0.13 Dev Builds Issue Tracking

[hidden pewter]

So long as I don't load a single player world, it's wrong

[old beacon]

this is what i get from gh action build

[flat hinge]

That's a hell of a bug

[hidden pewter]

That's a hell of a bug

[midnight cosmos]

That's a hell of a bug

[gentle osprey]

That's a hell of a bug

[shy tartan]

That is most certainly a bug all right.

[old beacon]

That's a hell of a bug

[hidden pewter]

@me from the future: figure out what this means

I have a Solid Hunch what the bug is but I have IRL things that I need to handle now so this is my memo to self to what I need to get back to

[hidden pewter]

gtm#4141

[fallen pivot]

DilithiumThoride

Ranged Fluid Ingredients display incorrectly but only in SMP

Checked for existing issues

• [x] I have checked for existing issues, and have found none.

Tested latest version...

Oct 31, 2025, 10:27 PM

[tough cave]

?

[violet dragon]

difficulty is locked on hard, this intended?

[velvet bolt]

@old beacon @gentle osprey probably your shenanigans

[vivid veldt]

Pulling 16A ZPM from this reactor lmao

[craggy jasper]

ncn moment

[vivid veldt]

i.e. putting a converter on a reactor port creates as much power as converter can provide, idk if its ncn bug or gtm

[old beacon]

Is that single player or dedi server?

Im fairly confident it has to be what xefyr did

[granite drum]

Having troubles with porting to build 105

Got this error in the server console:

[15:04:58] [main/ERROR] [KubeJS Server/]: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: Index 0 out of bounds for length 0```

actually let me post the full log

anyway this stops kubejs recipes from working

https://mclo.gs/xPNttLQ

[old beacon]

Give me 5-10 min, I can take a look once I get to my pc

[granite drum]

Full breakdown of what i did:

1. Downloaded the builds
2. Manually copied the hardmode config overrides into the config folder (bc ive been having issues with the pack switcher, separate problem)
3. Added additional mods, the only one on the server that isnt originally supported is Rechiseled
4. Made a new instance on puffer panel, installed this build on it together with the original .12 world
5. Launched it and got this error

I'm playing on a server but ill check if singleplayer also has this issue

[old beacon]

Are you sure all hardmode configs were copied over properly?

Because that stands out to me as something that could cause errors if done wrong

[granite drum]

Pretty sure, I just copied all the files in config_overrides/hardmode and copied them over into configs

This worked for the previous version, its how i originally switched the versions in .12

but i can try again

[old beacon]

I think that should work? Make sure you are overwriting any files that already exist

[granite drum]

yeah i did that

[old beacon]

I would kinda like to get the packmode switcher working tho to be sure

If you want you should be able to download the pack-mode-switcher.sh from github, it should do the same thing

[granite drum]

yeah i had issues with it

hold on

[craggy jasper]

with the .bat or .sh?

[old beacon]

Have you tried the new pack mode switcher?

The monilabs jar one?

Take a look at the readme for mode switching, its been updated since 0.13

[granite drum]

#monifactory message

[topaz shard]

jothbot

why did pack mode switcher just make a file called "New" on my desktop

[[Jump to Message]](#monifactory message)

From #monifactory · Nov 1, 2025, 8:18 AM

[granite drum]

i used the bat one

im on windows

[craggy jasper]

where'd you run the pack mode switcher?

[granite drum]

the main folder

[craggy jasper]

the .minecraft folder of the server?

[granite drum]

yeah

[old beacon]

Yeah that should be right. The .sh and .bat files are kinda goofed and hard to maintain, we are migrating to a java version

[granite drum]

well its not called .minecraft but that folder

i see

[old beacon]

Pls do this

[granite drum]

yeah lemme do this

[craggy jasper]

how interesting

i havent seen that .13 section for servers

luckily pack switcher worked on my server

[old beacon]

I thought we ironed out all the issues with them by now but ig not

[granite drum]

no errors in singleplayer

[old beacon]

The new .jar packmode switcher works on both servers and clients

[craggy jasper]

awesome

ill try it next time i update

[old beacon]

Also allows you to do it without touching the terminal, as it can be done in the main menu or in game with /packmode i think

[granite drum]

wait really?

Like I can run a command?

[old beacon]

Should be yeah

Yes thats the idea

[granite drum]

oh shit

thats awesome

[old beacon]

I havent tested that part

[granite drum]

oh i see

[old beacon]

But I believe it was implemented

Just me personally have not messed with it

[granite drum]

nods

hmm ill try that way

[old beacon]

Keep in mind the server does restart immediately after running it

Or stop ig

I think you have to start it manually*

[granite drum]

nods

yeah thats fine

[old beacon]

I love those thats great

[granite drum]

ehuhehehhehehehe

[old beacon]

Ok im at my PC I should be more of a help

[granite drum]

I've already deleted that instance on pufferpanel, making a new one, will be bale to see how it goes in like 20-25 minutes

my partner is up (it's their server) and since they have a better connection than me it is literally quicker for me to send them the pack over google drive and then have them send it over sftp

[old beacon]

oh very interesting

[old beacon]

so im realizing xef closed his pr w/o merging, so it probably cannot be what he did

[velvet bolt]

pufferpanel? pelican panel? what's next? frog panel?

[old beacon]

frog panel

[granite drum]

lol

[old beacon]

shoot i always mess up the order

[velvet bolt]

what's next? fish panel?

[granite drum]

yeah pufferpanel is what we use to manage our servers

[old beacon]

puffer is a fish, i say that counts

[granite drum]

yeah

[velvet bolt]

oh bruh

what's next? cod panel?

[old beacon]

i used pterodactyl previously, migrated to pelican recently

[old beacon]

ig not

[violet dragon]

Singleplayer

[old beacon]

what pack mode?

[violet dragon]

Normal

[old beacon]

alright

[violet dragon]

At least now at iv its so easy to do some greenhouses + the feeding upgrade + mega torches

So its not that big of an issue for now

[old beacon]

I'm kinda wondering if thats a result of https://github.com/ThePansmith/Monifactory/blob/main/config-overrides/normal/difficultylock.json5
everything is set to false, so not sure if it goes down the line or something and somehow hard gets turned on. I wonder if we can just delete the file

Im gonna do some testing on my end and get back to you

[violet dragon]

Ok

[granite drum]

difficulty lock wasnt working for me either tbh in .12 and .13

[violet dragon]

The issue is tho it is automatically locked at hard mode

[granite drum]

yeah thats weird

[old beacon]

ok so not new problem. we did mess with some things last night so wanted to make sure it wasnt that

[craggy jasper]

every time you start the world?

[violet dragon]

It remains locked

[craggy jasper]

have u tried changing difficulty via cheats?

[violet dragon]

Nop i haven't, but im too lazy to do it as its not a need

[craggy jasper]

🤷

[old beacon]

I cannot seem to reproduce this.
there is however a lock button that seems like it would do that. any chance youve clicked that before?

[violet dragon]

Not that i know of

[old beacon]

well i have no idea what it would be otherwise

sounds like you can use NBTExplorer
to edit it tho

[gentle osprey]

Could you send over the config and config-overrides folders in your .Minecraft folder?

[old beacon]

Also, have you ever switched to HM/EM?
"shouldLockDifficulty" is set to true in the HM config, and "shouldChangeDifficultyWhenAlreadyLocked" to false.
If one were to have a world on NM with difficulty set to hard, and switched to HM, i think it would lock the difficulty, without changing it to peaceful.

Just tested it. creating a world on NM with difficulty hard, switching to HM, and reloading the world results in a locked peaceful mode

so i have no idea how that happened unless they manually clicked the lock

[granite drum]

finally uploaded the new instance

let me test it

yep same issue

https://mclo.gs/bxdeiej

@old beacon sorry to tag but have you had the chance to check my logs?

add a new issue on top

what

[craggy jasper]

this happened to me when server and client were not both on hardmode

[static gull]

[granite drum]

ohhh i see

[old beacon]

Yeah thats a packmode issue

[granite drum]

nods

okay

[old beacon]

i took a look at the previous one, didnt really know, so i decided to wait till you had an update

[granite drum]

made a new instance, didnt touch it at all, still the same issue

its on normal mode rn

[old beacon]

huh

what forge version do you have?

