#Plat 1 Raze Split

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hoary zenith
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I would like any advice at all. We won this game but I fear i was a huge hinderance. Currently in a rut from PLT 3 down but I just want to improve my game and not my rank. We won bc I was comming and commiting to plays but My performance was still horrible and I dont know what to do against players that seem to just outright be better than me or where i can improve to surpass them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBkikmlo3c

My tracker:
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/CallMeXbot%23222/overview

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Anything helps I am lost and want to just spam mechanic training but dont know if thats the right way to go about this

pallid knoll
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I understand that when you're winning alot doing what's working is pretty good so the 5 stacking A main was good up to 5-0

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However on round 2 enemy on Eco u took too much risk 5 stacking pushing into potentially all 5 of them if u were playing against a better team they mightve just 5 stacked A and potentially won the round which is why it's very good to play slow and default against eco rounds

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After u were 5-1 u really should've been calling vyse play A main omen play B main and smoke mail then u guys take vents control and decide which site to hit from there

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And honestly just do that until they try to counter it

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Also do u have a high radiant raze player u study

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Because it feels like some of ur entry's ur just winging it and it's not prepped

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At 19:38 timestamp in that exact moment ur reloading so u should be looking at ur minimap and u know it's 5v3

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5v2 I mean

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The aggression yes but put urself in the shoes of Reyna and vyse what are they doing right now?

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They're praying u push into them and make a mistake because that's the only chance they have to win the round so u have 3 options

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  1. Do what u did solo fight which is exactly what they want
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  1. ask ur Jett or whoever to fight with u be like "Jett come alley with me let's fight"
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  1. just tight jiggle alley for info then maybe consider fighting heaven with jett
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Options 2 and 3 are much more annoying for them to deal with

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Imagine ur Reyna getting double swung or trying to retake from alley only to see a raze jiggle and tuck so he has to come out and fight u, annoying ASF for him

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28:03 u seem to do this alot when u kill the guy mid u throw ur nade i feel it's kinda a waste I would just throw boombot and run away and use it for the guys coming out site

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If u had ur nade while they're coming out u wouldn't have had to play retake

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33:42 okay so basically u have this bubble around u

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If u know an enemy is in that bubble and ur not directly in a fight, insta ult and single satchel them it should be instinct

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The bubble is the size of the circle that appears on the minimap when u make noise

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And the more I watch ur vod especially on defense it's quite clear u don't watch any high radiant raze player

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34:27 jinggg would never do what u did

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Jinggg wouldn't nade ramps because he'd stand on the box ramps and hold till he kills a guy and if theirs more he instantly throws a satchel there and when they peak he'd pop the satchel having an advantage and getting2

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If he doesn't hear anything a main he'll jump spot and as he jump spots he'll bunny pop into vents for a very fast rotate

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And also u use ur nade too much with no hard info

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On defense specifically

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It costs u alot of the time 2

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I feel like u don't know the tradeoff ur making so on defense never throw a nade without info on the enemy location ever for like 10 ranked games

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To limit test

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After that do whatever u probably built up the intuition

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Sidenote when they're going to come out site let their duelist come out site then throw nade so it's only their duelist on site and fight to kill em never throw nade to stall to push

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Tl;dr

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Defense:

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First 10 seconds of the round has to look exactly like atleast peak 1000rr raze player or t1

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Ur next 10 games u only nade with hard info

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Attack:

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Executes must look like exactly how the high radiant raze player u watch would entry

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Ur preround plans need to be meant to kill someone who plays the same way they did the last round of if it's a consistent pattern (example Jett peaks b main last round u say I'm going to double satchel with judge to kill him)

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General:

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U throw boombot when u have info, this is good sometimes however u do it too much and it's almost a waste of a boombot so when theirs a potential threat ur worried about instead of throwing nade throw boombot

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And if someone's in ur bubble when u have ult up insta pop ult single satchel to them and fight

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These notes should help u out

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Oh yeah and for every double satchel u miss or it doesn't feel clean boot um a custom and do those satchels until u hit it 5x in a row

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In my free time I personally like to pull up an oxy or jinggg vod and try to do every double satchel they do until I can get them all 5x in a row

hoary zenith
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I will be limit testing with my nade for sure

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Going to spend some time in custom before I play ranked for the day to get some satchels I see from vods down aswell! Tysm

pallid knoll
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NPP

hoary zenith
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Hey if u dont mind do u have a suggested vod i should watch for raze? I cant anything that isnt a year old

pallid knoll
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opening this as ur typing holy im good

hoary zenith
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LOL

hoary zenith
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tysm

pallid knoll
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he's a damn good raze player

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I would suggest ray4cs yt channel but he's imm3

hoary zenith
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I can not use shotguns

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I whiff so much and get in bad spots

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Ik he loves that playstyle

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I just looked at my tracker its actually mind boggling for weapons

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for this season only

pallid knoll
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just gotta grind it out

pallid knoll
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@hoary zenith also pretty important thing I forgot to mention

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make a list of things that make u uncomfortable on every map

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and look what oxy does or whatever raze player u watch does in that situation

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b/c almost all the time these guys are comfortable asf

hoary zenith
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Ty btw

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I’m diamond 1 rn