On the unrealistic vision of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Squad

[dire yacht]

Нож - кумулятивный, контакты - фугасные

Если вы перед кумулятивной струёй полость сделаете, она нихуя не полетит, а то и не сформируется

И ваш "Нож" будет работать, как "Контакт", но хуже

[white zenith]

какая полость блять

если ты не знал есть разные элементы ножа

и в элемент от контакт-1 хуяриться вроде бы 34-элемент который

идеально туда входит

и до конца

[dire yacht]

Там 5-ти сантиметров не хватает по ширине

Для идеальных жидкостей это - пиздец, как много

[white zenith]

это 19 элемент ножа в сравнении с пластиной контакт-1, а это только 19

а 34 как раз таки расчитан на элементы от контакт-1, о чем речь

он в 2 раза еще больше 19 элемента

[dire yacht]

Сколько пластин в одном блоке?

[white zenith]

в плане?

[dire yacht]

В прямом

[white zenith]

контакт-1?

[dire yacht]

Да, в одном блоке Контакт-1 сколько пластин взрывчатого вещества?

[white zenith]

не ебу, а к чему это

[dire yacht]

В одном блоке, про приблизительным подсчётам, 4 пластины 4С20 (Контакт-1)

=> если сунуть Нож в блок Контакта-1, будет свободное пространство ~5см сбоку и ~4 см со стороны кумулятивной воронки

У тебя кумулятивная струя будет формироваться неполноценно и не будет иметь стабилизации, т.е. после формирования она сразу же полетит вниз, т.к. сечение воздуха в разы ниже, чем сечение материала коробки Контакта

[white zenith]

Со стороны кумулятивной воронки да, я щас сам убедился, но с боку о чем речь?

он идеально входит

типок сказал что военные подставляют под его, там резину

любую хуйню

[dire yacht]

Хз, погрешность

[white zenith]

чтоб он был на соприкосновении

[white zenith]

в чем погрешность

весь хсчкв погрешность?

[fading mist]

#1431349035545006251 message

[rancid ruin]

🤫

[white zenith]

и эффект по итогу не теряется

[dire yacht]

Это уже другой разговор, вы так говорили будто, просто ёбнули блок взрывчатки в коробку

[dire yacht]

В размерах на производстве

[white zenith]

не может быть, скорей та инфа из инета не совсем верная

там же внутри заряды сами

вот эти кумулятивные

они все одного размера, и в ряд идут

[dire yacht]

Idk terms of continuum mechanics in english

[dire yacht]

Короче, вот о чём я говорил

[white zenith]

ну я так и понял

просто я и сам проебался, я думал он по размеру идеально совпадает

[dire yacht]

🤝

[dire yacht]

Abrams with Kontakt-1 and T-80 with BRAT, when?

[charred salmon]

Lmao

Just saw that T-80 vid aswell

Its a russian tank tho

[dire yacht]

Quietly stolen and run off, called found it by accident

[leaden meadow]

never

we don't wont see this shit in the game

[dire yacht]

1984, no fun allowed

[leaden meadow]

Kontakt 1 dont work in the game

What about you talking?

[dire yacht]

If I had started listing what doesn't work in the game, I would have died of old age sooner

[leaden meadow]

Yeah, so just shut up and don't embarrass yourself.

[dire yacht]

Ok unknown to me brick face milsimer

[hot frigate]

It does

It reduces damage from shaped charges

I think it was 20% less damage from RPGs

[tall knoll]

IMO it should have been a T-64BV Zr. 2017 but i cant complain

[tranquil trellis]

Yeah, BV 2017 is much more of a mainstay and still roughly equivalent to T72B3 and T90A.

But I definitely don't mind getting the strongest T-series tank added to the game so far 😂

It raises the bar of expectation for other newer variants of NATO and Russian tanks to be added though.

[tall knoll]

I mean, its not a very new tank. Its a very up to date vehicle for Ukraine but its over 20 years old

The bulat i mean

[tranquil trellis]

That goes with all modernizations. They just upgrade an existing chassis

[rancid ruin]

T-84?

I dont see T-84 in game

I only see old Bulat with old engine

And 20 years old ERA

[tranquil trellis]

The one currently in game is the 2019 modernization which includes a new engine

[rancid ruin]

yes

but the engine is not "new"

[tranquil trellis]

Relikt is almost 20 years old as well. It is still better compared to Kontakt 5 equipped T73B3 and T90A

My point is that it is still the best t-series tank added to the game so far

[rancid ruin]

T-64BM2?