[granite drum]

47.4.0

[old beacon]

=47.4.0?

ok good

[granite drum]

i got these files straight from the zip file of the instance

[old beacon]

yeah im not really sure

https://mclo.gs/p2bmpfP

here are my logs

[granite drum]

damn

im using this build
https://github.com/ThePansmith/Monifactory/actions/runs/18892280330

105

[old beacon]

yeah same

[granite drum]

hmmmm

[old beacon]

my install is just the server build unzipped

not sure how we are getting such different results

[craggy jasper]

could it be the server manager causing issues?

[granite drum]

java 17?

[old beacon]

im on 21

[granite drum]

well i had similar issues locally

[old beacon]

ill boot the server on 17 and see if i get the issue

[granite drum]

hmmm maybe ill try switching the java version

okay

[craggy jasper]

if it matters im also on java 21

with everything working

so that could be it?

[granite drum]

see my client is on java 17

[old beacon]

i just switched to 17 and im booting now

[granite drum]

and that has no issues so far

but who knows

if all keeps going wrong ill revert to a backup and wait for the stable release

[old beacon]

no error on 17

[granite drum]

fuck meeeeeeee

[old beacon]

lemme reinstall my instance from scratch

[granite drum]

what the hell did i do wrong

[old beacon]

try to get as close to your install as possible

[granite drum]

hmmmm what if its the additional mods?

[old beacon]

maybe

[granite drum]

let me try deleting them

[old beacon]

just upload the server build from gh, unzip, and do nothing else

see what happens

[granite drum]

that's gonna take another hour

[old beacon]

its really that slow?

[granite drum]

filezilla is super slow

[old beacon]

lmao fantastic connection

mine goes in like 10 seconds

[granite drum]

no its filezilla

it uploads one file at a time

[old beacon]

can you upload the zip file, then unzip on the server?

thats what im doing

[granite drum]

dont have server console access

not my server

[old beacon]

in pelican panel you can unzip the file from the file explorer, can puffer do that?

[granite drum]

i could ask for it but my partner (their server) is not home rn and is busy

ummm let me see

nope

not from what i can see

[old beacon]

huh

yeah cuz i have an unarchive option

well anyways for me, a new mc server (java 17. forge 47.4.0) with just the server build from GH unzipped in the root dir works fine for me.

so i would think somewhere you differ from that, and that is most likely your issue

[granite drum]

I added the world i guess? but the whole point is to add the world in

a .12 world

im gonna try without those additional mods rn and see if that makes a difference

if it doesnt im going back to a backup

[old beacon]

Yeah i think the kjs loading is independent of the world, and the error happens before it starts loading the world so I dont think thats it

But could be the additional mods

[granite drum]

yeah im testimng thst rn

[old beacon]

Oki

[granite drum]

oh my god i think thats it

im not seeing that error

i wonder which mod caused it

[old beacon]

which mods did you have?

[granite drum]

quested and advancement plaques are for advancement plaques working with FTB quests

[old beacon]

oh wait

[granite drum]

apparently needed serverside, dunno why

[old beacon]

i think it might be compactmachines

i think theres a gh issue rn abt it

[granite drum]

oh?

[old beacon]

lemme look

i feel like i remember smth tho

i dont see a GH issue, but i swear someone was talking abt it somewhere

here

found it

[granite drum]

SICK

okay ill remove it

[old beacon]

yeah its the same error

ok yeah thats your issue

[granite drum]

Should probably add a warning that compact machines currently causes such an error or smth

[old beacon]

well we should probably just fix it

thats the better solution

but nobody answered celeste when they asked what to do abt it

[granite drum]

yeah fair

[old beacon]

we know which pr broke it

and why its broke i think

[violet dragon]

files too big for discord

[old beacon]

Not sure exactly what xef wants, but to me if you could send the config-overrides (that should be small enough to send) and config/difficultylock.json5 that would be helpful

[violet dragon]

as for the folder discord does not support sending whole folders

[old beacon]

can you zip it then send it?

its probably not neccesary tho

the difficulty lock was the main thing i wanted, maybe xef can elaborate more

[gentle osprey]

what about defaultoptions-common.toml in the same folder?

[velvet bolt]

disc*rd

[old beacon]

#2254 will fix it. once that gets merged you can readd the mod

[ancient coral]

Monifactory Issue Tracker

Issue #2254

Fix Optional Mod CompactMachines

Created

<t:1762017077:D>

Status

Open

[violet dragon]

mmmh i cant place an input and output at the same time

[granite drum]

wait, did they remove drum auto output in this version or is that a bug?

nvm its with a mallet now

[gentle osprey]

buh

Is it possible your past self just said "yeah i want the challenge" then set it to hard & locked it?

since you're on Normal Mode

[old beacon]

I guess I would still like to know have you ever switched pack modes?

because if not there should be pretty much no way anything on the pack side would have changed anything

[violet dragon]

i would have been in an insane state of mind cause i completely do not remember it xd

[violet dragon]

yes because last version was bugged when run without changing mode to the same mode

[old beacon]

but you never went to hard, just switched to normal?

[violet dragon]

anyways same thing for simulation supercomputer

[old beacon]

and do you know if the lock is new or existed in the past?

[gentle osprey]

Bug in 0.13, will be fixed in next build

[old beacon]

regardless of the cause, i think you could fix it by setting config/difficultylock.json5 to:

{
    // Sets the world game mode to hardcode mode and ignores the other difficulty settings when enabled.
    "forceHardcoreMode": false,
    // Whether Creative Mode should not be possible to select in the world creation screen.
    "disableCreativeModeSelection": false,
    // Priority 1: Sets the difficulty in any world to peaceful when enabled.
    "forcePeaceful": true,
    // Priority 2: Sets the difficulty in any world to easy when enabled.
    "forceEasy": false,
    // Priority 3: Sets the difficulty in any world to normal when enabled.
    "forceNormal": false,
    // Priority 4: Sets the difficulty in any world to hard when enabled.
    "forceHard": false,
    // Whether the cheats option should be forced to be disabled on the initial world creation screen.
    "forceCheatsDisabled": false,
    // When enabled, locks the difficulty in any world so it cannot be changed.
    "shouldLockDifficulty": false,
    // When enabled, also sets the difficulty in worlds where it has already been locked.
    "shouldChangeDifficultyWhenAlreadyLocked": true
}

then relaunching the game will (i think) set your game to peaceful

[violet dragon]

i downloaded last version, noticed ae2 was broken, asked here and got answered to change mode, i changed mode and after a while i noticed hard mode was on

[old beacon]

like did you change mode (packmode, not difficulty) to hardmode then back to normal, or just set it to normal?

[violet dragon]

i set it to normal, but i dont remember which mode was active when i just downloaded the last version

[gentle osprey]

wait so you:
downloaded 0.13
Made a new world
noticed AE2 was broken
changed mode to hard
realized that that wasn't want you wanted
changed mode to Normal

in that order?

[violet dragon]

nah

i downloaded 0.13
imported my world from the other 0.13
noticed ae2 was broken
changed mode to normal
noticed after a while the world is locked on hard mode

[old beacon]

yeah i do not see how the difficulty could have been set or locked without you doing it

[gentle osprey]

OK, that makes no sense.
I think this is just mojank in action creating yet another once-and-never-again bug

[old beacon]

or that

do you know if the lock is new or existed in the past?

like before switching 0.13 builds

[gentle osprey]

the lock's always existed

[violet dragon]

i hope that, cause i dont want to see a doctor xd

[old beacon]

no as in was it locked before switching, not did the feature exist

[violet dragon]

i never locked a difficulty in moni

[gentle osprey]

#1404887584559337684 message

[old beacon]

ok well i think we just write it off as a one-off thing

[violet dragon]

aight

[old beacon]

this should fix the issue tho if you want to fix it
#1404887584559337684 message

[violet dragon]

aight thanks

[gentle osprey]

yeah the only other thing I can think of is if the world was set to Hard but not locked before it was ported (or the porting process was messed up somehow to turn the world to hard) and then the instance was set to HM or EM after the world was ported which caused it to be locked on the current difficulty (Hard) then the pack mode was switched back to NM

but that didn't happen

[old beacon]

but even such, i tested that and it switches to peaceful before locking it
#1404887584559337684 message

[violet dragon]

i wish there would be a way to notice from a foto if its normal or hard mode

this is the moment i noticed ae2 was broken

[gentle osprey]

weird.
Yeah I'm gonna chalk this up to mojank, it's only happened once so not worth looking deeper into it.

