ABILITY BAN GAMEPASS

[trim elk]

you should mind your own business

tapping the screen also downgrading your device's lifespan

[atomic thicket]

And im giving you an advice, close it, so actual good and usefull suggestions can be seen by the devs/testers and actually get added, upgrading the game

[trim elk]

yeah no thanks im not accepting your advice

[atomic thicket]

So you're blocking actual good things that could upgrade the game

[trim elk]

game is full with broken abilities for like 1-2 years

none of them got reworked

or balanced

[atomic thicket]

Yea, and a lot of peoples activily suggest nerf/reworks

That's on the devs tho

But, this is honestly bad, and could make the game lose even more players

[trim elk]

my suggestion might be bad i accept that fact but im not closing this suggestion

[atomic thicket]

Then you're just covering the rare good gems of this forum

[trim elk]

its the people who made this suggestion arise with the dislikes

not me

and plus

[atomic thicket]

Yea, but you have the power to let it die

[trim elk]

mine doesnt cover the whole screen of the devs

[atomic thicket]

.

But just, set the hide after inactivitu to 1h or delete the original post

Cuz this post is help less

[trim elk]

nty

[atomic thicket]

And idk how you think 5 peoples liking it is enough to continue letting it live, when you have 65 dislikes
1:13 ratio

[trim elk]

i cannot let them down

[atomic thicket]

You can

And you should

[trim elk]

nty

[atomic thicket]

They are 5 persons, who probably doesn't know how unbalanced the game is

[trim elk]

ty for advice but i do not really want to use this advice

[atomic thicket]

And their balancing opinion on this shouldn't be stronger than peoples with actual good balancing opinion

[wise coral]

Hell even a tester downvoted

[trim elk]

what do they even test more unbalanced abilities?

[wise coral]

Wrong

They don't test

[trim elk]

an upcoming gamepass which will cost 4000 robux and will have same power as 300 soul dos

[wise coral]

Should explain why midas is the way it is now

[trim elk]

midas is not half bad

[atomic thicket]

Or they just don't know what balancing is

[trim elk]

compared to plasma

[wise coral]

It's unbalanced

[trim elk]

its weaker than plasma

[atomic thicket]

It's ultra unbalanced

[trim elk]

dude

its 150k punch

[wise coral]

Cost should not equal power

[atomic thicket]

That don't justifie a 9s CD counter

[trim elk]

freeze used to be like god punch which costs 20k punch

[trim elk]

oh yeah

[atomic thicket]

But got reworked wich is good

[wise coral]

And that's in the PAST

[trim elk]

lets make default op

while make midas trash

[small pine]

devs doesn't rework anymore

[trim elk]

literally people worked hard for a 150k punch ability

[wise coral]

So?

[trim elk]

just let them enjoy their power

[wise coral]

Abilities should be BALANCED

[trim elk]

so?

[trim elk]

midas is balanced

[wise coral]

No it is not

[trim elk]

what do you want? a 5k punch guy beat 150k punch guy?

[small pine]

tell us why

[wise coral]

3 moves that can combo break is not healthy

[atomic thicket]

Barrier:

[trim elk]

well its 150k punch

[small pine]

every ability can break a combo

[trim elk]

worth alot for combo breaker

[wise coral]

First, E aerial completely outclasses E grounded

[trim elk]

yeah fr

[wise coral]

That's 3 combo breakers

[trim elk]

i love breaking a combo of someone with bounty hunter mastery

or gravity mastery

[trim elk]

gravity is a combo breaker

[wise coral]

Yeah let's make an ability that costs 5M punches and nukes the server with a 1 second cooldown

[trim elk]

and it only costs 200

[wise coral]

Midas has 3 of them

[trim elk]

worth it

[trim elk]

stardust has 2 combo breakers

[wise coral]

yeah maybe there is a reason why people hate this suggestion so much

[wise coral]

Midas still had 3 of them, one which has a low cd

[trim elk]

so?

