lowkey make it so engineers cant just place teleporters at the backrooms tp and the cauldron

[lethal crow]

this is featured in mmm’s balance changes

wait shit that’s not advertising right

[lethal crow]

@hollow cedar are you ok with this message
i can delete it

[hollow cedar]

huh

what does that even mean

[lethal crow]

the user mmm has a list of balance changes

as a suggestion

[hollow cedar]

yeah\

[lethal crow]

engi tp backrooms and cauldron exclusion is in those changes

[left pulsar]

HECK NO
Yes to the alchemist and backrooms, those are skillless ez life hacks for engi that should not exist
HOWEVER
I have seen this "no wall, no [xyz]" thing happen to Portal Mastery, which now SUCKS
No, placing things on walls and in air should exist
bases are cool and a massive part of engineer that, if removed, would erupt a large portion of the AW community into anger.
Wall bases can easily be countered with plant, just like Lava removes cars.

[zealous nymph]

make tps not work on planes

[hollow cedar]

YES PLEASE

[tropic inlet]

The idea of backrooms is good but please dont take our skybases!

Guys its easy

Make it so that you have to stand on a tp 3 seconds

Thats good for everyone

No more trolling

And you dont accidentally tp away from your skybase

@hollow cedar please add my suggestions to ur message if u agree

[hollow cedar]

aright

[gilded garden]

That's me

[lethal crow]

ay

this man edited his suggestion

i need my yummy sky bases

[gilded garden]

The only thing I agree with is no cauldron and backrooms tps

The skybases though

Ehhhhhhhhh

[south berry]

You forgot a crucial part

that is, portal mastery is ONLY the portals

portal mastery also can not place portals directly under players

i agree that trees should be placeable in the air

but not teleporters

it's unbelievably overpowered and overshadows other parts of engineer combat

[lethal crow]

god punch if it was good

[south berry]

literally ranged flying gp

that you can counter with like one ability (bh mas)

unless of course

the engi user brings a barrrier with them

then you just can't do anything

you can bug abuse of course but that's bug abuse

[lethal crow]

yeah engi tps should be destroyed if they’re over the void or near any instant die hazards

tp strats should at least be creative

[gilded garden]

The consequences of making an ability able to make planes and skybases with teleporters in a game where most combat is grounded

[south berry]

like I would be fine if someone took their time to build a void teleporter and it took actual effort

but it can be built in 3 seconds

tree floor teleporter

boom

server sweeper is done

[gilded garden]

And it can only be countered by 2 things

BH mas and unmas defender

Maybe archer too if you can kill them quickly enough before they fly away

Anythine else either doesn't work or is bug abuse

[lethal crow]

bb

if you’re a sling sweat

but often it’s faster than you

so you gotta pull some trowel rocket jump shit

[gilded garden]

Also

Any other criticism for the fire path thing?

[south berry]

I'm like

fairly sure your sword prioritizes the build

it definitely does so if you place a tree in your seat

[lethal crow]

yeah

😭

[lethal crow]

not rlly

[left pulsar]

@south berry So what? WHAT THE HECK ARE PLANES EVEN FOR
At that point, planes are only good for horribly aimed fruit guns, which are pretty useless.

[lethal crow]

who’s gonna tell him

the ac130

[lethal crow]

and yknow

[left pulsar]

dude i don't care what fruit gun contraption you have, the fruit gun is still not effective

[lethal crow]

maybe they shouldn’t be able to oneshot the whole server in seconds

[left pulsar]

yeah i agree

[lethal crow]

(current state of engi planes)

[left pulsar]

BUT

ONE OPTION, the FRUIT GUN should not be the only option for planes.
Planes should be able to do so much more if they remove teleport planes

bombs, lasers, etc

don't just make planes good for one ineffective build of fruit guns

additionally, as long as you target the engineer, it's easy to wear down their resolve and also easy to stop them from making anything dangerous

heck, most counters to engineer stop the carnage at like 5 kills

[south berry]

then add something else to planes

something that would not be stupidly broken

[south berry]

even if it's the main use for planes, that does not mean it's a BALANCED thing

[lethal crow]

I only stated that teleporters should be deleted if they are over the void

[south berry]

also yeah

that

[lethal crow]

this means you could make an ACTUALLT CREATIVE contraption that still oneshots

[south berry]

i never even said that they should remove teleporter planes

[lethal crow]

like a turret in front of a teleporter

[south berry]

you can still have teleporter planes

just not effortless brainless void teleporters

that take 3 seconds to build

[lethal crow]

or a fan in front of a teleporter