This arguably makes randomiser worse
#~~Randomizer Mastery~~ - Scrapped (I suck at suggesting)
slate mist
Also this would be pointless to add
well they ask for suggestions
and they didn't say Randomizer couldn't be a mastery
obsidian stirrup
This arguably makes randomiser worse
randomiser is not an actual ability
obsidian stirrup
it can be equipped from a stand tho
checken considers default as a non ability
so why should randomiser be considered one?
slate mist
so why should randomiser be considered one?
cuz default can be equipped through randomizer
other than that
he didn't say he doesn't count randomizer as a non ability
also it has a badge requirement and punch requirement
like all other abilities
obsidian stirrup
cuz default can be equipped through randomizer
it simply equips a random ability
slate mist
it simply equips a random ability
Fair
but still
Wouldn't it be fun to have a different version of randomizer by mastering it?
surreal fossil
Wouldn't it be fun to have a different version of randomizer by mastering it?
This version isnt very fun
It’s just click a button and hope it’s useful
slate mist
It’s just click a button and hope it’s useful
yeah well it's not much different to dying and getting a new ability
also if it's a bad ability just use the ability
if it has no E ability then punch someone and it switches or smthn
surreal fossil
yeah well it's not much different to dying and getting a new ability
It is different
At least with normal randomiser you get to know what your abilities does
slate mist
It is different
if you use your e ability then it tells you what your new ability is too
surreal fossil
This takes a move out of 93 different abilities
slate mist
thought that was pretty clear
surreal fossil
if you use your e ability then it tells you what your new ability is too
So when you spawn
You get
1 move
slate mist
1 move
no no no
when you spawn you get an ability
it tells you the ability
you use your ability, you get a new ability
surreal fossil
it tells you the ability
Move or ability
slate mist
and it tells you your new ability
surreal fossil
Ability is a set of moves
surreal fossil
Move is what is used in an ability
slate mist
you use your ability
slate mist
Move is what is used in an ability
that
mb
ok
hold on
lemme be clear
The mastery works just as normally as regular randomizer
except you have to use your move
to change abilities
and yes, it does tell you what new ability you got
surreal fossil
Wouldn’t that mean this ability is just more complex dice?
slate mist
hm
that's fair
but dice doesn't have 93 different abilities to choose from
it has 12 different actions
surreal fossil
Yeah
And that’s because
No one is really bothered to memorise what every single move in the game
viscid hedge
slate mist
i mean randomizer mastery could show abilities anyone barely uses anymore
viscid hedge
what..
slate mist
since everyone just uses overpowered abilities
surreal fossil
Like imagine you get a prompt saying your next move is “Lemon mastery R”
slate mist
no one really pays attention to the weaker abilities
slate mist
Like imagine you get a prompt saying your next move is “Lemon mastery R”
what?? no no no
that's not how it works
viscid hedge
Who would memorise the abilities of 93 abilities
surreal fossil
i mean randomizer mastery could show abilities anyone barely uses anymore
That’s what randomiser already does
Just that it does it better
slate mist
That’s what randomiser already does
yeah but instead of dying you have to use your ability's move
to change abilities
surreal fossil
to change abilities
Yeah but
Then the player wouldn’t learn what the ability itself is
surreal fossil
They would only know it’s moves
Let’s say we have Rage E
Rage E is affected by rage’s passive
slate mist
hm maybe i should rework it....
surreal fossil
If we only apply rage E im the ability
slate mist
let's say you get to use your ability for 10 moves?
slate mist
Then players wouldn’t get what rage it
if players dont have rage in the first place they wouldnt know what it does either way
tawny wasp
you get E, Q and R from different abilities and a random passive (like butter's, rage's, berserker's), that'd be cool lol
surreal fossil
if players dont have rage in the first place they wouldnt know what it does eith...
Why would you get to use an ability you don’t have
surreal fossil
you suggested that
I didn’t wth
I just provided an example where this mastery used rage’s E move
slate mist
Then players wouldn’t get what rage it
pretty sure that people who have rage would use it
since they got the badge for it
surreal fossil
pretty sure that people who have rage would use it
Ok nvm here’s another example
Imagine you’re using randomiser mastery
And you get
Soda E
(In the context that the player has never used soda before)
slate mist
ok
slate mist
hm you make a fair point
surreal fossil
They’re gonna think
Soda is useless
(Which it isnt, it’s like one of the most meta)
slate mist
that's fair
tbh i might have a better idea
what if randomizer mastery combines different abilities
surreal fossil
what if randomizer mastery combines different abilities
What
slate mist
search up "randomizer ability wars" and press on the ability wars wiki
you see how it has the hivemind and barrier equipped?
surreal fossil
Yeah?
surreal fossil
.
surreal fossil
So what if I get alchemist E and return E
slate mist
or time e and god punch
surreal fossil
I become
slate mist
too op maybe?
surreal fossil
Invincible
surreal fossil
too op maybe?
Yes
slate mist
yeah pretty much.
slate mist
yeah fair...
surreal fossil
Dos + alchemist
And there’s nothing stopping ppl from just
Resetting until they get it
surreal fossil
It’s worth it because it’s basically guaranteed Dos 300
surreal fossil
well 1.5k kills is 1.5k kills
With that logic, we should create an ability that can fly, one shot, and become thanos (that costs 10 million punches)
slate mist
lmfao
slate mist
With that logic, we should create an ability that can fly, one shot, and become ...
tbh i might just scrap the suggestion entirely
slate mist
Randomiser having a mastery isnt a good idea to begin with
i made a different idea
read through it and tell me any flaws
cuz i dont exactly have the best ability ideas
lol
surreal fossil
Link it
slate mist
surreal fossil
https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1377817212580003870/137781721258...
I meant the other idea
surreal fossil
So why’d you put a link to the suggestion we’re in
slate mist
So why’d you put a link to the suggestion we’re in
i remade it
it's a different idea for Randomizer Mastery
slate mist
lmfao
slate mist
Say you are Dos
yeah nvm 💀
surreal fossil
And a randomiser mas comes up
slate mist
i see how that's a problem
surreal fossil
Turn you to butter
slate mist
What if DOS users aren't affected by it
candid orchid
still annoying as hell