RGF reworks, changes & additions

[regal lichen]

Weapons

• Remove the SVD from the Direct Combat role

• Add more RGO grenades to some roles

• Replace the AKS-74U + Banana mag with AKS-74 for the Raider kit

• Add an alternative variant of the Raider using the AKS-74 + 1P63 reflex sight

• Replace the MP-443 with PM Makarov on some roles like AR, MG, Crewman and Pilot

• Replace the 1P78 scope on the PKP with a more accurate 1P77, picture #1, this is a 4x magnification optic specifically designed for PKM and PKP machine guns

• Replace the NSV HMG with Kord HMG for FOB deployables, picture #2

• Add the correct model for PG-7VL for HAT roles and PG-7VS for LAT roles, mentioned in #1416545147369554043, using the RPG-7V1

• Correct the designation for the TM62 AT mine, should be TM-62M as shown on the model, picture #3

Vehicles

• Rename the MT-LB VMK to a more accurate designation MT-LBVM since it's using a NSVT HMG, VMK is for Kord HMG

• Add 9P149 Shturm-S tank destroyer

• Remove the fictional RWS for T72B3 and add the turning in/out for the commander if he wants to us that HMG

• Add back Ural-4320 for some battlegroups, picture #4

• Reduce the reverse speed for T72B3 and T90A tanks, that was a weird design choice in 9.0 but it was not needed

• Correct the designations for the MT-LB 6MB, should be MT-LBM 6MB

Battlegroups

Support

1x - MT-LBM 6MB
2x - MT-LB 6MA
1x - 9P149 Shturm-S
2x - BM-21 Grad
3x - Tigr Kord
3x - Ural-4320 Logistics
3x - Ural-4320 Transport (1 on 6min delay)
2x - Mi-8MTV-5 (10min delay)

[granite anchor]

What's the purpose of the Raider kit then?

Now we have compact AKSU and 45 rnd mag

[regal lichen]

he has 5 grenades still

[granite anchor]

Rifleman have 11/12

Not a big deal

[regal lichen]

they dont have 3 impact grenades

Raider kits in general are a dumb addition because of the commendation system

[granite anchor]

1P77 is not in usage
And PKM doesn't have siderail
Only PKMN and PKP have those

(And PKM + 1P29 for milita doesn't have siderail on the model 🤫)

[regal lichen]

I know PKM doesnt have the side rail, neither does AK-74 or AKS-74 but we get optics on them

[granite anchor]

Its possible to add them to AKs (only 4 rivets)
But PKP and PKMN have much more complicated system

Maybe it can be a good addition for the raider kit
AK-74M + 1P87

Better sightpicture

1P63 have really small window

[regal lichen]

would just be a name change for PKM to PKMN really

[granite anchor]

Nop

We need a new model

[regal lichen]

you really dont

[high minnow]

Nah

I agree on the PKM scope, T-72 Commander Change (important), namentlich corrections and the scopes.

But the rest. I like how RGF is rn. Ural is Not needed imo

[regal lichen]

Its just for Support unit for a lil bit of flavour

in tandem with BM-21 Grad

[high minnow]

OK. Now where are talking

Grad wouod be hot

Also Return of VR round 😉

[regal lichen]

yeah just the Support unit would have the Grad and Ural 4320

to show the "backline" and "support" troops

you see i didnt even mention other battlegroups because they are fine

[high minnow]

That’s a great idea

And Shturm for Support is also great

[regal lichen]

Not a bad idea

[vestal mist]

Than return that SVD to marksman?

[regal lichen]

As an alternative maybe

[umbral laurel]

RGF kits are fine. What is needed is to rework player models. Right now they are the oldest player models in game, modelled after "green men" in Krymea, with mis-mash of wrongly modelled helmet, udashkin era uniform.

