Time Mastery

[last flume]

Map wide timestop, no

Instant teleportation

No

Didn’t even change q

11 second timestop is also kinda insane

[twilit cairn]

we got rid of map wide timestop for a reason

[spare ferry]

in a small range dawg

like holy time is so buns

i haven’t seen someone use it in years

[twilit cairn]

they can just revert the nerf that they added I think was added in a recent update? and it would all be fine

[waxen kelp]

Hardfail?

[spare ferry]

have u ever watched jjba

[twilit cairn]

or maybe a slight buff on top and THATS IT

[spare ferry]

what nerf

[last flume]

It’s about balance

You use e

Teleport

[twilit cairn]

balance > lore accuracy

[last flume]

Easy kill

[waxen kelp]

Teleportation to ANYWHERE with a 15 second cooldown

Unbalanced

[long creek]

Old time + TP

[waxen kelp]

Global timestop was removed for a reason

[long creek]

Mhh

[spare ferry]

don’t matter in the anime they stopped time but for us it looked like they teleported

[waxen kelp]

You make people unable to play the game for up to 11 seconds

[spare ferry]

then 9 seconds

[waxen kelp]

are you saying that balancing doesn't matter?

[last flume]

Also did you just try to claim the entire map is “a small range”

[long creek]

And 2 seconds timestop

[waxen kelp]

That is still a lot

[long creek]

Nahh what is this

[spare ferry]

the whole point is mastery

u work for it

[waxen kelp]

And it should be BALANCED

[spare ferry]

it is

[waxen kelp]

You aren't a slap battles player by any chance, are you?

[spare ferry]

it makes up for the long ass cooldown

[long creek]

And how u get the mastery

[spare ferry]

nope

haven’t touched it once

it’s trash

[twilit cairn]

with how strong time is the time mastery should be a rework of it not a upgrade

[spare ferry]

kill 500 ppl in time stop

[waxen kelp]

The ability, along with the teleportation pretty much guarantees any kill

[long creek]

Bruh

[spare ferry]

which is already hard

because ppl reset

[long creek]

That's also bad

Nah

[waxen kelp]

Dude just global timestop, teleport to your target and they are DOOMED

[spare ferry]

no

just disable teleport in time stop

[waxen kelp]

Resetting still counts as a kill

[long creek]

Bro

[waxen kelp]

As long as you hit them at least once

[twilit cairn]

teleport then timestop after the teleport

[long creek]

500 kills to do a 2.6 seconds timestop

That's wild

Too much weak

[spare ferry]

people are saying it’s op

[waxen kelp]

Still you can teleport nearby and timestop

[long creek]

OP?!

NUH UH

[waxen kelp]

And there's nothing you can do

[spare ferry]

then just limit

how far they can teleport

[long creek]

Bro now tell me how this is unbalanced

This is just weak

And bas

Bad

[twilit cairn]

ur suggestion still has a map wide timestop

[last flume]

Where are you getting a 2.6 second timestop, it’s 11 seconds

[long creek]

I mean 500 kills in timestop

[long creek]

So

It is for 2 seconds

[waxen kelp]

It starts at like 2 seconds and every time you timestop it gains 0.2 duration

[long creek]

I mean u want to make me doing 500 kills with timestop

[waxen kelp]

This sucks either way

[spare ferry]

yea that’s buns

[waxen kelp]

Just don't make it GLOBAL

[long creek]

For a 2 seconds timestop

[spare ferry]

like u wouldn’t die 5 seconds later

[waxen kelp]

It does not need to be global

[spare ferry]

from a god punch

or something

[waxen kelp]

It was remoced for a reason

Removed

[long creek]

Buff it

Huge buff

[last flume]

Also wouldnt it take 5 time stops to get another second?

[long creek]

And less max time stop time

[spare ferry]

that’s around 10 minutes

u’d have to be alive for 10 minutes

[long creek]

And the R is just

[spare ferry]

to get a second bro

[long creek]

I mean, time stop with tp

[last flume]

Where are you even getting that.. it would take 5 to do 5 time stops

[spare ferry]

Server cd

[long creek]

Crazy

[spare ferry]

it’s different that the player cd

[last flume]

No it ain’t..