[tranquil trellis]

Yes

A lot of the vehicles in Squad are older variants. M1A2 baseline is a 90s era MBT

[hot frigate]

BM2 has a new one

With 1000hp iirc

Bc the normal BM was way too Heavy for the chassis and Engine

[rancid ruin]

I'm talking about the fact that back in 1978 there were plans to equip T-64A with 6TD engine

there was 5 T-64A with 6TD

so 2021 T-64BM2 is just the end of 1977 plans

[white zenith]

The T-84 has the same dynamic protection and, in principle, the same protection, especially if we take the T-84 Oplot and not the BM Oplot, which has a duplet that is simply a double knife.

[rancid ruin]

Better armor, better engine, better transmission

[wide gust]

what optics and weapons would you guys like to see in-game on the ukranian faction?
we have acess to modding the AFU faction already in the SDK and i'm making a mod to make the faction more realistic

[white zenith]

Mepro-21, ACOG, Eotech, Holosun, Aimpoint

[white zenith]

Mepro-M5

[hot frigate]

I Took some Pictures of optics

[tall knoll]

Honestly Mepro optics are kinda overstated in how common they are. They were in alot of pre war parades and some promotional stuff but thats about it

[white zenith]

It was often mounted on AK-TK rifles, and from around 2016 to 2018, these were some of the most popular sights because they were inexpensive and worked well.

[wide gust]

Mepro-21 currently in progress!

[white zenith]

🔥

[white zenith]

peak

[hot frigate]

Fireee

Where do You have all of These Models from??

[wide gust]

🤫

[hot frigate]

Eyy cmon 👽

Can you also add grips and gripods to malyuks?

Without grips they Look goofy

[wide gust]

i can add a grippod, but it already comes with a grip

[hot frigate]

Some don’t

[wide gust]

which ones?

[hot frigate]

These ones

Also M68 on Malyuk would be Epik

[wide gust]

malyuk currently has 1p78, M68, ironsights and i added the M21

[white zenith]

By the way, until 2022, sights were often mounted on the forend of AKs. It would be great if you did the same.

[wide gust]

i found pictures of this from that timeframe, and coincidentally, they had the M21 mounted

[white zenith]

👍

[tranquil trellis]

ACOG on PKM is nice. Easily better than the PKM/PKP other factions get.

1P29 was also pretty good though

[hot frigate]

Agree

[hot frigate]

Chnage 1P78 to Acog maybe?

[cloud dirge]

I think keeping some of the Russian optics would be good, I think of lot of the AFU fanboys arent realising that Ukraine is basically throwing anything that shoots into combat at the moment, if they found russian optics they certainly wouldnt leave them on the floor

[tranquil trellis]

Sure, but they are very few in number and scavenged essentially.

The AFU does have older soviet optics and a lot of western optics

Some domestic sights as well

[wide gust]

though most don't make sense
how can the AFU get their hands on post-soviet made picatinny 1P78's that are only fielded to VDV within squad's universe?

the OKP-7 also being post-soviet, made exclusively in russia, fielded only to VDV exclusively for the AS VAL aswell

[tall knoll]

they wouldnt

[cloud dirge]

You dont suppose that 100,000 Rusian Weapons might be found on the floor in say, the last 3 years?

[wide gust]

why would they use their own weapons instead of the much better weapons they stripped the sights off of, that use the same mags they field?
if it were about realism, the whole AFU would have russian weapons except for the most basic roles

[tall knoll]

Why would they be needed in a game meant to represent a Pre war ukraine?

Captured stuff is kinda silly in a game like squad

[wide gust]

squad is about the fully standard issue equipment, all the conventional factions don't depict captured equipment

[small orbit]

They really shouldn’t. In a better world they have a bunch of 74s with aftermarket handguards with Meprolight clones or aimpoints mounted on them.

[wide gust]

this is exactly what i'm proposing

[tranquil trellis]

Lots of it are either AR platforms with optics, iron sights AKs, or modded AKs with rails so they can mount sights.

Devs said they want the AFU to be modeled just before 2022 though, which means no AR platforms

[wide gust]

UAR-10 is depicted in-game as the marksman rifle

i don't think the UAR-15 is off limits

[tranquil trellis]

My bad, I forgot about that one. It was in service before 2022 though

So it makes sense within that timeline

Same case for the NLAW

[wide gust]

UAR-15 was only officialy introduced in 2023, but they've been used unofficially since 2020

[tranquil trellis]

Basically, Dev's vision is Ukraine's modernized army right before 2022.

Because post-2022 is basically adding lots of imported weapons like MG3, AR 15, Grot, Bradley, CV90, Leopard, etc.

Which is what they want to exclude

[small orbit]

Even then the mass crowdfunded modernization program for 74s was in 2016 iirc

Now I’m not saying stock 74s should be absent, they’d definitely be cool to see mixed in.

