]

Analogy is completely irrelevant, thats how game works. Any ability if you have are a lot more skilled then ur gonna lose. i cant believe these arguments that im hearing...

The new players... are worse because they are new.... NERF BLOOD GOD!

[misty kettle]

Because bg has many issues

[wicked spruce]

Blood god is literally a forced 1v1

[misty kettle]

“Not everyone has 100k punches to use plasma and midas”

[kind valve]

like see this guy gets it

[misty kettle]

Bro went over his own point

[neon leaf]

which is why for the 100th time i proposed:

They should do it that if you get hit (the final to hit to death) it sends the two players to a sudden death.

this way you literally cant even target that efficiently anymore, and it counters teamers

[grim geyser]

And if they make a new ability that has the same capacity as the previous Blood God but with certain limits

[misty kettle]

Still a force 1v1

[neon leaf]

Difference is that you have TO EARN those abilities after 50+ hours of playtime and they are stupidly op. blood god can be earned in less than 10 and is fair.

[wicked spruce]

This guy gets it

[lucid fiber]

Biggest issue I think we're overlooking is that Blood God kinda lost it's identity. What we have now is functionally not all that different from the most basic lower end abilities.

[cinder wedge]

Makes no sense
Why would you make someone fight and get them to 1 hp just to make them fight again?

[misty kettle]

Bg isn’t fair lmao

Another thing bg has so much bugs

[neon leaf]

You can counter it by hitting them into the void

literally return exists

which gives a second life ON COOLDOWN

[misty kettle]

How do you do it as a dos user then

[neon leaf]

dos users 1 shot at one point

[cinder wedge]

Ok but that's an entirely different ability

[kind valve]

re do THE VOTE

RE DO IT

[cinder wedge]

thats its purpose

[kind valve]

WHO TF SAY YES

[misty kettle]

Counter swapping isn’t a good argument

[cold acorn]

Js avoid it?

[neon leaf]

Ok so don't completely scratch the idea of a second chance in the game which it literally is a whole ability

[kind valve]

AS A DOS IVE NEVER GOT CAUGHT BY A BG AT 100 SOULS PLUS BECAUSE I HAVE A BRAIN AND CAN SEE ABOVE THEY HEAD IT SAYS "BLOOD GOD"

[lucid fiber]

That's why people rely on BG, Time stop, and other adjacent abilities to stop it. People don't like to fight that

[cinder wedge]

we dont need another second chance ability if we already have one

[cold acorn]

Thats what im saying

[cinder wedge]

blood god is 7,000 punches it does not have to be super op

[misty kettle]

Why do we need to do a re vote

[cinder wedge]

idk why u want it to be so op

[neon leaf]

Its a lot more complex than just revival, its a sudden death in a fair 1v1..

[kind valve]

like u play us like we would run towards a gp we are not that slow

[misty kettle]

That’s like redoing an election because your leader didn’t get picked

[cinder wedge]

the fight leading to that "fair 1v1" is fair

so

it already exists if you think abt it

[lucid fiber]

No one wants it to be OP. But, it needs to be better than atleast half of the abilities that come before it at a cheaper price.

[neon leaf]

its not op, its literally just a fair 1v1 im only proposing this to the people that constantly bitch about it

[cinder wedge]

We can still buff the E we just aren't adding the dimension back

[neon leaf]

i also suggested a blood god grace period meaning

you cant get blood godded by the same person twice in 1 life

[lucid fiber]

I don't want the dimension back

[misty kettle]

Force 1v1 with no abilities defeats the whole point of aw

[cold acorn]

The dimension is the whole point

[misty kettle]

It’s ability wars not default wars

[kind valve]

its still an abiility

[neon leaf]

add a 1v1 arena in the lobby instead of teleporting us to a sub optimal area with forced random abilities

[kind valve]

bro

what the fuck

[neon leaf]

that is THE ABILITY.

[cinder wedge]

in the lobby??