[long creek]

Bro that's just weak anf

[twilit cairn]

use regen or divine orb run away with teleport or use the short timestop if someone is close and then eventually 11 second timestop

[spare ferry]

Ts have a server cd so people don’t spam it

[long creek]

Make it 100 kills

[last flume]

Oh

I see

[spare ferry]

wow imagine rolling all ur punches for that

that’s trash

[last flume]

But still, across the map timestop?

[twilit cairn]

divine orb only takes about 2k punches

[spare ferry]

damn bro no one got that kind of punches

[long creek]

Yes

And it's mid

[twilit cairn]

I have 400k punches so maybe it doesnt matter to much to me tho

[last flume]

Almost everyone does

[long creek]

Bro

[spare ferry]

dang and u don’t even have brick battler

that’s crazy

[twilit cairn]

brickbattler is hard bro dont blame me

[spare ferry]

hell no

[long creek]

U should spend 2k pinches every time u die

Guys

Mean

Mena

Bro

[spare ferry]

Yes

[long creek]

U said

500 kills

For this shit

[spare ferry]

people wanted a beef

nerf

so bad

[long creek]

2 seconds timestop

Bruh

Nahh

[spare ferry]

they obviously stupid asf

[long creek]

This thing is ATROCIOUS

2 seconds timestop

U do 2 hits

Dang it

[waxen kelp]

This guy didn't even nerf the timestop range

It does NOT need to be GLOBAL

[spare ferry]

it’s buffed

[last flume]

That actually isn’t even too bad 20 damage and you can just teleport away before they even think of fighting you

[spare ferry]

Who is nerfing it

when it has 2 seconds

[long creek]

Nahhhh bro

[spare ferry]

of ts

[long creek]

There are 2 things

[twilit cairn]

someone out there is eventually gonna grind for 11 second timestop

[long creek]

Y'all don't know how few are 2 seconds

Or idk

[spare ferry]

yeah what im saying is that the more time stop the higher cooldown

[long creek]

I mean

2 hits

[spare ferry]

but even then ppl wouldn’t wanna use it then

[long creek]

Bro

Listen to me

[twilit cairn]

longer cooldown doesnt balance out a free kill

[long creek]

Make it 5 seconds

[spare ferry]

gang a free kill is 5 punches

[long creek]

Rework the R

[spare ferry]

i get 200 every 5 minutes

[long creek]

And make it a max of a 9 seconds timestop

And everytime u use it

[twilit cairn]

balance not punch purposes

[long creek]

The seconds grows by 1

I mean

The timestop duration

Grows by 1 second

[last flume]

Also imagine trying to use dos with this

A times user camos

Vamos

[long creek]

Blud

[last flume]

..

Camps

[spare ferry]

the whole point is to counter a dos

[long creek]

Are u serious

[last flume]

Unavoidably!?!

Use e, literally teleport and hit

[twilit cairn]

making it impossible to get 300 kills

[long creek]

What u want to do to a 15 souls dos when u have a 2 seconda timestop

Crazy

[spare ferry]

when was the last time u saw a dos hit 300 in a public server

it’s impossible bro

[long creek]

Bruh

[spare ferry]

what’s stopping a dos from running to a time user

and killing him

[long creek]

And also

[spare ferry]

while he has 2 seconds of time stop

[long creek]

There's a windup

[spare ferry]

exaclty

[last flume]

They’re frozen

[twilit cairn]

few months ago

[long creek]

Bro

[spare ferry]

damn

[twilit cairn]

but it was not that long ago

[spare ferry]

that’s a long time

[long creek]

Listen to me

What u do to a 15 souls dos

[waxen kelp]

Do I hardfail react

[long creek]

In 2 seconds

[last flume]

Eh your choice

[long creek]

2 hits, then he kills u

[last flume]