[tranquil trellis]

Javelin is actually a good candidate to be added to AFU once it gets added to the game

Since they got those well before 2022

[tidal tiger]

Russian/Soviet optics were limited in Ukraine prior to 2022, and are still very limited to this current day. Just like Russia, Ukraine really didn't adopt optics in much larger numbers until the 2020's. Russian optics also aren't seen as good alternatives(for the most part) to what Ukrainian troops have been using. Even the more common optics being captured from Russian AK-74M's & AK-12's such as 1P86-1, 1P87 and the 1P90 magnifier are being ditched for Holoson, Eotech and aimpoint alternatives, due to better quality and reliability.

The only optics typically being well used, captured from Russian forces are those taken from fallen Russian SSO operators, which have LPVO, NV and Thermal optics. Which we won't be seeing reflected in Squad. Western optics are significantly more common for Ukrainian troops beyond 2021.

[small orbit]

Meprolights were certainly present pre-2020 and from my understanding a significant amount of aimpoints and Holosuns were effectively fundraised as well as private purchased

[tidal tiger]

M21 and M5 optics have been present for around a decade within the AFU regular forces, although in a very limited capacity. The M21 itself first started seeing use since around 2009 within Spetsnaz units due to Fort 221 testing, but didn't really see use within the regular forces until 2014. Similarly Holosun, Eotech, Aimpoint and Sig optics have been increasingly in use since 2014, as the AFU transitioned from a more Soviet Doctrinal based military, to a more modernized Western doctrinal based military, post Crimea annexation - Although there still wasn't a huge optic use during this time, most soldiers were still using Iron Sights(still somewhat is the case to this day, depending on unit) and only since late 2021(leading up to the 2022 invasion) has there really been a larger surge of optic use with the AFU, due to donations, self funding etc. The M21 and M5 are more common in SSO(Formerly Spetsnaz) as they still have most of the old official stock from their armories, while regular forces are relying on self purchase/donations, as they are with a lot of their optics.

The most used optics currently are from Holosun, especially the 403 and 503 optics, a long with the HM3XT magnifier. Typically the more frontline focused units in the more combat dense parts of the frontline, such as most of the AFU's Ground & Air assault units have wider use of optics, due to much better donations and self funding campaigns.

[small orbit]

Interesting

[white zenith]

Everything is clear, but what you said about the SSO is not quite right. The SSO was one of the most elite units, and they were given the best equipment, including Aimpoint, Eotech, and other world-leading sights. I haven't seen a single photo or video, or heard stories from friends that they used the M21.

[tidal tiger]

M21 is not THE primary optic of SSO units, What I am saying is, out of all of the AFU, SSO units have the most of them(still limited in number), due to access to old stocks from over a decade ago that were being used with the Fort 221's. SSO units currently are mostly using Holosun, Eotech, Aimpiont, Sig and Vortex optics.

I have friends currently serving in the LSSG SSO, a long with family in 3rd Assault, it's where my information comes from. You can find SSO with M21, M22 Pro and other Metpro optics with a simple google search. Either way, this is irrelevant as Squad is representing regular force, not SSO.

[small orbit]

I think a very cool idea would be a future update adding the TDF and Russian Naval Infantry which could embrace the more archaic and “whacky” equipment Russia and Ukraine used throughout the 2010s

TDF could get stuff like DP-28s and other odds and ends rifles and SMGs, Russian Naval Infantry would be rocking a mix of older camos and equipment and stuff like wood-stocked RPK-74s. Neither side has much for optics.

Personally if I was going to have any post-2022 equipment I’d have them with the TDF just to give them something to balance out their more primitive arsenal

[hot frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233638887532920875/1297368325839654943/togif.gif

[hot frigate]

yeah post 2022 TDF would be kinda cool

with all of the makeshift stuff

[hot frigate]

do you have plum AKS-74?

[wide gust]

i'll see what i can do about it

[white zenith]

By the way, it would be very cool to see a standard AK-74 assembly according to ATO standards from 2014 to 2018, an AKS-74 with a GP-25 and a 45-round magazine.

[hot frigate]

OMG

yessss

perfect for SL

ermmmmm

[white zenith]

Well, this AK gives hope.

[tranquil trellis]

These are skins?

That looks to be AK12 I think?

So VDV skin

[white zenith]

I hope this skin is already on the model, and not that the skin supposedly adds a new stock,, because if so, that's just awful.

[white zenith]

Its AK-74

[tranquil trellis]

AK74 is wood though. This is supposed to be a skin of a modded AK74?

[white zenith]

yes

[hot frigate]

its not an AK-12 lol

donbas.drip

[white zenith]

By the way, I still find it very funny that when they updated the irregular militia and everything they added specifically for them as a unique faction, now with the release of Unreal Engine 5.5, they removed everything that was created for them and gave it to others, even though everything looked as authentic as possible.

