#Brimstone Haven Imm1

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dense quail
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Immortal player trying to understand my mistakes. My aim isn't imm but i believe my game sense is and that's why I'm here. I want to improve on the small mistakes I did to better perfect my play since my aim improves the more I play (Came from Iron 2 during beta)

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atomic dagger
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I was actually just watching this to see high-level brimstone gameplay on my least confident Brim map. But it seems to me you have some noticeable problems with comms.
Round 1: you die and immediately use your push to talk to say "oooooh..." while the round is still going on, on top of it.
Round 2: you miss the molly and then you say you're whole spiel
Pre-round 3: "We didn't delay long enough either"
Round 3: We spent so much time explaining ourselves in the pre-round that now our shotcall was late and continuing to seep into the actual round (up to 1:28 we were comm'ing the round strat that we should've comm'ed in the pre-round)
Round 4: You die and comm "Aww they're so bad", which legit confuses me because I don't know if you're talking about our team or the enemy either way it's useless and will only create trouble for you. "What happened there" same problem, translation from your allies POV "guys you can't holding site or what?". "Smoke dropped from heaven and we died" This doesn't help either. Your team is fully capable of noticing what went wrong and the mistakes they made, pointing it out just makes you look bad.
Round 5: Not about comms but last round you pointed out how the Smoke heaven dropped and you're team died but this round you're not making any conscious effort to keep an extra smoke for heaven, seems like a mistake based on what you said/noticed.
Round 6: It's great that you're catching your mistake in hindsight but you don't need to comm it to your allies, keep it to yourself.
Round 7: Could've comm'ed the molly before throwing it
Round 8: "Help me"
Round 9: You're dead it's a 2v4 and you're talking about what you should've done differently. The round is still happening keep it to yourself. "One was in this corner" that info is no longer accurate (25s have passed) and will only distract your team. "Could be to your left Phoenix", you shouldn't be comm'ing possibilities because the Phoenix could've easily died to Reyna if he switched to holding cubby too early. Then you lose and you say "NT, I would have expected it", translation from Phoenix and Sova's POV "I'm better than you and I would've won that round". OMG if you're team hasn't muted you like holy cannoli they have an Iron-will. And you continue to deconstruct the round my god, don't try to live VOD review in the middle of a game my brother.

At this point I legit had to check if this was a Premier game or not because these comms are parasitic for your team. They are borderline toxic even if from your POV it's constructive criticism.

Round 10: Ignoring the fact that Jett pushed out and you didnt follow, you say "120 on KJ backsite... ok", translation from your Jett's POV "bro you suck you didn't even hit her once Jett". "Dmg on... What's the dmg on Brim and Sova?" bruh please bruh. "Brim is likely full HP" yeah no shit, no one comm'ed dmg I'm guessing so she knows that just as much as you do. "They might ult your plant", you can just remind her Sova has his ult, she'll come to the same conclusion as you and there's no risk of that kind of comm being taken badly. "Spawn" ignoring the fact that you're wrong and he's actually backsite B or A link, you're KJ sees exactly the same thing as you, you don't need to think for her. "Brim's giving you a 1 right now", she knows that too please just let your clutch player play. "Nice" useless comm, it just distracts. "Full HP on that guy" debatably fine comm.
Pre-round 11: Stop focusing on last round just plan for the next please.
Round 11: Again you're comm'ing sorry and what you did wrong when the round is still going on, just say "Reyna backsite C" and clear the comms.
Pre-round 12: You gotta stop comm'ing "Oh I'm making so many mistakes", it doesn't look good to your allies, it's not helpful at all.

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I think you get the point, Not gonna go through the other half. All the other comms not mentioned are really good though. 👍

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Also I could be wrong but I think the left smokes are better than the right ones as default smokes on Attack/Defense for CT/Short respectively

dense quail
# atomic dagger Also I could be wrong but I think the left smokes are better than the right ones...

I understand that my negative comms are very harmful for the team. I'll keep those to myself. The reason I deconstruct the round is because I play to counter the enemy team. I learn to analyze their playstyle and figure out what we can do to make it better. Round 5 when I put the smoke garage, I know that their whole team fast rotates and I put the smoke there to delay their fast retake which it did. I'll learn to comm cleaner, It makes sense in hindsight but I can talk to myself without pressing the push to talk button.

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Also for this smoke above on A for attack, I put it there since there needs to be someone to actively hold that smoke from backsite A or they can just walk out, whereas in the other one it can be held from short, well not real from short but I mean a crossifre graffiti. Also for defence, you're probably right but I usually rat in the small pockets created by the smoke short and to be able to play in the smoke against flashes.

atomic dagger
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I mean woohoojin in one of the recent videos or streams even said:
Instead of saying "I/We should've done X" or "We died because of X"
Just say "Hey they always X, let's try Y"

dense quail
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I just recently started watching his videos and streams so I must have missed that one but makes sense lol.

atomic dagger
dense quail
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Yes I would agree I skim read your comment

atomic dagger
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it's this one

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2 days ago

dense quail
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Just today I was comming my spiel while this guy was clutching, make it super obvious that I need to shut up lol.

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Just watched the first 20 seconds, sounds like me when im tilted

atomic dagger
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it's suprising that Phoenix seemingly didn't mute you, I can't hear what any of your allies say but I assume from hearing your comms, you were still interacting with them so they could hear you.

dense quail
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Its probably because its immortal/high asc lobbies, they're willing to have the extra patience with me because we are at a certain rank where he probably dealt with someone who doesnt listen which is worse than someone who comms too much

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Both are bad

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dont get me wrong

atomic dagger
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Woohoojin 100% mutes you though

dense quail
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100% lol

atomic dagger
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Other than the comms though, on attack you focus a bit too much on abilities over helping your allies, it feels like.

dense quail
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I had just learnt lineups so I got hyperfixated on that, nowadays I usually dont play for them

atomic dagger
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yeah I saw that it was a pretty old game

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I was starting to wonder if I'd ever find it

dense quail
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I have a duo now so I just comm my ramblings and random stuff to him which works as a quick fix when Im trying to tone my comms down

dense quail