"star-fall" stardust mastery

[dapper herald]

IF you agree than than click on ⭐

if not than

uh thumb down

[tough saffron]

Ah yes stardust but make it better and remove Q’s only weakness

Sounds balanced to me

[dapper herald]

bruh

[tough saffron]

If the E is basically identical to current stardust then it poses the current stardust problem of being undodgeable

[jade zodiac]

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[dapper herald]

the stars deal less dmg and there are more of them and diffrent varations

[tough saffron]

As long as the stardust user’s aim isn’t absolutely shit the stars just teleport from the sky and have no indicator

Make it more like meteor if anything

[dapper herald]

BRUH WHY DO I HAVE A SOME KIND OF A HATE STEP ON ME WHENEVER I MAKE SUGGESTION THE FIRST PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS HE ONE WHO DISLIKE OMG

[dapper herald]

wont work

bc its meteor abilit just

and i have already stated its mostly just an upgraded version of current none mastery star dust

[tough saffron]

So more of the undodgeable stars without changing the undodgeable part

Even going so far as to add bigger undodgeable stars

AND MASTERIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SIDEGRADES

STARDUST IS ALREADY HIGH A TIER

[dapper herald]

q ability and r ability

[dapper herald]

i dont see anyone using it normally

[tough saffron]

because it’s like… one of the most expensive abilities?

[dapper herald]

what if i tell you that i have seen 20+ people who had 80k and less than 100k and they DID NOT used stardust

?

[tough saffron]

It is highly likely that they were using S tier abilities instead

Or yknow playing the game for fun and not caring how good their ability is

[dapper herald]

and your telling me its a high tier

[tough saffron]

Well yes it still needs a nerf but there are better abilities

[dapper herald]

magnet mastery gravity mastery bone mastery and army mastery :

[dapper herald]

talking that you placed it on high tier and no one uses by any normally means yes change and your saying needs nerf

wow

10/10

[tough saffron]

I said it was high A tier

The parts where it suffers is why i wouldn’t use it

[dapper herald]

quantum crying rn i think

[tough saffron]

But the damage and dodgeability of the moves are still obscene

And R turns you into fucking rabbit

[dapper herald]

r is good for healing and protection

not for that even

[dapper herald]

thats the WEAKNESS that i have said I MOSTLY REMOVED

huh

[tough saffron]

IM TALKING ABOUT THE GOOD PARTS OF STARDUST YOU BUFFOON

R TURNING YOU INTO A RABBIT IS ALREADU BUSTED NOT INCLUDING THE HEALS OR DMG BUFF

[dapper herald]

[dapper herald]

THATS WHY I ALMOST COMPLETLY CHANGED IT TO BEING MORE STATIONERY THAN MOVING AROUND

[tough saffron]

the damage and the moves being unmissable is why stardust is high A tier

[quick folio]

man i sure do love making a oneshot that could easily kill like half the server a 32 second cd

[dapper herald]

barely people hit me with it

[dapper herald]

yk how long it is

[quick folio]

yea but with 10 dmg a tic

you can just vaporize anyone caught in it

and the wind up isn't even much

[dapper herald]

with wind up nad being able to cancel ah yes yes yes

[quick folio]

like just punch and use it and free kill

[dapper herald]

ok wind up

10000000 seconds

good

?

[tough saffron]

also it puts you in the air

[quick folio]

for the 70 dmg you can jump to take much less

and they have to be beaming you

[dapper herald]

you stil can just press spacebar and click m1 which you might forgot and some ranged abilitys work as well

[quick folio]

this is just like punch someone they are instantly dead and get another free kill while your at it

[dapper herald]

for the wind up you can either back off or if your close enough to try and cancel it

[tough saffron]

what if the stardust mastery user jumps over a gap and uses the ability

[dapper herald]

which will backfire a lot

[dapper herald]

which like void etc>

?