[wise coral]

That is not balanced, and that is not the only issue

[trim elk]

its balanced for the ability that requires the most punches in the game

[wise coral]

Punches should not equal power

Abilities need to be balanced

About the same power level

[small pine]

bro midas can be tricked while using its parry ability

[atomic thicket]

No. Balancing isn't around the price
But around the whole game and other abilities

[small pine]

its a weak side

[trim elk]

i love dying to a default user after years of experience

[wise coral]

9 second cooldown, you're not properly punished for missing R

[atomic thicket]

It has a 9s CD, 9s CD wich is ultra low

[trim elk]

just because someone wanted "balanced game"

[small pine]

you can throw them to void in 9 seconds

[trim elk]

i love dying with 300 souls with dos just because someone wanted "balanced" game

[wise coral]

They have 2 other moves on them

[atomic thicket]

Aerial hammer

[small pine]

hammer doesn't work in a low distance

[wise coral]

Aerial E:

[trim elk]

it just staples you to the ground

[atomic thicket]

Q wich also deasable radgoll

[atomic thicket]

Let you combo

[small pine]

then run bruh they are slowed down anyway

[atomic thicket]

Q also slow down others

[small pine]

you can still run

[atomic thicket]

No, after 1s, you're basically getting stunned

Since they can move to

[wise coral]

Don't forget that midas has 15 base M1 danage and it has scaling

[small pine]

its easily predictable

[wise coral]

So at 10M punches it can do 23 M1 damage

[small pine]

that depends on people bro

[atomic thicket]

If you're comboing them and they use it, you're basically getting stunned

[small pine]

you know they will use it

just leave distance

[atomic thicket]

If you leave distance, they can run

[small pine]

then they will not hit

[atomic thicket]

But they won't use Q

If yoy let them have distance

They'll run

Without using Q

[small pine]

let them run bruh

if they don't want pvp

[atomic thicket]

Yea, but they'll come back

Midas is Unbalanced

[small pine]

then you should run

[atomic thicket]

And it should get nerfed

[atomic thicket]

E air gives mobililty

An ability without good mobility can't escape

[wise coral]

Midas needs a nerf to the scaling and 3 of it's abilities

[atomic thicket]

And buying time with projectiles will just let them use R and stun you

So they'll caught you even faster

[wise coral]

One of the only abilities that can counter midas is archer, which is also unbalanced

[small pine]

why are you so sure that "omg the midas will kill me %100"

[atomic thicket]

Cuz, if you're running from them, and they actually target you, you can't always escape

The best thing is if you have mobility

[small pine]

then use an ability that counters midas

[wise coral]

Name them

[small pine]

you dont use god punch to kill a god punch.

[atomic thicket]

Archer: unbalanced

[small pine]

first of all, plasma

[wise coral]

All of them

[small pine]

Then return

[atomic thicket]

I destroyed plasma with midas

[gilded elm]

bg if you have better pvp

[small pine]

then god punch if you can trick midas

then grapple you can run

Blood god

[wise coral]

Return won't save you

[small pine]

quantum

[atomic thicket]

They can run and E stall you

If they are bad

[small pine]

and then malice

you can keep distance

festive to run and attack

[atomic thicket]

As i said, if you click E: R
If you use Q:R

[small pine]

alchemist to one shot them

buff is pretty good for damaging midas

and running

freeze is one of them too

[atomic thicket]

They can get you whike you're potion stacking

[small pine]

do you think it needs a nerf bro

come on...

[wise coral]

Freeze won't counter midas

[small pine]

i listed like 10

[atomic thicket]

E: R
Q: hammer

[small pine]

and what you have abilities too

time them correctly

[atomic thicket]

And i explained while a few of your lists actually can't counter midas

[small pine]

no you didnt

tell me why quantum cant counter midas

[wise coral]

Tell us why it can counter

[atomic thicket]

Quantum can stall with the dimension

[small pine]

you can pretty run with alchemist and stack potions

[small pine]

bruh

[atomic thicket]

But Q form quantum get countered by R

[wise coral]

Give us a good explanation

[small pine]

pull them in your dimension

if they are so close

if they are not, they cant attack you

[wise coral]

And they can escape it

[atomic thicket]

They can escape with E

[gilded elm]

i think midas is 80% fine

[small pine]

they cant

if they do

[gilded elm]

i hate the freaking hamer

[wise coral]

The dimension is no lomger guaranteed death

[small pine]

they wont damage wdym

u can literally teleport with quantum too

IT IS

[atomic thicket]

No
It's unbalanced af
At least 70% of it is unbalanced

[gilded elm]

if they try to do the jump + e for midas just pre-use the bg portal

and they cant run from it

[atomic thicket]

Blood god is a counter to almost everything and should get deleted

[wise coral]

Blood god turns it into a ping reliant default 1v1

[gilded elm]

what how come the restof its kit doesnt seem toooo bad

[wise coral]

Blood god is it's own can of worms

[small pine]

its a counter of midas

[hexed matrix]

Is this guy real?

