fringe wyvern
Getting back into grinding val again, hoping to beat my peak and get into immo3 then radiant. Wanted an outside opinion on my movement and aim + how I clear angles and if there's any issues. If so, what can I do to improve these issues. Also if anyone knows of a good drill to do to practice shooting slower, I think shoot too fast, like before I can even aim on the enemy so I end up just insta dying because I dont even aim before I shoot.
Link - https://youtu.be/zExh3spRacM
prime cove
I'm gonna be honest dude, I don't really see any major problems for a D3 in this DM. Your crosshair placement is pretty solid, taking a good amount of time to shoot & hitting most shots, you clear pretty quickly & make sure it's a horizontal peek, and you've got good gunfight hygeine.
There's a mistake at 1:59 where you decide to slice the pie in a situation where the first slice already exposes you to a bunch of angles you can't see so at that point it's better to full commit to a swing, and another one at 2:45 where you didn't microcorrect. But overall, I don't see any consistent patterns that I can point out to improve on.
If possible, I'd like you to drop tracker, and maybe drop a full comp match vod (if you do tho make sure it fits within the requirements of a good vod) because you look pretty solid. I don't think raw gunfights would be too much of a problem for you in diamond, so I'm curious as to whether it's something else.
fringe wyvern
Got you bro!
And thanks for the advice @prime cove
Honestly, I think some of my issue has to do with mental/autopiloting
fringe wyvern
I notice in a majority of the games I do bad in, I'm too focused on how I'm moving and how I'm shooting/aiming as opposed to enemy teamplay
And the games I do really good in
prime cove
I notice in a majority of the games I do bad in, I'm too focused on how I'm movi...
honestly that can sometimes happen, which is why i'd like to see a full vod if possible
prime cove
you're definitely mechanically confident enough to do fine in your DMs, but the real stress test is ingame
prime cove
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fringe wyvern
honestly that can sometimes happen, which is why i'd like to see a full vod if p...
Got you bro! I'll actually record this game right now, currently in agent select
prime cove
Got you bro! I'll actually record this game right now, currently in agent select
I would say if you feel like you're still struggling
prime cove
Got you bro! I'll actually record this game right now, currently in agent select
but from what I can tell it sounds like you know what to do and are doing it properly so best to come back when u start stagnating again
fringe wyvern
Gotcha
fringe wyvern
Just wrapped up 2 games! Got the VODs for both, I'll upload them both to YT and feel free to take a look at either (if you want ofc)
I'll be vod reviewing them myself as well
VOD 1 - Still processing I believe
prime cove
Just wrapped up 2 games! Got the VODs for both, I'll upload them both to YT and ...
second one looks good, I don'
I don't mind taking a look but ill have to do it later
fringe wyvern
Np, thanks I appreciate it
prime cove
ill prob do a main review of the second one, and just take a peek at the first one to see if there's some extremely consistent patterns
prime cove
Ill upload and send over the 2nd one asap as well
no need to rush tho, im gonna be busy for a few hours, gotta do scrims w my team
fringe wyvern
2nd vod!
fringe wyvern
no need to rush tho, im gonna be busy for a few hours, gotta do scrims w my team
Gotcha, good luck bro
fringe wyvern
https://youtu.be/U1L77wuU2w8
2nd vod!
Believe its processing, should be done by the time your ready
Once again ty
prime cove
oh I kinda forgot about this ill do it tmrw
lmk if u want to do a call or I just type it all out
if we do a call we can discuss the decisions behind various choices and go over some stuff more in-depth, but some people prefer if it's just written out
either way, I'll give you a breakdown of your biggest mistakes and ways to fix them
fringe wyvern
Hm whatever is easier for you honestly I do like typing out better but call might be easier for you
What time zone are you?
Im MST
Oh yeah I do work tomorrow as well so typing whenever you can would be better tbh, and once again ty for offering to do this
prime cove
Oh yeah I do work tomorrow as well so typing whenever you can would be better tb...
type out is fine, both work pretty well
fringe wyvern
Sounds good!
prime cove
https://youtu.be/iccaJIGG_hI
VOD 1 - Still processing I believe
0:57 Not properly taking advantage of the space you took. I'll give it a pass since I think you were testing to see if there was an angle on those site boxes, but because there isn't you were forced into an awkward position.
