Chamber | Gold II | Split | September 16, 2023

[real breach]

VOD: https://youtu.be/VICm7rZviDo
Tracker: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ClassicLean%239374/overview
Match: https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/8d5df2eb-b3f4-4b0c-b873-753a44151b66

Here are my notes from the VOD:

Rounds With Pre-Round Plans:

• Round 1
• Round 13
• Round 18
• Round 21
• Round 22
• Round 23

Rounds With Disadvantageous Engagements:

• Round 1

Other Notes:

• Round 17 - Wasn't near my Omen when he was fighting
• Round 20 - I should have paid more attention so that I could have heard that Jett was running towards A-Heaven window and when she dropped to Flowers

Would it be possible to ask for points for improvement?

[jade inlet]

Very interesting

Tripping mid without considering that Sage will wall it

This may be a personal preference but I think it will help you become a successful chamber main if every pistol round,
4 headhunter bullets and 1 trip

The headhunter is a very strong util on chamber that should ALWAYS be used

I like that you started first round playing an off angle on B

Now lets put into a hypothetical situation

Are you going to get a kill faster with your ghost, or would a weapon like the sheriff or your headhunter be more viable

If you cannot guarantee that you will 100% headtap with the ghost when they swing your off angle, you need to think about how you can reduce their health at the very least

hence why you should op for headhunter or sheriff

But preferably the reason trip is good is on atk it holds flank, while defense is just defense

okay wut

Because i didn't watch the gameplay yet, i don't understand why you drop down from the off angle

and played the common angle

Rule #2 On Chamber, do not play common angle

You want to maximize surprising your enemy

and make them extra worry when they swing an angle

Second round

Why are you playing a passive angle

That spot would be combo IF
you have a trip holding main

Lets say they actually push B

You know what happens? Reyna blind paired with gekko flash

not to mention skye who would theoretically dog and clear you before they push

Eco round

buy headhunter bullets

1700 is the lowest you need to have save to buy full armor and rifle

And think of it that each bullet = a kill

And im not kidding. 80% of my eco rounds I can convert one kill with a bullet

oh damn who woulda guess

[jade inlet]

Round 3, skye dog then gekko flash

You need a trip for defense dawg

sometimes you have to play off it to maximize kills

Round 4

What was the game plan

I think you were tryna trip so you can play rafters if they push B

I just don't see a play cause you gonna get flash before you can shoot

and you better hope they don't split B cuh you just gonna tp to death

Rule #3 You ADS with the Headhunter

I kid you not whoever says you don't are trolling

The gun is literally a pocket guardian that when you ads and it locks on the target you will hit them

(there was so many whiff shots)

Round 5 is just back to Rule #2 do not play common angles

Chamber is one of those agents that

you rely on 50/50 everytime when you don't use the tp

Bad

Also how are you round 5 without the op

You need to farm orbs for your ult as well

if they go the opposite site, it doesn't take you well over 10s to grab a free orb

Round 6

Wut

Hey guys B site is open

don't worry im playing a deep off angle but its free

NOOO WUT

You're playing chamber but the one being scared isn't them but you

The OP

Like instantly That needs to be out and you need to stop playing passive

At that point you better switch to cypher or kj

The fact that you got the kill shocks me

No flash or skye dog that should have cleared you

I may have to actually create a playbook for my chamber mains

By Round 9

Ive yet to see you flank

Well this could be considered a rule but you need to prioritize map control

FREE ORB and increasing your chance of gettting a lurk kill lost

Let's say your team holds A down

they start rotating

you could be the one holding mid down and getting all that info

but instead you run retake simulator through spawn

Im so glad you finally op

once again you play the common angle

Im so glad reyna jiggled you

They know when you have money to buy op and its only a matter of seconds when you'll actually use it

But look we miss the shot then we are scared to peak again

and why are we scared to peak again?

Because we are playing an angle that would be prefired at

You're not making it out in high elo

That angle is not safe

Your TP is worthless

Im gonna assume it didn't register that jett push into site with his smokes

and we just ignored after the smokes were gone

Eh round 13 pistol was alright, Not really sure why skye didnt fight for ramp

but its low elo im thinking too much

Round 14

Why are you entrying

you didn't even com that you were gonna push nor did you consider skye coulda dog to clear cyphers trap

Chamber also should not be pushing

on atk you should be playing passive 70%

preferably lurking

I can understand for your buy round but no coordination there, lost

Round 15 uh why do you keep entrying 💀

And its not even that you're dry swinging

get into habit of calling for flashes and stuff

I would punish you as skye by flashing when you start running up heaven for free kills.
or the guy holding site will do a large amount of dmg before you even cross

21:54

Can you just ask sage to come ramen and heal you instead of running around the map to get a heal

you lost so much time doing that

why aren't we trying to lurk up A

31:25 Chat

I NEED MORE BOOLETS

😭

Alright pretty much the rest of the round good contribution to pushing A

But I hate that TP on ramp so much

You didn't really face someone fighting you for control

cause what are you gonna tp to when they swing you

TLDR CHAT

Firstly are the 4 Chamber Rules you gotta oblige to

Rule #1 You need to OP
Rule #2 You do not play common angles with your tp (or try not to 95% of the time)
Rule #3 You should and must ADS with your headhunter. (should prolly add as a rule that you need to always use your headhunter)
Rule #4 Lean towards lurking most if the time, understand when you should play with and without your team