[hot frigate]

Frrr

[small orbit]

What are those helmets

[shrewd pewter]

Ah yes... Make the AK-TK a paid skin.

[hot frigate]

GG

[hot frigate]

no idea lol

[white zenith]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[hot frigate]

OWI Moment

Cant Lie

[tranquil trellis]

Still buying it. lol

Those skins are sick

[next root]

I wonder if it'll get a new icon to reflect the new model? Up to this point the skins have been extremely minor model changes (like suicide cartridges on MEI guns) that wouldn't even be noticeable on an icon.

[dire grove]

I think all kits should have at least two variations of equipment, first soviet made guns AK, PKM, SVD, AKSU, AKM, RPG. And the second variant its a EU-US guns, M4,M4a1, SCAR, M240, M249, M110, AT-4. This will reflect the versatility of the faction and its transition period from the Soviet past to the European future.

[grave pendant]

OWI said, in this facebook post, they might add more modern battlegroups with western equipment: https://www.facebook.com/JoinSquad/posts/-we-recently-announced-that-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine-are-joining-squad-later-/1788330035275261/

Q: Any other future plans you can share?
A: We can't confirm this yet, but in future updates, more specific battlegroups focused on post-2022 operations, utilizing western-supplied equipment, may be added, as well as a potential minor faction focusing on less conventional aspects of the Ukrainian armed forces.

[dire grove]

It bothers me that there are too many "ifs": "We can't confirm this yet," "it may be added," they added some modern equipment to the militia, which, in my opinion, this faction should not have. But they can't add this for regular troops, they add Malyuk, which for the most part is a weapon for special forces.

[grim jasper]

yea the faction is a bit all over the place ngl

IMF faction has a huge identity crisis

originally they looked like Chechen militants: old AKs and soviet equipment/uniforms, then they updated them into a Serbian militia and gave them M4's but kept everything else the same, now they're making them a 2014 Russian militia, but with AS-Val/VSS/AK-12/AK-101?? it makes no sense

[leaden meadow]

They need to remove the AS-VAL (this weapon is actually issued to airborne commanders), the AK-12 (old rebels can't have modern weapons), and the AK-101 (the same as the AK-12).

[grim jasper]

yeah, especially the AK-101, im pretty sure it hasn't been used by Russia at ALL

for it to make sense they would need to tweak the mag and make it either AK-103 or AK-74M zenitco, and even then it would be a huge stretch

[strong hemlock]

Of course it wasn't because it's in fucking 5.56.

[grim jasper]

yea lmfao

AK-101 needs to be only WPMC

[crisp orchid]

AK-101 should be removed completely

there is no reason for that gun to be in the game

and frankly WPMC was a mistake

and so was the PMC-ification of the irregular militia

and the new stupid canadian rebel faction

[grave pendant]

which is funny because when they first released WPMC it had 5.45x39mm magazines. So at the very least they could change the IMF to use the 5.45mm mags they originally modeled, but yeah I don't think even that would fit with IMF.
Source: https://www.joinsquad.com/updates/squad---v8-2-release-notes

[grim jasper]

Eh idk it's definitely quite fictional but I really like the weapon

[small orbit]

I don’t mind the AK-101 in the WPMC.

[grim jasper]

WPMC is good but yeah the CRF kinda sucks because it's like 98% the same as WPMC

[small orbit]

The CRF could be much cooler with a tweaking of its arms selection

Too many ARs for starters, replace them with like Type 81s, Vz.58s, and the C1A1

[grim jasper]

CRF could've been great if they actually put effort into it

Instead of adding a few guns, a new IED and tweaking the uniforms a little

[small orbit]

Hell I would’ve even have gone as far as to limit automatic weapons to the SL and MG

Also why just Glocks? The Browning Hi-Power is RIGHT THERE

[agile moat]

i think you're playing the wrong game for you, dude

[small orbit]

It's a fair complaint. The modern Irregular Militia feels... off. If they were explicitly Donbass Militia, especially with the introduction of the AFU, I would have less issue

[hot frigate]

No

[cloud dirge]

CRF is just the North America Answer to MEI

So just like MEI has most of its weapons from Russia/IMF, CRF has most of its weapons from WPMC and Canada

[small orbit]

Which is dumb

They could be infinitely more interesting

[cloud dirge]

Define Interesting

MEI could be more interesting

Could give them Captured US Tanks like Islamic state did

But then your creasting a major faction instead of an insurgent faction

GRNFOR is supposed to be a mix of BLUFOR and REDFOR

[small orbit]

For starters, Canada has banned ARs and AKs for a relatively significant amount of time. This resulted in guns like the Chinese Type 81 and Czech Vz.58 being particularly prevalent choices for semi-autos in Canada, especially thanks to the availability of cheap chinese 7.62x39. They also could have added the C1, the Canadian Fal, and more importantly the C2, the SAW version of the C1. I appreciate the Lee-Enfield, but I think the M1 Carbine is a bit of an odd choice because afaik M1 Carbines are relatively scarce in Canuckistan and I think a stock SKS would be a better choice.