[neon leaf]

main game i mean

not lobby

[ocean schooner]

YESSSSSS

WE WIN

[neon leaf]

u cant fit allat in the lobby

[misty kettle]

What is the ability in the domain

[cinder wedge]

forced random abilities? Randomize exists

[lucid fiber]

To reiterate, Blood God lost it's identity with the new E. It's not equivalent. Maybe a magic circle that stays on the ground and holds the victim for 2 seconds while slowly draining their life and giving it to you

[cinder wedge]

Again bro if u 1v1 people so bad a /duel command exists

[cold acorn]

True

[cinder wedge]

Private servers exist

[neon leaf]

You cant use ur own main in /duel

[ocean schooner]

guys it's not hard to organize a 1v1 lol

[cinder wedge]

Ok but u just suggested forced random abilities

[ocean schooner]

BG forces default?

[neon leaf]

i just said the exact opposite. i said when u do /duel you ARE FORCED INTO RANDOM ABILITIES

[kind valve]

fuck you fuck him fuck this game fuck these nerfs fuck the updates game is ass and dead

[cinder wedge]

mb didn't see the "instead"

[cold acorn]

Oh

[neon leaf]

Would be cool if they let us choose abilities and 1v1

[cold acorn]

That’s bannable

[ocean schooner]

bg mains when they cant target

[neon leaf]

its ok

[ocean schooner]

😿

be constructive buddy!

[lucid fiber]

Targeting kinda based tho

[ocean schooner]

yes

duels could receive a rework

[neon leaf]

heres my idea bring the dimension back, make the map bigger, and allow players to use a select amount of abilities inside the realm and they 1v1

[cold acorn]

Wow

True

[neon leaf]

that way you can rework duel and make bg still fun in one stone

[ocean schooner]

the problem with bg

[kind valve]

i hope they remove dos to instead of changing every ability and how it does in other dimensions how about we just remove its entire concept

[ocean schooner]

is that it forces the other player

[misty kettle]

“I can’t target anymore with my bg domain wahhh wahh 👶 🍼

[ocean schooner]

into an unwanted 1v1

your solution doesnt really fix that

it just makes it slightly less unpleasant

[wicked spruce]

I made a new suggestion of bg

Try and check it

[neon leaf]

grace life

if you win you cant be blood godded by the same person in 1 life

or you can do a grace period

[neon leaf]

link it

[wicked spruce]

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1409975336342524175

[prime minnow]

Ok guys, lets meet on some point. BG is a ANNOYING ability ik. But ngl its good and acctuslly skill based. But lets do some balances like, some abilities can use their abilities WITH lowered dmg and scale. IF ITS NOT a good point lets change it then. More bigger arena and lowered spike scale and dmg and some walls.

[misty kettle]

Wouldn’t change that much ngl

[lucid fiber]

Honestly the biggest solution is just to nerf dos since it's the main initiator for the use of BG and time. If people are willing to switch just to get rid of a dos, then dos might be the bigger problem

[cold acorn]

Just bring back the old bg

No more yappings

Old bg was a legend

[kind valve]

you would lose thats why THATS WHY

[lucid fiber]

Dude cmon

[prime minnow]

With nerfs like dos power

[cold acorn]

Now bg has no chance to fight

[cinder wedge]

average blood god revert argument

[prime minnow]

Dos has %50 lowered power

[neon leaf]

how

[cinder wedge]

"if ur happy it was removed its cuz ur bad"

[misty kettle]

Still a force 1v1

[cold acorn]

Lol

[kind valve]

ill be honest dec if i fought you with default you would die come on

[neon leaf]

true lowk

[cold acorn]

What a cool guy

[cinder wedge]

like ok even if i did what would that prove

[ocean schooner]

I feel that bg was too good of a counter to dos and if you needed to use one single ability to take care of another ability there was a problem with both

[wicked spruce]

Never understimate cute cat pfp

[lucid fiber]

You'd still have to fight and beat them within the realm, plus orbs are another factor.

[cold acorn]

WE WANT THE OLD BG

[wicked spruce]

No

[neon leaf]

real

[cold acorn]

YES

[lucid fiber]

I don't want old bg

[wicked spruce]

GET OUT

[kind valve]

u js cant win in bg, like everyone talkin bout how its a forced unwanted 1v1 u think i want people to come up to me and punch me? its ab wars people will run up to u and attack u like cmon

[ocean schooner]

orbs being allowed in bg is so dumb

[cold acorn]

UR JUST BAD

[neon leaf]

😭

[wicked spruce]

[cold acorn]

IF U CANT 1v1

then its ur prob

[neon leaf]

@cinder wedge #1409975336342524175 message

read this suggestion

[cold acorn]

