#ENGINEER (RE)MASTERY

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near quail
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elbryanwyndon and I thought mastered engineer was underwhelming, so we propose to move it to unmastery, and replace mastery with this.

(FORMATTING AND CONCEPT BY ELBRYANWYNDON, ART BY IDIOCRASY, AND CONCEPT HELP FROM ME)

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@sleek cargo

sleek cargo
near quail
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ikr!

mild holly
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drink

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all respect but i ain't reading allat

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looks good tho

sleek cargo
near quail
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yo thumbs it up at LEAST

mild holly
near quail
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thas more like it

mild holly
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in fact

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i get paid

indigo kiln
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thats a lot of words..

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too bad im not reading it

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(still gonna thumbs up tho)

sleek cargo
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im going to hurt someone

ashen wagon
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How does the whole gas thing work

near quail
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vehicles would require fuel to operate

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and can be refueled by being near a gas pump station thingy

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this would balance planes specifically

ashen wagon
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thered be a little fuel meter

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nah nah they could be in the sky

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but people can

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gravity up

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just like normal skybases

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or mech up

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or do any manner of things to get up

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and camp the fuel station

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because they KNOW theyll need to be back sooner or later

near quail
sleek cargo
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cars would have to be ground level so they could yknow

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reach em

ashen wagon
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which is why you build a small base with some defenses around your gas pump

sleek cargo
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you can already fly around

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indefinetly

near quail
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this is already a nerf

near quail
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agreed w/ wyndon i mean

sleek cargo
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its cartoonishly easy to get into a skybase

near quail
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all it means is the plane has to LAND

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and refuel

ashen wagon
# near quail and refuel

Also are you able to just carry the fuel generator, place it and start refueling anywhere you want

near quail
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assuming upon placing it has to charge to max before supplying vehicles

sleek cargo
near quail
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not a long time but

sleek cargo
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and itd be really awkward to place midair

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which

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if people are already gunning for you

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its a small map

near quail
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5 seconds is long enough to harm a plane

sleek cargo
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that means youd have to come DOWN

near quail
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i mean

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u could also do it on a tree

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where nobody is

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and then fly away when they get close

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that WOULD be annoying

sleek cargo
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the amount of abilities which can effortlessly get onto a tree

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also people can just follow under the plane

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when they go to a tree

near quail
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okay

sleek cargo
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they simply

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whack em

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also all of this is ALSO APPLICABLE TO THE CURRENT PLANES

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except they DONT HAVE TO LAND

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like i do not understand the criticism here when like. is the current system more balanced lmao?

ashen wagon
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mb

near quail
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i think theyre good questions

ashen wagon
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Another question

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What exact parts qm I able to get via leveling

sleek cargo
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thatd be up to the devs for balancing

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but generally ones relevant to your abilities

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and of course everyone would get more walls and floors

ashen wagon
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Am I able to get 2 gas stations

sleek cargo
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no

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never 2 gas stations

ashen wagon
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So always restricted to 1

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yes

ashen wagon
near quail
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presumably yes

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only the areas around them

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the entire point is youd have to build almost a fort around it

near quail
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waht

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u cant fortify it?

sleek cargo
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that or maybe fortifiable but at a HEAVY cost

near quail
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ye thats what i was thinking

sleek cargo
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the entire point is that its almost the equivelant of the ufo orb

ashen wagon
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Am I able to get more fruit launchers

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its your CENTER

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but theyre particularly rare

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like you max out at like

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3-4

ashen wagon
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maybe 5-6 if youre specifically trapper

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bigger vehicles need more gas

near quail
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can you upgrade fruit launcher to do ragdolls btw

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just thought of this

sleek cargo
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I FORGOT

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ENTIRELY

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ABOUT THE GAS TANK.

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TO WRITE ABOUT IT

ashen wagon
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good job.

sleek cargo
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okay so vehicles are supposed to have a gas tank

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that you can upgrade

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to increase gas capacity

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i just forgot to write it down

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i left space in the middle of the parts thing bc i knew there was one i was forgetting but i just gave up trying to remember

ashen wagon
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Yes

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That is intended

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I wrote about it in the fortification section

ashen wagon
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but itd be less effective than punches

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but some bigger ones will do more

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yeah archer arrows and stuff wont phase anymore

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neither will mech shots

ashen wagon
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huh

ashen wagon
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correct

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itd just youd need to get all of the resources to do that

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but they could like

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break it down

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with enough shots

ashen wagon
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BUT it increases fuel consimption due to aircraft size right?

sleek cargo
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ashen wagon
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Yeah

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its meant to be like dos

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normally you get a couple levels in