[violet dragon]

the hunger is going down tho mmmh

[old beacon]

oh true

so probably on difficulty hard then. I dont think theres any info from the image to tell pack mode

[shut spoke]

I got locked in hard as well after loading in with the pack mode bug and switching to NM

[old beacon]

very interesting

[violet dragon]

dev nightmare

[old beacon]

oh wait i have idea

i might know

what does the difficulty lock mod do if no config is provided?

because it might just lock difficulty in place wherever it is

and loading into that broken build where ae2 broke had no config provided

so therefore locked the difficulty

[violet dragon]

[old beacon]

i think that might be it

nothing we can do abt it atp

just anyone who loaded that dev build has locked difficulty now

[violet dragon]

any ways i can fix it myself or nah? cause this is inconvenient as i would need to replace all supercomputers

good thing i changed power source just on time but hnn is still my main source for materials and im not sure how much my base can handle that

[old beacon]

#2245 is the pr that fixed it

[ancient coral]

Monifactory Issue Tracker

Issue #2245

Reduce HNN multi casing minimum

Created

<t:1761704398:D>

Closed

<t:1761714646:R>

Status

Closed

[old beacon]

you can apply the changes that it made to your files

just update kubejs/startup_scripts/registry/multiblock_registry.js

[violet dragon]

thanks

[old beacon]

yeah np

you have to relaunch game btw

[granite drum]

EMI no longer highlights ingredients used in the current craft in inventories added by sophisticated storage

it still conts them, but doesnt highlight

actually wait i think it counts them as being part of your inventory?

[runic ore]

imagine 💔

[plush cradle]

What's that a recipe for?

[craggy jasper]

looks like an attempt at an iv quad input hatch

[runic ore]

any tier quad/nonu input/output hatch

[craggy jasper]

are you saying they dont work?

[runic ore]

yeah

[craggy jasper]

cuz thats not the recipe

make the hatch first, then add the pipe

[runic ore]

yes but my idea is basically like skipping the input hatch recipe part

[craggy jasper]

ah

[plush cradle]

That's a suggestion not an issue.

[runic ore]

fair

[proud skiff]

Using a memory card to link pattern p2p tunnels causes the game to crash if it's the first time a given frequency was used (not including its creation)

[lone basalt]

After a recent upgrade

Also numis are broken, won't consume diamonds, and will no longer accept them once I take them out

[craggy jasper]

what version is this?

[lone basalt]

Latest commit of master

[tough cave]

dont use latest commit unless you're doing active development

especially since the process to set up an instance is significantly different if youre working from source or from a build

[silver hornet]

by 'upgrade', do you mean updating from an old version of the pack? or from an outdated fork? or just upgrading your powergen?
also what are the items that are supposed to exist but don't

[lone basalt]

Got it, I'll stick to my last working backed up version. I was cloning the repo, npm install, node index.tx --buildall and using those two archives

[daring osprey]

im guessing the questbook update is already handling it, but jean gas is still listed as 81920eu/mb in the quest

[craggy jasper]

this recipe seems improperly balanced?

as in like, its seriously not worth it to run this over anything else

the reason im saying this is because i think svat is cool and i was hoping to use it more

[daring osprey]

i think the point is its way faster in in the vat compared to the alternative, but has a lot more setup

[craggy jasper]

both alternatives are 15 seconds at hv and can have par hatches put on them

[daring osprey]

brewery 15s per bucket HV, SV is 0.6s for 3b at HV

[craggy jasper]

i suppose its more power efficient

but it does cost you more

the alternative is just more bio chaff

whilst sculk vat requires nearly 2 stacks of rotten flesh to put through the agar production process

[craggy jasper]

does svat poc?

because its not 0.6s otherwise

[daring osprey]

i dont see why it wouldnt, i havent checked

[craggy jasper]

usually things say if they poc

so i dont think so

at best it would be 2.5s for 3b

the advantage it has is saving on power and saving on time

[daring osprey]

they seem to push it pretty heavily in the qb

[craggy jasper]

it also consumes the bacteria petri dish

meaning the speed and energy you would save by using svat is destroyed by all the machines required to even make the bacteria petri dish in the first place

[craggy jasper]

1 agar is 30 seconds in an HV autoclave, so you wouldnt be able to run this at that speed

since 1 agar translates to 1 bacteria petri dish which does get consumed

[daring osprey]

well you would be using multi autoclave

[craggy jasper]

you would also be using multi brewery

so in reality its 30s at hv for 2b from brewery and 30s for 3b from svat

do you see what i mean?

it feels very much not worth the effort to use svat

btw

[daring osprey]

i mean i get the concept, im not gonna do the math, im assuming that was done by devs

maybe bacteria dish is meant to be nc

[craggy jasper]

i think so

but then again

its NC for fermented biomass

but not for bacteria

[daring osprey]

if its used to "breed" more bacteria, id guess they are both supposed to be nc

[craggy jasper]

i hope so

mustve been accidentally set to consumable

surely

double actually

to make the agar for bacteria petri dish in the first place requires 4 collagen

but you get 2 collagen in 80 seconds (there's an lcr recipe for collagen)

math this math that

turns out its 60 seconds for 3 buckets of bacteria from svat

all using hv (minimum required voltage for all of them) sterile cleaning room hatches for the petri dish

so you're actually producing less bacteria from svat vs brewery svat is slightly faster but at a greater cost

thats also ignoring the mechanic with SVAT where you have to have the hatch at 50% output for it to produce the full 3 buckets

so even then you'd only produce 3 buckets best case scenario (however im pretty sure a fluid regulator just resolves that but thats also more effort than just 1 brewery)

[daring osprey]

and if the petri dish is NC all of this is moot right?

I wasnt able to use a fluid regulator on its own, but we did the full SVAT bacteria process and it was working fine

didnt try the alternative

just needed fluid detector cover

[craggy jasper]

making the petri dish nc would make the svat incredibly good for the recipe

currently its the opposite

[craggy jasper]

aw

thought regulator could work

again, i want to use svat cuz it looks cool and its an interesting mechanic to figure out and deal with

just hoping this recipe gets fixed and turned NC for the petri dish or just gets rebalanced

[daring osprey]

fluid regulator works for inserting, but I couldnt figure out how to have it filter on extract

[craggy jasper]

ah

[daring osprey]

if you can figure it out that would be great

[craggy jasper]

i see

ill look into it

[daring osprey]

but it didnt seem to check the source at all

just limit the rate or output limit

[craggy jasper]

as we'll need to make hadal sculk and deal with the reduced outputs

[daring osprey]

yeah i just did all those with redstone cards and fluid detectors

[craggy jasper]

yeah thats my other thought

or using a storage bus on the output hatch to see the exact amount inside, then using a low throughput pipe, and using a machine controller on the output hatch to turn it off with an emitter when the storage bus sees X amount of output

[daring osprey]

yeah thats a lot of effort but would work lol

[craggy jasper]

whats a little bit more effort if ur already going for the svat recipe over brewery

[plush cradle]

It doesn't.

I'll leave you with two hints because I love that you're actually trying.

1. If you're smart about it, you don't need it to.

2. This cover exists (emits redstone when a machine is running)

[craggy jasper]

i get the idea

since it only checks output amount at the start of the recipe

so once its already running you can pull out a certain amount

[daring osprey]

my em run will be at SVAT in like 2 hours, so ill try it again there, but I cant imagine that solution will be simpler than this one

[craggy jasper]

that is indeed a very simple solution

how effective was it tho

since ur using an import bus

[daring osprey]

pretty much perfect

maybe losing like 5% efficiency?

