#Omen | Bronze 2 (Hardstuck forever) | Haven | Mumbai Server

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dark remnant
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I started valorant 5 months ago, and im very inconsistent. This is one of my better games, i usually never use comms. I've noticed that I lose focus and do stupid things often but the main thing i struggle with is gunfight hygeine. I do aimlabs and do deadzoning drills in the range. And my deathmatches are very good, better than i need for a bronze lobby and im good enough to win deathmatches against my silver friends (a few of them were former plats). But i just cant seem to do the same thing in ranked or unrated. Once the game starts its like i lose all my skill and turn into an iron player. This game wasnt so bad, i maintained alot of focus and rarely crouch sprayed but I feel like there is so much i could have done better this game

edgy spoke
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first make i saw is not making a plan but i understand ur in bronze people dont listen second thing is your to scared sometimes.In 2nd round your teammate is fighting the clove and you couldve peaked clove with their back turned. Also i saw you peeking into multiple enemies many times. When you peak c long u peak wide and usually peak into 2 or more people. You don't get punished enough for this but you either gotta jump peek for info or if you really wanted to fight you don't peek as wide. Also use your tp more

dark remnant
# edgy spoke first make i saw is not making a plan but i understand ur in bronze people dont ...

the tp thing is something i've noticed, but its just that i either get too scared or when i do use my tp i just die instantly. but i've been tryna do plays that involve my tp more and i think i did a good tp once during this game at around 23:10 (i did die instantly after i got a kill on clove)

the peeking thing is something that i've wanted to change but i just get tunnel vision and forget, but im still trying to do it more often.

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thanks alot for the reply i honestly didnt expect anyone to vod review a bronze game tbh

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i also have a few questions, when should i really look at my minimap? cus usually everytime i look i either get jumpscared or someone walks right past me and i panic and whiff all the shots. its been so bad that i tend to check the minimap rarely (prolly why i didnt see that the clove was a free kill that round u mention). the same is for walking with my knife out, alot of the times i run w my knife i get jumped on but then i cant never pull out my knife either.

frozen axle
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Good question! U almost always look at the minimap when you dont have your gun out. For example, when your holding your knife or your ability, u should look at the minimap.

dark remnant
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ahh alr that makes sense

dark remnant
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@frozen axle @edgy spoke this was a horrible match as u can see on the scoreboard, but i had a few good moments and i was just wondering if there was any way that i could have guaranteed a win this round. anything i could have done better?

frozen axle
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Great effort overall! Yes there are certain things u could’ve done better to win, but for a bronze player I think u did great. My recommendation:

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  1. Break the sage wall before u rotate mid. Leaving the wall intact will give the enemy team freedom to rotate. Breaking the wall will create a threat of rehitting that they will have to assign at least 1 player to be stuck on b
edgy spoke
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or like u cant shoot

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or sometimes i take a quick peek at my minimap just to see if i can get a refrag if i hear gunshots

frozen axle
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  1. Jump spot for info when u rotate to an unknown territory. Like when u rotate to mid, if u had jump spotted cat u would’ve seen the op and avoided a teammate’s death
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  1. When the cypher ult shows all enemies on a, u should’ve rotated b. Its ok to stick around A just a little bit to get a kill (since ur down in numbers). But when u ware left in a 1vX situation (like the 1v2 in this round), u should’ve definitely ulted b and planted. I would give u decent odds to clutch a 1v2 postplant because people dont know how to trade their teammates in low elo
dark remnant
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yea all that makes sense, tysm

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ill be back after i hit silver hopefully

dark remnant
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@edgy spoke @frozen axle hi i haven't ranked up yet but im seeing a bit of improvement in my gunfights except its still very inconsistent

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i feel like that 3k was very good, and i knew that the reyna was on site, so i knew i was peaking into an enemy but then i instantly lose confidence and panic and just start crouch spraying

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any tips on how i could prevent that?

frozen axle
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If u had known about the reyna on site u shouldn’t have reloaded in the open like that. U were actually lucky that reyna didn’t immediately one tap u when she saw u reloading in the open