[hot frigate]

Dude. That is Not interesting

That’s boring

GE ahh slop

[cloud dirge]

I agree, im not the one wanting to make them more "interesting"

[hot frigate]

They should get T-72As or Bs

or homemade Variants

[small orbit]

I don't mind a small presence of ARs, but I think they should be captured C7s and C8s in specialty or SL roles.

Tell me this isn't cooler than another FN Minimi

[cloud dirge]

It isnt cooler than a minimi

[shrewd pewter]

This is preferable to another Minimi

[agile moat]

militia rn very much sells the idea of being eastern ukrainian separatists. Not sure what feels off about it. They been stripped of all nato weapons(minimi, fal and m4s) for that reason.

[cloud dirge]

Your comparing a 20 round mag Battle rifle with a 200rnd belt fed machine gun

[small orbit]

30-rounder with all the oomph of .308 and mobility of an RPK

[cloud dirge]

Give em a bren gun then

Surely plenty of those floating around in Canada still

[small orbit]

The Bren Gun isn't distinctly canadian, although I also don't mind that

[cloud dirge]

The Canadian Army used the Bren for decades

But were digressing from ARF

[small orbit]

The Bren is also a proper MG, weighing over 20 pounds whereas the C2 weighs probably no more than 14 pounds

I'd honestly like the Bren as an alternative to the FN MAG in the MG role and a C2 as an alternative to the C9 in the SAW role if those must be kept

[crisp depot]

Honestly I prefer CRF to WPMC ngl

But we've strayed too far from the point I'm afraid

[sinful raptor]

The Bren was an LMG of its day, though probably more analogous to the MAG58 today.

[white zenith]

Well, by the way, the faction plays very well and feels fresh, I would say.

[wide gust]

is the fort-500 shotgun fielded in any capacity?

[lyric ravine]

in reality? I think only by police and police sof. And generally speaking i think shotgun is used only vs drones

dont take my word for it though

[wide gust]

thats what i thought, because i think a shotgun for the raider role would make a lot of sense
you can use it against drones and in close-range

[hot frigate]

raider could get RKG-3s

maybe?

they used them in 2014

[lyric ravine]

i honestly dont know what raider needs to get to become viable. generally speaking its worse version of rifleman(

i kinda like the idea of ladder but thats somewhat very situational in a lot of maps

[wide gust]

raider C4 like project reality would be too strong right

[small orbit]

Give the raider more grenades than you can shake a stick at

[wide gust]

some soldiers in ukraine carry 8+ grenades, that would make some sense
though can't the rifleman throw out more if he uses his ammo?

[lone drum]

Is this a mod?

[wide gust]

yes, a mod i'm working on

[tall knoll]

so much better honestly

[hot frigate]

INSANE

where do you get the Models from?

[lyric ravine]

Those and the one above are awesome)

[shrewd pewter]

Seeing this makes me angry at OWI, because once again a modder has to come in and provide the content they should be bringing to the game.

[hot frigate]

Frrrr

[tranquil trellis]

Devs should just pay you to make these changes ngl.

[hollow breach]

It’s your work?!

[wide gust]

yes

mepro optics on handguard rails

[hollow breach]

No fucking way, u have talent bro

DEVS U MUST SEE THIS

DEEEEVSSSSSSSSS

[hot frigate]

Frr

The AKS-74 in Plum is sooo sexy

And the 3d Model has insane quality

so much better than the Squad AKs

[hollow breach]

missing the Fort-600, and more mm-14 covers for helmets - that would be 100% perfect.

[lyric ravine]

i almost want to ping someone but i will get muted/banned for that xd

[hot frigate]

Do it

For us 🤣

[wide gust]

👀

[lyric ravine]

jokes aside it's awesome. @wide gust create a seperate topic with those models

i will push it every few days)

[grizzled obsidian]

Arent these just ripped models from tarkov while the remaining parts are the squad ak? the mag and handguard are definitely from tarkov

[hot frigate]

https://militaryland.net/article/ukrainian-faction-in-squad-all-mistakes-listed/

Peak

No 92nd Brigade is a Crime 🥲

Would be dope if you could change that somehow

[hollow breach]

I dont believe, don't give me hope...

[hot frigate]

Fireeee

[small orbit]

Interesting that the BTR-3 is used by one of the units modeled in game

[hot frigate]

Yep

Also Crazy how UA has no BTR-80s in Game

[wide gust]

plum aks replaces every AKS-74

i will be making a plum fixed stock AK-74

[hot frigate]

Crew man should get AKS-74u IMO

[wide gust]

based off t hese pictures

[hot frigate]

Can you give UA a Zu-23 and SPG-9 aswell?

