#Nerf mech or delete it.

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sullen echo
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I played yesterday and we were trying to make a soccer field

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some guys decided to "have fun" and ruin ours with mech

lunar crow
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Like am not taking sides here but

sullen echo
lunar crow
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Anyone could've ruined ur soccer field

sullen echo
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we were in the sky pal we're minding our fucking business

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they were specifically going for us which was bs

lunar crow
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Yeah that is kinda bs

sullen echo
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we couldn't do anything about it

lunar crow
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I hate when people invade my skybases

pliant valve
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Idk why they

sullen echo
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I don't even play this game anymore

pliant valve
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Went up there though

sullen echo
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they remove everything I like

pliant valve
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They couldve

sullen echo
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then make the worst balancing ever

pliant valve
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Spammed their projectiles at the bottom

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And ragdolled everyone off

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sullen echo
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I quit

pliant valve
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mechs change is specifically like

sullen echo
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AW is shit

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it'll always be shit

pliant valve
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My near breaking point for the game

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It didnt help

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That update also had pretty bad balances too

sullen echo
pliant valve
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i stand by that being the worst update ability wars has ever gotten

sullen echo
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yeah

pliant valve
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Then they rework instead of buff

sullen echo
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they're js removing and nerfing

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nothing else

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and dont get me started on dice

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dice is on the level of tree lord atp

pliant valve
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Like all these could be buffed to some degree

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Oh I missed teleport

sullen echo
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omg

pliant valve
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And also throw a

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NOT YOU on

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Buff

sullen echo
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soap

pliant valve
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I think grapple is still decent its just got no techs

pliant valve
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ironic ik

sullen echo
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yeah

pliant valve
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I wanna see soap get a rework where

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You can control the soap using wasd where it

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Mirrors your movements

sullen echo
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yeah

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that would be useful

pliant valve
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But way more slippery

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It could be interesting.

sullen echo
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they've been listening to pretty much every complaint

pliant valve
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Probably not new player friendly

sullen echo
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im js worried they see the remove sit tech and remove flop suggestions and listen

pliant valve
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I

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Want flop techs removed tbh

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But not sit techs

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Flop techs lower the quality of fights, sit techs enhance it

sullen echo
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flop tech is pretty useful for me imo

pliant valve
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Clipping walls

sullen echo
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yes

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I love it

pliant valve
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Doesnt make the game more fun for everyone

sullen echo
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its fun

pliant valve
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It just

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encourages running

sullen echo
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I mean I use it against runners

pliant valve
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Don't get me wrong high jumps apply too here

sullen echo
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in general

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I js want them to add more stuff

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this removing bs is annoying

pliant valve
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Agreed

fossil steppe
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It's funny how I'm the only one who doesn't hate mech here because I main the biggest counter

pliant valve
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Well yeah

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Regardless if anyone ever says

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"X is easy just swap to X"

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You know they don't know what a balanced and unbalanced ability is.

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Its just blatantly ignoring that most matchups are bringing a knife to a gun fight

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mech has gotta be the best example of that.

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Its matchups are either really good or really bad, no inbetweens.

misty ravine
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i have litterally never seen the mech plauge happen, and plus even if the mech is annoying you just switch servers, not that hard

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and deleting it is a bit harsh

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nerfing it i can see with that cooldown

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but i have litterally never seen one mech that is good at the game, all of them just try and sacrifice themselves to puppet users and fail

pliant valve
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Also mechs, arent good they're just living nuissances mech has pretty much no skill cieling

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Its just spam E projectiles and stay around mid range

iron gyro
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revert to its old days

pliant valve
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that's the furthest you can push it tbh

iron gyro
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make mech unable to harm other mechs

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perfect

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make m1 a kick instead of a punch with a small cd

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misty ravine
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some people are just that annoying

misty ravine
pliant valve
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Mech should be at some in-between from where it was to how it is now

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But I think no matter what happens mech will stay as the single most toxic ability unless something happens to it atm.

misty ravine
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yea thats true

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i can see the unragdolling because its a giant hunk of metal, some normal persons fist aint pushing that thing over

pliant valve
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Idk the best fix for the

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hyper armor because

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hyper armor abilities just arent a thing that work really.