1:03 Your breach pulls out his flash and you swing before he flashes. You also swing too side, there's no reason to commit to a swing here, and your teammates aren't ready to fight with you yet. You get stuck fighting 3 people and die.
2:03 Unclear as to what this cloudburst is for
2:09 Right here you should probably be pushing up. Omen flash doesn't mean you can't fight, just means you need to take a much closer ranged fight. You have a stinger, so you're looking for close ranged fights anyways. Another option is to cloudburst yourself to make sure you can't be fought while blinded, but pushing up is probably better here.
2:15 Dash was unnecessary here, you just lost your best entry tool for no benefit.
2:30 bad gunfight hygiene, spray at that range + didn't hit target means you still need to be burst firing until you're actually on target.
4:08 Missed cloudburst, not much to say other than making a note of it. In this specific scenario you should also be dashing a bit more towards the center since the cloudburst missed.
4:11 Your pacing is a little fast, giving the reyna a 1v1 against you. Breach util is also still coming in + you already got a pick so no reason to try and speed ahead that fast, you can chill for a second.
5:47 Pacing is too fast. Your team barely opened the door and you're already on site.
6:55 Not respecting the possibility of someone in the smoke, you should be jumping in from the side, and also already be in the smoke to get yourself better timing with your team's utility.
7:00 like you said, that should have been a right click.
8:44 I like the aggro play, but ideally you tell your team what you're pushing first.
8:46 You gotta be ready for that swing, even though you're comming.
prime cove
9:54 why no cloudbursts? You can't buy for next anways.
10:00 Why Jett lurk? They haven't been flanking you and you're the entry duelist.
10:21 Wasted Jett dash, your team has no entry. You don't need to prime dash if you're just backing up.
10:56 You forgot the trip was there, make a note
11:01 Why do we think there could be a flanker? It's technically possible, but we know the enemy team rarely pushes up + we have trip, so barely a concern.
11:12 It seems like you sometimes have a good idea of what you did wrong that round, is this post-round reflection or something else?
12:08 ✅ much better pacing
12:26 We shouldn't be peeking out like this, just stay on your side and hold the angle.
13:41 You should be cloudbursting stairs before you push in, now that you know smoke dropped. Slowing down your pacing here is fine, since you literally can't push in safely.
14:31 No updraft, and buy sheriff, when we have knives? Why? You already can't buy for next anyways, and updraft + knives works really well. We're also lurking again?
15:30 I don't understand the thought process
16:54 updraft?
17:20 We really should be strafing here
17:35 We're not really aware of Omen ult here, we know they're down numbers so we really should be expecting an aggressive ult.
19:21 We're definitely rushing our shots a little here, take your time.
20:06 Shouldn't we be going light + utility? it would do us a lot of good to either get to an off angle with updraft, or play in an off angle and smoke out.
20:32 Not a fan of pushing up here, we're fighting a save with an outlaw. We also have dash, which allows us to play more unconventional spots and get out.
22:14 We're rushing our shots against chamber a little
23:04 Yeah but what are we positioning FOR? We're just sitting on A site doing nothing. Be ready to swing A main since Omen is holding it, or just leave.
25:30 I do think we should be incorporating a little more movement here, we're not on target and caught off guard, so we need to move first.
prime cove
26:31 Not sure why we dash tree, we're not with reyna bc we do.
26:42 Not sure why we do that shot there
31:01 We really should just be dashing away here. We're in a 2v5 and he's in an unexpected spot, no reason to commit. We already got the info we need. Also, I'm going to assume that omen called Chamber was B main, couldn't hear what he said.
37:41 Really not sure why we're priming dash here
38:44 We should be swinging this, no?
39:42 We're playing A exactly the same way every time. We need to take a bit of risk. Try an aggressive off angle with dash, go behind/on top of the stone box & use util to get out, maybe take an early fight but prime dash to get out, but right now we're just giving them A main, the most important part of the map, for free.