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The first 3 kills were good because u took the time to readjust your crosshair on the enemies. In the duel with reyna, u insta crouched before readjusting. Even if its a close distance fight, taking one extra split second to readjust gives u a much higher chance of registering the bullets, even if its just a spray down

dark remnant
frozen axle
dark remnant
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yea that makes sense

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thanks

strong juniper
dark remnant
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thanks lol means alot

dark remnant
strong juniper
dark remnant
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i got killed by a classic while i had a vandal on long range on pearl

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i also had a game where i had to play against a smurf neon on pearl

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everything bad that happened, happened on pearl

dark remnant
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@edgy spoke @frozen axle were my shots too slow here? it was just a swiftplay, i was warming up. and ik taking my time to aim is good especially in low elo and the speed will just come on its own as i do more aimlabs but i cant help but notice how slow some of my shots were

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so was it too slow?

frozen axle
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U think its “slow” because u took a bit longer than usual to kill them, but look at how clean your shots were and how little they hit u despite run and gunning or insta crouch spraying. The reason the shots were “slow” because u are still developing the micro adjustment skills so u will obviously need more time to one tap people comparing to someone from diamond or higher. But I would much rather see u taking your time and being intentional in trying to kill people than insta crouch spraying and praying (unless the distance is <20m)

dark remnant
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yea that makes sense

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thanks

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the aimlabs is working fr

dark remnant
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@frozen axle hi its been a while, i've been busy but i have been doing aimlabs and dms and just working on my mechanics, and i also have been trying to use my tp more as u suggested, as u can see in the clip. I was wondering if there was anything wrong i did in this clip, cus i feel like it was winnable. I genuinely thought the reyna was all the way over at a site.

frozen axle
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First off, GREAT GREAT GREAT EFFORT!!!!!

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U showed VAST improvement from the last clip

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I dont have any problems with your tp usage

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Yes there are still areas of improvement. However, I need you to understand that with this pace, you will get out of bronze VERY SOON (ofc after time-consuming smurf/troll-teammate games)

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My recommendations for improvement are:

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  1. Use your flash with intent. In the clip, u flashed thru smoke but didnt follow up. I think it was wasteful and it revealed your position in the 1v3. I would have just walked and looked for more 1v1s
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  1. Generally, when u have to clutch, use your smokes flexibly for more maneuverable opportunities. In the clip, u smoked hookah when u were already jumping out. I wouldve smoked the area I wanted to plant because that would’ve given me cover and space for maneuver
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If u had smoked the area u wanted to plant, u wouldve avoided dying to reyna and actually had a high chance to win the last 1v1

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Combining with the flash that u couldve saved, u couldve waited for reyna to tap and then flash her. THAT wouldve given u very favorable odds, up to 80-20 or even 90-10

dark remnant
frozen axle
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Trust me it was wasteful and did u more harm than good

dark remnant
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thats why i smoked hookah cus i assumed i had time

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and the reyna uses the tp alot in this game so i thought she would prolly come from that side

dark remnant
frozen axle
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I mean if u really thought she was showers that wouldnt make sense to smoke hookah at all because it wouldve taken her a lot of time to rotate either thru CT or flank

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If she took tp that wouldve been even better because u couldve used tp or thrown a smoke on site then ran to CT back to A

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The reason behind all this is u wanna reveal as LITTLE info as possible in a clutch scenario

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Thats why I recommend flexible smokes for more space to maneuver

dark remnant
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that makes sense ill keep that in mind

dark remnant
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but ig i was wrong

frozen axle
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Ok lets say she was lamps but failed to trade u when u killed neon

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a. If she rotated thru CT, it wouldnt make sense to smoke hookah after u jumped out. A random site smoke wouldve given u a lot more cover

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b. If she flanks then thats great u got a plenty of time to reposition after planting