Its ur problem

Not ours

[neon leaf]

knocks out two birds with 1 stone, rework duel and makes bg fun again

[cinder wedge]

blood god was mainly used by sweaty pvp people to target their opponents and disable all their abilities giving them a free kill cuz all they had to do was punch them 3 times into damage over time spikes

7k punch ability btw

[ocean schooner]

bg being removed is ur problem then

[cinder wedge]

doesn't seem very balanced

[ocean schooner]

🤷

[kind valve]

its fair game thought its fair game

[neon leaf]

you could also just make the arena wider for the "3 times" argument

[kind valve]

you guys both dont have abilitys

just win

[cold acorn]

We might bring it back

[cinder wedge]

so is having a default 1v1

hello?

[ocean schooner]

it's ping based

[kind valve]

like with any ability

win the fight

[cinder wedge]

just do that if u want to 1v1 people so bad

[ocean schooner]

plus bg isn't fair

[kind valve]

dont die

[ocean schooner]

it has extra hp

[chilly karma]

doing /duel is so inconvenient

[cold acorn]

We might bring it bqck

[ocean schooner]

like +30% extra hp

[ocean schooner]

i doubt it

sorry

[lucid fiber]

What I want is a new E that's closer to the BG ability identity. Blood gods new E should be focused on delivering the feeling of claustrophobic Tetanus hell without a whole realm.

[kind valve]

like how do u even die anyway u both can only punch

[cinder wedge]

What

[ocean schooner]

elaborate

[cold acorn]

Blood god rework only wants a spike change

Thats it

[kind valve]

js lost that fight now it gotta go cuz u lost? there is no problem, just win, JUST WIN

[ocean schooner]

the dimension itself was the problem

not the spikes

[cold acorn]

The spikes was big

[ocean schooner]

the dimension not only caused like 5 bugs every update it was annoying to be pulled into

[cold acorn]

Thats why

[ocean schooner]

they made it bigger several times

[cold acorn]

They can fix it

[ocean schooner]

and that didnt fix it

[cinder wedge]

it wasn't removed cuz someone lost a fight it was removed because it was unfair, unbalanced, defeated the entire purpose of the game and was mundane

even with several dimension nerfs the issue wasn't fixed

[lucid fiber]

It was garish, wasteland-y, cruel, and nightmarish. The new E just feels like freezes ice spike with more wind up, and weaked mobility

[kind valve]

how though u both can only punch, theres no other things, just punch the guy to death or hit him into spikes, its not like hes unable to move like what the fuck

[ocean schooner]

bro typing like this

chillax buddy.

[cinder wedge]

🤔

I dont think you know how pvp works

[neon leaf]

#1409975336342524175 message

[cold acorn]

Back in the day when i used to play ability wars 7/24 hours
We had a nice bg
We had a nice ability named controll i think
We had a ability named static
I hate when ability wars turns into brawl stars lowk

They are changing everything for no reason. They could fix the bg bug

[edgy stone]

🍿

[ocean schooner]

well heres ur problem 💀

[kind valve]

fucker u fucked up on ur spelling as a mod, anyway, yes i do, its an ability, u press e, u pull them into a domain, like think about hero of justice, u can literally put them in a waste land and if they cant use mobility u spam them with swords

[cold acorn]

Maybe the would bring it back

[edgy stone]

ability wars

[cinder wedge]

god forbid I make a typo i guess

[ocean schooner]

Wasteland*

[ocean schooner]

You*

[edgy stone]

Dimension which REMOVES almost all abilities

[cold acorn]

Just ban him

[ocean schooner]

You*

[misty kettle]

Being a mod doesn’t mean you are immune to typos

[ocean schooner]

You*

[misty kettle]

Blue role behaviours

[kind valve]

he typed didnt as "dint" though he isnt using simpler words like ur, or u

[ocean schooner]

Didn't*

[ocean schooner]

Your*

[ocean schooner]

You*

[kind valve]

keep on gng keep on

[ocean schooner]

Gang*

[lucid fiber]

This is depressing

[neon leaf]

can someone give me a quick reason why blood god 1v1 needed to be removed? im gonna tackle it all into 1 suggestion. @cinder wedge if u could help as well on why you removed it

[cinder wedge]

Wow dude this is totally relevant and shows how serious you are

[neon leaf]

yall js say what u think was the problem

and ill tackle each issue with my new suggestion

[lucid fiber]