[craggy jasper]

pretty good

with accel cards?

[daring osprey]

it does lose some efficiency during ramp up

but we have huge threshold level emitters

so its a negligible loss

[craggy jasper]

i see

[daring osprey]

using a huge output hatch 50% is a HUGE range

[craggy jasper]

the thing about using a large output hatch means u also need to run it at unideal rates for longer

[daring osprey]

you have like dozens of buckets before it doesnt round to 50%

i mean not really

the hatch just sits there half full

so its only upon your initial placement

[craggy jasper]

yeah but to initially make it half full

yeah

[daring osprey]

as long as its not like an MV hatch u will be fine

[craggy jasper]

thats what i meant

[daring osprey]

the threshold stuff helps with XP fluid waste more

which will be relevant in EM

nm its trivial with HNN bullshit overpowered

[craggy jasper]

yeah

thats why were on hm

once u get to wetware could you update me on if you found my findings true

[daring osprey]

this is the whole setup

its technically not perfectly efficient but..

288 is the optimal number

[craggy jasper]

thats about as good as it gets at that speed

[daring osprey]

i just got cryo in the EM run so we will see

[craggy jasper]

look into the stats and math for bacteria with brewery vs svat

[daring osprey]

i mean i believe what ur saying, i was leaning the brewery just for simplicity

[craggy jasper]

after seeing the lcr recipe for collagen it does mean svat is faster but only by a little bit

[daring osprey]

@plush cradle if you saw the part up top about if the petri dish is meant to be NC or not

i didnt implement anything other than the SVAT redstone here, so it could have been a lot of poor choices, but our sculk island is pretty chalk full of BS, and thats using HNN products

[craggy jasper]

the way it is, using svat for bacteria makes the end result of wetware boards require x3 times the amount of agar

which i would argue is half of the puzzle for growth medium

the other half being mutagen (which is where the svat vs brewery comes in)

[plush cradle]

Simple. Precise enough. Not sure it's 100% optimal, but it is 100% viable.

[plush cradle]

In fermented biomass yes in bacteria no

[daring osprey]

his stuff definitely works well enough for us with infinite resources, his complete refusal to make local lines and only use level emitters and export busses gives me anxiety

[plush cradle]

There's 2 variables to what determines the efficiency of a svat setup. Precision and downtime

My setup has perfect precision and 0.2 to 0.5s of downtime. It is, overkill LMAO.

[craggy jasper]

so svat is just a lil bit faster than brewery for bacteria at the cost of more effort?

i can understand that

but ill go for the simpler route since i wont be losing too much value from it

as itll run fully passive anyways

[plush cradle]

Bacteria is mostly a low-cost recipe you can experiment with safely. Shit gets real once sculk and biosolder happen.

[delicate ice]

hey, so that first thing of europium fine wire is supposed to be 64 like the advanced solder recipe (and pre-build 106 in general), right?

[plush cradle]

Latest commit

Might be a visual bug

Restart

[delicate ice]

sorry i only just saw this but iirc it also only consumed the two things of 32 with the regular solder, but the advanced solder recipe was still the normal consumption

[plush cradle]

Weird

[delicate ice]

weird indeed

i’ll restart and check again when i get home

[nova thistle]

steam dynamos only generate 20 RF/t is that normal?

[old beacon]

[craggy jasper]

experience attuned compound turns into nothing when centrifuged

[old beacon]

just tested on latest commit, and everything works as intended, with dynamos producing 40rf/t, and boilers & turbines producing 320rf/t (160rf/t each turbine)
can you confirm what build you are using?

[daring osprey]

its an issue with migrating old worlds to new updates, you have to move the configs over

read around here

[old beacon]

yeah i forgot some configs are world-specific

[nova thistle]

I moved the configs yesterday, it worked

[clear ledge]

Game crashes when placing any ae2 cable or cable part on the I/O side of any Redstone Multi p2p Tunnel

[06/11/2025 11:08:04 AM]     at stone.mae2.parts.p2p.multi.RedstoneMultiP2PTunnel$Part.onNeighborChanged(RedstoneMultiP2PTunnel.java:130) ~[mae2-2.0.0-beta.d.jar%23495!/:2.0.0-beta.d] {re:classloading}
[06/11/2025 11:08:04 AM]     at appeng.parts.CableBusContainer.onNeighborChanged(CableBusContainer.java:657) ~[appliedenergistics2-forge-15.4.7.jar%23371!/:?] {re:classloading}
[06/11/2025 11:08:04 AM]     at appeng.block.networking.CableBusBlock.onNeighborChange(CableBusBlock.java:325) ~[appliedenergistics2-forge-15.4.7.jar%23371!/:?] {re:classloading}
[06/11/2025 11:08:04 AM]     at net.minecraftforge.common.extensions.IForgeBlockState.onNeighborChange(IForgeBlockState.java:382) ~[forge-1.20.1-47.4.0-universal.jar%23583!/:?] {re:computing_frames,re:mixin,re:classloading}```

Tested with linked, unlinked, and a bunch of different cables and parts

Only happens on 0.13, discovered this bug because I was trying to copy my 0.12.9 world to my 0.13 instance, and that world has a lot of redstone p2p

Cant even place an ae2 part adjacent to the redstone multi p2p

redstone non-multi p2ps are fine

[plush cradle]

@cyan condor this is a known issue IIRC?

[cyan condor]

Not known actually. Very curious it always happens though. I'd assume it'd only happen when the tunnel is unpowered.

[flat hinge]

if(crash) dont();

[glacial swift]

the humble try catch

[clear ledge]

if (this. logic != null) {

has anyone else ran into this issue?

[delicate ice]

restart fixed it, but still confused how it even happened in the first place

[abstract inlet]

where do i download 0.13 dev build ? i want to do some issue testing

[midnight cosmos]

bottom of the latest moni monday; installation instructions are detailed in [Moni Monday 35](#moni-meowdays message)

[runic ore]

by the way, why the embeddium++ is not updated?

i updated this to the newest version

old version in 0.12.9 is still this one

[abstract inlet]

yes i know where to find the build and there is no direct messege about how to download it , should there be a button for it ,o r im just dumb ?

[midnight cosmos]

there's instructions

@abstract inlet

[craggy jasper]

you must log in

once you log in the download button appears

[abstract inlet]

oh my god i forgot i logged out

what after downloading tho ?

[craggy jasper]

you have a client build zip file

[plush cradle]

client_build.zip contains client.zip

[craggy jasper]

inside the client build zipfile is a zipfile called client

import that zip file

[plush cradle]

Import client.zip into CF or Prism

[craggy jasper]

ideally as a new instance

[plush cradle]

If you don't know how to do this I'm afraid I don't have the time to help you rn.

[abstract inlet]

okey thanks for the fast response 🙂

[urban stone]

Transcendental soul vials won't parallel in the sculk biocharger

It doesn't like more than one energy core inside

[pallid otter]

like the multiblock version?

idk if that recipe will with the nbt data (i should have considered when i wrote it)

sorry then, i made that recipe

[shy tartan]

Does it use .weakNBT() ?

[pallid otter]

that’s probably what i forgot

which is funny since i’ve used that before on other recipes so i knew it existed

[plush cradle]

Biocharger never worked.

We removed it. Use a couple dischargers and that should do it.

[shy tartan]

Oh right, that thing did never parlallel

Can you even use PARALLEL_HATCH (the recipe modifier) with non eu taking recipes

[hidden mountain]

Am i missing something or is pattern p2p broken in latest build? Here is an example setup I tested in creative and it matched my survival setup's results. The p2p can send items through a linked pattern provider but is unable to recieve auto-exports from the machine

[feral axle]

it appears a fair number of assembly line recipes that use liquid advanced soldering alloy as an alternative to regular liquid soldering alloy use twice as many of select components. this seems to also extend to recipes going from advanced to living as well. not certain if this is somehow intended.

[craggy jasper]

what build is that on?

[feral axle]

ahh apologies, think you can disregard all this. just checked in a fresh instance of the latest build linked in moni-mondays and the issue isn't there. i must have borked updating my instance somehow.