[small pine]

20 TANE ABILITY LISTELEDIM COUNTERLEYEN

[hexed matrix]

Bruh.

[small pine]

hala beni çürütmeye çalışıyor

[atomic thicket]

R: 9s CD
Q: get you stunned to easily and negate ragdoll+ reduce kb
E: High stun, mobililty, 30 dmg
And all of them are combo breakers

[frank pasture]

guys a good idea is to stop arguing with this braindeadchild

[small pine]

why tf u call me a brain dead

[hexed matrix]

Yo no disrespect man

[small pine]

im pretty right in this argument

[hexed matrix]

I ain’t gonna be rude like last time.

[gilded elm]

ohhh ok mabe i just havent used midas enough

[frank pasture]

look at yourself supporting such a shit suggestion thats only purpose is to screw over ppl

[hexed matrix]

Yo either disagree or like don’t

[trim elk]

we can see the idea wasnt good beacuse you came back to argue with brain dead childs

[wise coral]

You know what, here is an even better debate
Is archer unbalanced

[frank pasture]

yes

[small pine]

can't i just like the suggestion? not everyone has to be same with you

[atomic thicket]

Yes

[wise coral]

Correct

[frank pasture]

ranged+one shot means death

if i see an archer user with volley i will go kill them first

[hexed matrix]

We ain’t forced to like yo opinions man

[frank pasture]

then continue with what im doin

[trim elk]

you can defeat archer users with alchemist very easily

[atomic thicket]

As soon as i see an archer i targted them

[hexed matrix]

Is nice to respect opinions of others

[frank pasture]

alch*mist

[wise coral]

They can kill you while you are preparing

[atomic thicket]

Until thet change abilities or leave

[small pine]

bak bak şerefsiz

HER BOKA LAF ATIYOR

[trim elk]

you can hide inside a cave

[wise coral]

Do you think they'll just let you stock up on potions

[trim elk]

and they will not dare to visit you

[frank pasture]

also we are tryna make you see sense

[small pine]

WHAT MAKES THE ALCHEMIST BAD

[wise coral]

And then?

[small pine]

you can hide

[frank pasture]

the cauldron goes up btw

if ur inside the cave

[trim elk]

do you even know how many archer users i ended with alchemist

[trim elk]

farm potions

[trim elk]

CAP THEY REWORKED THAT

[hexed matrix]

Y’all dumb just stop arguing

[trim elk]

CAP

[small pine]

man are you stupid or what? Q exists

[hexed matrix]

💔💔💔💔

[wise coral]

Do you even know what archer does

[trim elk]

LITERALLY IT SPAWNS INFRONT OF YOU INSTEAD OF UP

[atomic thicket]

Alchemist is one of the most unbalanced piece of Puzzle in this entire game

[trim elk]

yes i do

[wise coral]

Ok do you know how much damage volley does

[frank pasture]

fun fact ihavent played this shit game since they gutted engineer

[trim elk]

you have to kill over 15 people

or damage alot run like crazy

[wise coral]

Dude it takes like no time to get to level 7

[small pine]

then don't say things that you don't have the knowledge of

[hexed matrix]

Then leave

This fuck ass bitch

😭

[trim elk]

it does take alot

[hexed matrix]

You don’t even play the game

[frank pasture]

alot of ppl here dont really play teh game much

yet do they leave?

no

[trim elk]

while using a ability that evolves with the kill amounts you have

[atomic thicket]

Didn't you say no hate earlier

[wise coral]

Archer deals a lot of damage, it helps you earn a lot of exp

[trim elk]

nobody lets you breathe in peace

[small pine]

they don't hate atleast

[hexed matrix]

Yeah but sometimes you gotta go over what you stand for at the time

[frank pasture]

ah yes no hate proceeds to call me a fuck ass bitch

[wise coral]

Archer is really easy to ramp due to it's stupidly high damage output

[wise coral]

Ranged damage output

[small pine]

yea whatever

[trim elk]

they are literally easy to kill without alchemist too

[trim elk]

just midas

[hexed matrix]