Your mechanics looks really good, you just didn't maximize with your agent usage

😼👍

1h vod review, on phone is tiresome

https://streamable.com/6q0abe
here's a small clip of a eco round

Do you see how aggressive and off angle im playing

I put in faith I always hit with 1 bullet and I did just that

Try to change around your position

The best players are the ones that are unpredictable

I never saw your hold on A either which is scary

Oh and lets say theoretically I miss that shot you know what happens when they swing? My trip is holding them with full arms

the trip that I didn't see 99% of the game

Holy shit

I ping the wrong guy

[jade inlet]

@real breach my fault gang, but this the summary of the vod. Id appreciate if you read it all (its kinda long doe)

I also want you to try asking for help from your team like flashing and smoking or doubling a hold

I don't think i heard much com aside from how much damage you did to someone or if you made contact with another guy

[real breach]

Thanks for taking the time to review my VOD, I really appreciate it.
Also, I've read everything you've typed but I'm unsure how to reply hahahaha

[real breach]

Yeah, this is the first game where I made the active effort to communicate pre-round plans to my team. I usually play on auto-pilot.

[real breach]

With regards to rule #1, is it really mandatory to OP even on attacking?
I watched a Nats VOD earlier and I don't recall him buying an Operator at all on Attack
-Nats VOD: https://youtu.be/QDzDPWHxBg0?si=P0HUYaOhGA9geUe4

[jade inlet]

Oh no no

Atk is not mandatory

See you would put yourself in the position to lurk and we don't lurk with the op

thats goofy

I should prolly correct that but on Defense you need op most of the time

you can control a lane so easily and it scares people from pushing too

[real breach]

What’s the optimal way to play when you’re holding a site with an OP and then they use flashes to enter?

[jade inlet]

you need to be holding an angle that reduces them from flashing early on

For example B main

you know the first TP you set up on the first round that you didn't commit to it

Have you seen them flash out just to peak?

Nope cause 99% of the time you just swing it (you'll get punished in super high elo but its fine for now)

Thats one OP angle you should be playing

another could be literally just swinging main

but you need utils from your team

in order to get a shot in cause its a prefire angle

You can also hold close like i did with the clip

and then you can switch to holding A ramps

(put a tp into vent swing A ramp)

or mid

If i had my clips from yesterday i could prolly show you all my defensive setup and kills

unfortunately i erased them

[real breach]

To me, it didn’t make sense placing a trip there because I was already the “trip”. I always place trips in locations that I don’t hold

[real breach]

Similar to how Nats places his trips

[jade inlet]

but

you don't realize that you aren't holding the site

you don't play any aggressive angle and its always been a walk into B for them

Sage has been playing mid every round

she takes care of mid

so why aren't you tryna trip main

check out 25:00 on nats video

never saw you swung like that

[real breach]

That’s fair. If I trip mid, I should be peeking main aggressively

[real breach]

Same reason as I told you earlier. Also, can you please explain why Nats is doing the same thing even though his Sage is playing mid?

[jade inlet]

This is just a self fight for myself

I always try to see if i can get more first blood than my old record

Only with chamber because you can maximize him as his kit is design to make it into a 5v4

[jade inlet]

Radiant expectation vs lower may vary

but you do see how the enemies are fighting for mid control

(which you should)

To some point sage wall will be meaningless cause you can just break it

They have a raze and breach

a raze could literally double satchel and fast up heaven

combo with a breach stun

and thats one control you lost

[real breach]

Okay. I also played back during Defense because I wanted to play retake as I was the only person in site. Next time, I’ll try to peek B-Main and fire shots and then TP out and go from there

[jade inlet]

I don't mean any harm, but retake in lower lobby is awful just because of how very few will work together unlike how elo to retake site using util together. I see that decently even in my diamond lobbies

But

this is where the OP comes in

you haven't grasp it yet that the OP is very powerful

that usually you can leave that guy on site alone

just because he has an op

Lets put into your perspective

if I got an early kill on your team holding B with an OP

do you want to push the site

Not only will it make you reconsider but it slows down your whole team

[real breach]

I guess that’s true. It’s just what Hooj explained in a recent video of his.

• if you have a teammate in-site, you fight with them
• if they’re playing back or not in site at all, you play retake

[jade inlet]

I understand

but lets look at chamber's kit

which utility will be able to help you on retake

Not you

your teammates

Exactly

he doesn't have a efficient retaking kit for the team

which is why chamber is better to get every first blood

cause thats really the only way you can maximize helping your team

by slowing a push before it happens

[real breach]

Okay, I get your point

[jade inlet]

You got any other questions that i may be able to answer

Im bout to close this thread lmfao

bro got the special 3h treatment

people who are looking at the vod review me is gonna wonder why you have 200 replies

[real breach]

None as of right now, thank you.
What I plan to do is the following:

• Create a Chamber Playbook for Split
• Play more games
• Review more games

[jade inlet]

Definitely practice a lot more with your headhunter and/or sheriff

im not sure if whj has a playbook for chamber on split but that's also viable

ik he has one for lotus

cause he made a video

[real breach]

From what I've researched, there are only two Playbooks for Chamber from Hooj

Bind and Lotus

[jade inlet]

I could prolly create one

mainly just the tp lineups

with a bit of how you set up on defense

[real breach]

Alright, let me know when you're done. I'd be super interested to see what you make

[jade inlet]

Ok, gn

[soft skiff]

god damn u were really committed to vod reviewing this guy

[jade inlet]

Once In a blue moon I hop into a vod review and just do it