3 hits

[long creek]

Wow

[waxen kelp]

Eh I won't do that yet

[long creek]

3 hits

[last flume]

Which in time, is like 1/4 map knockback

[long creek]

Yes u will kill him 200%

[long creek]

NAHHHH

[last flume]

Which most dos aren’t standing dead center of the map

[last flume]

Yeah, time multiplies knockback a lot

[spare ferry]

and they fast as flip

[long creek]

It at max is a 50 studs knockback

[spare ferry]

they can just run away

[last flume]

That’s still kinda a lot

[long creek]

Nahh

Bro are u fr

Anyways

[last flume]

Have you actually seen 50 studs?

[slate oracle]

Bruh I can't post images

Anyway

This is terrible

Delete this post

[long creek]

It is a 1/6 of the map

Anyways

A 3 seconds windup

In 2 seconds u prob don't even reach him

Lol

[last flume]

Did you forgot about teleportation ?

[long creek]

He can kill u

[spare ferry]

teleportation with a knock back of 5 studs

wow

amazing

that’s so good

the teleportation it self is nerfed

[last flume]

I meant r,

R teleportation

Lmao

[spare ferry]

year

i know

when u teleport

u hit them

[long creek]

Anyways

[spare ferry]

5 stud knockback

durrrrrr

[long creek]

U take like 1 second

[quick zinc]

nuh uh

[long creek]

So u do 1 hit

Guys

Mena

[last flume]

Cool, so you use e, teleport (+ 5 knockback) hit 3 times

[long creek]

Rework this suggestion

[last flume]

Or delete it

[spare ferry]

Tell me what I should do

[long creek]

It is useless, 500 kills for a so WEAK ability

[spare ferry]

Pissed off cuz a time def spam killed u

[last flume]

?

[long creek]

I can dm u

[spare ferry]

Aight bet

[last flume]

Time is just annoying

[spare ferry]

It’s weak

[last flume]

Sure it is

[spare ferry]

if u think it’s annoying at such a weak ability ur weird

or u have the attention span of a 4 year old

like damn

[last flume]

You mean being able to hit someone into the void form anywhere with no resistance is weak?

[waxen kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914578216818200626/1371117337067126957/copy_3BA25C07-237F-4F54-8F0C-AC57B8F63E8D.gif

[spare ferry]

if u teleport y have to be within 50 studs of where u want to go

[last flume]

It legit doesn’t even say that in the suggestion btw

[spare ferry]

ya im changing

[waxen kelp]

So you just approach someone with your global timestop, you timestop, then teleport and punch them

[spare ferry]

gang

i told u this

10 times

teleportation is disabled

in time stop

gang did NOT watch jojos

[waxen kelp]

And you can teleport before pressing E

[waxen kelp]

So?

[spare ferry]

3 second wind up

that’s crazy

[last flume]

Oh yeah during the e windup

[spare ferry]

the whole ability is based on jojo

[waxen kelp]

Perhaps I should judge people for not knowing why the Conciliator from Starscape is so strong

Or why the Echelon is a better PVE ship than bulwark

Or why the 3 big factions hate each other

Oh wait I already do that

Either way idc about jojo, I only care about balancing

[last flume]

As if everything an Abilty is based off of is lore accurate, defender archer is nowhere close to its inspiration game, from the weakest of the classes to the strongest

[waxen kelp]

Making the timestop global is a horrible idea

[waxen kelp]

I mean the original IS called piercer after all

But even then

[spare ferry]

ya but the whole point of the teleportation is to timestop but we don’t see it

[waxen kelp]

Baller should be the fastest yet has the same speed as crusher (the slowest)

[spare ferry]

he just time stops to move

wouldn’t make sense to timestop to move in a timestop

[last flume]

So he doesn’t teleport

🤯

[spare ferry]

he does cuz that’s what it seems like but in reality he’s stopping time to move locations🤯

0 ball knowledge bro

[last flume]

Oh yeah cause we all watch the same shows

Sure

[waxen kelp]

I should judge him for not knowing what happened in G-09

[spare ferry]

not my fault the anime’s been out for 30 years

u still haven’t watched it

[waxen kelp]

What happened in G-09

[last flume]

Because I don’t want to watch it?