🥹

[wide gust]

Fort-230? 👀

[hot frigate]

👽

Fancy weapon

Idk how realistic

[wide gust]

wasnt a thing in 2022 right

[hot frigate]

Idea : SL crewman gets AKS Plum, normal gets AKS-74u

Pilot gets AKS-74

Plum

Or U idk

[wide gust]

should everyone get fort-12 or only SLs and the rest get makarov?

[small orbit]

I mean I don’t mind a showcase of indigenous Ukrainian designs, but at the same time it’s a weird choice not to have a BTR-3 where one would fit very well

[small orbit]

I think SLs should get Stechkins

[wide gust]

APS for crewman SL, raiders and scout

or the APS gets given to the aks-74u SL class

[hot frigate]

https://youtu.be/vD6jo_CnSPw?si=JK5TYEB7aBpLioua

[small orbit]

I think an APS would actually be super cool as a sidearm to a Raider

[hot frigate]

https://youtu.be/uCjY1xeL5qU?si=yH6UgWiex_dpu-OG

Good Videos

[small orbit]

And instead of a Krink as the main arm a gucci’d AKS-74 with RPK 45-rounders would be cool

[hot frigate]

Everyone

[wide gust]

i've been using the Skorpion, but it's very slow to equip, i will make a stechkin

[hot frigate]

From scratch

??

[wide gust]

like so?

[small orbit]

The way I imagine it is this guy carries more close quarters firepower than anyone else, loaded to the gills with grenades and able to whip out the stechkin as a backup

[hot frigate]

SL CREW : AKS-74
CREW : AKS-74U
Pilot : AKS-74u

Imo

[small orbit]

Yeah

[wide gust]

VOG-17 grenades, RGO grenades and F-1s, maybe 2 of each?

[small orbit]

F-1s and RGD-5s I think

Maybe RGOs

[wide gust]

i will be making the RDG-M smoke grenades

they are basically RGD's but for smoke

i can't believe it isn't already in the game

[hot frigate]

https://youtu.be/NMuNAA6iKqg?si=x8pB052eGGRLvM1l

Good Video

[small orbit]

Maybe the way to balance it is have him only have like two or three reloads of 45-rounders for his main weapon.

He’s geared towards a decisive, incredible burst of violence instead of a prolonged fight

[wide gust]

keep in mind: rifleman gets 180-210 rounds
2-3 reloads would be 90-135 rounds + all the extra firepower from the machine pistol and grenades

[small orbit]

Almost half the rounds

The Stechkin would have a single spare mag

[wide gust]

some are very over-kill, like 6 mags for the aks-74u + the skorpion with 10 mags

[small orbit]

This is why this guy has more grenades than you can shake a stick at

[hot frigate]

Will You remove the C-90?

[small orbit]

Every available inch of his player model’s chest rig should have grenades strapped to it

[hot frigate]

And replace with RPG-7 PGO and RPG-26?

[wide gust]

like so?

[hot frigate]

RGD-2 smokes where very Common

[small orbit]

Yeah, but with a plate carrier

[wide gust]

im not too sure about launchers

[small orbit]

I think the SL and Raider should get the option of a Stechkin, and the Fort-14/Makarov is just kinda scatter around with everyone else

[hot frigate]

Will you add an AKM? Or AKMS?

With Bakelite mag?

[hot frigate]

Yes. Stechkin for SL and Raider

And Fort for the Rest

No Makarov

[hot frigate]

RPG-7 irons
RPG-7 scoped
RPG-26

[small orbit]

I feel like those are best saved for TDF

[wide gust]

this will be coming

[hot frigate]

AKMS with bakelite would be cool

TDF?

He making a new sub faction)

?

or wdym

[small orbit]

I have seen very few AKMs or other 7.62x39 firearms in use with non-TDF forces even at the beginning of the conflict

If this is supposed to be the Ukrainian Army, I think sticking to 5.45 is best

[hot frigate]

Yeah prob Right

[hot frigate]

You should work with the devs from Supermod

They Are Making a 2020 AFU Version and your work Looks really good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960584250795642951/1373011424774848692/absolute_andzei.gif

[wide gust]

i just talked to one of them

[hot frigate]

Nice

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👀

[hot frigate]

👀

Cant wait to play it)

[shrewd pewter]

I was going to say the same thing to him XD

[hot frigate]

hehe

[tidal tiger]

AKM/AKMS rifles are still common in the AFU, outside of TDU and NG units. You'll typically find those within them in frontline units, having either N upgrades(adding receiver with dovetail) or TK upgrade package. The AK74 platform is in much wider use, but the AKM is still common. The AK-TK 7.62 can be mistaken for an AK74 variant, especially AK-TK 5.45 since they share mostly same parts, main telltale difference is the mag well and the magazine.