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c. If she took tp then u KNEW exactly where she was and u wouldve got an upper hand. Like I said u wouldve had a lot of options of how to play out the clutch

dark remnant
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yea makes sense i should try to remain more calm during clutches

frozen axle
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Dont stress about it

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Clutching takes a lot of time and experience

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Making mistakes is a great opportunity for growth

dark remnant
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yea thanks for the advice ill be back again soon hopefully

frozen axle
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I really like the mindset that u either win or learn

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Helps u keep your head up

dark remnant
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yea

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playing omen aggressively kinda trains you to not give af abt when u die and just fix the mistake u made the next time u do the same tp, and trust me i've died alot playing like this. so i dont rlly mind losing

frozen axle
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Love to hear that

ivory hull
dark remnant
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but yea i def need better mechanics

low sigil
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also planting a bit more safe is better when you dont have information on the last people

low sigil
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but i wont take this post off topic :p, good improvement for you in general

dark remnant
low sigil
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xd

dark remnant
low sigil
dark remnant
dark remnant
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@frozen axle pls help, anything i could be doing better?

low sigil
# dark remnant <@203143289698910208> pls help, anything i could be doing better?

You arent good at pre aiming, you are trying to slice the pie i can see that effort but it becomes useless since you arent pre aimed at the correct angle that you want to clear, and you arent being thorough with slicing the pie either, it felt like you were kinda speed running it at the fight with kayo at 3:46 which is why you died because before you even cleared the angle you were pre aiming at the next one to clear it out

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also not really a fan of shift walking in deathmatches, imo its better to just run around so your head is moving faster in case someone spawns close to you and surprises you

dark remnant
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yea i get that, how can i be better at pre aiming?

low sigil
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oh and lastly every time you respawn in dms you can look at your minimap to see whats a favorable fight for you to take because it literally just gives you the enemy locations, therefore you dont need to clear certain corners after respawning cause you know no ones there

low sigil
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basically you vod review yourself, see at what point you died because of bad pre aim, hop into a custom for that map and practice pre aiming that angle

dark remnant
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got it thanks

low sigil
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@dark remnant you got the vod for this game you just played?

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if so drop it ill check it out tmr i wanna check your recent gameplay

dark remnant
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nah i dont think so, i dont record all the games

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ill record a vod tmrw, ill send it as soon as im done

frozen axle
dark remnant
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sure yea ill send one today

spice star
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I just feel like to get out of bronze, u should stop filling (stop playing smokes) since anyone in your team can do it(if u can why can't they), and if u train gunfight hygiene in dm, you should probably be playing chamber, phoenix, Jett, or mainly Reyna, because you can take fair 50/50s and get away, with omen, you peek into 2, 3 or 5, sometimes get 1 and then die, but with a get out of jail card or even flashes, I feel like you can get more fair duels like you practice in dm for

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Just like in the boomer to diamond series

dark remnant
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i have tried duelists but tbh i suck at entry as jett, and i dont rlly enjoy playing reyna that much except in tdm. i play chamber every now and then and im pretty good with his hh. and im not filling smokes, i enjoy playing smokes, especially omen and clove. i like playing passive most of the time but i also like the option playing aggressive and being super reckless when i have to. And besides, valo is my first fps and i seriously have trash aim and mechanics so i feel like playing smokes or other characters that help u gain an unfair advantage is the best idea for me, but i still aim train and grind dms so that i dont need to rely on my abilities all the time to win fights

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i plan on playing duelists eventually, im waiting for my mechanics to get better

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haughty storm
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Aimlabs is your friend here. Mechanics will get you like 90% of the way to gold. In terms of other parts of the game, feel free to experiment with your playstyle. Yoru could be a good fit with how he likes to play. His general playstyle is he'll lurk away from his team but throw a tp near them. And when he wants to switch to play with his team he can just tp. His tps give him an okay entry option when used well, as well as a way out of dangerous spots