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If its like robot where they got a boosted jump they can hold space and spam rockets at whoever is attacking them with no punishment

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But then hyper armor on like stone is nearly worthless and can be worse for you sometimes

fossil steppe
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Remove mech's hyper armor at below 50% health

pliant valve
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I can see that somewhat

austere scarab
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maybe normal kb but no ragdol

pliant valve
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But it'd still be obnoxious

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I think if it had something like

austere scarab
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maybe mech should stay the same but

pliant valve
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You did the nerf on both Q and E (Q doesnt have as much speed to it and E has less ammo and reloads slowly)

austere scarab
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you can only be mech for a certain amount of time

pliant valve
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Then added that passive

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It'd be

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Underwhelming but

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good, I don't think I need mech in a state of being good

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Unless they did a good rework to it

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I had the mech mech rework btw..

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Better than what we got at least

fossil steppe
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Make mech less ugly

pliant valve
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Mech looks fine tbh

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Blocky but fine

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My rework idea was it getting an R ability which

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Explodes the mech which has a decent sized hitbox and decent damage to it but also ejects you from it where you can default fight until you use R again to rebuild the mech

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That’s the sum of it but there was more to it

night solstice
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Mec

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Mecj

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Megh

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Mech

plucky linden
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Wait you're friends with jacob???

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That sweaty you build yours player that hates the US users and new bug abused to kill them?

smoky moth
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and rephrase I can't tell what you're saying

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omg its Jacob

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ok i have 0 idea

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whats happening

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🤯

smoky moth
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relatable

pliant valve
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Relatable

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this js me

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plucky linden
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society if dos was removed

pliant valve
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Society if hivemind was nerfed

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I’m glad 100kish punch people usually go for DoS instead of Hivemind since they usually can’t ramp dos up

smoky moth
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society if I was given a million dollars

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smoky moth
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a million dollars and then I'd just bribe checken whenever I wanted an update

pliant valve
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Ok true

fossil steppe
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Society if alch mas was a reasonable ability

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I think he hates jacob

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He is sweaty

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He builds

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Hates US players

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And abuses new bugs

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To kill them

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That's all I could understand

smoky moth
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I have hyperthyroidism
I build shelters for the homeless
I hate the US government for ostracizing its people
I abuse mosquitos and the like

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the youtube response vid has dropped...

lofty quiver
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Just nerf the E damage

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I don't see alot of mechs and I can usually bully them with lemon

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🤯

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polar kettle
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And that person on the leaderboard that is friends with the original poster could be the same person

fossil steppe
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Is it 5M

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🤯

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# fossil steppe Is it 5M

At the time of their abuse, it was around 2 million. It's been a long time ago, so they probably got a few more punches

fossil steppe
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Show the exact ppacekent on the leaderboard

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smoky moth
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Wow

smoky moth
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I got banned for it already

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I forgive you though

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It's just a game

fossil steppe
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Anyways

smoky moth
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Idk why you're still harping on it

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smoky moth
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You've mentioned it like 7 times it was at least a year ago

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Lol

lofty quiver
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Krazy

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fossil steppe
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I thought it was a guy with 5M punches who got so mad over dying in a really embarassing way he asked his friend (500k punches) to help him target me

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abstract rune
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Stop dragging the Jacob bug abuse meme

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Pls

smoky moth
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So true

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lofty quiver
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I died a few minutes ago by driving my car off the map

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smoky moth
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I'd never bug abuse

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whatever gives you levels

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smoky moth
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Bug abusing is morally bankrupt

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Well maybe you know not to anymore, but I am absolutely sure you have bug abuse at least once in the past. Who cares though, that was a long time ago. And it's just a game

smoky moth
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No?

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smoky moth
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Must be mistaking me for someone else

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But I don't feel like it

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fossil steppe
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I want to see who did it

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smoky moth
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That was clearly MobyJacob

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Not yaranzoid

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smoky moth
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MobyJacob is a... vile human being

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🤯

smoky moth
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Even me, I do some pretty bad things

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That I regrets

smoky moth
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No

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I'm an angel

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wow this is scary 😨

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fossil steppe
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oh its just free nitro 🤯

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fossil steppe
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Ramen cat go

smoky moth
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pliant valve
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Yes keep talking here the mech nerf suggestion must stay relevant

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Remember when the Pharisees try to arrest Jesus because Jesus called himself god?

smoky moth
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I am literally the 2nd coming