[rancid ruin]

womp womp

[rancid ruin]

cmon bro

we already have too much AK-74U for crewmans

[small orbit]

Got any good pictures or footage of Ukrainian Army soldiers with AKMs you could share?

[tidal tiger]

Here's some images, all within frontline units, from assault, air assault and mechanized. Can't share footage, due to the violent/gorey content.
https://imgur.com/a/WMWK4DY

[small orbit]

Gnarly

[white zenith]

🤩

[strong hemlock]

I like how you can just change the flag and the armband and it can be a photo of Russians.

Multicam ruined everything.

[hot frigate]

How can I download this masterpiece?

[hot frigate]

Do you have this for other weapons aswell??

[wide gust]

this AK-TK is very intresting

i've seen a lot of them and i have the exact stock thats on it

[hot frigate]

https://youtu.be/Wzygylq8XQM?si=yOaZmnzjpGiWRY45

very good timing

[tidal tiger]

It's a highly effect camo pattern, so not surprising how much MC & MTP are being adopted globally. To a keen eye, you can spot the differences in each pattern micro variance, and difference in color tones. But in a combat situation, not so much haha.

[tidal tiger]

You should be able to just share the link, or right click each photo and save them to your PC.
and yes, I do have a lot of references for differing weapons. Some sourced online, some sources through personal contacts.

[sinful raptor]

Multicam made everything less stylish. My jellybean!

There was a time where there was a tactical advantage to dressing extravagantly, oh to have that again…

[visual bridge]

Fort-221 suggested?
Unique weapons rather than the same thing again and again?
Ts peak

MBT should have been oplot

[white zenith]

The TAR-21 was in service with the National Guard. Why was it needed? Even the Malyuk is more common, and the Oplot is nonsense. There are literally only eight of them, if we take the Oplot and not the BM-Oplot, of which there are only two in Ukraine. It's complete nonsense. The T64BM Bulat was the best option.

[rancid ruin]

опять же

12 Т-64БМ2

10 Т-84

в чем разница

[visual bridge]

Sprut was added despite being produced far less (relatively)
Its not about production its about iconism and gameplay

And the FORT-221 and Fort-224 are perfectly fine additions to ukraine which saw frontline use by the ukrainian military

[rancid ruin]

also a GL version

[white zenith]

Та они дураки слегонца и т64бм2 добавили, но эти почти что тот же т64бм булат, все равно логичней намного чем оплот который на фронту реально 1 раз появился на харьковском направлении

[rancid ruin]

это ты зря

[white zenith]

А Булат с самого ато и по сей день воюет активно

[rancid ruin]

интересно как танк 2021 года мог появится в 2014

[white zenith]

Ты про какой бля

Про т64бм булат?

[rancid ruin]

т-64бм2

[white zenith]

Та похуй на этот т64бм2, это по факту мелкая модернизация обычного булата

Что там добавили, новый движок, какие то кумулятивные решетки около мотора

Лестницу небольшую по гуслям взади

И закрыли листом брони нсв?

Я тебе про т64бм вообщем говорю

В теории все т64бм булат можно было переделать в т64бм2 если бы не война

И на сколько я знаю по началу даже начала войны так и делали

[rancid ruin]

нет дружище

мы говорим про игру

[white zenith]

Так ты сам сначало приводишь в аргументы реальную жизнь, и теперь про игру говоришь

[rancid ruin]

да

я говорю что добавлять оплот это логично

ты начинаешь нести хуйню про булат какой он там великий и воевал везде

у нас фракция 2021 года поэтому добавлять оплот еще логичнее

[white zenith]

в чем логичность, ты сам себе противоречишь, если оплот до 2022 ВООБЩЕ не светился на ато допустим

То булат с самого начала

В чем логичность добавлении оплота

[rancid ruin]

а причем тут АТО?

[white zenith]

Так я не понимаю, каждая фракция делается на основе каких о реальных фактов и данных

[rancid ruin]

он не использовался в АТО по понятным причинам

[white zenith]

Так или иначе

[rancid ruin]

но это не значит что он в армии не использовался

[rancid ruin]

делается на основе того что есть на вооружении

оплот есть на вооружении?