[tough saffron]

what

how is this at all like void

[quick folio]

IT IS RANGED THO

[dapper herald]

if your talking about void than they are probably dead

[tough saffron]

no i mean over a piece of terrain

[dapper herald]

wow we are talking about ranged things

[quick folio]

and anyone with 1 braincell will punch anyone close before they use it

[dapper herald]

did you forgot

[dapper herald]

oh than

just go to them as well

it will just work like gravity

[jade zodiac]

no stardust buff pls

ok tyyyyyyyy

[tough saffron]

you also forgot to consider that stardust users probably won’t do this at point blank

making it like undodgeable

[jade zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329630331451605092/1369879715904491600/togif.gif

[tough saffron]

unstoppable

[dapper herald]

just back off

it wont stop you

[tough saffron]

ok so let’s see the overview

[dapper herald]

"-10000/10 i dont like star dust and its op as hell rahhh idc get out suggestion bc yes"

i keep loving that many people just dont see anything good and if its slightly good than it means op

[tough saffron]

E doesn’t fix the core issues of base stardust E still being undodgeable

Q is like base stardust Q but even worse not being able to be dodged by taking the high ground

and R is a massive buff/debuff zoning zone just in case the user didn’t already have a massive advantage

creative but fuck you

[dapper herald]

E: as i said its MOSLTY THE SAME AND NOT JUST A NEW THING CAN YOU READ

Q: yeah it is if you remove it single weakness it will be kinda better MAYBE BC ITS MASTERY?!!?!??! WOW

R: instead of runnng away or trying to protect yourself you just dont need to be in that zone its like domain in SB just dont get in you still can fight back but not recommended

[tough saffron]

i critique abilities based on how dodgeable they sound with default

and how punishing it would be to get hit by said undodgeable abilities

[dapper herald]

🥀 than with it you can rate bounty hunter with -9 billion/10 with its small aimbot feature and being fast projectile

[tough saffron]

yes bounty hunter is ass

did i ever say i was a bounty main?

what does this prove

[dapper herald]

you will get mostly 30-40 dmg just like on avarage iwth normla one
for q just go back what stops you and jump
R just go back whats problem

[tough saffron]

R is absolutely massive

[dapper herald]

ok bud saying its bad just because you dont like projectiles is SO SO BIASED yk kinda get out bro

[quick folio]

ill find out just how big it is

one sec

[tough saffron]

And both E and Q are ranged so it encourages the stardust user to stay in their zone

[dapper herald]

BIASED yk kinda get out bro

[tough saffron]

aw server users when they receive genuine critisism:

[dapper herald]

BIASED yk kinda get out bro

[tough saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

[dapper herald]

btw your telling me over it while your blind so hard that you cant just see that you hate any ranged ability

[tough saffron]

i literally use brickbattler

THE ranged ability

[dapper herald]

i bet that if they add any other ranged attack or ability whole you gonna call its trash

[dapper herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874132916177874954/1293210309393252433/attachment-1.gif

i find it funny you kina said projectiles suck while saying on other hand projectiles are good

[tough saffron]

When did i say this

[dapper herald]

bounty mastery and stardust

[tough saffron]

I specified undodgeable abilities in particular

[jade zodiac]

stop arguing and admit that stardust doesnt deserve a buffed version of it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248754413703659630/1250715138403860490/mario.gif

[tough saffron]

Bounty mastery is one of the only abilities with auto aim

what makes you think i’m generalizing half the abilities in the game

[dapper herald]

the only* you mean?

[dapper herald]

[tough saffron]

So yes this is exactly what i was talking about

are we just not gonna go back to this

[stiff grail]

I don’t think stardust should get directed upgrade also make the e like unmastered e keep it same but at the end there be a huge star that come down from sky which make explosion making tiny star drop down doing small tick damage

[tough saffron]

what the fuck is bro typing

what on earth is bro typing

[dapper herald]

btw just to say for you and theres 78% i think you wont even read this your really biased on this all example of me , my opinion on pulse people call it really good and make it like best ability somekinda but i dont think so and im not baised with your system that you made that is not givng 100% reak result i have good reasons its a bit flat and its not really good for main combat sure it has good e ability but the q ability is really bad in my opinion to make it any good somehow you need to charge it for long time and use it and than probably die a few seconds later and now you..... "oh i cant dodge this is this is terrible ability wawa no idc what you say its terrible)

[tough saffron]

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[dapper herald]

when you typed long i just shuted hell up

[tough saffron]

Curse of the karma induced embed fail

[dapper herald]

that just shows how many poeple started disrespecting others

[quick folio]

pretty sure this is the diameter of the area from R (me standing in the middle of it)

[dapper herald]

make it 0.4x smaller than you get what i imagine now let me put changes that someone gave

k done

[dapper herald]

as proven you didnt read

that gives me ideal chace your might be just 11 or smth and just cares for yourself

[tough saffron]

