Small buff to compensate for Teleports lack of telepunch

[vagrant helm]

And skipped to the end

[pseudo verge]

I can't believe they were crying about having their ability overnerfed

[final sigil]

People forgets the point where blizzard in bottle also slows the targets cooldowns.

[vagrant helm]

Without knowing the context

[vagrant helm]

it did what now

[frosty patio]

Krazy

[cobalt iron]

nah

[final sigil]

it's already since it's first nerf

[cobalt iron]

festive users are W

[vagrant helm]

A deserved overnerf

[cobalt iron]

give u the christmas vibe

[pseudo verge]

Festive users when they only get: Free speed boost, damage boost, jump power boost, double jump, mini timestops, heals, strong ranged weapon, roof access / anti void option.

https://tenor.com/view/baby-gif-26024087

[cobalt iron]

who is festive users💀💀💀

i dont even see anyone maining it

i only see it being used for fun or boredoom

[final sigil]

actually, they can't sleigh themselves out of the cliff anymore if they were knocked by normal punches

[pseudo verge]

They still exist but I am referring to specifically old festive mains

[cobalt iron]

nice sister btw

mb

thats u

lol

[frosty patio]

True

[cobalt iron]

it was used cuz it was good

[final sigil]

The whole point of playing festive in dealing in actual damages to win a battle is getting close, And you could imagine how hard it is to just fights some 20k abilities

People just don't understands the true suffers and efforts we actually spends in fights

[cobalt iron]

nope if u got aim with

the christmas sword

[cobalt iron]

are you british?

just asking

[frosty patio]

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM

[pseudo verge]

Festive users play so passively and evasively despite having a kit that is objectively great offensively.

Its so weird.

[cobalt iron]

no

my main is rabbit

[pseudo verge]

Ig they don't wanna get their progress on presents reset

[final sigil]

It's mostly dodgable, Not really effective cause most of the maps had a pretty heights difference gaps on mountians

[cobalt iron]

even if i dont got it

i want it

[pseudo verge]

Festive isnt even that good with how most people play it, its just unkillable with most abilities.

[final sigil]

That's the point, Playing passively in that kind of stat that you also have to grinds with is pretty risky

[frosty patio]

Fair the kb is very funny plus anti iframes

[cobalt iron]

i used it before and i hitted most of the time

[pseudo verge]

i rarely see festive users playing aggressively.

[cobalt iron]

i dont have it bro sadly

i wasnt able to play when it was

[frosty patio]

oof I do

[cobalt iron]

AND THEY DIDNT RELEASED DUE TO THE MAP UPDATE SECOND TIME

dono me ur ability

[pseudo verge]

I don't even know what the vision on how festive is supposed to be played when the kit was made tbh

[frosty patio]

They did that's when I got it

[final sigil]

yeah because people are kind of sucks honestly, But logically when you're fighting a cosmos or freeze you'd knows how badly the situations would go for festive

[cobalt iron]

ill give u god punch

only if they addded trading

lol

[cobalt iron]

not rlly

pretty easy to win

[pseudo verge]

Cosmos, yeah festive kinda doesnt have much for them freeze though? Not really.

[cobalt iron]

not like they have 0 cooldown

[frosty patio]

Was about to say that's when freeze still 1 shots

[cobalt iron]

cosmos is not this op

u can get them

[pseudo verge]

Cosmos Mastery is very good if you're running the wrong ability against them

[final sigil]

it's not even that simple when the christmas tree stars speed aren't that fast but comparing to a large projectiles you kind of have to spends more alot efforts than how freeze and cosmos users does

[pseudo verge]

Hey look, I can mention teleport: Yeah teleport is good against cosmos (crazy!)

[cobalt iron]

we dgaf abt teleport

teleport should rot

[pseudo verge]

If you're trying to fight a cosmos mastery without an ability with Iframes or mobility.

You're just screwed.

[final sigil]

basically in fighting one on one to death festive is cerified a skill required ability

[cobalt iron]

nah bro when i see cosmos users they are pretty bad

[pseudo verge]

Actually does festives sleigh go off cd quick enough?

[cobalt iron]

and miss q alot

and no one even mains cosmos

[pseudo verge]

Cosmos mastery's are awful at the game most of the time but its still a very good ability.

The hitbox on E is ridiculous and pretty much unavoidable if you're too close.