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pliant valve
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Actually unrelated but

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What is

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One matchup where

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The mech and the ability fighting it

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Are in a pretty even matchup

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And don’t say mech

smoky moth
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Mech

fossil steppe
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Ok good question actually

smoky moth
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Plasma

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smoky moth
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So can plasma

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pliant valve
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Mech zones out plasma I feel like but it is probably

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A bit more even

fossil steppe
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Plasma has slightly ranged

pliant valve
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But

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Plasma has

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No vertical mobility

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Mech wins

smoky moth
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Grr

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Uuhh

pliant valve
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Also mech can high jump to just

smoky moth
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Pre-nerf jello

pliant valve
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Nope

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Mechs higher jump

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Probably lets it

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Clip its hitbox out to

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Fling itself out

smoky moth
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Errmmm

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Magnet mastery

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I can pull them in

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Deflect projectiles

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What else...

fossil steppe
pliant valve
fossil steppe
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It ahs plenty of vertical mobility

pliant valve
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Brick battler has

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Range

pliant valve
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The better matchup there

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And an extra item of your choice

smoky moth
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I have hate beyond hate for brickbattler

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pliant valve
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But

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70% of all abilities die

pliant valve
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I think Brick battler is

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Best answer tbh

fossil steppe
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2% are stalemate

pliant valve
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I think

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The rest is hard counter

pliant valve
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Plant mech and Bh mastery mech are

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Pretty balanced ones

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Uhh

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Festive mech would stalemate

fossil steppe
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UFO mas mech is stalemate

pliant valve
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Yep

fossil steppe
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Butter shouldn't even be included

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Stalemate machine

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wb SOL archer with pre-hitstun removal volley

pliant valve
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But yeah you see why it’s just unbalanced

pliant valve
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Just not as free as a matchup as it is now

fossil steppe
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the military grade paper shredder jumpscare

pliant valve
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I think my

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mech users when a single archer is in the server:

pliant valve
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Least favorite part about mech is

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It gives me validation to play as archer

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No thank you

fossil steppe
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this sounds vile

versed hedge
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hear me out

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hear me out

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delete ability wars

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problem solved

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🔥

fossil steppe
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I also hate how it FORCES you to run archer

pliant valve
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Oh you know

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I bet stardust is

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A balanced matchup

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Especially if the stardust can high jump

fossil steppe
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Mech's big hitbox helps with E

pliant valve
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Q is useless but E can hit easier

versed hedge
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guys 1 or 2

fossil steppe
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R gives higher jumping and heals a bit

pliant valve
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And R will let you keep up

fossil steppe
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And Q is worthless

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Anyways

pliant valve
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I think

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That’s the most balanced matchup

fossil steppe
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If an ability FORCES you to run ARCHER then it needs an emergency nerf

pliant valve
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True

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But also

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pliant valve
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Archer needs an emergency nerf rn

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Unless you use arrow storm

smoky moth
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Mech and pulse bug

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Who wins

pliant valve
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Pulse bug

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You can check out my Archer mastery rebalance suggestion if you want

pliant valve
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Volley without hitstun is

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WAY too strong

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pliant valve
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I want

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It can do 100 damage total

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For reference

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Am I allowed to send my suggestion like?

pliant valve
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Volley to get an accuracy buff

fossil steppe
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Than's 90 more damage than a single punch

pliant valve
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But less arrows

fossil steppe
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Holy moly

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That's not need to happen. The upgrade literally says the arrows are supposed to be weaker

fossil steppe
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But they're full strength

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fossil steppe
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But usually max charged arrows deal around

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Why would you use damage or without, wanted to speed or be better so you can run away from people chasing you?

