Iran faction rework ?

[vernal wave]

should Iran get his own military vehicles and weapons instate of copy and paste weapons and vehicles ?

[glacial plaza]

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[rocky patio]

It's already using it's own vehicles and weapons. More isn't a bad thing of course, but the only things they don't actually use irl is the MTLB and BRDM, I think.

[vernal wave]

no you are wrong they use both of them last time i saw BRDM was in the street they used it against protesters, about the MTLB i saw it in iranian documentary that was about iranian ground forces

[rocky patio]

I don't know that much about their equipment, I could definitely be mistaken. Those images aren't of a BRDM-2 though, no? Looks like the same turret, like the BTR-60, but different chassis

the middle one is different, I think it's the Rakhsh?

[vernal wave]

this is the closest picture i could found

[rocky patio]

I would believe they might have a few lying around, but I don't know that means they exist in enough numbers or are owned by the ground forces

[vernal wave]

and about MTLB they dont have the exact same thing, they have something that look like MTLB

[rocky patio]

Ok yeah I mean the literal vehicles

I would be for their indigenous variants replacing the ones in game

[vernal wave]

devs are lazy

they only can copy and paste

[rocky patio]

idk, my guess is they might revisit GFI at some point to address this stuff

But I think other factions are also a priority more than the revamp

I definitely wouldn’t have wanted them to remove them and leave them with nothing or anything, so if this is the compromise its fine

I like the real camo and authentic kit selections, though I do lament the loss of some G3 kits

Particularly I miss bipod G3, would be nice to get a autorifleman with it even without the drum mag

It's not the strongest kit or anything, I'd probably still just take Rifleman over it any day, but it's not a terrible option for some people

[quartz pilot]

Way too much work for the OWI dev team

[rocky patio]

Yeah I mean I don’t expect it anytime soon

[pulsar delta]

the pictures you posted are NOT BRDMs, theyre a weird mix of Iranian APCs,
the vehicle in the first and third images is called the Sarir/Tala'iye APC, used by the IRGC but is reportedly not in mass production, the vehicle in the second image is a variant of the Rakhsh APC a vehicle actually in use by the Iranian military

From what I can find the Iranian military does not use any BRDM-2s and MT-LBs in service, let alone have they procured any such vehicles

BRDM-2 for reference

[patent stirrup]

iran is by far the worst faction and definitely needs a buff even if squad adds fake tanks or cars or weapons that are barely in the iranian military id still think thats worth it.

iran should have a different airstrike command imo. ballistic missile and its not that powerful doesnt have a large radius/length but it comes really quick from the call for it. maybe like half of the time of a regular airstrike. think that would be unique cool looking and a buff since you can basically guarantee an airstrike will hit a tank under it.

unrealistic sure but i mean i dont know.

[glacial plaza]

But those were mostly put down by the IRGC I believe right?

[rocky patio]

This is a very incorrect take

Iran is one of the better factions, but even being pessimistic it is at least better than VDV and TLF by a country mile

[patent stirrup]

i would personally vote for every faction over iran. its the worst faction

[rocky patio]

You are so wrong it hurts

[patent stirrup]

there is a reason why before mea and now iran never get voted no one likes playing it

[rocky patio]

It’s not because public players understand anything about balance

[patent stirrup]

brother if it was a competitve match i would vote for insurgents...

those are seriously overpowered in the right hands

[rocky patio]

You would be wrong

Again

You really don’t understand what makes factions strong if these are your takes

[patent stirrup]

i wont. suicide bikes suicide drone. a ton of anti tank alot of grenadier kits. alot of vehicles in general. its an absolutely over powered faction

[rocky patio]

lol

Okay well you seem pretty set in your opinion but your take is extremely backwards

[patent stirrup]

alright objective reality person!

really good counter argument

whats bad about insurgents?

[rocky patio]

Yes I both play with comp players and I administrate a server that has done objective analysis on unit balance

We score every unit in the game and try to match them for fair games

[patent stirrup]

servers arent competitive.

[rocky patio]

Lmao

[patent stirrup]

lmao is a great argument i do agree

[rocky patio]

Very low number of scopes, largely poorly handling weapons, bad HAT, bad IFVs, bad tank

[patent stirrup]

bad tank sure but the rest is just wrong.