Unless you got mobility or something

[final sigil]

The battle mostly depends on damages instead of cliff battle, Festive's sleigh also works slower lately making just a normal punches be able to normally punch them off

the sleigh won't works from it anymore

[pseudo verge]

Well I meant specifically for fighting a cosmos mastery

Also ok yeah

[final sigil]

Yeah one or two hit from a blast might cooks you

[pseudo verge]

Festive doesnt work on cosmos mastery you don't get the sleigh quick enough

[final sigil]

No, cosmos's blasts ragroll times are just too long

[frosty patio]

Real

[final sigil]

like seriously fucking long even for a small orbs

[pseudo verge]

Max cosmos hits have

Way too much kb for the aoe of them

They got comparable kb to max pulse orbs which take much more time to get up and arent as consistent to aim

[frosty patio]

Guys we can just agree that bh mas would win

[pseudo verge]

Oh and doe comparable too

Yes BH mastery is gonna be the new meta

After teleport is gone tbh

[final sigil]

bounty hunter is annoying af

[pseudo verge]

At least in maps with voids

Ive already seen a spike of BH mastery users

in high punch servers

[frosty patio]

Very annoying you might randomly get sniped

[pseudo verge]

Ive seen like 5 already

Also I can see people starting to run mage its

Forgotten about but

[final sigil]

they climbs should lasts for just a minutes, Not unlimited

[pseudo verge]

Holy shit its strong

[frosty patio]

It's actually pretty good with that healing spell

[frosty patio]

Yea it's really funi

[pseudo verge]

Not even the healing spell even without it people just slept on it

Spam uncharged blazes on people its

hard to avoid and does 75 damage if you connect your whole mana bar of them

[frosty patio]

Tho I die every time I try to ledge camp with it

[pseudo verge]

Only thing holding mage back is

The book, it extends your hurtbox by 2 studs

Which is abusable

[final sigil]

bounty hunter only has one freaking problem that should be fixs

[frosty patio]

Make the words on the R ability easier to see

[pseudo verge]

I can also see

a spike of quantums

[frosty patio]

Quantum does to much damage with the m1

[pseudo verge]

Exactly

Maybe not though, quantum is

kinda too boring

[frosty patio]

Quantum realm is super under welming

To easy to survive

[final sigil]

2 hits on my freaking face feels like getting hit by a mastery cosmos blast

[frosty patio]

It gives what 40% increase damage

Chat died

[mint kelp]

I mean it’s 25 punches so it needs to be easy to use, it might need skill right now but a feller with 25 punches won’t be able to enjoy it, imo this suggestion basically fixes most problems which is the stupid ragdoll spam of stinky sweaty teleport mains

[pseudo verge]

Well it deals 20 damage each

[frosty patio]

What do you main

[mint kelp]

I did NOT like tele punching as it was very annoying

[mint kelp]

Jester

[frosty patio]

Mmmmmmmm

[mint kelp]

Wow

Same as Shirou swords????

[pseudo verge]

Yes

Basically quantum 6 taps you

And one chain is enough to get you to half hp

[mint kelp]

I think just decreasing the teleport range by a bit should do

I don’t like teleport or tele punching

But it does seem a bit unfair

lowk like how vessel from jjs keeps getting nerfed for no apparent reason

[magic ember]

It crazy that people want a beginning ability to be so strong

[mint kelp]

I mean I don’t think a price determines how good an ability is

Soda is pretty reliable and it’s 0 punches

[magic ember]

But at the end of a day it just a speed boost and a dash like ability

[pseudo verge]

Soda is 50 now

But yeah

[magic ember]

I hope mystic get a rework or overhaul soon

[mint kelp]

Again???

[pseudo verge]

Yep

I did this earlier

[mint kelp]

Oh

[mint kelp]

Boomerang isnt THAT bad

Trust

[pseudo verge]

Its,

[mint kelp]

It does its job

I guess

[magic ember]

How is teleport useless when it can escape combos and evade ability

[pseudo verge]

Maybe I just cant use it good but I never

Could run boomerang at all its damage is too low

[magic ember]

And teleport can also go through walls

[mint kelp]

Just hold it

[pseudo verge]

Notice how I added to other abilities.

[mint kelp]

You could prolly do some decent damage with that

[pseudo verge]

Sure other options cant go through a wall, but if you run it evasively

Play buff or jester.

Or even lava

They do the same but provide even more to you.

[mint kelp]

Jester tuff

[magic ember]

Well jester has a stun and lava has movement and lot of damage

[pseudo verge]

And buff has a powerful kb and a active hitbox on its roll

[mint kelp]

Does damage orb add 2 extra damage to each individual laser in mech

[magic ember]

It not like going through is never when everything has aoe

[pseudo verge]

No idea if it does though that's crazy

I gotta try it

[mint kelp]

Heard people saying mech is absolutely cracked with damage orb so it’s just an idea

[pseudo verge]

Also for funnsies let me just

Ok I think that's

all the starter abilities

Also yes, I think robot could be good in the right hands the wrench does shockingly good damage if you can aim it

[mint kelp]

Mushroom is decently viable for its price actually

[pseudo verge]

mushroom brute is

Yeah

[mint kelp]

The buff and healer

Are decent

[pseudo verge]

The healer is?