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25 damage

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Bro stupid autocorrect

fossil steppe
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Why stall when you can just instakill

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pliant valve
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Thing is

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You won't always land*

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pliant valve
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Even if you only hit some arrows on volley

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They’re like

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Two - Three arrows from death

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Why is the speech to text so inaccurate when I talk faster than once every 5 seconds

pliant valve
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Especially if you get max crossbow

fossil steppe
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Archer even without volley does an extremely vile amount of damage

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Unparalleled dps

pliant valve
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I still think volley + SoL

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Has extreme potential rn

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pliant valve
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If you have good enough aim

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That's SOL

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2-3 volley arrows into a SoL arrow

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Is death

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fossil steppe
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So you are never hitting anything

pliant valve
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Well

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Rn crossbow > lightstorm

pliant valve
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Yeah ngl

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Without hitstun

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Light storm is now the worst path

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pliant valve
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Correct

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pliant valve
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No volley with how busted volley is rn

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Yeah it’s the worst

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I wanna see a

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Really good archer main

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Pick up SoL

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I liked volley more than lightstorm before the update anyway

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# pliant valve Correct

I thought speed of light was the worst. At least aerostorm can do damage that isn't near impossible to land

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I mean

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And volley rn is just

pliant valve
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SoL is just

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REALLY hard to run

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Can’t ignore the fact

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fossil steppe
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Volley is an S tier ability on the list of individual active abilities

pliant valve
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Under perfect circumstances a max SoL with damage orb and a headshot

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pliant valve
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Does 90 damage

placid minnow
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@opal badge are you the guy who was allegedly killed by the pulse bug awhile ago?

night solstice
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that guy sucks

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placid minnow
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yes

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me becoming a grandparent to 4 children with 6 grandchildren before i can fire a SoL shot

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night solstice
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but he hates US player

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night solstice
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and bug abuse

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night solstice
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🍵

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pliant valve
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I’m aware

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the solution to fix aw is to gut railgun and alchemist

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# pliant valve Does 90 damage

Okay but how often are you under perfect circumstances with speed of lights with a damaged orb and you land a headshots

night solstice
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Maybe I can do high damage a single time very rarely, but every other time it would do nothing

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Why do dos mains beef with railgun so much

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pliant valve
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It can't be that bad

night solstice
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or long

placid minnow
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especially if you trap yourself in a cave with army mastery

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night solstice
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like really unfair

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Other than that

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I see no issue

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projectile one shot

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Half charges would get the job done to two shot still

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night solstice
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And you're not even guaranteed to land the error all the time, do things like lag and aim

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Like I wonder if sometimes the era doesn't hit because it's moving so fast and your opponent's pain can't catch up

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but it's still a real threat

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Still wondering HOW this wasn't playtested

night solstice
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night solstice
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its the worst thing ever

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in history

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It's not that hard to hear the railgun charging up for an attack

night solstice
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not when theyre in the corner of the map

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placid minnow
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sure but that railgun is most likely not the only threat

night solstice
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placid minnow
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you usually have a whole server after you so eventually that railgun can get you

night solstice
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I'm already imagining a firing squad that consists of like 4 archers

night solstice
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and its not like you know which corner theyre in always

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placid minnow
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time users, card users, etc.. are all predictable and, if you pay attention, won't be a threat

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doesnt really matter if you hear it or not

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placid minnow
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anyways the main annoyance with dos is the fact it's been bugged for a month

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the wind up is like 2 seconds

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Plenty

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I love ability wars

placid minnow
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i wonder if checken just doesn't know how to fix it and that's why it's still bugged

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or if he even knows about it

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Like R15

placid minnow
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the eye ability being bugged is pretty big and should've been patched as soon as he could have

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sure not game breaking but still a big issue

night solstice
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is alchemist coolbug still not fixed

placid minnow
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night solstice
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At least don't use it until the update releases and they fix the bug

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i think it's fair to complain about an ability not working when it's been a month

night solstice
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Remove dos

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As a DOS mean, that is a 10 out of 10 suggestion

night solstice
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buff dos

pliant valve
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No, no, no, no, no no no no no no

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Railgun

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Tbh I’d rather get targetted by 4 archers than 4 mechs

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At least I can run alchemist or something

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And try to brute force my way through

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4 mechs shooting at you

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Once one ragdolls

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You’re screwed

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Pro tip:

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Be as unpredictable as possible when fighting archer

night solstice
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Guys what would Archer with hitbox extender be like

pliant valve
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Nothing unless

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You made the arrows bigger somehow

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pliant valve
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I don’t think it’d work

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I’m not sure though

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But an exploiter would never

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Any code that is client-sided can be exploited

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I'm going to go now bye

pliant valve
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Well

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That takes aiming

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Exploiters need

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As little effort as possible to put in

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yeah, this post has a point

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i personally haven't seen many mechs, but for every mech I do see it's a damn curse