Mf you here dissing shit without even playing the game

[trim elk]

just plasma

[wise coral]

Archer is litetally one of midas' counters

[frank pasture]

i haveent played since engineer got gutted which is still fairly recent

[trim elk]

me when pressing r

againts their ability

[wise coral]

Me when 80 damage volley

[frank pasture]

it would be an issue if it was like 2 years ago i last played

[trim elk]

80 DAMAGE AND YOUR CALLING IT ONESHOT?

[small pine]

you just said nothing can counter midas

[trim elk]

nah im done

[wise coral]

I didn't even call it oneshot

[trim elk]

you did

[frank pasture]

he said it can ramp up alot of damage

fool

[wise coral]

Look back a few messages

[wise coral]

Show

[gilded elm]

i think thats without dmg orb cuz i definitely oneshot someone with volley recently

lemme find the clip

[wise coral]

Without orb it does 80 damage

[trim elk]

oh wait sorry mb i mistake you over him

[atomic thicket]

Dmg orb is 100

[wise coral]

Wih orb it deals 100 damage

[wise coral]

Either way, me when 80 damage beam of death

[trim elk]

yet easy guy to kill

[wise coral]

80 damage

[trim elk]

yeah their cooldown isnt 1 seconds

[wise coral]

By then you're like 1 hit away from death

[gilded elm]

its not gonna be easy when all they do is run from you and spam 20 dmg arrows

[wise coral]

Archer shoots a 25 damage projectile every 1.5 seconds at level 4

[trim elk]

there are abilities that slow people or give you speed

[wise coral]

And they can heal via leveling

[trim elk]

and if you want to tank his attacks?

[gilded elm]

volley

[trim elk]

just use plasma

[wise coral]

Archer can shoot while ragdolled, so not an option

[wise coral]

Wait until Q expires, then evil volley of death and despair

[trim elk]

bro they are literally easy to kill than 100 kill dos or 300 kill dos

[wise coral]

Big difference, archer is way easier and faster to ramp

Plus, archer does not have an angry mob chasing them at all times

[frank pasture]

also to poke even more holes in the suggestion itself imagine this you just got custom u want to test it out then boom it gets banned by some player with 2k punches

[trim elk]

whole server attacks me when i reach the level of 3 with defender mastery

any class

[wise coral]

doesn't happen to me for some reason

Maybe that's just your luck?

[gilded elm]

wait idk if this was already discussed but what if a rampant dos or hivemind jus bans the 3 best counters (bg, gp, and alch)

[wise coral]

Also

[trim elk]

most likely god punch will be banned what are you on about

[wise coral]

Archer is so unbalanced

2 out of 3 paths are downgrades

Literally how

[trim elk]

bro your type of person who would write 1 million word essay about why all abilities should be equal to default punch

[frank pasture]

just because most likely gp will get banned doesent meancustom cant

[gilded elm]

it kind of actually is though

[wise coral]

25 damage projectile every 1.5 seconds

Not balanced

[frank pasture]

your the type of person to suggest to ban all abilities except blood god

[trim elk]

spam jump

[wise coral]

Won't save you from a skilled archer

[trim elk]

move in a unpredictable patterns

[wise coral]

Arrows have a bigger projectile than you think

[wise coral]

You will have to slow yourself down

[trim elk]

at this point the game should be removed because archer exists

[gilded elm]

cant you just aim where their head would be to always hit them no matter if they jump

[wise coral]

Which gives archer more potential to squeeze in damage

[trim elk]

just remove ability wars

[wise coral]

Plus they can predict your movement

[small pine]

no one is that skilled

[gilded elm]

i think him

[small pine]

bro bring me max archer and i can kill them in a few minutes

[frank pasture]

ur just dodging the arguements cruel critic gives

[wise coral]

I am saying that as an archer main, it is insanely unbalanced

[small pine]

its not

[gilded elm]

not max archer the q is not as good as volley

[wise coral]

Level 7 is harder to take down imo

[trim elk]

it will all score the same

that im keeping this suggestion

[small pine]

god punch with speed orb clears

just get near them

[wise coral]

Volley:

