#Ability Wars Balancing Ultimate

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fallow meteor
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sb

sonic saddle
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Fetch me their souls

severe panther
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It’s specifically blacklisted to get one

cedar hound
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oh yeah

severe panther
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Nah a dos mastery would be

cedar hound
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WHY HAVE THEY NOT FIXED THAT

severe panther
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Technically a nerf

cedar hound
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maybe

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idk

severe panther
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You start weaker than a default, your phases take much longer to snowball

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But

sonic saddle
severe panther
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You get

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New even more flashy phases

sonic saddle
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More evil final phase

severe panther
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It’s really just a flex

next wyvern
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what if for dos mastery you obtained free exploits at 300

fallow meteor
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hacker phase

severe panther
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Dos mastery would max out at 600 souls

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Or some really big number

fallow meteor
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na 500 i have ocd

cedar hound
cedar hound
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that would be funny af

severe panther
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You’d get stuff like

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The dos meteors still for example

cedar hound
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its just a hitbox thats the size of your roblox arm floating infront of your right arm

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where you would punch

severe panther
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I’ve had theoretical phases past 300 before

cedar hound
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also i dont remember not being level 15+

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idk why i lost my levels

severe panther
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Let me just list the

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Theoretical dos mastery phases

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1-300 the same but likely phase 0-3 are increased phase 4/5 is decreased and phase 6 is increased

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Then as for 300 soul / gauntlet phase onwards

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Gauntlet phase lasts 300 - 400 souls

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At 400 souls you absorb the infinity stones into yourself and sprout a pair of wings similar to the 100 soul ones but physical instead of being a particle effect that gives you 5 jumps and you keep some infinity stone abilities (it’s made to be a nerf)
Also map gets a yellowish tint and you have a strong point light and flashy effects again

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This is the Ascending phase

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This lasts till 500 souls in which you get smitten by a beam of darkness turning your wings black and tinting the map a dark red as well as causing random red lightning bolts to strike around the map.

At this phase you keep your abilities from phase 8 but get new passives like an aura that damages players nearby you & gaining an ability that mind controls all players inside of your aura to kneel for you. (A edgier version of gauntlets souls but with more range)

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Basically it’s slightly stronger, edgier phase 8

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That lasts till 595 souls & is the calamity phase

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595 - 600 souls is the “meditation phase”
You lose all your power, and go back to the strength of like a 5 soul DoS. It’s a final challenge before you can truly awaken the map goes dark during this phase like 200 souls but, even more tinted

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Finally, at 600+ you reach the “Finality phase” you sprout both your wings at phase 8 and 9, the infinite stones also emerge and float above your head like a halo, you have a big eye above your head and regain the chains of 200 soul dos, though they no longer hold you back.

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You get the buffed versions of all 300 souls moves as well as the kill aura of phase 9 which is more potent, the lightning from phase 9 is back but now it’s randomly falling meteors. You get a new ability that’s like a insta charge railgun that instakills and has a much bigger size and less windup.

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And this phase lasts infinitely or until you hit 1000 souls where

sonic saddle
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Evil server killer

severe panther
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You can go to the dos alter and sacrifice your souls for an item called the ascension orb

severe panther
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Upon using the ascension orb, you reach phase 12 “The rapture phase”

sonic saddle
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From phase 9 to phase 12

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Hold on

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I misread it

severe panther
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No the one I mentioned is

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Phase 11

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Anyways so phase 12 is less of a phase and more of a

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Win condition

sonic saddle
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The evil ability

severe panther
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Upon use, you get a bunch of new absurdly big explosive abilities and other shit and have infinite iframes

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Said abilities are

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So strong the spawn itself breaks and players are forced into the arena and can’t even be in the lobby

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And even parts of the map will start to unanchor and break as you spam stuff which then after like 2 of 3 minutes or so

sonic saddle
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Comedy

severe panther
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A cutscene plays where, the dos starts to float up into the air

sonic saddle
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Imagine just joining a server as a new player and then you see that monstocity

severe panther
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And ascends to the heaven while dropping a absurdly large nuke on the map

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Which then

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Kicks everyone from the server

sonic saddle
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Evil server killer

severe panther
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Like I said

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Phase 12

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Isn’t a phase

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It’s a win condition

sonic saddle
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The lobby killer

severe panther
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So basically you have

sonic saddle
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Finally, no more lobby campers

severe panther
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A dos with Phases 1-7
Phase 8 - The Ascending phase (400 - 500 souls)
Phase 9 - The Calamity Phase (500 - 595 souls)
Phase 10 - The Mediation Phase (595 - 600 souls)
Phase 11 - The Finality Phase (600+ souls)
Phase 12 - The Rapture Phase (1000 souls + obtaining a ascension orb)

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And this is never happening but damn it’d be cool

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Especially cuz

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It’d be worse than “unmastered dos” anyways because

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The early phases would be way harder

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It’s less about being strong to use and more

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A proof of skill to put on a spectacle

fierce jungle
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Love how people glaze dos ❤️

severe panther
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Of course

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Yeah I don’t know how you can defend it rn really

