Determination Ability

[iron lagoon]

Obtainment: 40k punches and "The Real Slaughter" to get this badge you need to sacrifice 200+ souls for determination orb after getting determination orb you need to mix determination orb with divine orb.

Passive: Holds a knife and deals 8 damage, has 80 hp, as you get level you become little stronger and little faster. Has a special killing and death animation(undertale heart animation)

This ability is based on Chara and Frisk from Undertale.

You gain a new level per 5 kills max is 20 levels.

First 10 levels increases your hp and damage 4, your speed increases 1.5 per first 10 levels.

Abilities:

Determination E: sends 3 knife slash(something like 3 little malice e) unlocks at level 2 deals 8 damage per slash gets stronger as you get level. Level 5 dmg:12
Level 10 dmg:20 Level 20 dmg:30

Determination Q: Someting like combo E but no kb all it do is dealing damage and bleeding effect(Makes enemy slower and gets damage slowly this damage increases as you get level. Lvl 6 damage 15x3Lvl Level 12 dmg: 18x3 lvl 20 dmg: 24x3 )Unlocks at level 6

Determination R: When you activate this and kill a player player will turn into your fighter npc with a dark avatar. Duration 6 seconds. Unlocks at level 20.

T : I know t ability might look weird but ability wars officially used t in spectator. T is just mode switch. Has a 30 seconds cooldown(you cant switch mode rapidly.)

Divine Mode E: Basically parry if someone tries to attack you they will fly into air and take seriuos kb. Unlocks at level 4

Divine Mode Q: Makes everyone in a specific range cant punch and cant use ability for 9 seconds. Unlocks at level 10

Divine Mode R: Steals hp from people in a speficif range 2hp/second from each player, more player=faster steal. Duration:12 seconds. Unlocks at level 12.

I am not completely sure about osts and some cooldowns/durations. Community's help would be very good.

[tacit terrace]

Oh great another ability with a T ability

Spectator and engineer have done irreversible damage by getting a T ability

[tacit terrace]

Is this another ability that gets stronger every time you kill

But with effectively 6 abilities

[iron lagoon]

This is exactly what it is. Why are you that seriuos and angry btw.

[fast carbon]

overly op, complicated ability with 7 abilities and an insanely hard obtainment

i like the idea of more undertale abilities in the game but this is just ass

[royal sable]

rework it slightly and we got a deal

one issue, we have 1 undertale ability

i really like the concept

but heres some things id change:
First of all, id make this one have 2 modes, like you said, but this time, im reworking the ability switch
2nd, the 2 modes will NOW be either Life or Death (Referencing Angel of Life, and Angel of Death alternatives in the profecy)
Life mode heals himself when using an abiliyu, and Death mode does more damage on abilities
To switch, you kill someone not using the void, all non void kills put you in Death form until you do a void kill (referencing that the Genocide route is more difficult due to certain bosses)

also, optional, if you get killed by an engineer while using this ability, the line "Driving in my car" will play

also, i am an avid player, it says member, but i have engineer, ability warriar, and 11th quest

i just connected an alt instead of main

[ember berry]

its ok

like the idea

[tacit terrace]

I don't really like this suggestion overall

[ember berry]

well im fine with any ability

[iron lagoon]

Tbh i am seeing you in nearly every suggestion and you always say just this what is your problem with this ability ? You can try to fix or just say something like we dont need one more ability that makes you stronger as you get kills.

[iron lagoon]

hard abtoinment ? Just get 200 souls and divine orb this shouldnt be that hard

[iron lagoon]

if you think this is insanely hard operator badge should be imposible

[iron lagoon]

i dont think void kill is a good choice for this ability bc kb doesnt increseas but damage increseas most of the time people would use normal kills

[kindred heath]

you

dimwit

this ability requires heavy rng

2.5% for a divine orb

and assuming u can even get to 200 souls without friend farmers

also wrathful critic has some good points

as well as bro wht

what

also the amount of cosplayers that would appear after this would kill me

also we pretty much have enough killstreaks

3 is enough for the present

[balmy ore]

The obtainment requires Divine Orb (2.5% to get btw) and 200 DOS (either hard to get, very time-wasting or both), another ability about Killstreaks and it has more abilities than Hero of Justice.

I don't really like how this ability is designed overall.