[abstract inlet]

after some testing some start up scripts in kubeJS dont work on newest versions of greg tech releted mods , what versions of GTCEU gtmutils gtsteamaddons gtexolegs and ulvcovers should i have and wich versions fork yor yall

[plush cradle]

Wait what?

[abstract inlet]

i mean i probably wasnt supposed to test never versions

[plush cradle]

Wait...
Did you try to update your mods on a 0.12.9 instance?

Because on 0.13 builds we use the latest version of every single one of those mods.
GTSteamAdd, GTmUtils, GTExoLegs are mods made by Moni devs, we keep GTCEu very up to date and ULVCovers is super small and also up to date.

[runic ore]

you guys update ultility mods like embeddium++ right?

[karmic sapphire]

maybe this isn't new but NEI doesn't show perfect overclocks for the LCR

[flat hinge]

i believe thats in part because it kinda can't? their recipe type system DOES allow you to manually specify whether you're looking at normal versus perfect overclocks in the recipe window though

[shy tartan]

nothing by default shows poc

you have to shift right click the increase voltage button

[flat hinge]

yeah

[shy tartan]

If I try to view living solder in emi (hover over), in the showing of the fluid outside a recipe page it shows missing translation error, and if I hover over it in recipe page it crashes the recipe renderer

[abstract inlet]

hey i wanted to play with my brother , downloaded latest build , updated gt mods and their required libs and this happened

[abstract inlet]

okey i fixed the code of some registry things in kube js now i got it booting

for the proggress bar reconstruction in the single block registry i did this code : // GT Atomic Reconstructor recipe type
GTCEuStartupEvents.registry("gtceu:recipe_type", event => {
const progressBarTexture = MoniGuiTextures?.PROGRESS_BAR_RECONSTRUCTION;

const builder = event.create("atomic_reconstruction")
    .category("reconstruction")
    .setEUIO("in")
    .setMaxIOSize(1, 1, 0, 0)
    .setSlotOverlay(false, false, GuiTextures.ARROW_INPUT_OVERLAY)
    .setSound(GTSoundEntries.ELECTROLYZER);

if (progressBarTexture) {
    builder.setProgressBar(progressBarTexture, FillDirection.LEFT_TO_RIGHT);
} else {
    console.warn("MoniGuiTextures.PROGRESS_BAR_RECONSTRUCTION is undefined. Skipping progress bar setup.");
}

})

[hidden pewter]

What version of GTM did you update to?
7.2.1, or 7.2.2-SNAPSHOT?

[velvet bolt]

why would you update anything? the right versions are in the manifest

[granite drum]

Crash when checking the Multi p2p page in the AE guide

[granite drum]

huh just crashed again

not showing me the log hold on

https://mclo.gs/9ls0NbQ

oh oh its not letting me join the server

https://mclo.gs/3OCsXXS

[craggy jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[barren spade]

difficulty switching instructions:
the capital "M" makes the tab key in bash not find the file 🙂

[old beacon]

lmao

whoops

also we could change the version number to * for simplicity

#2275

[ancient coral]

Monifactory Issue Tracker

Issue #2275

Fix Dedi Server Mode Instructions

Created

<t:1762742977:D>

Status

Open

[proud skiff]

wire cutter power tools have the same mining speed as their non-power tool versions

[shy tartan]

the benefit of electric wire cutters is the unbreaking 10 effect when powered

the further tiers of wire cutters are just bigger power buffer

[barren spade]

ooh this must stack with enchants giving you the equivalent of unbreaking 13?

[shy tartan]

ye

all electric tools are like this btw, not just wire cutters

[proud skiff]

wrenches have higher mining speed though

makes no sense for one to have that but not the other

[shy tartan]

that's a base gt idea thou, for my added tools I merely followed what they had

I can't exactly make my ev and mv wire cutters break away from that

can't change the others either without mixins

[proud skiff]

i see

[torn tinsel]

hey im having the same issue, im confused as to what config i'm moving exactly?

[daring osprey]

read that thread area

it specifys exactly the files

[torn tinsel]

i read it over multiple times. i'm seeing the systeams-server.toml in the build 100, and it is the exact same as the one in the lastest build 108.

unless it's something else???

[daring osprey]

]

[torn tinsel]

so just literally everything in that build defaultconfigs has to be moved over, not just the systeams config?

[daring osprey]

idk if you read the thread or not but its the world config files, not your instance config

only if you want the configs to be correct

[torn tinsel]

got it

[runic ore]

i think they should update other mods atp

most of them are outdated

yet on beta

[plush cradle]

Updating mods is time consuming as it requires careful review for every mod. New items that need recipes/nukelist, breaking changes, etc.

The active devs have been busy with packside bugfixing, balance and feature implementation, and we haven't had the time or energy to update mods in a while.

Any contributions are welcome if anyone wants to help by doing it now. Otherwise, this will have to wait until the last polishing phase of 0.13 development.

[runic ore]

i see though and thanks for letting me know about it

[shy tartan]

Updating non content mods is also a lot more risky

more edge cases to worry about/need server testing too

[runic ore]

Embeddium Chloride works well

no issue when i update it to the newest version

but never tested to the newest dev version (0.13)

[shy tartan]

have you tested on both sp and server with at least an 4hr observation window?

ik this might seem overkill, but performance mods kinda need it

[craggy jasper]

so this doesnt apply

[runic ore]

if only i can try it on my own but it will be risky for my current memory space

[shy tartan]

Content mods are simpler to test, as what they touch is usaly easy to see

[runic ore]

Embeddium Chloride is Embeddium++ anyway

[plush cradle]

0.12.9 is like, 7 months of GT out of date, has a whole new fucking custom addon, and has had some mods updated. Data from 0.12.9 is effectively unusable to us.

[shy tartan]

performance mods not so much

Imo we'd need a few people testing on both sp and server to actually trust updates

maybe I'm being paranoid but they are risky

[runic ore]

what's sp btw?

[craggy jasper]

singleplayer

[runic ore]

ic

[craggy jasper]

mp is multiplayer

woah????

[runic ore]

best thing i can offer in the server is aternos lol 💀

[craggy jasper]

fusion actually using the colors of the recipes

[shy tartan]

that's normal

[craggy jasper]

really?

for us they've all just been white

[shy tartan]

or at least it's supposed to be, might have been bugged

[shy tartan]

in 1.6.4 they followed

7.x seemed to break it

seems it got fixed

[runic ore]

honestly, i like this preference

[craggy jasper]

just tested

[runic ore]

feels more natural imo

[craggy jasper]

fusion colors work in singleplayer

but not in multiplayer

same world copied over from my server, same mods

[shy tartan]

ah, fair

most of my experience actually testing stuff is sp

[runic ore]

definitely has to do with server visual sync to the client side

[craggy jasper]

yeah something like that

i was just shocked seeing colors in a fusion reactor

[shy tartan]

Anyways, performance mods are scary to update as the edge cases are real

[craggy jasper]

usually its like this

[shy tartan]

we'd need a few people testing them

ram issues, leaks, server/client oddities

[runic ore]

my memory is leaking in 0.12.9 lol

each time i get disconnected

[craggy jasper]

same in .13

nothings changed dw

[vapid sundial]

hey guys sorry if I misuse the chat, but I tried to get information for 0.13 or even play it myself and have not found anything

[shy tartan]

in the moni mondays channel there is a github link where you can download (have to be logged in) the client.zip, unzip that after download, then go into cf/prism launcher and click import near the top left, then choose the zip file that was in client.zip which you unzipped

[nova basin]

pretty sure this should be circuit 5

[barren spade]

Does either have a way to keep all your client settings and just update

[craggy jasper]

your client settings are stored in a file, u can just transfer it to the new version

under .minecraft

[barren spade]

I figured that out but emi settings aren't kept there

[shy tartan]

I just move the mods and kjs files

[craggy jasper]

you're not gonna believe this

[shy tartan]

https://tenor.com/pBzwxk3wi6X.gif

[barren spade]