Remodel to Ratnik gear (with 6b45+load bearing vest) would be good enough

And with addition of AFU moeled arouns 2020s, RGF stuck in 2012 is kinda strange

[high minnow]

Nah

[bold kayak]

OWI pls buy Supermod's Russian character models 🙏

[regal lichen]

Personally like the little green men look from mid 2010s

[high minnow]

Same

That’s Peak Russian drip

[high minnow]

Fr

BMD-2M is so cool

Goofy Little turret with the 2 ATGMs

[night coral]

or just dump them

stealing would be great

[high minnow]

Wat?

10-20k would be cheap for a faction like that

And would make a banger Overhaul

Never Steal 🗿🔫

[night coral]

or maybe just use a dumper and steal it☠️

those who steal:☠️

[high minnow]

Those who steal : ♿ 🫃

[night coral]

😎

[high minnow]

[night coral]

i am pregnant 😎

[high minnow]

☠️

[night coral]

Those who pregnant 😎

[high minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/sueñitosgifs-traumatized-mr-incredible-los-increibles-meme-gif-24305569

😱😱😱

[slim lotus]

a couple other minor additions that could make RGF more interesting

[regal lichen]

Sorry but no, holosun sights and that camo wouldnt make them interesting

On top of that for each faction i make this type of post im not basing them on current day stuff they use

So those 2 would not fit

[tough urchin]

Keep EMR please... ATACS-FG makes them look all specs ops and just off.

[regal lichen]

EMR shouldnt go anywhere

[slim lotus]

@tough urchin @regal lichen nah what im saying is to throw a few sets of atacs gear into the mix

obviously yeah switching the entire faction to atacs would make them look weird

[regal lichen]

Ok and I dont agree with it

It doesnt fit them

[slim lotus]

but if they gave a few of them atacs pants or jackets it would make the faction a bit more ragged instead of it being super uniform

[regal lichen]

Game is not set in present day or any specific conflict, making them look ragged doesnt make sense in Squads context

And since they are a conventional faction having mixed up camo patterns is not good for gameplay

[slim lotus]

eh it depends i think they should be brought up to 2019-2021 era

[regal lichen]

Then feel free to make your own post about it, I want them to stay with the mid 2010s look or at most Ratnik gear

[slim lotus]

maybe give them the 6sh122 if you want ratnik

i feel like it would fit well on some maps, and additionally it would be great for newer players when playing CAF vs RGF, since in both regions they have very similar patterns

[regal lichen]

There are already noticable differences between CAF and RGF camo isn’t the only thing you rely on

Helmet scrim, tan vests on woodland maps, woodland cadpat backpacks on desert maps, different rifles

[slim lotus]

that's why i said "for newer players"

[regal lichen]

And newer players should learn the differences in the training area which shows and lists them

Game shouldnt be made even easier

[slim lotus]

not saying it needs to be easier i just think its just a positive side effect of adding another feature

i dislike playing as RGF not just because of russia's actions, but also because the faction (especially infantry) is boring af

[regal lichen]

Ok again, feel free to make your own post about this

I am not for it and I dont think it fits the faction

[remote oasis]

One of my suggestions for Russia would be to remove that eye protection.

Just to have a better field of vision, in the mods that I have tried this simple modification, such as in Supermod, completely changes my preference towards the sight.

[regal lichen]

Looks naked

Id keep the eyecup

[vestal mist]

Rosguard uses ATACS-FG, but they're different organization

[vestal mist]

You might as well give them multicam, but it would be a teamkilling nightmare if you'll play RGFvsUSA

[slim lotus]

eh multicam is already used by lots of factions (USA, CRF, PMC) while nobody uses atacs FG at the moment

[umbral laurel]

Absolutley not. Just vanilla Ratnik gear and aesthetics are needed. VKPO with green/desert pixel, 1p78 and etc

[umbral laurel]

Looks dope, althou i'd prefer 9sh117+6b45, not just 6b45. Doper looks

[crystal basalt]