[spare ferry]

Then why r u judging the ability

It’s clearly based of jiba

Jjba

[last flume]

Because it’s in the game I enjoy!!?!

[waxen kelp]

Balancing can still be judged

Even if you don't watch jojo, you can still judge the ability based on whether it's balanced or not

[last flume]

It’s like asking why haven’t you played terraria just because malice, festive, and stardust exists

[spare ferry]

Still u should know that time stop users don’t actually “teleport”

[spare ferry]

I have lol

[last flume]

Didn’t say you didn’t

[spare ferry]

If ur gonna change the ability and ruin what it’s based off entirely u might as well play terraria

Like gng what

[waxen kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-cat-gif-1621896541516232538

[spare ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nxs-cube-cornball-ball-corn-gif-2361257093465839159

[last flume]

Isn’t this your logic rn?

[waxen kelp]

No gif perms

[last flume]

“If you’re gonna judge a suggestion because it’s op, might as well watch the show”

[spare ferry]

OP??

[waxen kelp]

It does not have to be 100% accurate

[spare ferry]

GANG HALF THE PEOPLE DMING ME SAY IT NEEDS TO BE BUFFED

[last flume]

Wait op wouldn’t be the right work

[spare ferry]

😭

[last flume]

Rather

Annoying

Really annoying

[waxen kelp]

You can twist the ability, even if it will result is slight inconsistencies, to improve it

[spare ferry]

Then get over it

Something’s will be annoying in life

U gotta deal with it

[waxen kelp]

Ok do I hardfail now or

[last flume]

Do you wanna?

[spare ferry]

After 3 reactions

[waxen kelp]

If you want

[spare ferry]

😭

[last flume]

Your opinion

[waxen kelp]

Hardfail is this emoji

Only given to the biggest mistakes

Example: buffing midas

[spare ferry]

Why would u hardfail it tho

Is it op or not op enough

I don’t get it

[last flume]

Annoying

[waxen kelp]

Just unbalanced

The timestop is very short but it covers the entire map

[last flume]

Half the gameplay will be waiting for a timestop to end that ain’t even in your fight

[waxen kelp]

Very inconvenient for everyone

[last flume]

Or direct at you

[spare ferry]

Server cooldown

[last flume]

Once a minute, you’re gonna have to wait 2 seconds of nothing

[waxen kelp]

R just being an instant teleportation just forces people into a combo every 15 seconds

[spare ferry]

U were the one begging me to nerf it??

[last flume]

The range

..

[spare ferry]

No cuz it has a range

Ud have to get closer

[waxen kelp]

Hell even if it's 1 person, that's still an inconvenience

[last flume]

Remove across the map timestop

[waxen kelp]

50 studs is a lot of range for a teleport

[spare ferry]

So buns

I always get hit whenever I get trapped in the limited range time stop

[waxen kelp]

Map wide timestop was removed FOR A REASON

[spare ferry]

By other players

[spare ferry]

Not in the timestop

While I’m frozen unable to defend myself

[last flume]

Then dont walk into timestops?

[spare ferry]

Game went from 5k active to 2K active that update😭

[waxen kelp]

Doubt

[spare ferry]

Believe it or not the game is slowly dying

Wait

[waxen kelp]

Due to bad balancing

[last flume]

Kinda how all games are

[spare ferry]

How about u make it so u get more range with every time stop

[waxen kelp]

Abilities need better balancing

[last flume]

Depends what it starts at

[spare ferry]

Normal time

[last flume]

85 studs start, 1 minute cooldown

And now much does it expand

Per stop

[spare ferry]

Guys

Ima make a new one and tell me if it’s balanced

[sacred furnace]

we do NOT need old timestop

[sharp sphinx]

if you want this then go to classic gamemode.