Not in there either I tried that

The actual layout is not retained if you move over emi.json

[craggy jasper]

i just re-add the lookup history every time

thats the only thing the config doesnt transfer over for me

[astral zenith]

emi.css in config folder

[barren spade]

I liked to change the side panes to yes lookup and crafting history and ultra dark mode

[granite drum]

The Rocket quest is bugged, completes with just the launchpad

[noble wigeon]

Not exatcly an issue, but I think this should also mention the new sterile cleaning maintenance hatch

[shy tartan]

thanki for the suggestion, highly needed imo

[runic ore]

the latest update of ATL has good QoL lol

AllTheLeaks mod

[icy loom]

I'm having this same issue after updating (auto-exports anyother inventory fine) but won't export back into p2p

[surreal thunder]

yeah I'm having the exact same issue, glad I'm not the only one

I'm using multi-p2p

[icy loom]

ok cool ill try multi p2ps. i thought i tried them but might have linked them wrong

[hidden mountain]

I haven’t figured it out yet either. I’m not sure why it’s broken now

[surreal thunder]

Sorry I should have been more clear, pattern multi p2ps are also broke

[terse crest]

good afternnon, I am trying to launch build 106 and I get this crash report

I had the same on build 107 and 108

I have three extra mods installed, redstonepen, computercraft and modular routers so maybe it is somehow related

[craggy jasper]

have u tried launching without them

[terse crest]

I'll try that now

just setting up the modpack on multimc because it is easy to just disable mods

I will not join my world if I don't have the mods or I risk corrupting stuff and deleting some blocks but I'll see if I launch at least to see if it is the issue

[terse crest]

I removed the mods

same error

yeah I have absolutly no clue now

[terse crest]

workableTieredHullModel looks to be in there so idk why it says it can't find the function

[terse crest]

please I need help I need to play monifactory to feed my addiction

[craggy jasper]

giga parallel hatch does not have connected textures (tested on multiple multis)

[plush cradle]

Yeah we know. Slated to fix Eventually™

[tough cave]

thats a lot of parallels

[terse crest]

@plush cradle 🙏🏿 SOS

[plush cradle]

Mobile rn so I can't see the report.

[shy tartan]

What did yall do to break an apperance block

[plush cradle]

This one is added via KJS lol

[shy tartan]

Thats even more wierd

Idk how to fix it, but im def looking at it when i get home

[granite drum]

awesone recipe i call "whoopsies i ated that"

[vapid sundial]

has anyone switched to 0.13 when he was already in LUV? it kinda broke everything, think makes hardly sense to continue^^

[craggy jasper]

yeah it was generally recommended that you reconsider updating if ur at LUV

since the changes start at ev+

i'd say roll back to 12.9

or try to repair everything if u really want to

but itll be a bit of work

[vapid sundial]

yeah... i try 2 more days to repair, if I think it is too much, I will roll back

[craggy jasper]

anti matter doesnt display that it has ranged outputs

all of them are ranged apparently

wouldve been nice to know

[shy tartan]

server bug

[craggy jasper]

interesting

could also just be an issue of our current build

maybe fixed in 108

[shy tartan]

It's a gtm bug

[plush cradle]

Bug is GTm side. Happens only if you log into a server without logging into a client before. Weird, and fixed in next GTm.

[molten coral]

Question about Quantum Flux. First tier: moon dust and diamonds, that's fine. Second tier: mars dust and titanite. Titanite comes from Venus, which I can't get to yet, which makes the T2 craft kind of useless as once I get to Venus I can craft T3, which is venus dust and olivine. I'm in Hard Mode, so maybe there was supposed to be another way to get Titanite?

[craggy jasper]

maybe titanite is meant to be for mercury

or something?

must be a mistake

[terse crest]

I still can't launch the pack

[terse crest]

ok I finally made it work

[craggy jasper]

is it intentional that gravity amplifier only has advanced solder as its recipe?

would be nice to be able to use living solder but i can understand leaving it like this

[gentle osprey]

It's a bug due to the solder recipe generation system freaking out at the energy core in the base recipe (it has NBT)

[craggy jasper]

ahh

[plush cradle]

Probably not NGL

[velvet bolt]

rahhh do i have to add support for that too now

[wooden magnet]

conflicting ethylbenzene recipe in lcr /duplicated circuit 1 and circuit 0 recipe
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[topaz shard]

snowooo

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[velvet bolt]

we forgot to remove this recipe 😭

[shy tartan]

thought flare did with the pr

[torn meadow]

Smore 8 is not named EightSmore OctoS'mingot

also there's no tag for ores that can be electromagnetic separatored

[flat hinge]

that is a thing with gtm itself i believe

[shy tartan]

There is a tag for the base gt ores that can be thou

[flat hinge]

wait real?

is it there for the custom ores?

[shy tartan]

Not sure tbh about custom ores, but naq 100% has it

[flat hinge]

naq is a base gt ore

but good to know

[torn meadow]

not seeing a second tag on pureified naq dust

[shy tartan]

Thats what i said.

[shy tartan]

The ore

[torn meadow]

still no electro separator tag

[shy tartan]

Whats a custom ore you think the tag would be used for?

Okay @flat hinge looking back at 1.6.4 the tag did exist. Now it doesnt

[torn meadow]

there's tags for crushed ores that can be washed via mercury, persulfate, or nitric acid, and a tag for purified ores that can be sifted, but no tag for purified dusts that can be elctromagnetically separated

just thought it was an odd inconsistency

[shy tartan]

So sorry

[patent pelican]

(correct me if this has already been fixed) data models do not collect data anymore (i updated from 0.12.9 so i still had some non self aware ones)

[shy tartan]

They start at self aware so the config is off

[patent pelican]

is there no way to convert old data models to self aware ones

[shy tartan]

could turn on the config to have them gain data

[torn meadow]

Name mismatch in the T7 miner

Damaged and stabilized referred to as dragon hunter, while normal is refered to as warden hunter

[hushed kraken]

Server continues to generate invisible sugar cane entities when you build the beginner automatic sugar cane factory with Snad, a Redstone Clock and a Vacuum Chest on a not chunk loaded chunk which will take your server down after letting it "work" for a few hours.
We only played on moni monday #41 and #42 but it happens on both versions.

See: #1424789994404446370 message

[craggy jasper]

why not just chunkload it

[hushed kraken]

Mine was chunkloaded but the one of my frient wasn't and we wondered why our server suddenly broke down after connecting the first time a day

And not chunkloading it shouldn't crash the server anyways

[velvet bolt]

lazy chunks, that's how minecraft works
my guess is that it is an issue with snad mod, which makes it grow sugarcane in lazy chunks

and when observer triggers piston, piston creates sugarcane item entities which are not ticked

[plush cradle]

That's a base Minecraft limitation as said by iluha. We can't fix that.

[velvet bolt]

you can try to find a collecting method that works in lazy chunks

(vacuum chests dont work because they wait until items get close, but they dont move)

[hushed kraken]

Yeah I'd guess this would have to be fixed in Snad to not grow in lazy chunks

[midnight cosmos]

unfortunately, snad hasn't been updated for over a year so i doubt that any issues will be resolved

[last cliff]

the machine is 5x3x6 not 5x3x5

[midnight cosmos]

i believe this is a gt issue

%t gtmi

[topaz shard]

Report issues and/or missing features for GT Modern to the repo so they can be fixed.

[surreal thunder]

Is it intentional that the quest book doesn't specify that HSS-E requires HSS-G coils, but instead waits until the next chapter to be a prereq for the HSS-S and Naquadah ingots?

[last cliff]

the recipe needs purified ore not purified dust

[torn meadow]

there is no naquadah ore mission

[plush cradle]

Fuck. HM QB error.

[torn meadow]

Also why does the quest complete on trinium, naquadria, or enriched naquadah instead of and

[torn meadow]

Is it intentional that LuV and above pumps can't be made with styrene-butadiene rings?