[mint kelp]

It got basically no kb

And no ragdoll

you can do some pretty good combos

[pseudo verge]

Ok im curious now

[mint kelp]

mostly used it to farm snowflakes and candy corn

Discovered it’s decent

[pseudo verge]

Oh wow I never knew it

straight up didnt ragdoll

oops I tabbed off and god godpunched

[mint kelp]

yeah

[pseudo verge]

After clipping the hell out of a gravity mastery with it

I swear godpunches (especially ones with >10k punches)

[mint kelp]

also

[pseudo verge]

Get notified when someone tabs out

[mint kelp]

Just me or

Vine variant of tree is good for comboes

[pseudo verge]

Ive never used tree at all tbh

[mint kelp]

it’s like mushroom

But some are better

basically what it does is pull someone toward u with no ragdoll

i think it does 10 damage

[frosty patio]

Wsp goobers

Your favorite joink is back

[frosty patio]

Personally I use mushroom more then tree

Tho there both basically the same

[mint kelp]

no

tree more ranged

[frosty patio]

If I use tree I use big tree

[pseudo verge]

hm

I should try out tree

[frosty patio]

I don't use very much

[vagrant helm]

can you like actually use tree instead of just perma stalling

[pseudo verge]

Actually I bet damage orb healer mushroom.

Could be

REALLY good

[frosty patio]

You still main barrier?

[pseudo verge]

No

I stopped with that novelty a while ago its just

too slow

[chilly heart]

you forgot about cake

[peak bane]

no cake is a ranged attack with a tech to dash

[frosty patio]

Actually

If you walk forward jump and use ability you travel on top of the cake

[peak bane]

yeah thats called cake dashing

the cake explodes on ppl

not the punch

[frosty patio]

K

[pseudo verge]

Actually I can imagine

a group of healer mushrooms with damage orbs would

Rip anything and everything apart

[frosty patio]

Who going to spend that many punches on pap

[pseudo verge]

Yeah that's the problem

[chilly heart]

you forgot the tech where if you go close to a tree it fucking flings it faster

[frosty patio]

That's a thing

[mint kelp]

im trying it out rn

vine is OP bro

the range is good

[chilly heart]

it's a cross ability tech then

[pseudo verge]

Well

I made a 3 kill hivemind swap to time because of my healer mushroom

Crazy stuff

[mint kelp]

aura

told u its op bro

[frosty patio]

I wiped a lobby with crafter

[mint kelp]

try vine tree now

[pseudo verge]

Gotta save this one

Healer mushroom or max baller

Which do you kill in timestop?

(He tried to kill me)

ill try vine

[mint kelp]

hes obviously targeting you

[pseudo verge]

No he is

He was a hivemind before and I

shredded him with mushroom

[vagrant helm]

there's no way he is raging over HEALER MUSHROOM

[frosty patio]

I always get targeted

[pseudo verge]

I can only imagine getting shredded by a healer mushroom

Is tilting

Its like dying to mosquito bites

[mint kelp]

its underrated bro

[vagrant helm]

He will be so tilted at the towers

[mint kelp]

prolly op as fuck with damage orb

[pseudo verge]

nah I gotta agree with Pyro but also I think the moment I fight someone good with it

Id get destroyed

[vagrant helm]

kinda like tilted towers

[pseudo verge]

This server has a super low punch count

[vagrant helm]

really?

[frosty patio]

Unless you use the ability

[mint kelp]

just spam q too

it has a low cd

[vagrant helm]

is healer mushroom supposedly that good?

[mint kelp]

its not crazy

but its decent

[pseudo verge]

Ok idk about vine

[pseudo verge]

ik

Vine seems like

[mint kelp]

punch --> Q ---> punch

[pseudo verge]

Grapple but not as good

[frosty patio]

Only a hoj could do more dmg then you can heal

[vagrant helm]

Unmas defender archer-crusher tech goes crazy

[mint kelp]

does grapple deal damage now

[vagrant helm]

or archer

[mint kelp]

quantum

[halcyon rose]

jester banana tech is insane, makes him hella busted on team batlles

[pseudo verge]

Ok I get it

that is a pretty strong combo

[cunning gorge]

if you say so

[vagrant helm]

unmas defender + alch mas is the most vile thing ever

[frosty patio]

Never do that again

[vagrant helm]

and I will absolutely do it again

I love having enough knockback to send someone halfway across the map with a ranged attack