Specs ops
Used by VV MVD larpers as standard
😏

[crystal basalt]

Hey, VV MVD had spetsnaz squads during the Chechen wars 😏

[true vector]

A Wagner faction should make use of the ATACS camo and holosuns

#1340142701366083718 message

[slim lotus]

That's if OWI would make that

[true vector]

They should

[regal lichen]

Kinda unrelated to the topic of the post but imho WPMC should be light infantry / air assault specialists while EPMC gets that mechanized and armored specialization

[atomic knoll]

And nobody uses EMR either

[slim lotus]

Akshully some of the pouches on the vests for IMF use EMR 🤓

[atomic knoll]

Woah

[mortal fractal]

Eastern PMCs do not have armor. Most volunteer battalions like Redut, Patriot, etc. only have light infantry formations. The very few tanks and armor we saw with Wagner were either regular forces working with them or T90S that was very briefly on loan

[regal lichen]

ok and that doesnt matter because EPMC would be a fictional faction so who cares really

[mortal fractal]

I mean that argument could kind of be used against everything in squad

My point isn’t whether that should or shouldn’t be in game, just that Russian PMC groups don’t have armor in real life

[crystal basalt]

Wagner had their own Pantsirs and T-90Ms.

Su-25's.

Wow, a definitively not just a secret specops unit that went into a hyperdrive has state funding.

T-90S' are like one of the rarest tanks lmao.

[regal lichen]

idk man there was quite a few tanks when Wagner was rolling to Moscow

but since its not wagner or any other real PMC group Eastern PMC can be armored focused while Western PMC has CAS and air assets

[crystal basalt]

The Rostov tank.

Not even a T-90S, it's a 80BV.

[mortal fractal]

Just because they marched with Wagner doesn’t make them Wagner forces

A good portion of the people in that march were soldiers associated with Prigozhin not his own soldiers

[crystal basalt]

https://www.1tv.ru/news/2023-07-13/457007-chvk_vagner_peredala_minoborony_rossii_sotni_edinits_tyazhelogo_vooruzheniya
And for some reason the MoD seized their own tanks - by your words - from Wagner.

[mortal fractal]

Yes because they were on loan to the Wagner PMC from the Russian MOD. Who do you think provided them those tanks???

[crystal basalt]

I guess we have different understandings of the word "to loan".

[mortal fractal]

If Wagner was a complete conventional combined arms force that people claim they are why did they constantly have to beg the Russian MoD for support in artillery. The vast majority of Wagner forces and the overwhelming majority of volunteer battalions in Ukraine were purely light infantry

Even if Wagner was a combined arms force, which they weren’t, they were still the exception to the hundreds of other PMCs and volunteer battalions in Ukraine which did not operate the same way

Russian PMCs are fully fledged parts of the Russian defense forces, they are not independent companies like Western PMCs.

Effectively all equipment, weapons, and funding comes from the Russian MoD and they are designed to work within that framework not to be their own combined arms force

[mortal fractal]

This is a fine argument in my mind, we already have plenty of fictional forces in Squad and even the nonfictional forces border on fictional with their inaccuracies. My only point was that it’s not realistic and that’s fine

[thorny tangle]

eh tbf all the unconventional factions in Squad are fictional, sure theyre based off real life groups but they arent actually them for certain reasons, an eastern PMC can be based off the Wagner group but they dont have to be translated into the game 1 for 1, just that as long as they fill a certain niche and are fun enough to play, same cant exactly be said about conventional factions since theyre grounded on what equipment is/was available to them within the past decade or two, hence why these posts exist

[high minnow]

Most Russian PMCs are Supported by the army

And Wagner, which should be the Main Inspiration, has Armor

[night coral]

Yes they do Wagner had t72 tanks but mostly older models

Like T-72A and T-72B and such era tanks

Modern tanks like T72B3 and such where very rare but they did get them but as you said they where on Loan from the MoD