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@dense thicket here it is, pushing every round on defense, dying 9/10 times when they're here 🥲
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGNNRsLtd2g
@dense thicket here it is, pushing every round on defense, dying 9/10 times when they're here 🥲
Ah
I see it
Alright yeah, you're too slow or hesitate
Round1 you don't swing when you get a breach concuss and omen blind for you
Round 2 is eco so idc
Round 3 look how slow you are to rotate and look at where you are at start of round
You and I both know you can be so much faster
Go towards the enemies as fast but as safely as you can
Don't hesitate either you go or don't go
well i saw clove wasn't hit, and i was about to swing into 5 people who might also have not been hit
and round 3 we have guns and they are on bonus, i don't wanna give them a free gun
then i rotate slow because idk if someone is vents
Hesitation, clove tucked you swing out you can shoot the others who are blind and concussed
Where you start isn't a problem, look at how you path and the timing of your pathing it's just so slow. You literally look like you dk where to go.
alright, i guess i really wasn't expecting someone to dodge the flash and it made me hesitate
Look at the minimap. Because you are so slow you create the timing yourself
because i don't lmao, idk if someone might be lurking a since they are on bonus, idk at what point im supposed to start rotating (when they are on site, when someone dies ?)
Why do you care if someone is lurking as a duelist?
You start rotating where the enemies are. For example split and you're ramp, most of the time you go vents
If they go b and you're A you go and flank
but they're on bonus
It's all about figuring most of that out yourself. Ask yourself "how quickly can I do this to get kills"
and by the time i got there everyone wouldve died already
and what if someone was a main ?
and heard me go vents ?
Why do you care?
because they can kill me for free ?
well yea you said i should go faster
They can only hear you if they crossed a main
so like not slow
yes
Plus
You're a duelist
Don't care too much about lurkers unless you absolutely have to
It's a non variable
i don't get what my role has to do with that
You go vent to b right? You are actively walking away
From the flank
He isn't going to kill
do i just fast rotate/start flank everytime it seems like they're hitting opposite site ?
So I had this past problem where I would hesitate in rotating to the point where I sat in vents (literally the rope area and look at nothing)
I learned that you either dovan extreme, rotate to a site or to a new location and stay there until they hit a site
Until I learn when I should rotate or should not rotate
i still don't get what im supposed to do
I can't give you an everytime example. I can't just explain to you "ah yes you push this you do this" it's just not possible.
But if your team is omen blinding and breach concus it is a non variable to think "oh this guy isn't blinded" or your rotate being slower because "what if there is a lurker all the way at a main when his entire team is going b"
That's some stuff you learn yourself, should you care about a guy across the map or should you help that one guy who is alone on site that you can get to faster and is holding down the fort against 4 people?
It's all about determining which is worth more and that comes in time
Put value onto thing and see if it's good or not
Like go ahead put value into that random guy on their bonus lurking A when round 1 and 2 there were no lurking and they 5 manned everything
It's neigh impossible to go over every scenario and it's also a correct line of thinking "don't take everything i say at face value"
i was also going slow because i saw people mid, and didn't want them to hear me
Comm to your breach to keep fighting and you can get there
But see this is the best argument to give, but instead you gave me the lurker reasoning
Change how you think about the game and think more along of "what best can I do to get a kill"
yea i tried to remember what i was thinking at the time
i didn't want the mid guys to hear me coming
but i was also trying to not be unaware of a potential flanker
You should always try to remember what you're doing
so you wouldve run and let them all hear you were vents ?
Still non variables exist and the value you put on stuff is really where it matters
Like here for example round 2
Notice how you played up, backed up cause of how dangerous it was stayed close got naded off then backed up and went back? You then got flashed
ALL OF THAT is good
Just unlucky you didn't get around the box fast enough
That is exactly what I'm talking about, play up get flashed or molly off
Still try to play up but back up when you have to
what about this ?
And keep testing those limits
I wouldn't play in the spot you were at, I would be ramp and do a jump spot. I see no one I then would go mid. I probably would be vents by about 1:33-1:35
You go ramp jump up on that box, do a jump spot air strafe thing and then you just go mid if you see nothing off the jump spot
Evidence of pro doing it
Jiing
so you'd do like 2 jump spots, immediately run vents after you saw no one ?
lmao
Says they ain't rushing
well they could just be playing contact
They would already make it to where you would spot
If they are contact
You're thinking too slow
The pace of the game is about 2 steps faster than how you think it is
and if it wasn't a bonus for them you'd go flank ?
if there was no info b or mid yet
Honestly on that map? Depends
Can't give you straight answer probably not?
they don't have an info senti here so i don't see why not
Yeah it depends on the team
Like are they 5 manning everything? Do they have lurks?
It doesn't matter if senti or not there's always the possibility of that one guy
well if i know they have a lurker i could still just slow flank, doesn't mean he'll kill me
i rarely fast flank anyways
Or you run his ass down and slide on him cause you're better and playing neon cringe agent
you think i never get one tapped mid slide ? 
more often than not in fact
Lmao
I made someone rq during neon meta
and i mean like perfectly perpendicular slides
Bro slid across a main haven on attack side
I'd one tap him every time
Thought I was cheating
Good times
yes thats me
i slide thinking ill get them and just get one tapped