Thanks for Eu5

[lyric lake]

Hello idiot Squad developers, I want to thank you for giving us eu5 with more problems instead of solving the previous ones. You don't care about the player, you care about the money in the player's pocket, you aim to steal more money by blinding the player, nothing else.

[ocean prawn]

sigma

u have steel balls

[tawdry oasis]

How exactly they gonna get more money out of this? Isn't the game price same as before (50$) ? Can you elaborate on this one ,please?

[ocean prawn]

means to blur the eyes of new players who will come because of UE5

them didnt fix any old bugs and add more new bugs ))))

[tawdry oasis]

Seems like it.Probably he is Engry because his poor ahh pc cant handle it anymore

Like wtf, my performance improved lmao

And most important,UE5 feels amazing on this game imo

Ofcourse they have to fix weapon blur when scoping out but so far thats the only known "bug" i've seen

[lyric lake]

Licking them won't give you anything, they won't give you a reward

[tawdry oasis]

The reward is the update. I'm pretty satisfied with the update that is a result of their good work

[ocean prawn]

prone bug, running in scope bug, ADS bug. Many players solve this problems in their bug reports, but stupid ceeg just banhammered them from server ))))

[tawdry oasis]

Before them, I am more important and I feel great for this update

[ocean prawn]

just vibecodded game

by indi company

[tawdry oasis]

Sure there are more bugs than just scope blur, guess they will fix it in future 🤷

First of all they are all already guilty for being developers

[lyric lake]

I hope you continue to be fake happy in this broken game. If you get tired of mistakes after a certain period of time, see you later.

[ocean prawn]

These bugs are several years old. The players themselves have already solved it and sent the solution to the developers, as you can see, nothing has changed )))) 😢

[tawdry oasis]

I was happy before,Im even happier now. Maybe just upgrade your pc.Its not developers fault for your outdated pc

[tawdry oasis]

Jeez.Been playing this game for 1 year , couldn't know.Anyway , I didnt noticed anything that ruined my gameplay experience so hard that I can think about it with anger

[lyric lake]

Don't worry about my computer, it is more than enough for this game.

[frosty raft]

was this update rushed? yes
is it the end of the world? no

[frosty raft]

waaaa frame gen is le bad even though if nobody told me it was frame gen i wouldnt even know

[tawdry oasis]

Personally I have solid 110-130fps on 1440p epic settings without framegen 😁 , so I couldn't care less for UE4

[oak urchin]

Not sure I agree with the sentiments expressed here entirely, however, I have a brand new high end PC and am also having major issues lol. So the "dated" pc isn't a real leg to stand on.

[lyric lake]

I'm openly telling you that you're stupid, I'm using my freedom of thought to tell you that you're stupid and you're sending me warnings but you're ignoring the stupid, ridiculous mistakes right in front of your face.

[stray briar]

so you wanted them to completely fix issues on an outdated game engine before moving the game over to a new engine

[tawdry oasis]

Strange, I also have high end pc but zero issues or whatsoever

[stray briar]

and theyre moving away from said outdated game engine because it is harder to fix said problems

[ocean prawn]

5 years old problems )))

[drifting forum]

I love UE5 🦧 🦧 🦧 🦧 🦧

[ocean prawn]

they must be solved

[drifting forum]

[ocean prawn]

🙈

[tawdry oasis]

Probably they decided to move on UE5 and solve them there instead of solving them on an engine that will be deleted in couple of years

[stray briar]

1440p epic

[sterile heron]

first pic - past patch, full server, harju map, looking at city and ton of trees = 200fps
second pic - new patch, local solo server, harju map same spot, grass is not loaded LOL = 70 fps
third pic - my specs
UNREAL ENGINE 5 - unreal peace of shit haahahh

[sterile heron]

.

[frosty raft]

breh yo CPU is obviously bottlenecking ur GPU

[ocean prawn]

да все закал можешь не выписывать буржуям милсимерам, они энивей ничо не поймут

игра умерла

[sterile heron]

+++

[oak urchin]

I mean I can pull a ton of frames in Epic 1440 too.... For the 10 minutes that the game runs before crashing lol.