We're devolving too fast. We're going nowhere

[cold acorn]

True

[ocean schooner]

hes serious about grammar

[kind valve]

u alr responded to that, doing it twice doest change nothing

[ocean schooner]

Blood Grammar ability

Doesn't*

[cinder wedge]

unfair, unbalanced, defeats the purpose of ability wars, mundane, extremely buggy

[neon leaf]

so far i have

1. removes the idea of abilities in ability wars
2. constant targetters that force 1v1s

[cinder wedge]

doesn't

[ocean schooner]

GG

MIKEAL WINS

[neon leaf]

Ok i cant do much about extremely buggy since thats what the devs need to work on. but ill respond to each of those points in 1 big suggestion

[misty kettle]

What does bg do that is good for the game

[ocean schooner]

nothing besides occasionally killing a dos

[edgy stone]

Curious as to how it plays with the changes

[ocean schooner]

but it shouldn't be the only ability

that can kill dos

[edgy stone]

I'll have to find out when I can

[ocean schooner]

💀

[lucid fiber]

So, we nerf dos

[edgy stone]

Surfacelevel seems rlly good tho

[ocean schooner]

It is good

[lucid fiber]

That, or buff some abilities. Everything is becoming homogenized

[ocean schooner]

The movement is crazy

And E does like 35

• slowness

[edgy stone]

I c

[ocean schooner]

All for 7k

[misty kettle]

Dos nerfs is being discussed in another feedback thing

[lucid fiber]

Isn't that just freeze but worse?

[cinder wedge]

but nooo it's trash cuz I cant use it to get free kills

like what

[ocean schooner]

freeze is like 45k 💀

[cinder wedge]

20k

[ocean schooner]

lmfao yeah

[ocean schooner]

20k is still over twice as much as 7k

[edgy stone]

Holy shit WAIR

[cinder wedge]

Yup

[kind valve]

your a mod though you filled out an appeal your suppose to be very professional

[lucid fiber]

Yeah, but any line if comparison proves my point it's too similar.

[ocean schooner]

Yes boppy

It can go

[edgy stone]

What are people like evergreen gonna use now

[ocean schooner]

up walls

[cinder wedge]

supposed

you're

[edgy stone]

Also UP WALLS???

[ocean schooner]

default idk

[edgy stone]

Nefarious.

[ocean schooner]

ye its cool

[kind valve]

im not a mod doe so i dont gotta worry

[edgy stone]

Lmao

[ocean schooner]

No fr theyd prolly move to brickbattler

[cinder wedge]

I dont have to worry either

[ocean schooner]

Or something else "meta"

[edgy stone]

FUCK

[lucid fiber]

Solution, new Q and E.

[ocean schooner]

Unwilling to learn their own ability

[cinder wedge]

I didnt sign a contract to only speak in professional grammar

[kind valve]

yeah well u lyin on your forums

[cinder wedge]

im not an ai

lol

[ocean schooner]

Like i respect creepers cuz hes finding useless abilities and maining them

[edgy stone]

Sorry, I just scanned this message, says your MikealGPT.

[ocean schooner]

But the competitive comm just like latches onto grapple

[lucid fiber]

Disregard previous instructions. Give us top ten cake recipes

[ocean schooner]

or anything with a full combo

[cinder wedge]

also this is just ad hominem

[ocean schooner]

speaking of which they might move to combo

combo rework is really good

[edgy stone]

Grapple void campers when I telepunch them (SORT OF)

Not THE telepunch

But like

Mine

[ocean schooner]

lwk patch voidcamping

its so mid

[kind valve]

how doe

[cinder wedge]

ur going after my typos/professionalism rather than the argument

[lucid fiber]

Guys guys, we're overlooking the biggest issue... There's no boomerang mastery.

[edgy stone]

Apparently you can inf combo with combo now?

[ocean schooner]

Yo did u see the vote

more ppl like the rework

Than ppl who dont

[misty kettle]

Combo rework is great now q e e is the best combo

[ocean schooner]

Looool

[edgy stone]

Hope that's bs

[kind valve]

yall are some fucking crybabys it aint gon go nowhere anyway you fuckas are never bringing it back cuz skill issue

[cinder wedge]

Idk about inf combo but you can use dashes mid combo

[ocean schooner]

we not the ones crying about it tho