[trim elk]

and theres absolutely NO WAY to you make me delete this suggestion

if the suggestion is removed

then its by an mod

not me

[frank pasture]

therefore that mod has more brainpower then the average ability wars player

[trim elk]

give god punch some recovering potions along the way

[frank pasture]

to know that this suggestion is not well recieved

by average ability war player i mean you

[trim elk]

you will recover it in insant

[wise coral]

That is using 2 abilities

[trim elk]

werent you the one who were complaining about midas breaking combos?

teamwork is a combo

[wise coral]

That's not how it works

[trim elk]

that is exactly how it works

[wise coral]

A combo is when you lock your enemy into a chain of attacks

Combo breaking is when you escape said combo or make ot backfire

[trim elk]

i could bring my bro and we could play with people like ping pong

[wise coral]

When discussing balancing, usually abilities are compared in a 1v1 scenario

Making it a 2v1 is stupid

[small pine]

but not in every scenario

[trim elk]

you dont play the game in 1v1 always

[small pine]

you can team in the game

[paper cloud]

comparing a midas combo to 2 people teaming is crazy

[trim elk]

well its him

making me

bring this shit up

[wise coral]

That is the best way to compare abilities

[trim elk]

just because he wants all abilities to be equal to default

[wise coral]

That is not what I said

I said

[trim elk]

max server count is literally 18 people

[wise coral]

All abilities need to be equal in power

[small pine]

thats what you mean

[paper cloud]

ok but 2 people teaming up is nowhere close to midas using a combo

[small pine]

if they equal in power it wouldnt be fun

[trim elk]

midas breaking a combo*

not doing a combo

[paper cloud]

oh mb

[wise coral]

It would be more balanced, playing a balanced game is fun

[paper cloud]

didnt look up

[small pine]

ability wars supposed to be chaos

[wise coral]

You cannot disregard balancing

[trim elk]

i love playing the game for years and dying to a 1k punch user

[wise coral]

Just because you like chaos

[paper cloud]

i mean then how are new people gonna play

if they dont even know whats happening

[wise coral]

That's on you for dying to a new player

[small pine]

they will get used to it

[small pine]

no bro

[paper cloud]

tf u mean get used to it

[small pine]

you say everything should be balanced

[trim elk]

dude your literally saying they all should equal in power

[small pine]

god punch= shift you say

[gilded elm]

what

[trim elk]

so

a new player could

[gilded elm]

balanced doesnt mean equal in power

[trim elk]

stand up againts me

[gilded elm]

dude

[small pine]

thats what he says

[wise coral]

Yeah, equal in power, as in not too strong and not too weak

[gilded elm]

it is not what he says

[wise coral]

Everything needs to be rebalanced

[trim elk]

how the heck do you expect a 1k punch guy's ability should equal to a 150k punch guy's ability

in power

[small pine]

he is arguing about midas and its been over like an hour

we cant explain

[wise coral]

Already?

No wonder this is so boring now

I quit

[small pine]

he wants buff to equal midas

[gilded elm]

nerf*

[small pine]

since he wants " balanced "

Buff ability bruh

[gilded elm]

buff is not bad of an ability though its a solid b tier ability

midas is just unbalanced

[frank pasture]

not equal but fair for everyone to go up against fool

[trim elk]

then what will be the point of someone farming for 150k punch

[small pine]

you cant be respectful bruh

just make midas 10k punches atp

[trim elk]

2x punch and 3x punch gamepass was made to reach those numbers easily

[frank pasture]

i dont show respect to ppl who support this

[frank pasture]

equal to go up against

we dont want abilities that are shit to go up against

dos hivemind dont count

[trim elk]

then everyone will not have a goal at the game

[gilded elm]

what???

[trim elk]

since they match to 150k punch guy

[frank pasture]

ok ur saying we should make the game as unbalanced as possible?

lets make all abilities below 10k punches do 1 damage per ability

how fun

[trim elk]

punches should be the thing that balances the abilities

[wise coral]

Punches should not equal power

[trim elk]

remove punches then

make the game like the strongest battlegrounds

[trim elk]

all abilities are accessible to everyone expect god punch

[frank pasture]

ok so by ur logic more punchesm eans more power huh

[wise coral]

Punch count should not justify an ability being unbalanced

[frank pasture]

true

[wise coral]

5M punch ability that bans everyone

And downloads a virus on their device

And sends a hitman

[restive ember]

also leaks their ip and their password

[frank pasture]

no a more realistic one

would be

[wise coral]

