#A compromise for Engineer

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torn valve
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So the community is pretty divided at the moment over the recent ultra-nerf, with the changes to engineer ability being the hottest topic. The main issue is, while engineer void planes where annoying for their victims, and incredibly hard to defeat, the ability was nerfed so hard that its basically useless now, and for an ability that you get by completing the hardest challenge in the entire game (that being DOS 300) that is kind of a big problem. So, I have a very simple proposal, a compromise to satisfy both sides. First, revert the engineer nerfs. In exchange, BRING BACK STATIC ABILITY! 🔥 Static ability was NOTORIOUS for being an almost guaranteed engineer killer, so if the people really need engineer to be de-powered that badly, then by simply re-adding static as opposed to nerfing engineer itself, we make engineer vulnerable again, while still allowing engineer to be actually fun to use.

junior sand
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the only nerf ii saw as nescesary was the teleporter nerf so just keep that trust

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junior sand
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yuh huh (i was one of those engineers who just built stuff)

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we got fruit eating back

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am hapi

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wait did they readd self propelling vehicle thingies with fruit i forgor

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none of the nerfs (in my opinion besides the launchpad startup and fruit cannon stuff) were either not that bad or were nescesary (evil teleporter plane nerf)

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like why give launchpad startup when it already has startup

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only thing that does

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is kills any potential for chain launchpad shenanigans

torn valve
junior sand
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it also has another thing it can do

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placing a single slab

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which attracts all the termites players in the server

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to some devious trap another ability has

torn valve
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Engineer shouldn't require teammates.

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junior sand
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termites love eating wall

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termites go try to eat wall

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termites combust due to another thing

junior sand
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wait hear me out

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mimicking old tps

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by having several engineers

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stack a couple on top of eachother

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every 25 studs

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(the termites will see them so jsut hope its not the closest to where they spawned)

torn valve
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I don't think that level of coordination is possible with internet people, my guy.

junior sand
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true

torn valve
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I remember using static to take out engineers myself. Engineers dont have ANYTHING up their sleeve to stop a static user. Its kinda like the concept of a God Slayer. The Gods are normally uncontested, but the moment the God Slayer shows up, all of a sudden they are seemingly powerless. Okay, ig thats a stupid analogy, but you get my point; I feel like it balances things out in a nice way.

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Its certainly a lot better than plugging the USB killer into the engineer ability.

shadow echo
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One more reason why suggestions should require an IQ test to access

spring sky
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this guy got mad at me for wanting to get midas nerfed so eng could have more of an edge since midas E has so much AoE and hits engs out of their chair. The reason he got mad is because if they did this then they would have less of a reason to remove the teleporter chargeup therefor making void planes obsolete.
TLDR: he has no creativity for actual eng builds and now that his one way of annoying people is gone (void planes) hes mad

torn valve
shadow echo
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👻

spring sky
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am i not allowed to read suggestions anymore?

torn valve
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Apologies. I did not realize that.

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dim geyser
torn valve
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L-look man, no mattter how balanced a fighting game is, there's still always going to be a "best character" or in our case "best ability". Given how fun engineer is in general, I feel like it shouldn't be dethroned.

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I liked the versatility Engineer used to have.

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You were able to be both a fighter, and a support! (I say engineer can be a support role bc u can build stuff to help other players. Think a DOS with a private jet!)

dusky cloak
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dusky cloak
torn valve
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Like what do you think of this post?

dusky cloak
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lavish nebula
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Engineer was absolutely butchered like now i can’t activate sideways pistons

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Oh yeah AND I can’t even place balloons on the chair or planks anymore and you can’t place more than 1

lapis valley
lavish nebula
golden topaz
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This is like bringing back the dos buff but buffing bg

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Adding a counter to a op thing doesn’t make it balanced

torn valve
# golden topaz This is like bringing back the dos buff but buffing bg
  1. with DOS being as difficult as it is, I would argue this to be a reasonable action.
  2. Balance has not been the devs concern for quite some time.
  3. my proof for point #2 is that even though engineer was nerfed to make it not broken, Midas, bone mastery etc remain untouched, which at the very least means the devs are picking favorites. If that is the case, then my case is only strengthened, as it means that there is a bias against me at the ownership level.
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The chat needs to stop kidding themsselves, the devs are either reluctant to balance the game, picking favorites, or both.

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"if god is all powerful, he can't be all good, and if god is all good, he can't be all powerful." Likewise, if the devs are unbiased, they must not care to balance the game, and if the devs care to balance the game, they must be biased.

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Apologies for all the yap, I just really need to prove my point.

fallow haven
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Engineer is still good idk what to tell u

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U can’t one shot people (which never should’ve been a thing in the first place anywyas) but you can still quickly build cars and delete servers

torn valve
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Even then

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no promises

fallow haven
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Literally a 3x3 cart with a wall in front