[rocky patio]

IED Drones in a vacuum are OP, but they only make Insurgents viable

You’re completely out of your depths

[patent stirrup]

i prefer a bad tank with suicide vehicles over a good tank without them. i yesterday with a buddy destroyed a tank 2 lavs and a aavp with suicide bikes

[rocky patio]

Classic pub player takes

I killed some pub blind deaf and dumb armor therefore OP

[patent stirrup]

brother says i administrate a server which is literally pub players

[rocky patio]

Yes the most competitive server in NA and we host private scrims lol

[patent stirrup]

it averages out. if i can in 100 servers destroy 100 vehicles a game i can say objectively what i do is overpowered.

[rocky patio]

The #1 squad competitive clan plays here and in our scrims

[patent stirrup]

bro thinks a public server is competitve. they arent even close to real comp matches

[rocky patio]

lmao you are so desperate to not appear completely ignorant

Take the L kiddo

[patent stirrup]

you just take data from a public server and claim it is competitive players. i think thats incredible.

[rocky patio]

you know nothing

[patent stirrup]

100/100 players basically doing a competitive match every time! is what you are saying. so obviously objectively correct data

[rocky patio]

not about squad balance not about competitive

0 iq

[patent stirrup]

currently the number of ad hominems on your side is increasing which i wouldnt call a win for your argument.

[rocky patio]

Pls go start a comp team so I can watch you get shit on trying to pick ins

[patent stirrup]

lmao

you argue like a 13 year old

[rocky patio]

There is no argument when you’re this delusioned on your own ability

[patent stirrup]

continue using public server data to choose factions for your competitive matches

[rocky patio]

Here is a list of reasons why insurgents bad

UM WRONG ACTUALLY

Lol

You don’t even remotely understand what I’m talking about. You’re in your own world making up arguments to win that were never made

[patent stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

[rocky patio]

There is no “debate” here, you’re just a moron

[patent stirrup]

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[rocky patio]

Meanwhile zero reasons provided why GFI is bad

Just the vague sense of superiority you hold internally to protect your ego

There are safer places to be on the internet if you’re so fragile that this is how you react when confronted with contradicting info

[rocky patio]

2nd highest winrate faction last month, meanwhile ins is 8th

[shut coral]

BRITISH SUPREMACY

in v10.0 Ukraine will be on 1st place

[rocky patio]

The power of never being given tracked logis and newb armor gunners in pubs not knowing warrior penetration model 💀

[shut coral]

free weekends

[rocky patio]

I mean yeah but it happens all the time not just FW

There are people with hundreds of hours who are still newb gunners or think BAF is OP because the warrior is a good IFV

Unfortunately there are a lot of people like that guy above who don’t actually understand the mechanics and just run off of vibes

[rocky patio]

I hope they’ll be fun asf tho I hope they aren’t unbalanced like those factions

[glacial plaza]

I hope theres a lot of domestic Ukrainian gear

[shut coral]

there is

i have a list of domestic Ukranian equipment

for devs of course

[glacial plaza]

Thank god

[peak rampart]

the sheer volume of "yall renamed MEI to GFI, you better make them ACTUALLY IRANIAN" is really funny(So many fix GFI posts)

[rocky patio]

Is fair criticism. People don’t love the feeling that it is half assed

I like the change as small as it is but I would love to see it expanded

[glacial plaza]

There is alot of inaccuracies with the faction

Most of the rationale around this is essentially "You made the bed now you have to sleep in it, OWI"

[sleek frost]

rocket airstrike guaranteeing a tank kill? I guess you haven’t played commander that much

[sinful olive]

KH2002 and the Fateh were never adopted, meanwhile it looks like the Masaf 1 and 2 have been adopted, although they are boring as all hell (more piston-driven ARs)

[patent stirrup]

no. we aint adding an attack helicopter

[rocky patio]

some amount of heli cas is coming for sure

whether it's limited to utility helicopters with pods and guns or more dedicated CAS platforms is yet to be seen

[deft drift]

Lol posts data and closes yap

[deft drift]

Go back and check out what units and factions were picked and banned in MoiDawgs eye in the sky tournament

INS is never picked or banned because they are not good

Bet you 5 buckeroos that if moi does that silly format again INS never gets picked or banned again