[tawdry oasis]

Crashing? That sounds like intel cpu or nvidia drivers

[sterile heron]

oh yeah, forgot this, my game crashed 3 times for 20 minutes

[oak urchin]

AMD

[sterile heron]

and i forgot about new input-lag, and stutters for every 5 seconds

[tawdry oasis]

I am full amd build too , no single game crash for 3 years straight

[oak urchin]

me too, before today

[sterile heron]

same

[tawdry oasis]

[oak urchin]

I fired up my old 2070 super/3600x rig to see. It also crashed.

[sterile heron]

drop me that link in pm bro

[frosty raft]

ive had crashes on UE4

[frosty raft]

i was trying to say if you dont like squad anymore just play project reality

[tawdry oasis]

What is that?

[sterile heron]

Already played it today, playing it for 8 years already, or more

[tawdry oasis]

Year ago I tried it. its a goofy ahh game imo

[sterile heron]

All my homies play squad but I think today I can convince them to switch to project reality

[frosty raft]

i cant lie PR still has a lot of stuff over squad, more factions maps and mechanics (like thermals)

[tawdry oasis]

Atp I just gonna play delta force

[frosty raft]

at the same time though yes the update is rushed, but im sure theyre gonna keep upgrading it over time and fixing bugs, they do that with every major update

[tawdry oasis]

Right now after we have completely new engine - yeah probably.It would be worth the time fixing stuff

[sterile heron]

+++
PR is much better than Squad, I agree

[tawdry oasis]

Played it once - didnt liked it

[frosty raft]

sucks it's quite dead and the graphics are old. i dont really mind old graphics, but lots of people do

[quaint hollow]

Y’all guys needs adapt and move on the game is not gonna change for 1 guy not liking it

[shut sorrel]

honestly

i hate it

i hated it during testing and i still hate it

everything is just one big fat fucking blur like all ue5 games

[brazen hamlet]

7800x3d + 2070s, 140 fps on old basrah -> 60, manic 100 -> 50

[tawdry oasis]

Life is blur too... At least for me.Staying so much infront of the screen I already see the world blurred, gotta get some glasses or smh

[shut sorrel]

nice

[ocean prawn]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[frosty raft]

breh yo card is poo poo

time to upgrade that 2070

[shut sorrel]

heres another ss i took

[fleet pike]

What an arrogant and completely out of touch response. I can run it fine and even I’m not such a wanker that I just tell people to drop hundreds if not thousands of dollars just to be able to play a game they already paid for.

[shut sorrel]

seems yeho also crashes servers

[shut sorrel]

bro just update to the newest quantum nasa computer so you can get 1 extra frame

[tawdry oasis]

It's even more arrogant to blame on developers and people that like this game for crappy hardware specs only because the game upgraded to a new engine

[tawdry oasis]

That'a what I am saying...you need something decent as a pc specs nowadays

[fleet pike]

What an incoherent statement. Just say “nah you” next time.

[shut sorrel]

tbf the engine does have its issues lol

[tawdry oasis]

What does not have its own issues, name me one thing.... Well, except my 8tb of interesting videos on my hard drive

[shut sorrel]

yeah but i think it should have had more time to cook

[tawdry oasis]

People will hate on anything ,literally everything

[shut sorrel]

im not hating on it

[tawdry oasis]

developers dared to improve their game and I dared to enjoy it. Somehow that’s my fault, not progress itself. You can run UE5 fine, yet the outrage somehow falls on people with working PCs and the devs? Fascinating logic. I’ll keep enjoying the upgrade while you invent reasons to be offended—arrogant and out of touch, apparently.

[fleet pike]

If you don’t get why telling people with hardware that could run UE4 but not 5 to “just go upgrade” isn’t arrogant as fuck, you never will.

[tawdry oasis]

it’s not arrogant to demand progress, but it is tragic how offended some get when the facts don’t care about feelings.

[fleet pike]

Keep telling yourself that

[tawdry oasis]

Meanwhile, the game runs, the engine upgraded, and I’m still enjoying it. Facts: 1, Ego: 0.

[tawdry oasis]

What an arrogant and shameless way to call me arrogant, just because I was arrogant to the OP who was being arrogant in the first place.