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And specifically on jett, entry isn't quite as hard as you might think. I'm not super advanced into it but the general strategy is throw a cloudburst into the middle of the site (but close enough that you can dash to it) and dash into it right after it forms. From there you want to figure out if you saw anyone when you went in, then check your minimap briefly to see if your team is walking in or if they see someone. If your team is out and you see someone on minimap you can fight then you preaim and peek to fight them. If you get hit with some util or your team is still not out you can smoke yourself again. The main difficult thing is just doing this all in under 5 seconds

dark remnant
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i have been wanting to try duelists, so ill prolly try this in a few unrates idk if i have the confidence yet to be a duelist on ranked, thanks for the tips it helps alot

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and im rlly afraid of trying jett cus i have to do it all so fast

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but yea i should prolly give it a try again

haughty storm
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I mean honestly probably just practice it in a custom game a few times to get the muscle memory down

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If you wanna get better at an agent, you need 3 things. Game time, custom game time, and pro vod reviews (you can do these yourself, just make sure you're actively taking notes of what they do)

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If you wanna get better at mechanics, hooj has a video on movement (as important as good aim), practice in the range, do deathmatches, and be consistent on aim training

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And comms is the last important thing for your rank, but imo it's not as important as the others, and getting better is really just forcing yourself to do it

dark remnant
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yea thanks ill keep that in mind, i have been doing the gold mechanics drill tho, i have seen alot of improvement

dark remnant
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@frozen axle here u go, it was a warm up tdm so not rlly my best, i played 2 more before this one, and i sucked hard but i can send those too if u want

low sigil
# dark remnant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf-caYL7t_Q&ab_channel=BigFudge

So the thing i noticed is that you have giga target confirmation skills which is so good for your rank, however the only thing i was wondering is whether or not this carries over to your ranked gameplay because even on omen you are using aggressive tps in this tdm and playing super calm, which is good. So i am looking forward to seeing your next ranked vod and see if the gameplay remains the same

dark remnant
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unfortunately no lol, i have trouble converting this into ranked. sometimes i do but sometimes im just very scared and not at all calm. I did just finish a ranked match with my friends, we were 5 stacking so tbh we werent all that srs and one of them was just trolling so i wasnt on my best game. i can send u that vod or ill just send u a soloq game later today

low sigil
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drop the vod for your next ranked game and ping

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good luck

dark remnant
dark remnant
low sigil
# dark remnant <@1087690275578708029> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDb4fGOe1f8&ab_channel=Bi...

Okay theres a lot to unpack here.
First off, for your elo(till gold), theres two play styles you can adopt

  1. You instalock duelist, focus on your 50s, rewatch your deaths when you took a fair 50 and died, and improve from there also mute all your enemies and team mates, basically the hooj approach.
  2. Since i know you enjoy playing omen, you can keep playing the agent but we need to start comming then, because all support agents NEED to comm their utility otherwise duelists will have a pretty tough time doing their job
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apart from that, we need bit more minimap awareness
at 6:50 you start holding flank for some reason not realising your jett has pushed up all the way mid towards their spawn which means chances of flank are low. Even then if you are getting flanked on a timing from vents, our breach is coming back from spawn so he can handle it. and even if we dont have that, its not our job to be holding flank as omen especially when we have our paranoia to fight the flood on retake

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As for focus points for your next ranked game its gonna have to be target confirmation because you rush your shots in ranked unlike the calm aim you have in TDM

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Oh and lastly when we see someone like our reyna talking, we mute them, doesnt matter if they say something relevant later on, toxic people need to be muted for the sake of your own mental

dark remnant
dark remnant
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and i rlly dont wanna go back to iron so i kinda stick with the agent i already know

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but do u think i should just forget my rank and just alternate between duelists and controllers?