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fighting those things make the tree lord look like a twig in comparison istg they are ANNOYING

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Well yeah the

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Whole set feels deliberately made to be

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As obnoxious and unfair as possible to anyone against them

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(Besides to a handful of select abilities)

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I know how to play any ability without mech users harassing you

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Hire an anti air gun

pliant valve
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So an archer

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Yes

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Correct

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Considering how much certain people dislike mech I should start a business where I kill any mech users in sight for 5 Starscape credits per each keth hour (aka 1.6 days)

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Misinput

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Also is it me or did nobody mind mech until I

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Started calling it out

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Or did the ability just

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Have to sink in long enough for people to realize how bs it is

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When people started using it alot due to the mastery

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They realized how annoying it is

pliant valve
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Nah that’s like blood god

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People liked blood god when the rework first dropped mostly

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Corrupt banana blood god

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Was peak tho

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evilnator

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Hey wait a second

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Corrupted banana with archer to ragdoll

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Then volley

pliant valve
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‘Nobody will stop me in my blood god realm!’

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The nefarious banana:

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pliant valve
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If

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The top of a mech counts as a head

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Either no path or crossbow

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Because of the insane speed of the arrows, you could be really far out of the map with an engineer build.

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pliant valve
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Or

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Shot and volley

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military grade shredder and then 2 shots with other paths

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Volleys always don't go as far

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Still though, give my boy speed of light past and recognition

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It's easily the coolest path

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It actually looks cool

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# fossil steppe It actually looks cool

seriously, imagine being hit out of nowhere with an arrow forged from pure light going at 299,792,458 m/s, and you lose 9/10 of your maximum health instantly

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Oh and not to mention the exploding cosmetic particles

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pliant valve
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I think

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SoL could be amazing but

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The aim you need for it

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Would make it so hard

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And give it a cool gimmick besides fast

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My idea was let it pass through terrain at the cost of a slight speed decrease due to going at the literal speed of light

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And also give it area of a fact attacks at Max charge

pliant valve
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Honestly

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Yeah I was gonna say

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AoE on SoL

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Would be great

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The effect already explodes

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Though after volley gets nerfed

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I kinda wanna see

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Crossbow and SoL get buffs

night solstice
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Ma

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Well I think

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Crossbow should get a a different path

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Well

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It’d stay a crossbow but

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I’d make its second upgrade into like a

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Double shot

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Damage of the arrows gets slightly reduced but you get two per shot with your crossbow

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SoL I’d give a aoe explosion around where it hits

north canopy
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some crossbows have scopes

pliant valve
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With half the damage of the connected SoL shot

north canopy
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give it a scope and let it be a sniper with an ability or smth

fossil steppe
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Holy flip that could be huge

pliant valve
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Nah

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If you’re making that far

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You shouldn’t be getting aim assist

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Also

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I’d make

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SoL arrows ragdoll if they hit

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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True

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I think ragdoll on SoL would be enough to make it viable though

mossy cairn
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Starscape tear into my Pulse mastery idea please :3

pliant valve
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You can hit people away to charge up another shot

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Im a pulse main who tears abilities apart anyways

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That sounds like my job

mossy cairn
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oh yeah forgot no ads

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sorrwy

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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Well was a pulse main

fossil steppe
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You can take that one

pliant valve
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I’ve been

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Running barrier again

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It’s not that good but it’s fun

fossil steppe
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I am not the OP so don't ask me for permission

pliant valve
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Like with barrier its got a

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Pretty reliable and fun 3 hit combo you can do for like 50 damage

rose halo
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i don't like defensive abilities that much tbh
good offense = good defense, but it's not necessarily the other way round

pliant valve
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And using barrier E to gimmick people into corners, combo break or evade big attacks

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Is fun too

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I want E to be cancelable and create an active hitbox though it’d be peak

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Would have some amazing variance to the move where

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You can use it as a weak combo extender in exchange of losing your defense pretty much

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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Barrier can be

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Used pretty offensively too

rose halo
pliant valve
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Most people use it solely for defense though

rose halo
pliant valve
rose halo
pliant valve
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That’s why you

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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It synergizes with M1

fossil steppe
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Return has literally no offense

pliant valve
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You can

fossil steppe
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I mean if you like it then sure

pliant valve
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Punch people into Q

