make freeze classic and plasma classic and cyborg classic (basicly the version before rework)

[sterile pendant]

it would be unfair for ppl who grind alot of punches ngl, and the only one shot ability rn is god punch which is crazy 💀 or just rework god punch aswell (making it semi-one shot aka has similiar power as 15 dos) and and certain abilities like god beam, etc

[deep frigate]

no

[glad burrow]

Bro u on crack

[deep frigate]

bionic sucks

[glad burrow]

Plasma is too skilless already

[sterile pendant]

then why don't rework gp?

if they gotta rework all oneshot

[glad burrow]

Gp is easy to counter range is gp weakness

[sterile pendant]

its not

[sterile pendant]

still tho

[deep frigate]

it would be unfair for the people who spent their robux

[sterile pendant]

what about ppl who grind and have like 250k+ punches?

those punches would be useless then?

[deep frigate]

what

[glad burrow]

I been harassed by this same plasma for 2 days straight bro think he him bc he killed me without using skill and just tapping a button

But yea gp should get a rework

[sterile pendant]

well if plasma is skill less

[deep frigate]

the only thing you can get at 250k punches is brick and it's a joke ability

[sterile pendant]

why not freeze one shot to counter god punch?

[glad burrow]

That wouldn’t make sense because freeze is meant to freeze not one shot

[sterile pendant]

its gonna be much more satisfying when fighting a one shot with a one shot rather than just use range ability

[glad burrow]

I do think gp e range need be bigger or huge tho

[sterile pendant]

so yeah if bringing back one shot is bad idea then i think rework gp is the best

[deft lotus]

2/3 of these are hell no

[glad burrow]

Then it ruin point of gp and buying it

[deft lotus]

you can infer which

[sterile pendant]

yk rework doesn't make it completely garbage right?

plasma are now gonna have more mobility and range BUT it loses one shot so uh

rework god punch might be fair

[glad burrow]

Freeze is okay how it is we don’t need no more but gp rework I can agree on

[sterile pendant]

anyway moving on to bionic

i feel like cyborg is much worse than bionic

[glad burrow]

Why u say that

[sterile pendant]

bro

if you know how to use bionic

it will be op asf

[glad burrow]

Yea bionic was op back then

[sterile pendant]

yk bionic can counter kill aura exploiter right?

[glad burrow]

Yes Ik maybe then can make a mastery similar to it like cyborg mastery kinda like bionic but not at same time

[sterile pendant]

oh

anyway

are these "rework" thing are like the "nerf" of an ability?

[glad burrow]

No it just changes it like idk how explain just better to use or whatever not good with explaining certain words or makes it different

[sterile pendant]

a

in my opinion it like making it more modern by adding more function to it but losing its main purpose ig

[glad burrow]

But I think god punch e is very bad easy to escape it they need to rework like it can just blast like quarter of the map or something

[sick tide]

why would u want the weaker version back

[ruby warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936087908631343105/1349226857710620772/meme-1.gif

[sterile pendant]

fr tho, gp ability is garbage the only thing that is good abt gp is its one shot

[sterile pendant]

wym? do you mean the abilities i mention above?

[ruby warren]

Old plasma deserves to rot

[sick tide]

new plasma*

[sterile pendant]

idk what about freeze

[ruby warren]

I shouldn't even have to explain why

[glad burrow]

Old version is stronger

[sterile pendant]

i find it satisfying to fight gp users back w/ oneshot

[ruby warren]

That one is slightly less bad, still awful don't bring it back

[sterile pendant]

if you want swift kill then yes

but for long range and tanky then new

[sick tide]

i dont know if getting freeze e spammed or one shotted is worse

[sterile pendant]

man

[ruby warren]

We get a bunch of children abusing it in every server

Which is not fun

[sterile pendant]

gp is kinda annoying

yk using defender mas to farm lv and some gp targetting you

[glad burrow]

Yea even tho it one shot it very easy to kill them u gotta get close nowadays days everyone use range abilities against a gp or just bait them to edge or worse

[ruby warren]

Cool then suggest something that people will like (you have to actually think)

[ruby warren]

Speaking of defender mas

[sterile pendant]

then how about rework gp?