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i dont wanna stop playing omen but i also wanna get better mechanics so that i dont have to focus on my abilities all the time

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and ik i can just keep playing dms, but i always fail to convert my skill in dms to my skill in ranked. so i just figured the only way i get better in ranked is just keep playing ranked while practicing dms as warm up

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so i feel like instalocking duelists the hooj way is the best if i wanna get better mechanics in ranked but im still not sure

low sigil
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which is bad

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basically you are going to lose RR when you play games in which you are only focused on one thing (for you its target confirmation right now), this loss in inevitable, but on the longer term after you have integrated this into your ranked games, we will climb hella up

low sigil
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theres only one role in valorant which purely focuses on gun fights and mechanics and its the duelists

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if this still leaves you to be indecisive then take a look at my win rate between the same sample size across both roles

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its literally just because on duelist i am pure focused on duels rather than smoking for my team

dark remnant
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fair enough

low sigil
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and if you think its because i lack experience on controller then theres this

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omen is my most played agent

dark remnant
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hmm yea maybe i should do it

low sigil
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still across 14 matches on controller i won 3 of them and on 13 matches on duelist i won 11 of them

dark remnant
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im gonna alternate between both the roles

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if i cant instalock duelist then ill play omen or clove ig

dark remnant
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the inflation is crazy

low sigil
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yeah

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and if you look at my K/D on controller its not even bad fact is that its better than my duelist K/D but playing support requires good duelists which unfortunately isnt guaranteed in any rank, its lesser the lower elo we go

dark remnant
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yea usually my duelists are shit

low sigil
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but yeah thats me coping about my own games now, as for you i think its worth playing duelist and picking up mechs as a focus point

dark remnant
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even when i 5 stack the guy who instalocks jett just jumps into an op within the 5 secs or just lurks with a sherrif

low sigil
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what is this then?

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do i see a higher win rate on jett?

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its 3 matches only i will grant you that, but i certainly think its worth picking duelist

dark remnant
dark remnant
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and besides i think got carried cus look at my other stats on duelist

low sigil
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it works

dark remnant
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never thought i'd turn into a jett instalocker but ig this is the price i have to pay

low sigil
dark remnant
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yea i understand that

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im just kidding

low sigil
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lol

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alright good luck for now, i am hoping to see your next vod to be on duelist

dark remnant
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it prolly will be lol

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i can prolly send one today if u can take a look at it, im gonna hop on valo soon. or should i give it some time before the next one?

low sigil
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make sure you are focused on target confirmation though, it doesnt matter if you die without shooting, i dont want you shoot until your crosshair is reasonably close to their head

dark remnant
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got it

dark remnant
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i rlly dont know how this game went, i feel like i did good some times and lost focus some other times

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i really need to work on focusing better

low sigil
# dark remnant <@1087690275578708029> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTCobx3Z2M&ab_channel=Bi...

i realistically dont have anything to say until round 7 because we play reyna pretty normally and we frag out on all these rounds.
Round 7 i dont like that we take an unfair 50/50 against phoenix (he lives even if we kill his ult), but that can be subjective. Whats more important is your pre aim was too high which didnt give you enough time to adjust.
Bad decision making in round 8 13:45, lets hold an off angle when we have info on their location and they dont know where we are, its super advantageous because we are playing reyna so we can get one and get out.
Round 9 we just heard deadlock place a sound sensor, pushing it is not the best idea.
Round 11, same thing, a bit overly aggressive when hunting 50s, lets not over expose to multiple angles at once
Round 12, overly aggressive, we got a free kill, they know our location,we have man advantage, lets take a breather and either regroup with team or reposition elsewhere.
Round 13, this is a mechs gap, you are having trouble tracking this jett really badly, are we doing aimlabs routine of hooj? if not lets get started on that.also we fired super quick on her too, notice how when we calm down we frag out for the rest of the round.
Round 14, did we not hear jett dash up short? we peeked short almost knife out, lets be more careful when opponents give free info and we dont make use of it.
Round 16, bodyshot level pre aim, i think we need to practice haven short pre aim in general.

low sigil
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Honestly, not a lot of focus points, thats cause if we play like this we just rank up

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But for the most part,
Do WHJ aimlabs routine, smarter aggression - reposition after getting a kill, breathe, regroup with team, and this will make you go less 1 for 1s