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And then into another punch

fossil steppe
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But it is NOT as good as some people say it is

rose halo
pliant valve
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For pretty easy 50 damage

fossil steppe
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Return is pretty overrated imo

pliant valve
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I was talking about barrier

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Not return

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Return is overpowered if you only count getting an actual kill as a win

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But when it comes to

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Anything else no

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You can’t hold S out of getting hit into barrier its hits you basically the moment you’re out of the ragdoll

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But don’t get me wrong barrier isn’t that good at best it’s like low B tier

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I deserves more justice

lofty quiver
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I don't like return

fossil steppe
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If a defensive ability fights another defensive ability it most likely just becomes a stalemate

pliant valve
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Barrier solos other defensive abilities

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Ok not deflect

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Probsbly not paladin either

plucky linden
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lowkey i’d fuck w a dva mechanic

polar kettle
lofty quiver
blazing prism
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hey uh

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so i just made a mech mastery post which is what i think to be a balanced mastery, but at this point its like mech rn is actually just really strong so like

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idk man

pulsar cave
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The issue with mech is that its entire playstyle is just running around and spamming low damage attacks
Like it isn’t fun to use nor to fight against

lofty quiver
pulsar cave
lofty quiver
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3 × the healing on the R and it has 100% uptime for 110 seconds

pliant valve
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Mech only has extremely free and extremely bad matchups

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There are barely any matchups where

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Both the player AND the mech are enjoying themselves.

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Its like the definition of an unhealthy ability in that regard

pulsar cave
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Mech’s kit basically means that neither you nor your opponent are actually making a dent
Mech is too defensively built and too mobile to really die in a 1v1
And it’s dps is far too low to put a dent in someone else’s hp

pliant valve
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Yeah that

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is part of it too though

lofty quiver
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Seat

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Counters everything

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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The extremely defensive ones will like how are returns supposed to kill eachother

lofty quiver
pliant valve
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Mech is like

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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Defensive in all the worst ways

lofty quiver
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Was worse

pliant valve
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Thinking of defensive abilities, peak new array mastery suggestion dropped

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For barrier,

fossil steppe
pliant valve
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Yep

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Makes sense.

fossil steppe
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Yeah seems very balanced

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It's kinda like lil X-treme

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He does damage and is very tanky

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AND has range

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He had like no drawbacks

lofty quiver
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I only fought a mech 1 time

pliant valve
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Also, I wrote half of the suggestion I made in character to a tech CEO.

lofty quiver
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Mech users went extinct

pliant valve
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That's how you know its peak

pliant valve
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tbh its probably why this even has dislikes

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If I sent a mech user to every person who disliked server to hunt them down rn

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They'd change their mind real quick unless they're an archer main then they'd love me

lofty quiver
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They seam annoying but since they can't really kill you i just ignore them

pliant valve
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If one is targetting you down

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And just following you at mid range.

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They can very easily get you into a missile stunlock

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And deal a huge chunk of damage

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Which is usually enough that one can get a punch or two off

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And kill you

lofty quiver
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Wait I just thought of something

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Engineer gives you fruits and the fruits heal you in this game I was thinking of being targeted and that always makes me think of engineer

pliant valve
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Mechs offense isn’t perfect howevever

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To say it’s bad is kind of just wrong

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It’s like

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I’d say maybe average to below average but it’s never consistent either

lofty quiver
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It's just worse festive in my opinion

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Worse and more annoying

pliant valve
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Eh

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I see what you mean somewhat but

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They’re different enough if you ask me

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Festive snowballs are pretty easy to avoid, the sleigh has a longer cd & the fact mech has hyper armor means you can’t chain them like you still can on a festive

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Only advantage festive gets is

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Way better melee

winter hare
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why does this chain have more comments than general chat has messages sent per day ._.

pliant valve
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Good question

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Anyways uhh I think people don’t try / fail to realize too that

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On classic and and probably desert too the increased jump height + sit tech high jumps

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Let’s mech pretty much use their normal jump to get onto most things

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Including onto both classic hills

winter hare
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How to fix mech: make it an actually unique ability that isn't a combination of cyborg and festive