[slate summit]

how is nobody talking about the 88 damage, 160 health, and 50 walkspeed at max level

that is atrocious

[balmy ore]

lemme check ts out

[slate summit]

i did the math

[balmy ore]

holy shit

[slate summit]

[balmy ore]

that is atrocious

[slate summit]

an almost oneshot with 2.5x the base walkspeed and 1.6x the base health

[iron lagoon]

and 80 hp 8 dmg 20 speed at level0 it is even worse than default

[kindred heath]

ok?

its still op

all it takes is friend farmers

[balmy ore]

that doesn't help, bro 😭

[kindred heath]

@tacit terrace

[slate summit]

you said yourself that each level gives a stat boost

[iron lagoon]

it is just op when you friend farm

[slate summit]

for 100 kills

[iron lagoon]

yes

i even give numbers

[slate summit]

and just so you know there's an ability that requires max level

[slate summit]

and i did the math

please remove the damage boost and lower the speed boost

[iron lagoon]

i already know the stats i think balanced

[balmy ore]

even without friend farming, you can literally farm for noobs

[iron lagoon]

yeah but first levels are very weak

[slate summit]

i mean to be fair

its 100 kills

its basically a weaker 100 dos that's harder to get due to the lack of 15 souls phase

[iron lagoon]

i wrote this ability for getting kills for more abilities to make things more enjoyable bc dos and hive is just running oneshot and boring

[slate summit]

borng

[iron lagoon]

how bad i did a mistake

[slate summit]

im gonna make a borng ability suggestion now

bye

[iron lagoon]

yeah do it

i will read it and i will say nerf it

[balmy ore]

btw, do you mind if i make a concept of another ability based on frisk?

[iron lagoon]

yeah but my main focus is something gets stronger per kill but main focus is getting abilities not speed and kb

bc i like dos gets stronger but it is literally too fast and oneshot which has nothing enjoyable or unique until you get to 300

but 300 is crazy op too

[iron lagoon]

will you actually write? i want to see it

[balmy ore]

yep. i might focus the ability on the routes players can take in Undertale

[slate summit]

i changed my mind

[iron lagoon]

about what?

about writing boring suggestions or ability

[slate summit]

i change my mind about adding a suggestion with only a passive that just lets you bounce off of stuff

i made a way better ability though

[iron lagoon]

ok write it

i will say nerf it

np i will give the numbers too to help you nerfing it

[tacit terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785961444004462613/1319709034386821151/image.gif

[iron lagoon]

?

[tacit terrace]

Also specify how much stronger each ability gets

[iron lagoon]

i dont think your problem is this

i can specify it but you just dont want something gets stronger per kill i think

[tacit terrace]

Specify

[iron lagoon]

i specified

it was just for determination e

[tacit terrace]

Q says damage increases as you level up

[iron lagoon]

no it doesnt

but ngl it needs to be added

[tacit terrace]

Look

[iron lagoon]

i changed it

after sending i understood it is still not finished

[tacit terrace]

There might be a small problem in your edit

[iron lagoon]

probably i will rebalance it and upload again

[tacit terrace]

Also specify the cooldowns

[iron lagoon]

problem with mostly cooldowns and durations

idk how i can write them

it migh be too broken or too trash

[tacit terrace]

How much damage do you do at max level

[iron lagoon]

m1:48

[tacit terrace]

So damage stops scaling from level 10

[iron lagoon]

yes

[tacit terrace]

And is determination R just a robot summon?

[iron lagoon]

more like puppet

you turn people into your fighter

[tacit terrace]

What are the stats for the summon

[iron lagoon]

same as a puppet

[tacit terrace]

so a minion with like 30 hp that is pretty fast and targets only 1 person

Seems kinda eh

[iron lagoon]

yes it feels same to me

i am thinking to change it and upload one more

all i want was an ability which gets bettee abilities as you get kills

but this turned into something like hivemind

[tacit terrace]

Also why the hell is the speed so high

You get around 50 speed at level 20

[slate summit]

make it have like 80 health

having to get so many kills for just a puppet isnt good

[iron lagoon]

i want speed something like 10-15 souls dos at max

but even in wiki there is no info about speed

[tacit terrace]

Dos gains around 1 or 1.5 speed per kill

[slate summit]

if i were to guess dos 15 souls has about 32 walkspeed

[tacit terrace]

Up until 15, where it's speed is set to a specific value

[tacit terrace]

Way more

[slate summit]

your ability at max has 50

[iron lagoon]

50 is crazy op then

[slate summit]

if hes right though dos probably has like 48 at 15 souls

[tacit terrace]

.

[iron lagoon]

do you know what it is

[tacit terrace]

No

I am not bothered to measure the speed of a dos

[iron lagoon]

anyways i will just rebalance it looks op in some cases but looks bad in some cases

[tacit terrace]

Also the obtainment kinda sucks

I can't even use my divine orb

[neon sorrel]

no

[tacit terrace]

Dos isn't THAT difficult, but the problem is that I have to gamble for divine every time I want to try getting it

[tacit terrace]

And I can't even use it, I have to save it for the stupid orb from the shrine

[iron lagoon]

bro go touch grass you are playing roblox for 25 hours

[neon sorrel]

im busy farming in da amazing bunker simulator

[iron lagoon]

what would be good do you have any idea

[tacit terrace]

make it not involve pap gambling

[slate summit]

get 5 billion puppets with puppet

[fast carbon]

yknow that the obtainment is harder than getting operator?

while getting 300 souls you can use divine orb