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and stop changing your agents, lets hit silver on reyna for real because this is what our other agents look like

dark remnant
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oh yea i just play omen when im 5 stacking w friends cus no one else knows how to smoke in our team

low sigil
dark remnant
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got it

dark remnant
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@low sigil @frozen axle I DID IT

low sigil
dark remnant
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tysm ahhhh

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the last game was so bad tho, in terms of kills, but i still had a high tracker score

frozen axle
dark remnant
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it took so long but yea one step at a time

dark remnant
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So i've been doing better mechanically, atleast it feels like it. But for some reason, after a few rounds i just burn out and go absolute trash mode. Until i start fraggging out really good for one or two rounds and then im back to being an npc. Idk why this keeps happening, i thought maybe all the good plays are just me being lucky but im pretty sure thats not it since i do really good for the first 7 or so rounds on avg.

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Is there anything i can do to stop this?

dark remnant
low sigil
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i'll drop full review tmr

dark remnant
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alr tysm i appreciate it

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also side note, tejo needs a nerf.

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like i dont even need to play him in a match to know, bro NEEDS to be nerfed

dark remnant
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@low sigil how do i deal with crouch sprayers? like alot of low elo crouch spray and by the time u get to bronze, ppl r kinda good at it. And when i try to strafe i fail miserably because i've already been tagged with a body shot slowing me down and then before i can even aim i get deleted but the unholy spray control the level 200 bronze player somehow attained

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how do i deal with that? am i just slow? do i just need to keep playing and eventually ill get faster at reacting and aiming?

low sigil
dark remnant
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13 consistently

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medium diff

low sigil
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yeah. thats too low, we need 20+ consistently, I know it feels like i am just linking a hooj vid but he explains it best so
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03:58 ISSUE #3: RUSHING SHOTS/LACK OF MICROADJUSTMENT
04:56 ISSUE #4: SLOW FLICKS
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low sigil
dark remnant
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yea but im still too slow so the first bullet hits me 60% of the time

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i need to work on that

low sigil
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basically, bot spawn in, instead of stopping immediately and relying on raw aim to make it to your head, we use our movement to make your crosshair reach their head and kill

dark remnant
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yea i noticed that i was relying on my aim too much and i've been focusing on my movement more, it seems to be getting better

low sigil
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we can hop into a custom and we can drill this for a bit i can just be your average crouch spraying reyna

ancient furnace
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I can send vod deathmatch here?

dark remnant
low sigil
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low sigil
dark remnant
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thanks alot, is the vod review almost done? im curious to see all the creative mistakes ive made

low sigil
dark remnant
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lol its alr take ur time

dark remnant
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bro i got placed in bronze 1 😭 i just finished my placement matches i match mvped the 2 helppppp

dark remnant
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@low sigil @frozen axle why is riot doing this to me bruh 😭 20 rr on a game where i dropped 31/13

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my mmr cant be that bad bro

low sigil
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@dark remnant lmk when you are free, i am up for practice

dark remnant
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alr ill lyk soon

dark remnant
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@low sigil im on now

dark remnant
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13-8

dark remnant
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@low sigil I feel like my mechanics have gotten worse or atleast is not improving anymore and idk why. im not sure if its my aim or my movement. So i've been playing a few ghost dms, i'll send the link in a min but can you take a look?

dark remnant
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@frozen axle i'd love ur input too

low sigil
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plus dm is great place to practice gun fight hygiene so I wanna see that as well

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I would surely review the dm but right now it's just that you are giving yourself a disadvantage for some reason

dark remnant
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but yea ill send a vandal dm in a bit

low sigil
frozen axle
# dark remnant <@203143289698910208> i'd love ur input too

Don’t hate the ghost dm practice as long as u are trying to improve your first shot accuracy. However that is a bit too difficult. U can still practice 1st shot accuracy and movement with sheriff only dm, which I think would more realistically translate to in-game fights.

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Like @low sigil said above u should work on vandal/phantom more right now. If u insist on ghost practice then spam TDM instead