Trust

[wise coral]

9 billion damage

[frank pasture]

everything u said with what this person said

[frank pasture]

adn that

[frank pasture]

by ur logic if checken adds an ability for 8m punches it should be so op that not even dos is safe

[trim elk]

exactly

[frank pasture]

you really are insufferable as a person

[atomic thicket]

Bruh

[trim elk]

cry about it i guess

[atomic thicket]

Get a job in balancing

[wise coral]

That would make the game unfun

Which means less players

[atomic thicket]

Cuz punch, shouldn't mean something is too op

[frank pasture]

so this game should be an unbalanced mess?

[trim elk]

bet if checken gave yall a ability that is always in dos 300 killstreak and called "thanos" yall wouldnt complain about "look how op i am i should be banned i should be removed from the game"

[trim elk]

the game already has less players

[trim elk]

which means the game is unfun

[wise coral]

It needs balancing

[frank pasture]

thanos was removed

[trim elk]

yet they do not start balancing abilities

[frank pasture]

if ur gonna bring up a removed ability

[gilded elm]

when we say abilities should be balanced we’re not saying every ability should be equal in power we’re saying that every ability (no matter how many punches it costs) should have some type of counter to it or just something to not make it bad to go up against

[frank pasture]

might as well bring up every admin ability

[gilded elm]

and balancing abilities wont remove peoples' goals for grinding at the game

[frank pasture]

i swear the intelligence of this server and all others has dropped by a significant amount since u came along

[gilded elm]

most people dont grind abilities just cuz theyre op they grind it to have other options to use

[trim elk]

would you study to get 100 grade if your grades always 99

[gilded elm]

probably yeah

if a class is that easy of course cuz it looks cooler

[trim elk]

would you get upset if your too smart but a dumb kid getting 99 without studying and you worked hard to get 100

[gilded elm]

no

[trim elk]

that explains it all

thanks for your time

i think you should leave

[gilded elm]

why should i care what grade another person gets

[trim elk]

beacuse this suggestion will not be removed by me

[gilded elm]

i did not ask you to remove your suggestion

man is this ragebait

you almost got me

[trim elk]

sorry for blaming you for that ig

most of people does that

[trim elk]

no

[gilded elm]

im just trying to figure out why you dont really want balance in the game

[trim elk]

look dude

i want that hard work should matter

[trim elk]

like

a 1k ability guy shouldnt struggle to kill a 5k ability guy but should struggle to kill a 150k ability guy

[trim elk]

and 100k ability guy should not struggle to kill 150k ability guy

[small pine]

DID YOU EVER have a problem with a midas user that you couldn't solve even you used every ability?

[frank pasture]

so bassiclly anyone with above 150k punches should get the ability to bully everyone who is new?

got it

[small pine]

of course, you should die to learn the game

you have to face toxicity

[trim elk]

bullying is based on the people

i personally would not abuse killing underleveled people unless they are toxic

[gilded elm]

so you're saying punch count = free win in fights? That kills the point of learning anything in the game.

[small pine]

midas is not win bro

[frank pasture]

what this person said

[small pine]

grapple clears it

bruh

[gilded elm]

no

well actually yes

[trim elk]

yeah

[small pine]

well then you accept every ability loses to midas

[trim elk]

so people wants to get high punch count to defeat people

[small pine]

which is impossible

[trim elk]

easily

and fight people close or same punch count

[trim elk]

while sweating

[small pine]

muzaffer burdan sonra benim suggestiona bak yukarıları çık adam okumadan direkt tüm nefretini dökmüş aq

[trim elk]

harbi samet

[gilded elm]

then what’s the point of pvping higher punch people? why not just let higher punch players oneshot the lower punch ppl

[trim elk]

so they know their place

and do not get toxic after defeating them

or think "man high punch abilities are so weak"

[gilded elm]

how would balancing the game make ppl think that?

you just sound like you wanna bully lower punch ppl

[trim elk]

nah

[small pine]

we did not target low punch people and we will never

[trim elk]

but i wouldnt want to get humiliated by a guy with blood god kill me while im using midas just beacuse they have higher ping

[small pine]

bro forget targetting, we HELP them

[trim elk]

i helped a 20k punch guy weeks ago with getting dos 300 souls

[gilded elm]

so how do you explain your friend saying that higher punch abilities should be unbalanced just so lower punch ppl "know their place"