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what the overhaul did: rocket spam brrr

pliant valve
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Some crazy mobility only BH mastery keeps up to

winter hare
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ye

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also its so buggy

pliant valve
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But like

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BH mastery

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Can’t jump onto trees

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So

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Mech has the advantage there regardless

winter hare
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so its: bounty hunter mastery movement, cyborg level of spam, air mobility of festive, knock back of paladin shield, and health of watermelon armor... and it STILL manages to be bad

pliant valve
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For the most part, pretty much

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But also I don't know how people find it bad besides getting a single bad matchup

lofty quiver
hidden ore
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Anyway so what’s going on here

winter hare
hidden ore
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Been watching for about a minute and don’t feel like reading more for context

lofty quiver
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Idk I just came back after 15 minutes

hidden ore
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I’ll consider it

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After I read jt

lofty quiver
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You can't promote yk

winter hare
lofty quiver
winter hare
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jus see people in general 24/7 spam their suggestion

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._.

pliant valve
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Anyways, this is what I mean by mechs mobility if you pair it with sit high jumping. Its crazy stuff

winter hare
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ye

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and you hit it once, it just flies away

pliant valve
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Not even classic where mech benefits the most from that

winter hare
pliant valve
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That is with sit tech

abstract rune
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Ok

lofty quiver
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I dont know any sit tech tbh

pliant valve
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sit tech is my oxygen

lofty quiver
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Idk I just use wave emote

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And jevil

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Also backflip

pliant valve
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Fortunately for desert.

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This part of the map is too high for mech

winter hare
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Q ability can get on it and only have like a 4 second cd

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._.

pliant valve
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If it wasnt that's another specific interaction with mechs increased jump height that makes it way too good in certain scenarios

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Though you can high jump this

image.png
lofty quiver
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I find plant users more annoying then mech

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Idk mech is just there for me

pliant valve
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What do you main?

lofty quiver
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Plants are the master of running

pliant valve
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I mean I do agree plant is also annoying but

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They don't got the (good) range option like mech so I cant tolerate it

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Also

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Plant cant get to the lobby roof

winter hare
lofty quiver
pliant valve
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If a mech gets low and wants to not die they can just, use the mushroom and fly to the roof

pliant valve
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Tbh BH and plant should lose the abiltiy to do that

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But ik they wont because of

winter hare
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nah its tech for bh

pliant valve
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the cheeseburger

winter hare
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its just weird for plant

lofty quiver
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And is harder to pull off

pliant valve
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I usually just

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Jump off to hit them into the void

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Its funny

winter hare
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fr

lofty quiver
winter hare
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then they say "bro had to cide himself to kill me"

lofty quiver
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Tho sometimes I miss😭

winter hare
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💔

pliant valve
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I can hit it consistently

lofty quiver
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So how does sit te h work exactly

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Doesn't seem very useful

winter hare
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it like boosts ur jump height by 30%

lofty quiver
winter hare
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ye u can jump onto classic roof n stuff

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or get on the cave mountain without going up the steps

lofty quiver
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Doesn't seem as bad as flop "tech"

winter hare
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flop "tech" is VERY situational lol

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i think best ive ever used it for was to glitch into house and stop an engi farm

lofty quiver
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My using engineer 😭

rose halo
lofty quiver
winter hare
rose halo
winter hare
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unless you position yourself in the middle of the room, shift-locking horizontally

rose halo
polar kettle
pliant valve
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Correct

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I’d argue mech is

silent raptor
smoky moth
lofty quiver
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Because

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I

smoky moth
lofty quiver
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AM STEVE

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Wait why do I have image perms here

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Ye it worked

weary cloak
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I just saw this

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and this is untrue

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spring dps is massive

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it eats mech

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void killing is very unnecessary with spring

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you can kill just as well with just raw damage

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no it does not

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no it's a loss for mech

fossil steppe
weary cloak
fossil steppe
weary cloak
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yes spring has good dps

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what do you expect from a low cd ability

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it just doesn't have good burst damage

fossil steppe
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For it to NOT have both unparalleled mobility and good dps

weary cloak
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no but like did you actually believe it was that way before

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or did you just wish it was that way

fossil steppe
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And yes I do wish it wasn't just UNPALALLELED movement

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You look away once and then a spring user goes halfway across the map right at you

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Like foxy from fnaf 2

weary cloak
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that is the fun part

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the spring jumpscare

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never attack people right next to you

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always go to the furthest person from you

fossil steppe
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And you go way further

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And you have unlimited combo extenders basically