[shy tartan]

yes, that's base gt

[torn meadow]

weird

[midnight cosmos]

assuming you're talking about the one that requires fluoroantimonic acid as well, that's because of the way ftbquests works - that was my workaround

[shy tartan]

I wonder why ftb quests hasnt fixed thier fluid system

Nor has made an ae2 integration

[plush cradle]

yeah. FTBQuests has an in world block you can pipe fluids in for quests that use consumed fluids, but aside from that it is very lackluster.

[torn meadow]

there's the TFG method of just making every fluid quest a checkbox

[shy tartan]

Worse than the annoyance of just grabinng the bucket for sure

[surreal thunder]

SophStorage barrels steel tier and up don't auto populate properly in a pattern encoder or crafting table

[shy tartan]

nbt

%t the_voices

[topaz shard]

:warning: Tag the_voices doesn't exist.
Did you mean: thevoices, voices, voices2?

[shy tartan]

%t thevoices

[topaz shard]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[torn meadow]

I've seen this problem before in other packs

Need to manually put in the recipe

I feel like it's some weird issue between soph and ae2 in particular because it's fine in a crafting table

[surreal thunder]

Necro, but I just ran into this. Has this been fixed or looked at? While getting video for it to make a bug report, I noticed it onlyhappened when specifically the second cable is placed on the cable connected to the tunnel, but I can place stuff fine if two are placed before, then the tunnel is placed

it was the second cable placed 100% of the time

[torn meadow]

The quest for centrifuging rare earth still mentions using higher tier centrifuges for higher rates when that's disabled

[shy tartan]

Popped chorus fruit doesn't seem to have a purpose even thou it's part of a line that gives otherwise useless stuff.

Are we meant to just void it?

[plush cradle]

Good question.

Tho

That line didn't give anything worth the effort IMO.

[torn meadow]

a u t o m a t e p u r p u r b r i c k s

[torn meadow]

Also the powered spawner question mentions a capture mode that does not exist in the current version of EIO

(or maybe that's an HM thing to force the shulker shell mm, idk)

[plush cradle]

Doesn't exist anymore HOW HAS THIS QUEST NOT BEEN UPDATED YET THIS IS A NOMI LEFTOVER

[torn meadow]

amazing

[shy tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-9455237177133266270

ah dang lang

I'll fix it at some point

[torn meadow]

interestingly, right click single block break does relocate to your inventory

[shy tartan]

What are properly langed sound subtitles supposed to look like anyways

[wooden magnet]

microverse projector runs or something

ok i think machines jsut dont have subtitles

nvm i found some

"electrolyzer sparking" "chemical bubbling"

[torn meadow]

"Microverse Projects"

[torn meadow]

Niobium titanium, titanium carbide, and tungsten carbide are all on circuit 2/12 in the ABS, so they can get mixed together

request niobium titanium and tungsten carbide at the same time, may result in titanium carbide

[shy tartan]

But thats what blocking mode is for

[torn meadow]

and how do you think im integrating blocking mode to universal ac

[shy tartan]

Theres no storage bus involved so just the button

[torn meadow]

you do know how universal ac works, right?

[shy tartan]

Pattern provider -> interface -> drive

[torn meadow]

and the entire point of circuit selection is to not have conflicts in the first place

[shy tartan]

The entire point of abs circuits is that they are autogenned based on gas used

In any case

%t gtmi

[topaz shard]

Report issues and/or missing features for GT Modern to the repo so they can be fixed.

[torn meadow]

fix with kjs

[hidden pewter]

That's not what the issue at hand is. Nor should it require blocking. This is a legitimate recipe conflict, which is what Programed Circuits are supposed to prevent.

There being a conflict means that at least one of those three alloys has the wrong circuit.

[shy tartan]

funny thing is

Is that the mixer side of those alloys was fixed back in 1.6.4

guess it wasn't remembered to do the abs side

[hidden pewter]

Perhaps not. But that can be investigated.

[shy tartan]

and ofc that's not the issue at hand, but that is smth that should be reported to gtm and as a band aid fix for now, blocking

[wary veldt]

Bug: GT Nether Quartz Ore has 2 smelting recipes, one for 2 and one for 4 nether quartz.

[flat hinge]

%t gtmi

[topaz shard]

Report issues and/or missing features for GT Modern to the repo so they can be fixed.

[hidden pewter]

@shy tartan It wasn't fixed on the ABS side because those circuits are autogenerated, and C1 also conflicts.
Niobium Titanium is C1 in Mixer, but ABS C1 is Niobium Nitride.
So NbTi is on C2 alongside TiC, causing the conflict.

I can try to PR manually moving NbTi to C3, which removes that conflict.
However, doing so would create a new conflict within Moni, on Lithium Niobate (also on ABS C3). That can be resolved by moving Lithium Niobate to C4, but it means that both gtm and moni need to change to resolve this.
( @plush cradle or @flat hinge )

[plush cradle]

Isn't the autogenning supposed to handle that? Or is it not that complex?

[hidden pewter]

... The autogen doesn't recognize the conflict so I need to override it for this

[midnight cosmos]

:thevoices:

[molten coral]

I'm getting this is a GTM bug, but I'm regularly getting the parallel-hatch breaking my multiblock from processing (e.g. I have to put the parallel hatch at 1 then back up to max to get the machine running again) but only for my large wiremill.

[lyric shore]

Per the discussion here #moni-help message, there is a recipe conflict between Hydrofluoric Acid and Fluoroboric Acid.

[topaz shard]

valarnin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently the only way to make the first batch of Fluoroboric Acid is by manually filtering all output hatches of the LCR you're crafting it in to only allow that fluid, due to a recipe conflict with Hydrofluoric Acid?

[[Jump to Message]](#moni-help message)

From #moni-help · Nov 30, 2025, 5:27 AM

[gentle osprey]

Not a recipe conflict.

A recipe conflict is when you cannot avoid satisfying the requirements for one recipe without satisfying the requirements for another.

The recent message from valarnin is one: You cannot make try to make Fluoroboric Acid without supplying the ingredients for Hydrofluoric Acid. This means that when you try to make Fluoroboric Acid, your machines decide whether or not to make Fluoroboric Acid/Hydrofluoric Acid based on some weird undefined behavior.

The NbTi/WC/TiC situation is not a recipe conflict because you can make each of these things in the ABS by simply doing them one at a time. This is where blocking mode comes in - it solves the problem quite handily. You may have to multiply your patterns to match the current throughput as a consequence.

On a related note, the Fluoroboric Acid recipe conflict is fixed for the next build.

[torn meadow]

Is the HCl in the platinum-palladium leachate line supposed to not loop?

8 ammonium chloride dust -> 1B palladium rich ammonia
1B palladium rich ammonia -> 1 raw palladium powder
1 raw palladium powder -> 1B HCl
4B HCl -> 8 ammoium chloride dust

I could've sworn it was 4 raw palladium powder at some point...

[proud skiff]

speaking of blocking mode

blocking mode doesnt work with a pattern provider -> interface -> storage bus setup

im writing this here since moni has a custom ae2 fork

[shy tartan]

have you turned on report inacessible?

[proud skiff]

and its github page doesnt have an issues page

[shy tartan]

in the storage bus

[proud skiff]

i was unaware that existed

sounds like its exactly what the "problem" is

thanks

ill delete these messages after verifying

[shy tartan]

With gt inputs you can't take out, so without this the inputs can not be seen

which means blocking mode doesn't work cause it doesnt know anything is there

[proud skiff]

ok that worked

i wont delete the messages (unless you want me to) in case anyone else gets confused about that

[shy tartan]

All good

glad I could help

[soft coral]

It seems like the large boiler in the 0.13 build is way more fuel efficient than it should be. For example, a single piece of sugar cane lasts 22.5 seconds. That's 450 ticks, which is 360,000 mB of steam at 800 mB/t, which is 720,000 RF when put through a steam turbine. In a stirling dynamo, you just get 3,000 RF from one sugar cane, so that's 240 times the energy output when using the large boiler. (With a steam boiler + steam turbine you would get about 12,000 RF from one sugar cane.)

[wooden magnet]

typo in shatterD microverses quest

[torn meadow]

Sharted microverse

[gentle osprey]

Already fixed for next build

[true meteor]

Hey, I couldn't find this anywhere and I know it's questbook-related, but thought I'd raise it anyway.