I’m gonna continue giving you the privilege of talking to yourself

[dapper herald]

thanks i like talking to myself

[tough saffron]

clearly

[dapper herald]

unlike from you myself knows standards of being polite normal and act as not 7yrld which makes me feel better it also helped me cover the reason why people like you exist like no not a hate speech but my mind how world will act if people who only like themselves will act in future who will run for president i feel really bad about this all i might going insane but thats ok i always bump my head each day thinking on how do i keep seeing more people who are polite? i have do find a reseacrch on this brb

[tough saffron]

LMAO

wall of text

[quick folio]

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[dapper herald]

fun fact wall of text is like a book you can hide stuff that kids wont read because they wont read texts

[hasty apex]

Game was never balanced

[distant moss]

Here is a very big question
Does this version of stardust E have hitstun

[flint blaze]

"I own a Rifle spear for home defense because that's what the Authority intended. 5 Etrean bandits break into my house. "What in the name of the authority!?" I say as I grab my riflespear and gunpowder stash. I blow a golf ball sized hole in the first man, He's dead on the spot. Draw my Dragoon on the second man, Misses him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the Gunsmith's daughter. I have to resort to the Vollygun mounted at the top of the stairs, loaded with ether rounds. "Tally ho ruffians!". The hail of gunfire shreds two men in the assault. As the extra sound and shockwave sets of the island's alarms. I grab my rifle spear and charge the last terrified rapscallion. I watch, as he bleeds out as I wait for my fellows to arrive because triangular spear wounds are Impossible to stich up!

[distant moss]

you are not helping

[flint blaze]

no it does help

they know what a rifle spear does now

[distant moss]

This is a (probably unbalanced) stardust mastery suggestion

The hell am I gonna use a spear rifle for

[flint blaze]

for shooting and killing

duh

[distant moss]

Will it help me criticize this?

[flint blaze]

yes

[distant moss]

How

[flint blaze]

because a rifle spear is more op then stardust

[distant moss]

But you spread misinformation

[flint blaze]

this is not minsformation @ruby zinc can confirm

it not misinformation

[dapper herald]

not for small stars and normal doesn’t only big ones

[distant moss]

Which stars fall first

[dapper herald]

they fall randomly

to prevent huge combos

[distant moss]

dude

Can we not have randomness though

[dapper herald]

than alr let me think

[distant moss]

I meant which ones fall first

The big ones?

The small ones?

Normal ones?

[dapper herald]

small than normal ones than big ones

[distant moss]

Unmastered stars have hitstun which means only 2 of them hit, maybe 3 in rare cases, which results in 30 damage

Now mastered stars

The small stars do 24 total damage due to no hitstun, normal stars do 28 total damage due to no hitstun and only 1 big star can cnnect which results in 11 total damage

[dapper herald]

oh k got it

[distant moss]

That means mastered stars can do up to 63 damage

What the fuck

[dapper herald]

2 up to both small and normal one and 1 only in huge

[distant moss]

Do you understand what hitstun is?

[dapper herald]

2 only will be counted for Houston in small and normal stars and 1 only in big one

and not really

[dapper herald]

hitstun*

[distant moss]

Ok you know about "archer hitstun" right?

[dapper herald]

a bit

[distant moss]

When you spam arrows and your enemy magically can't hurt you

Certain attacks give both you and the enemy temporary iframes

[dapper herald]

alr

than usual ones ig

[distant moss]

In some cases it's detrimental like for example

Unmastered stardust stars can do only up to 30 damage because due to hitstun only 2 out of 5 do damage

Or even volley before hitstun got removed

[fringe owl]

DOMAIN MENTIONED...

[distant moss]

Now you understand?

[dapper herald]

small ones have 0.5 sec hit stun and normal ones have 0.9 sec and big ones have 1.7 sec

[dapper herald]

ye ths

[distant moss]

Ok not like that

[dapper herald]

bruh

[distant moss]

Let me rebalance this

[dapper herald]

well a bit brb

bc mowing and stuff yaknow

morning *

god I hate phone

[distant moss]

E rebalance:

• Stars will always fall in the same pattern (small > medium > big)
• small stars do 3 damage each and there's 4 of them, they do not have aoe and the delay between each star is 0.4 seconds. Their hitbox is 2×0.5×2 studs.
• medium stars do 5 damage each and there's 2 of them, they have a 2 stud radius aoe and the delay between each star is 0.6 seconds. They have a 3.5×1×3.5 hitbox
• the big star does 10 damage and there is only one of them, it has a 4 stud aoe and has a 1 second delay before appearing. It has a 5×1.5×5 hitbox and it travels slower than other stars

Criticize

[dapper herald]

alr I think all good