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And you have unparalleled mobility

weary cloak
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arrow

fossil steppe
polar kettle
pliant valve
#

Yeah archer is basically an unavoidable death for mech

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Especially once it gets volley

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Doesn’t make mech balanced though

polar kettle
#

rock paper scissors problem

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That’s kinda brought up with time as well

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Anything that doesn’t have mobility just dies

pliant valve
#

Ehh

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Time it’s far less serious as long as

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You see them ahead of time

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You’re usually good

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Just yeah you can’t

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Just hit yourself up or away quickly so it’s not as free

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Unlike mech where if you have a bad matchup as 80% of abilities

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There’s pretty much nothing you can do

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You either are in a very long deadlock or die

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And honestly I don’t mind time at all it’s usually a pushover to handle

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Helps there’s the funniest way to ‘kill’ a time

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Basically, drop them a pizza and immediately bait them into rewinding

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So they get kicked to the BB realm

polar kettle
#

i actually never thought of that

pliant valve
#

Yeah it’s like

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The most insulting way to kill a time user

fossil steppe
#

Is that even remotely embarassing

pliant valve
#

Yeah true

fossil steppe
#

Making archer punch is literally like the mech + time thing

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So I can punch

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Then volley

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Yeah archer might need some bug fixing

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(Time too)

dry vault
#

spring beat mech

gleaming sparrow
#

Bro, people would use it, and legit get targeted repeatedly when using it.

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Everytime I've ever used it, or saw anyone use it, they instantly get thrown off the map, or just targeted by half the server, even if they aren't attacking people.

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It's a bigger target.

pliant valve
#

Do you think it getting targetted is logical reason for the state it’s in right now or something?

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It’s almost like people target mechs for being living nuisances.

gleaming sparrow
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It's almost like everyone targets it because of how big of a target it can be. Because of how huge it is overall.

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The ability is perfectly fine. I don't see you bitching about other abilities that do more than a normal amount of dmg do we?

gleaming sparrow
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It comes with it's negative and positive affects.

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I would say that's equal enough.

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I'm guessing your silence means I'm correct about something, hm?

fossil steppe
gleaming sparrow
pliant valve
#

Army!?

fossil steppe
#

Army

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Are you serious

gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
#

Army

pliant valve
#

Of ALL the abilities to go for

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Army?

fossil steppe
gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
#

The minions are more fragile than that one brickbattler main's ego

pliant valve
#

Yeah army has high damage but you just, avoid and outlive an attack from the npcs then just smack with long range AoE

night solstice
fossil steppe
#

Also

pliant valve
#

And the user can do nothing

gleaming sparrow
night solstice
#

gut railgun

fossil steppe
#

Takes time to charge railgun

pliant valve
#

Also an army user can’t constantly stay mid range away from me, outspeed me horizontally and vertically and spam an endless flux of rockets to annoy me.

fossil steppe
#

Do nerf the charge gain from NPCs tho

gleaming sparrow
night solstice
pliant valve
#

While being virtually impossible to kill unless they’re getting attacked by multiple people or you are one of the abilities that shut down mech

fossil steppe
upper ivy
#

I think we should buff mech

gleaming sparrow
#

Does mech also not have negatives? All things do.

pliant valve
#

In general mech has pretty much 0 matchups where either the mech or attacker has an equal chance.

#

It’s either

gleaming sparrow
night solstice
fossil steppe
pliant valve
#

Mech gets hard countered or user can’t do anything on mech

gleaming sparrow
#

Even if they try to fly away, just hit them.

pliant valve
#

You’ve

fossil steppe
#

They have ragdoll imminity

gleaming sparrow
pliant valve
#

Never seen the mobility mechs have with sit high jumping clearly.

gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
#

Are you sure that you even fought a mech user

pliant valve
#

Mech doesn’t even need Q to get away

fossil steppe
gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
gleaming sparrow
#

Alright, I can agree with that one 🥲

fossil steppe
#

Get the fuck outta here

gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
pliant valve
#

Just cancel the Q mfs when mech jumps like this:

gleaming sparrow
fossil steppe
#

NEW CONTENT

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OVERHAULED MECH

night solstice
#

can we gut grapple

gleaming sparrow
#

What was changed?

pliant valve
#

Once grapple has that bug fixed

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It will