[frank pasture]

another problem with the game

[trim elk]

then whats the point of getting high punch count

[frank pasture]

ppl can get 300 souls for practiclly free if everyone helps them

[gilded elm]

to get access to a wider variety of abilities

[small pine]

bro they need to learn from experience. You can't get 300 souls with dos if its your first time playing it. you need to learn weak and strong ways of every ability and every boost

[gilded elm]

punch count should not equal power

[small pine]

dos is just an example

[trim elk]

then why punch count exists

[wise coral]

Can confirm, while I was getting egg, I was treated like the messiah

[trim elk]

why not just make all abilities require badges

[frank pasture]

will you guys listen to me i am not the messiah
HE IS THE MESSIAH

[gilded elm]

even abilties requiring badges cost punches

[wise coral]

So you just earn abilities, they do not have to be stronger

[trim elk]

they clearly dont want new people to use them beacuse those are broken abilities

[gilded elm]

what??

[wise coral]

Punches should mean complexity instead of power

[trim elk]

like rage

[gilded elm]

so you think spectral is a broken ability

[wise coral]

That seems like a logical solution

[trim elk]

dude

[frank pasture]

i agree sirius

[trim elk]

its literally broken

[trim elk]

they cannot touch your soul

[small pine]

then nerf every mastery and nerf god punch make it 2 shots to kill someone

[trim elk]

while you as soul can touch them easily

a counter for god punch

[frank pasture]

gosh you have no mind

[small pine]

he says everything should be balanced

[frank pasture]

has your brain turned to dust before you did?

[small pine]

im not talking about punches

[frank pasture]

IT SHOULD BE

[small pine]

nope

there should be overpowered abilities

according to your logic max hivemind should equal to teleportation

[frank pasture]

ok so to you punch count=power

[small pine]

ye

[frank pasture]

according to ur stupid logic an ability with 8m punch count should be fucking god

[small pine]

you FARM for it

[small pine]

There is ability limits you know

[frank pasture]

punch count=skill and complexity to me

[small pine]

currently midas is max

[frank pasture]

yea but by ur logic 8m punches means u become god

[small pine]

no

my logic doesn't work like that

read again

[frank pasture]

.

[frank pasture]

.

[gilded elm]

comparing max hivemind to teleportation is like saying a firecracker and a bomb are the same because they both heat stuff

[frank pasture]

no

even better

is this

[unreal totem]

watching this post be on top is sad to watch

[gilded elm]

hivemind scales with kills of course its gona be one of the most powerful abilities at max

[frank pasture]

saying max hive and tp is like saying dirt and a nuclear bomb are the same

[wise coral]

True

[frank pasture]

mhm

they should add an iq test to make suggestions

ong

get sheep of rainbows to lock this down

[gilded elm]

im trying to argue with logic but i just cant argue with stupid people this has to be some type of forbidden ragebait

i might just get ignorant and stop using logic

[frank pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-gif-13651343932225023693

[wise coral]

That's what I said

[frank pasture]

guh

they should make u a tester

fr

if u want to be one that is

[frank pasture]

litterally try applying this logic to any other game

let me give an example forsaken if they do smt like 6000 currency killer or survivour smt is too op

[small pine]

i said some abilites should be oberpowered

i aint going to argue man

[gilded elm]

can you explain why

what'll just stop the people from all using the 1 overpowere ability

[small pine]

Strong abilities = dopamine explosion so you can enjoy the game more while you unlock better abilities

[frank pasture]

so bassiclly

[wise coral]

Abilities should be enjoyable to use AND fight against

[frank pasture]

u want checken to make more money then making the community satisfied?

ight then sums it up

this person is checkens alt

[small pine]

i don't think checken satisfies the community

[gilded elm]

dopamine rush for the one using btw

[small pine]

for everyone man

every people would enjoy

[red summit]

he almost does, but crutch god still has not been removed from the game so I can't say that with full conviction

[gilded elm]

would you like it if you had to go against an unfair overpowered ability that you couldnt counter

[frank pasture]

the only way ppl will be getting that rush is if they are the ones enjoying it only