[ruby warren]

Archer with damage orb also instakills

[sterile pendant]

yk gp ability is absolute garbage if not its one shot abil

[sterile pendant]

i don't think archer can survive gp that long tho

unless their aim is good asf

[ruby warren]

https://gyazo.com/396a3f62ada38377cbccf00f1ba830d2.gif

[glad burrow]

yes they can I see archer literally dog walk gp on their own they wasn’t no shots or anything it was mastery too

[ruby warren]

Holdon wrong gif

[glad burrow]

God dang

[ruby warren]

https://gyazo.com/aacda7041e452a116725278f9abc7840.gif

[sterile pendant]

you sure than you can keep up with ur aim that long? when a GP users targetting you 24/7

[ruby warren]

Can it?

[ruby warren]

Look at the new gif

[sterile pendant]

oh well

wait hold on

[sterile pendant]

ok fair enough

[ruby warren]

That's genuenly unfair btw

[sterile pendant]

how fast is the cd tho

[sterile pendant]

ikr?

[ruby warren]

I still want archer's volley nerfed

[sterile pendant]

downside of it is the fact it doesn't have m1s

[glad burrow]

I mean if they got mastery it a easy win well either way it win but it be harder if they don’t got mastery constantly shooting them I know them fingers gonna be sore

[ruby warren]

Your M1 can be charged and shot while ragdolled

[sterile pendant]

does 1st person cam can aim better than 3rd person cam anyways

[ruby warren]

Unmastered defender has the crusher tech that makes arrows knock back and ragdoll

[sterile pendant]

tru

anyway

what about bionic?

[glad burrow]

Oh yea forgot

[ruby warren]

No

Certified running ability

[sterile pendant]

if anyone gonna say "classic" mode then i think most people will not gonna be there

[sterile pendant]

yea but good ability to counter annoying ass kill aura exploiter

[glad burrow]

Ik magnet mastery for sure beats gp I am one them 😭

[sterile pendant]

tip of how 2 grind it plz

btw how good is magnet mas ( i've never used it so uh idk)

[glad burrow]

they be like you magnet spammer it be so funny pushing them off edge and pushing back everytime they get close

[deep frigate]

it's good

[glad burrow]

I say it very good especially if u fighting against someone who using only range and runs

[sterile pendant]

oh

[deep frigate]

it got a massive range shadow nerf few updates tho

[sterile pendant]

ok ima go sleep so uh vanish

[glad burrow]

yes I hated that it didn’t deserve that nerf it should of been plasma tbh

[deep frigate]

plasma got nerfed too many times already why do we need more

[sick tide]

alt farm

[glad burrow]

it still too strong ppl who use it skilless like nerf the e range

[glad burrow]

I been getting harassed by plasma 2 days Nkw it annoying they got High egos but be so trash only use plasma nothing else

[deep frigate]

then use plasma too fr

[glad burrow]

I only used skill abilities I don’t wanna be like them u get what tryna say

[edgy rose]

if you want a not p2w oneshot just use engi or alchemist

[terse spruce]

This sounds like "I want to have a one shot but am dirt poor for gp"

Besides the reworked freeze and plasma make it fight able and manageable

Also pre-rework bionic was so buns

[sterile pendant]

not like people gonna let you build with an engineer espically high destrutive car 💀 (but it might be ppl who let u build and it pretty rare)
and for alchemist, you gotta takes some times to brew enough strength potion to have similiar power as a one shot (temporary) yeah that requires mastery alchemist since unmastery, you will only be able to carry 2 strength potion. So yeah you can technically have no p2w "oneshot" but it kinda require alot to create one so

[edgy rose]

once the engi bug gets fixed theres a oneshot build you can make entirely midair

[sterile pendant]

wdym?

[edgy rose]

also alc literally needs like 2s to make potions

[edgy rose]

theres currently a bug with engi where you lose control of your build when building mid air

[ruby warren]

Also the bug is back

[edgy rose]

wh

what

[sterile pendant]

a?

[ruby warren]

The alch bug

Remember

[edgy rose]

you arent talking about

that

alc bug

[ruby warren]

You remember that one soap mastery footage right

[sterile pendant]

im dum- idk whr bug yall talkin abt-

[ruby warren]

Nothing

[edgy rose]

nothing

[sterile pendant]

k

[brave oasis]

@sterile pendant sorry for a late response but if you sit in a chair, add 3-4 balloons and place a tree and delete the chair in midair you can build in the air