It seems like since 0.12.x there was a change that made stibnite not exist on the overworld. I think the LV Power Storage quest in the Genesis section could use a note about it - it currently explicitly says that lithium can't be found on the overworld, but doesn't mention anything about stibnite (which is necessary for battery alloy)

[shy tartan]

Why does moni add an overworld stibnite vein

Base gt doesnt and seems like an odd choice

[gentle osprey]

It was for easier earlygame copper, but has since been replaced with Azurite

[shy tartan]

Fair enough

[torn meadow]

extended pattern provider can be made with an illuminated panel

[wooden magnet]

this recipe uses 15 for gas boosted and non gas boosted

also it has 8b of oxygen but it doesnt contribute to the yield, not sure if thats intentional or not

like its not included in the alloy

[shy tartan]

its in the base gt recipe

🤷‍♂️

[torn meadow]

buh

[torn meadow]

Germanium ingot has no reward unlike the other elements

iodine also lacks a reward

[torn meadow]

uhhh what

same recipe, one with and one without ciruci

[torn meadow]

old description spotted

similar case for T4

and T5

[shy tartan]

Why does this exist

[gentle osprey]

What material?

[shy tartan]

rhodium sulfate

[gentle osprey]

default GTCEu material

dunno if it's possible to remove a material property to prevent the fluid from generating :V

[shy tartan]

interesting

all these new base gt materials are getting confusing ngl

[gentle osprey]

kinda yea
I remember when Bromine was a thing 🧓

but yk
We're far worse here at Moni

the whole Certus/Fluix thing in 0.13 was a result of me discovering .setIgnored & realizing it conveniently solved some niche issue where one of the mods in Moni hard-codes AE2 charged certus for something

[shy tartan]

oooh you got setIgnored to work in kjs?

[gentle osprey]

there's a lot of things I got to work in KJS that most ppl on the GTM dev team would think I shouldn't have

and should have implemented in a coremod instead

[shy tartan]

fair

but setIgnored in kjs only seems to work with some mods

ae2 I've seen some sucess with (not my own tinkering)

ad astra refuses

wonder why

[gentle osprey]

Interesting. Luckily we don't use Ostrum, Desh, or Calorite at all
and tbh most of the things we could use it for would only cover half of the material set and would require changing the material color to not look like ass

w/ EnderIO falling in the first category and Thermal Expansion mats + Fluxed Electrum falling in the second

[wooden magnet]

ermm

[torn meadow]

have you activated your almonds

[wooden magnet]

nvm i am stupid

its not the same input lol

[torn meadow]

Just found out that same problem arises between tantalum caribde, tungsten carbide, and tungstensteel

[torn meadow]

tungstensteel to C3 is probably safe

[soft coral]

oxalic acid dihydrate dust can only be made in a large chemical reactor, locking it behind HV, but all of the other steps can be done in MV and the quest puts it after the MV chemical reactor

[runic ore]

mind to ask why parallel hatches ignore bonus chances?

the more parallel recipes you do?

I sometimes make it 2 parallel recipe to maximize the bonus chance

[shy tartan]

One of the reasons chance boosting was removed

[flat hinge]

yeah. it's a shitty mechanic and shitty to implement

[shy tartan]

Also dies on subtick

[flat hinge]

also cleo you're playing on 0.12.9 why are you in this thread

[runic ore]

I wonder if it still exists in the dev version

[torn meadow]

why do some quests ask for the whole multiblock while others only ask for the controller

[burnt bridge]

not sure if this is just an oversight or just not implemented yet but a lot of quests in the HM questbook mention hnn as a source of material instead of actual sources which could confuse people

[plush cradle]

List?

[burnt bridge]

home soon, ill send them

[torn meadow]

Neclear reactor quest should probably mention that it's being phased out eventually

[worthy tangle]

i updated my client from 2a7ffe75 to c48f9fe0 and got this warning

[midnight cosmos]

quest has already been nuked in dev
test build coming later today
-# hopefully

[surreal thunder]

If NCN is getting nuked is a recipe change for the T5MM coming sooner rather than later? I just made one and it was the first NCN thing I had to pattern for

[plush cradle]

Oh right.

On it.

[molten coral]

Crafting co-processor units past the first one seem to be missing crafting recipes. (4x, 16x, 64x, 256x)

[torn meadow]

An interesting byproduct of NCN being phased out is it deals with a possible progression skip.
NCN lets you get amerecium without fusion, and since the only fusion product the T9 miner is made from is amerecium, you can just skip making duranium and darmstadtium fusion and go straight to using the T9 miner for them.

And in my current case I could do that entirely by just trading with a villager for amerecium

[plush cradle]

No. T9 mission requires duranium drill head.

[torn meadow]

ah

missed that part

makes sense

[torn meadow]

T8.5 does not exist

[plush cradle]

Latest build?

[torn meadow]

was this already fixed?
playing on server so can't keep up with latest

[plush cradle]

I don't know. We dropped RC1 today so there's that.

[worthy tangle]

i held an energetic alloy ingot and for some reason the vibrant alloy ingot quest was fulfilled

[silver hornet]

You might have already held a vibrant alloy ingot, completing that quest but never energetic alloy so when you did that it unlocked vibrant and both got completed

[worthy tangle]

oh yea loot chests d'oh

[fast yoke]

Extended inscirber can't process wafer above phosphorus tier wafer. normal one do well.

[torn meadow]

dark soularium jetpack uses fluxed jetpack research?

[vast pollen]

Switch to stack processing?

[fast yoke]

yet confirmed, i'll do that

[pastel crescent]

I am not sure if it has been reported yet, but the "Pattern Modifier" multiply feature doesn't work anymore. Looks like this problem was introduced with the last AE2 changes (previous dev build, 110)

[torn meadow]

why is dt after 3t circuit when it needs t4 circuit

[silver hornet]

That’s a change between normal and hard mode. Nm has it need hv circuit. Should be mentioned tho

[clever pelican]

Copper lacks the ingot -> nugget crafting table recipe in normal mode

[plucky radish]

Liquid ender air has 2 conflicting distillation tower recipes:

[pallid otter]

you are on that shit the new one was like just released

[gentle osprey]

already fixed in 0.13

[plucky radish]

I've been playing the dev build and just happened to need to process end air for radon

[plush cradle]

In theory T2MM's Radon Salt should work as well?

[plucky radish]

...i just realized I only needed a hv laser engraver for the nand chip not ev.

[versed crater]

pretty weird bug

you can't configure the conveyor when there's an item in the offhand slot

[velvet bolt]

not a bug, this is how minecraft works, you are trying to place the torch

[static sonnet]

shouldn't the LV power quest be completed when you make either the LV steam generator or the LV energy converter and not require you to craft both?

[molten coral]

I'm not sure if this is a side effect of upgrading versions locally or if there's a bug in the quest book but "The Fourth and Final Tier Five Circuits" refuses to notice that it's dependency on "Multi-layer ..." is actually satistfied.

Oh, wait, huh? That's weird. The blocker is "Crystal Processing Unit" which I have not done yet, but it's showing as completed here?

Clicking through other quests, the "dependencies" coloring seems to have a mind of its own. I'm guessing this is a "FTB Quests is jank" more than any issue with the quest book itself

[plush cradle]

Yeah I noticed that during my QB review.

[silver hornet]

the colors of the dependencies are the same color of the quest title, regardless of whether its completed or not iirc

[molten coral]

Oh, I guess that makes sense.

[clever pelican]

shouldn't it still do the right hand right click if it's not possible to place the torch ?

[worthy tangle]

I ran into this bug today: #1424789994404446370 message. I followed the QB's recommendation to use a void upgrade but after logging out of the server for a few hours the server still accumulated too much sugar cane and crashed

[wooden magnet]

you can recycle laser pipes to turn rhodium into osmiridium (rc1)

[plush cradle]

@shy tartan you know how to fix this, don't you? We need a lightning quick PR.

[shy tartan]

ye

it means redefing the recipe instead of using replaceInput thou, so it'll take like 10 minutes for pr