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Trust me I like

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Dos when its

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In a relatively healthy state

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Just I don’t run it

fierce jungle
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“Dos was hard and needed a buff”

severe panther
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Oh yeah songs for that dos concept uhh

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All I know is what phase 9 would be

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Yeah it makes sense

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Not much else to add

subtle pike
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“You’re so shit at blood god”

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“hey guess what”

fierce jungle
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Cold

scenic willow
fierce jungle
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Ok

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also guys

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im looking for

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hive nerf ideas

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so if u have any

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lmk

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and rabbit

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rebalances

severe panther
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Hivemind is fine rn

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Like

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As long as dos is like how it is

fierce jungle
severe panther
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There’s a

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Big emphasis on rn

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Because like

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Dos:

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Hivemind is like a coughing baby rn

fierce jungle
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dos being insanely op doesnt make hive not good

severe panther
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I know.

fierce jungle
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dos is like a god and hive is like a baby god

severe panther
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But I wouldn’t worry about doing anything to it

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Until dos is dealt with

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Also the nerf did make it a little more tolerable

fierce jungle
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yea i noticed

severe panther
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But like

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Should apply the damage kb nerf to speed too

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Then I think hivemind should be generally ok mostly

fierce jungle
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it’s the inf combo problem

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u can get it way too easily

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it’s like dos with even less effort

severe panther
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Yeah

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The knockback nerf

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Is arguably a buff lol

fierce jungle
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hive needs a speed nerf or something

severe panther
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Just

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Give that same ramp up nerf the damage and knockback got

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And give it to speed

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Should be kinds fair

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Also I can see nerfing max hive level

cedar hound
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I absolutely hate hivemind

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Even after nerfs its still a issue

severe panther
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It’s still an issue but there’s a

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Dos shaped elephant in the room

subtle pike
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what exactly is the shape of dos

subtle pike
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ok besides that

raw vale
fierce jungle
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ok

raw vale
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Buff dos

gray bone
subtle pike
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🔥

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why does this person have me blocked again

gray bone
subtle pike
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i assume i just got unblocked

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i couldnt react to your messages before

cedar hound
pastel elm
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the dos buff is amazing

fierce jungle
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ok

fierce jungle
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Wow bro thats rude

cedar hound
fierce jungle
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ok

prisma yew
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like scripts or just bug abusing

cedar hound
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straight up

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btw i was in the portal world with someone else

prisma yew
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oh dang

fierce jungle
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is cyborgs incapability of using sit emote a bug or feature (problem also occurs with lava and jester but i assume its intentional for those)

fierce jungle
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ok

icy bane
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what about midas

fierce jungle
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dunno how to approach nerfing/buffing it

prisma yew
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at the very least increase the R cooldown

quartz viper
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R CD doesn’t need to be increased

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I feel like Midas would be HALF as good if they did that

subtle pike
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and end it with E for obscene kb

quartz viper
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Just pay attention and try to bait R

severe panther
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They can do it to void you

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Since the freeze is long enough

severe panther
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If you do

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You’re actively giving up damage

subtle pike
severe panther
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It’s basically got no realistic counter because they already out damage you

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Unless you’re running something like plasma

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So you need to like

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Give up on combos (damage)

subtle pike
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there is no endlag on the R and the cooldown is a little too low

severe panther
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To bait an attack out

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And they get another in like 15 seconds

subtle pike
severe panther
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R Should just

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Not have the counter

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Or if it does

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Make it like

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Crystal chip damage

subtle pike
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maybe it should just be iframes

severe panther
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It’d still break combos but

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At least not reverse them

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It’s just a case that

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It’s basically

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Pulse Q but

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On an ability that does 15+ damage punches

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And pulse only reverses combos at low charge

quartz viper
quartz viper
severe panther
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Yeah you can bait them out of it

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But it’s got like a 10s cooldown

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It’s barely even an opening

quartz viper
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Fair

severe panther
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And Midas still out damages you

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You get maybe 1 30 damage chain on

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(The Midas can just use Q and do even more damage in a combo.)

quartz viper
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You can move out of Q tho, it’s not much for punches as it is getting people off of you

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It’s better at defense since you can slow ppl down

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And ur immune to ragdoll

fierce jungle
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all of the attacks make you immune to ragdoll

fierce jungle
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ok

fierce jungle
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check this out

fierce jungle
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ok

fierce jungle
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Midorene

shell epoch
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I put like

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Am I good?

fierce jungle
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yes

tepid rain
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mid

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funny asl this is csm asa

thick ravine
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Remove dos

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It let's ppl get engineer

cedar hound
fierce jungle
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ok

fierce jungle
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ok

fierce jungle
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ok

shell epoch
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ok

fierce jungle
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ok

shell epoch
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ok

fierce jungle
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ok

shell epoch
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ok

fierce jungle
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no

hexed narwhal
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what

fierce jungle
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yeah

hexed narwhal
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ok

fierce jungle
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thx

fierce jungle
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ok

oblique bane
oblique bane