#KAY/O | HAVEN | GOLD 3

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nimble lark
surreal cairn
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Defense Notes
Round 1: They push onto site and you take a 50 instead of flashing.
Round 3: You rotate off one person and dont use the knife for info on A before rotating
Round 6: I want to see you setting up fights with your teammates more. Tell your team im going to flash out of the smoke and to swing with you.
Round 7: That flash didnt flash anything and you peeked with it. Since you missed that flash but you wanted info you could have used the knife deep grass. You took another 50 in garage when you had a flash
Round 8: I dont know what you are mollying. If they in cubby tell your reyna to push him and isolate the fight with the molly instead of throwing it and leaving
Round 9: If you are trying to push a potentially lurking breach tell your sage to push with you.
Round 10: Im not sure where you learned this kayo knife line up from but personally I think that a knife in cubby or you just throwing it is better and gets info faster for your team. This lineup takes a long time to land and by the time it landed the team could be up and just break it.
Round 12: I like this util usage. Knife to get info, retake site fast, Flash out of smoke and get kills. I want to see you use the ult at least 2 or 3 times a half if possible and try to use the ult as much as possible

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As a kayo you are trying to find out where the enemy team is pushing by gathering infomation for the team. For example if you knife C and there is 5 people there, your team can take up all the space on A and B and it is much harder for the other team to get the space back. Same thing with the flashes. Never take dry swings or 50s when you have a flash. Always try to set you or your team up for flash kills and try to make space for duelists with the flash.

smoky tapir
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4:08 is crazy. Jump hs

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I didn't watch the whole thing yet but how come I don't hear any flash coms

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Your economy management is crucial

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On round 7, 2k on a save round without being able to buy at least a sheriff is crazy

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I also don't understand why we wasted the flash

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did you think someone was going to magically lurk on garage on your save round?

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Eco rounds you should be forming ideas and playing a lot together because individually, you guys will lose your gun fights

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Most importantly you do not knife at the beginning of the round

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I don't think you under how good kayo is on haven

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3 Spots that you really only need to learn knife on defense maybe 2 that completely dictates where they are playing

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Usually 2 does the most damage because it legit clears A and covers up window

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when you get 0 knife hits from 2
it ditates that hey

  1. They are rushing C
  2. They are split C (some going grass)
  3. They could be playing up mid
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and usually you can eliminate Rushing C because the C person will dictate that outcome

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If you Do 1,
its just info gathering that they are pushing A or not
on Pistol rounds you want to auto knife

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I rarely ever seen anyone play default on pistol round, thats just goofy

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its either going to be a A hit (with at least 3+ tagged)
or no knife meaning they will push C

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Im noticing that your positioning for holding angles is bad

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2v1 Situation

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why are we not playing together with the reyna

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its planted for long

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you guys could legit play back long
and double swing on bomb tap

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you also have to play attention to the agents that you are fighting

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"Last enemy is a skye"
what are kits that skye has

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now imagine a scenario where skye walks up behind site
and throws a flash

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are you in a position of cover?

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If no one is playing backsite to watch CT

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never hold right side boxes

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you are exposed to too many angles and it just so happens that after I I mention that
you open yourself to more opportunities of death

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26 minutes into the round

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"flashing site"

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Flashing where???

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Why aren't we pre coming where the flash is landing

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Im not seeing any pre round coms
so you guys are just rushing randomly and hoping it works out

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Also who's pushing (no one). No one is going to be able to take advantage of the flash

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also this is minor

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you just knife
and it cleared garage, so why did you spray the corner 😭

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the two location you should be focusing on
is there an enemy in that corner/smoke
and garage window

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use mollys to isolate angles

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we're back at the ride side box again

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what are we holding

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what im thinking right now is how can I help jett or reyna
its a 5v4
3 of them have ults. The most likely used one will be reyna or skye

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the first person that's going to die in that picture, is jett
why? They have a breach and a skye.
Their util is going to clear jett completely. in a scenario like that,
you need to be playing with her and have flashes ready. the moment you make contact that they are pushing out
you tuck and flash then you and jett swing at the same time

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Im dipping bruh

nimble lark
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and decision making?

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@smoky tapir in my next game what should i be thinking about to avoid all of those mistakes?

smoky tapir
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we need to start from the basics and formulate a plan

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if you done a vod for whj

nimble lark
smoky tapir
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you need to be pre planning literally 90% of your rounds

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I don't know what crazy idea or stuff you want to try out but make sure the team understands it

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now if they don't follow
you can blame them

nimble lark
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is that acceptable?

smoky tapir
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as team you need to understand who's doing what

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be more specific

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Example

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Omen, I want you to go C long and blind right side of the site
Skye, I need you to come garage with me and clear it with your dog. I'll scale off it
After positioning is ready, jett I want you to dash in

nimble lark
smoky tapir
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well yes?

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every character plays a different role

nimble lark
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yeah but i don't know who would be best for each task

smoky tapir
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you want to make sure everyone knows what they are doing

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do you understand the abilities that most agents have

smoky tapir
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shouldn't that help clear your understanding?

nimble lark
smoky tapir
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I mean not really

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but I'd personally say reyna

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because jett you'd want her to push into site

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she's a agent like raze or neon that can fast push

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its not a radiant lobby we don't need to be that indepth

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you could just ask kj to push with your or idk

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but you want to keep in mind that
we should be able to play off each other
and if I die, someone should be able to trade me

nimble lark
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Now that i know how to properly pre round comm what else do i need to work out

smoky tapir
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I think learning positioning is prolly the hardest
and it effects all the way to even higher level so don't be too hard on yourself

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but what you can start off is by limiting the amount of angles you are exposed to

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using a lot of the minimap

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and understand when and where you can play your utilities with your teammates

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I'd say crosshair placement could be work on but its proficient from what I've seen

nimble lark
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Was there any point in the vod where i was positioned good?

smoky tapir
nimble lark
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so is that pretty much all i need to work on?

smoky tapir
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I'll just take this 1v1 though
I want you to be more aware of the opponents you are facing

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what are you utilities that breach has?

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how can I avoid it

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in this case I would have waited for my knifes
and then throw it to disable

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giving me a fair 50/50 chance of fighting

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cause lets say breach didn't just swing you
he flashed

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you're dead

nimble lark
smoky tapir
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its a problem that a lot of people faced

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I also do that sometimes

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but sometimes you want to be keep composure

nimble lark
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so is that pretty much it?

smoky tapir
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I'd start from there

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Im not a high level player so I can't critique every single detail

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but you can definitely rank up and improve with some of these takeaways

nimble lark
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should i constantly think about what util the enemys can use on me or my team on defense in my next game?