[small pine]

there would be a way to somehow counter it

[frank pasture]

if the rest of the serversare on their knees because of smt thats a problem

[small pine]

if someone doesn't enjoy the game they quit bro

[frank pasture]

and before u bring hivemind and dos to the equation

[red summit]

I have yet to see a way to counter crutch god or alchemist mastery

[frank pasture]

they take time and kills

[gilded elm]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-oh-desmond-rdcworld1-oh-no-rdcworld-gif-2740339329438450461

[frank pasture]

ppl wont enjoy the game if they keep dying to unbalanced shit

[small pine]

alchemist mastery solution is return and gp

quantum

midas parry

[gilded elm]

bro siphoning potions

[red summit]

gp and quantum don't counter because of the mushroom potions and return is not a counter, it's a neutral option for simply living

[small pine]

who would spend time doing those

[gilded elm]

theres no cap and its a ranged oneshot at 3+

also i think it bypasses return q

[red summit]

calling return a counter to anything is equivalent to calling spectator a counter to that thing

[small pine]

use mage to heal yourself

[gilded elm]

they can get potions faster than you can heal and youll run out of mana

[wise coral]

Didn't you say before that alch mas counters midas

[red summit]

you'll live, but you won't kill because the alchemist can outheal your damage and run away from edges with speed

[wise coral]

Why is it suddenly the other way around

[small pine]

Everything depends on the situation

[frank pasture]

hypocritical they are

[small pine]

im not giving %100 chance

[small pine]

then use plant they wont run if they get potions climb and dodge bruh

[red summit]

or maybe you actually don't live, because the alchemist stacks strength potions to oneshot you

[gilded elm]

siphoning

[frank pasture]

i hate crutch god because ppl mainly use it to counter dos

[small pine]

you can dodge potions

it exists

[frank pasture]

mushroom field in question

[gilded elm]

bro it has a radius

[frank pasture]

can u dodge that?!

[small pine]

i said climb with plant

[gilded elm]

if you try to come down and punch theyll jus tthrow all the potions at yo

[small pine]

he will miss 9 potions out of 10

[red summit]

I hate crutch god because it's practically unkillable outside of the arena and it's used as a crutch by players who suck ass at everything except punching.
Also, this might be cope but for some reason I cannot get punch combos while in the crutch god arena.

the best you can do against a competent alchemist mastery user is merely survive, so I do not consider alchemist mastery to have any counters

you can't even really do what you'd do with unmastered alchemist, camping the pot, because alchemist mastery doesn't even need the pot to get unlimited access to potions

and many alchemist mastery users have their favourite op recipes memorised to execute in a matter of seconds

[wise coral]

They can also recast E to withdraw their pot

[potent comet]

why hasn't a mod removed this joke suggestion?

[real gull]

has anybody used crafter in a while

[wet glen]

This just shows how much careless they are to suggestions

[potent comet]

@soft rock does this count as a joke suggestion?

[soft rock]

no

what's the joke

[potent comet]

idk feels like a suggestion that was made to ragebait people

and i feel like ragebait suggestions kinda fall under joke suggestions?

[wet glen]

This is just a straight money grabbing like steal a brainrots.

[potent comet]

is that game any good?

i've seen it's the number 2 game on roblox

along with gambling plant simulation

[wet glen]

Not at all

At least steal a brainrots still has gameplays unlike grow a garden

It's basically a rip off of farming game in playstore from 10 years ago.

Wasn't even better than the original aswell actually

[potent comet]

ngl i feel like survive jeff the killer is more fun that gag

(grow a garden)

[wet glen]

tfym, survive Jeff the killer is peak

[potent comet]

fair

[wet glen]

To be fair I'd prefer to get a life more than the farming nonsenses itself.

[potent comet]

yea

[wet glen]

Just plants your own garden

[potent comet]

i have a little garden

my grandmother and mother made

[wet glen]

If you don't have patient to waits for them to grows, You DON'T deserves a garden in the first place

[potent comet]

real!

[wet glen]

People need to get a life

[potent comet]

as a no lifer i don't really know if i need to get a life

i feel like i would be a danger to the world if i got a life

[wet glen]

Not a job though, That shit scary

[potent comet]

the only job i'd want

is to work for a roblox dev or something

[wet glen]

Office workers are literal npc's

[potent comet]

yea

[crimson garnet]

foolishness

[potent comet]

machine

[frank pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v1-gabriel-gif-26595155