есть

[white zenith]

Ну давайте выдадем всем фракам вооружение которых по пару десятков, америкосами абрамсы какие сеп-в5 или абрамс-х

Русским арматы с т90м и т15

Украинцам даже бм оплот, потому что эти 2 бедолагии на вооружении числяться

Британцам челленджеры 3 которые только еще на выставках но уже на вооружении

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Wish I could read ts

[white zenith]

И будет модовое говно

[rancid ruin]

еще раз 2021 год

[white zenith]

Ну у Русских еще с 2015 или какого то там армата существует в размеере 20-30 штук

[rancid ruin]

я говорю про оплот потомучто разрабы решили сделать упор на уникальность а не количество

если бы разрабы сделали Т-64БВ или Т-64БМ

я бы не говорил про логичность добавления оплота

[rancid ruin]

5*

[white zenith]

та если бы про уникальность говорилось, то они бы и дали как раз таки форты, ак-тк, оплоты, бтр-3 разные и та далее

[rancid ruin]

да

потомучто ленивые

[white zenith]

А так дали то, что по факту было на момент 2021

[rancid ruin]

т-84 был на момент 2021

[white zenith]

В чем ленивость? Ну она тут тоже играет но это не проявляеться в том что украине все равно выдали т64

потому что один хуй ты делаешь модель т64 или т84

это было осмысленое решение

[white zenith]

та я тебе больше скажу, т84 оплот еще тоже с 90 существовал

[rancid ruin]

ну вот

[sinful raptor]

Wouldn’t be opposed to a single T-84 Oplot in the armoured battlegroup

So that it’s there but not as a primary tank

[white zenith]

Вот да, в качестве танковой деки

Это заебись

Но не вместо булата

Вместо булата это долбоебизм полный

И не логичный

[rancid ruin]

никто и не говорил вместо булата

[white zenith]

Так а разве гунер не начал с того что они дебилы что не добавили оплот впринцепи в игру вместо булата и форты для разнообразия и типо потому что "культовое" вооружение украины

мне вообще кажеться что тред теряет актуальность птому что обнова вышла ,а все что они за анонсили по поправкам это малюки на семёрках и пятерках натовских, и прицелы натовские

они 100% ничего нового не добавят теперь хоть об стенку будем биться

[rancid ruin]

я майдан устрою если форт-221 не добавят

[white zenith]

было бы прикольно чтоб нгу кстати добавили как отдельную фракцию

типо как с вдв

вот туда и форт можно было бы добавить, и кстати уникальные танки т64б1м исключительно которые у нгу были

бтр-3 тоже

[visual bridge]

Yo can yall fill me in I dont understand this

[rancid ruin]

idi nahui

[white zenith]

It would be cool if they added the NGU as a separate faction.
They could add a fort there, and also the unique T64B1M tanks that only the NGU had.
The BTR-3 too.

[tidal tiger]

As previously warned, keep all communications in English.

[white zenith]

so sexy 🤤

[lyric ravine]

same as mentioned before many times, in game like squad reality doesnt matter that much, gameplay does and uniqueness with wider variety of Ukraine produced weapons is better then reusing old assests that are already in game. But at least we will get somewhat logical scopes instead of russian 1p78 from 2012

tbf im quite happy with armor, but just wanted to see somewhat more rifles) AK is cool in terms of gameplay of course but still

[next root]

It's like the short-stroke piston-driven AR, a great platform, but generic as hell. From the perspective of the real world it makes sense, but for a video game the proliferation of multicam and the piston AR is very boring.

France - FAMAS F1 to HK416F
Germany - G36 to G95
Finland - RK 62 to SAKO ARG S 40 (though this one is direct impingement)
Sweden - Ak5C to Automatkarbin 24 (same gun as Finland)
USMC - M4, M16A4, and M249 all consolidated to the M27

Hopefully the version of the French that are coming to the game are equipped with the FAMAS platform, OWI would be insane to give them solely the 416F. If they are collaborating with TC, they even had the FÉLIN and Valorisé modeled.

[visual bridge]

All roads lead to HK-416/417 and multicam

[lyric ravine]

offtopic but i have no idea why or how, but for me France and famas association are so strong xd i guess only ak and su and m16 and usa are in the same boat for me

[tranquil trellis]

The AR platform is being standardized because it has pretty much been perfected over decades of war.

Very customizable as well and has a rock-solid supply chain.

The fact that multicam is starting to be adopted even by adversaries is a testament to its ability to perform in the widest possible range of environments

[visual bridge]

Yeah but squad ideally would add factions in their state before they became more "US reskins"
So germany would be with their G-36s
France with Famas
Nordic countries with whatever they produce local
IDF with tavors
Iran without their M16s etc

[fading mist]

Off-topic correction, but ARG S 40 is Finnish semi-automatic reservist rifle. 40 GP (gas piston) and 40 DI (direct inject) will enter to the Finnish service around 2030. Swedish Ak24 is ARG 40 GP

[next root]

Thanks for the info!

[strong hemlock]

Ordinary Ukrainian way of solving problems.

[strong hemlock]

T-84 started as the Object 478 in fucking 1976.

[hot frigate]

Malyuks in the Big 2025s