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do a bit of havoc

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and die

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and then like

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once every 2 weeks

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you get rEALLY high in levels

ashen wagon
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Another question regarding gas station, again

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and make some doctor robotnik type shit in a server

ashen wagon
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depends on how upgraded it is

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and also

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thats up to the devs for balancing

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id reckon like

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for a small plane

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uhhh

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lets say level zero fuel

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they can do

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4-5 laps around the map before coming back

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around 5 full second of fuel

ashen wagon
# sleek cargo its meant to be like dos

Nah it feels more like defender mas because the melee classes play out the exact same, you get a couple of levels, annoy people, die to midas, and once in a blue moon you get a final upgrade

sleek cargo
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exactly

ashen wagon
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The only difference is that you still doe to midas, it just takes 2 seconds longer

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thats what it was mainly based off of

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is defender mastery

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thus the leveling system

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i just figured more horizontal progression abilities would be cool

ashen wagon
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thats up to the devs

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im a game developer myself but like

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i dont know the numbers

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in abilityw ars

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so thats why i didnt write any down explicitly

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i dont know what feels best

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so im leaving it up to the devs

ashen wagon
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I'll leave an upvote for now

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I'll see what the others think about this

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brodie talkin like he the anton ego of ability wars 😭

ashen wagon
near quail
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question

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does repairing cost scrap

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@sleek cargo

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"I don't like Ability Wars, I LOVE it, and if I don't like it, I don't Upvote"

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repairing still free

near quail
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ok so repairing is free

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rad

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because

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building is also free

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so if repairing costed wouldnt you just wanna

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break and replace the thing

near quail
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yea

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i get it im jusrt thinking how op repairing a fortified part would be lol

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but tbh theyve earned the right to be that op

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if theyve gotten that far

sleek cargo
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yeah fortification would be PRICEY

flat mulch
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Is this an engineer mastery mastery, an engineer mastery rework or smth else

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Title could point to both

ashen wagon
sleek cargo
late wedge
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and i made the art guys

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dont forget

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heh

near quail
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dont forget............?

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like........ DELTARUNE

late wedge
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Drink the stink

south merlin
# near quail elbryanwyndon and I thought mastered engineer was underwhelming, so we propose t...

Very cool!
But I have an idea rework for laser, so that it can be used as a weapon:
With one laser it shoots a beam that damages players standing nearby it over time with medium-low damage (maybe 2-2.25 per second) (a particle effect at the spot where it lands to make this aoe more clear). It can't deal damage when placed on top of a Seeker.
When you put two lasers facing each other, they don't deal damage and instead act like that tripwire mechanism.

near quail
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hmm i like that

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what do u think @sleek cargo

south merlin
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because we do actually need a second weapon for planes 😄

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I never noticed how badly Engineer needed a rework.
The Mastery parts aren't even that OP.

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also why patch the flying ufo when u can just patch the knockback bug that enables it
flying is fun, but knockback bug abuse is not

sleek cargo
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That reminds me I have a design where I literally make a plane and have my friend sit while he's stardust and we beam people

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So thatd be rad

late wedge
south merlin
late wedge
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hello friend

sick loom
sleek cargo
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Need drink to get up so i can see if this is still flopping in tester suggestions

haughty yoke
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dense pelican
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W suggestion

haughty yoke
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near quail
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Oughhh

mighty ravine
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anything for an engineer buff

shy nimbus
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im so lucky i didnt get more art for this w the amount of people not reading it 😭

late wedge
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Yeah

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IM

So lucky as well

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Shoukd have said cjc3000 instead of idiocrasy nobody knows that name

sleek cargo
near quail
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whose idiocrasy

sleek cargo
late wedge
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drink the illiterate

still bison
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dont worry guys i read it

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AND the 200+ messages after it

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so i know everything

still bison
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you know

last relic
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We need this

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Engineer mastery is boring as hell

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This sounds amazing

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I originally thought of an idea where engineer would have more items but only have a certain amount of slots to have items but never decided to release it into
Suggestions

sleek cargo
haughty yoke
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please speed i need this

hearty merlin
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ain’t reading all that but peak

dull bridge
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suggestion underestimated W

near quail
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lalala

sleek cargo
hearty merlin
near quail
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hi glitch

distant trail
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this would make engi fun again W

hearty merlin
sleek cargo
near quail
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making desert more engi friendly btw..

sleek cargo
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(real)

mild holly
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(really real)

simple marten
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I. No. WE need this ✅

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I actually like this

ebon wasp
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this is rly cool.

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I like the idea of being able to specialize it's pretty well thought out for a better engi mastery

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good work and cute pictures

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u could make like a whole game off this concept alone 😭