40:45 ✅ Nice fight with breach util
41:32 We should be a bit more in front, otherwise we're body blocking reyna
41:51 We should be routing front A site instead of around the corner while backing up.
Attack:
We tend to lurk a little too much, especially on a role as important as Jett. If you are lurking, it's better to be creating a bit of pressure and regrouping, rather than trying to do a crazy lurk. When we're with the team, our pacing is sometimes off, causing us to take unfavourable fights.
Defense:
We're bad at taking a moderately aggressive stance - one which allows us to take a favourable first fight and create pressure, and then quickly get out regardless of if we get a pick or not.
Our utility is also relatively uncreative, we're not using it to get in many weird angles which Jett thrives in.
Misc: Jett relies heavily on her dash, and we're often priming it in bad situations, or priming it and then not using it when we should be.
We also have a bad habit of going for hail mary flicks when surprised, instead of using movement to dodge the initial shots and calmly taking the next shot.
I would recommend studying some pro Jett players to get a better feel of when to use utility and how to use it.
Also if you'd like me to show you some of the things you can do on Jett I'd be happy to do so
I do think part of the reason you're not buying util when you perhaps should be is because you're not fully aware of the flexibility of Jett's kit.
from what I can see from the second game, it definitely seems to me that utility usage and rushing shots in panic situations is your most common mistakes.
fringe wyvern
Bet thank you bro these are some good insights I didnt even realize my usage of dash and utility in general was this bad lol
Any suggestions for pros to watch for jett?
I watch oxy
Usually just his livestreams for a little bit
fringe wyvern
Attack:
We tend to lurk a little too much, especially on a role as important as ...
Noticed this as well didnt realize how bad it actually was
fringe wyvern
Attack:
We tend to lurk a little too much, especially on a role as important as ...
Regarding the misc, this is 100% an issue as well and I dont really know how to train myself to be more calm with moving/aiming
Probably just going to hop into a DM and practice aiming a bit slower
prime cove
Regarding the misc, this is 100% an issue as well and I dont really know how to ...
queue into a DM with no audio, and have the mental state of "if I took the gunfight calmly, it's a win for me"
that way EVERY fight is a surprise
!pwea
gaunt sleetBOT
prime cove
Any suggestions for pros to watch for jett?
Aspas is the poster boy of jett players, I would consider him best but realistically there's a lot of good options
check the docs for all the ones that WHJ recommends
though yay and wardell might be a bit more questionable now
fringe wyvern
Ooh aspas okay bet
Yeah I havent seen wardell around much tbh
And yay is hard to find good vods sometimes unless I'm trippin
prime cove
And yay is hard to find good vods sometimes unless I'm trippin
https://www.youtube.com/@valorantdaily1976/videos I use this channel a lot
this guy posts like 5-10 vods of pro ranked games a day
you can usually find what you're looking for with this
fringe wyvern
Oh bet thank you
fringe wyvern
Btw once again thanks alot for the advice! Gonna be implementing these in my games rn and just focusing on these things, I think I also have an issue of worrying too much about mechanics lol
Hopefully once I start ranking up and seeing imporvements within the next couple weeks, I can come back once I hit another wall
prime cove
Btw once again thanks alot for the advice! Gonna be implementing these in my gam...
it's a difficult balance, you ned to focus on mechs when in a fight/first contact, but if we have breathing room we should be thinking
woven sapphire
Getting back into grinding val again, hoping to beat my peak and get into immo3 ...
this is old but you're getting ahead of yourself, like 2 steps ahead so you end up aiming in walls and yhou don't take your time. So when you preaim or sswing and angle its sloppy and you end up dying (legit first like 40 seconds shows that and the deadlock, waylay fights) 7:40 on timer, same thing bro you're flicking everywhere cause you know about the angles but you aren't trying to isolate the angles. Stop rushing
take your time and really use sound to help you prep along with using gamesense of common angles instead of flicking between angles. ITS NOT BAD to use sound, if you're running around the map to take fights if you're camping then I'd have a problem lmao
Thats what I got for the first minute 20
im sure its fixed by now or was mentioned