[cerulean prairie]

You know I’m surprised how the mods haven’t close this down

[tawdry oasis]

Fr

[cerulean prairie]

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone btw I’m just stating something

[tawdry oasis]

Just be ungratefull for the update... otherwise they will hate you

[daring pike]

How can you be satisfied with 110 FPS, that’s too low for a game like this? Before, the bottleneck was only the CPU, but now a powerful GPU is also important. How could you possibly get more FPS than on UE5?

[tawdry oasis]

110 FPS isn’t ‘too low’ by any standard. Competitive shooters are perfectly smooth at that, this is not CS2 where you do ferarri peek and you need gazillion frames per second with 150 00hz monitor ...and UE5 shifting load to the GPU is just how modern engines balance performance. If you expected infinite FPS, that’s not an engine issue - it’s just physics and hardware reality.UE5 isn’t designed to push 300+ potato frames like UE4 — it leverages modern GPUs for higher visual accuracy and frame pacing. The bottleneck isn’t ‘bad devs,’ it’s just how next-gen engines scale across hardware.
110 solid fps without any framegen is totally fine Especially on max epic settings and resolutions above 1080p
Also my gpu is not 4090 or 5090, so yeah - its totally fine for AMD gpu

[daring pike]

This literally comes down to bad developers. The game is static, there’s no destructibility. Compare it to something like Battlefield, where dozens of players are constantly shooting, destroying buildings, etc. On my old 3080 I was getting a stable 200+ FPS. Or take Rust — servers with thousands of players, and even there my FPS rarely dropped below 140 in the worst cases. Now I’ve got a 5080 and a 7800X3D, and I’m still disappointed with UE5 in Squad — I haven’t had FPS this choppy in a long time, and on top of that there are stutters.

[tawdry oasis]

UE5 isn’t UE4 with a fresh coat of paint — it’s an entirely different rendering pipeline. Comparing Squad on UE5 to Battlefield or Rust is misleading: different engines, different levels of optimization, and different studio budgets. Squad’s bottleneck now isn’t about ‘lazy devs,’ it’s about early-stage optimization on a new engine. Every UE5 title goes through stutter phases until shader compilation, streaming, and driver support mature. That’s not incompetence, it’s literally the growing pains of new tech. Your 7800X3D + 5080 combo is beastly, but no engine magically guarantees 200+ FPS the moment it’s ported.

Battlefield isn’t a milsim — it’s built around cinematic destruction and arcade mechanics, with an engine designed specifically for that. Squad on UE5 is pushing large-scale maps, long draw distances, and simulation-heavy systems instead. Totally different workloads. Blaming devs for not matching Battlefield’s FPS is like blaming a tractor for not hitting Formula 1 lap times

Battlefield runs on Frostbite, which is EA DICE’s in-house engine.
Unreal Engine 5, on the other hand, is a general-purpose engine — it has to handle everything from small indie titles to AAA open worlds. It’s more flexible, but not laser-optimized for a single franchise the way Frostbite is for Battlefield.

[daring pike]

Who cares about their budget? It’s their job. The point is they release a patch where a huge part of the players end up with almost half the FPS. With that kind of approach, their budget is never going to increase anyway XD

[tawdry oasis]

Right, who cares about budget… unless you’re comparing to Battlefield, which has a multi-year, multi-studio budget designed for cinematic destruction and arcade chaos. Expecting Squad on UE5 to magically match that FPS on day one? That’s peak entitlement.

early patches hitting some rigs with lower FPS is normal, not laziness.

It is what it is bro...

You have choice.You play it with 110fps or you don't play it.

I am gonna play it and over time I believe it will improve, we will see...

Btw I preordered BF6 too, It was really wild in playint the beta

What if they dont add bigger maps? Did I burned out with 70$ , I dont think so

Let alone the fact that 70$ is diabolical price,but anyway I paid it

[cerulean prairie]

Bro what is the feedback 💀. This is just endless arguments that will lead to no where

[tawdry oasis]

The post istelf was a ragebait, not a feedback

[sterile heron]

Optimization? What is it dude? Just buy 3000$ pc and play game

(with 80 fps(and imputlags with stutters))

Yo guys, stop crying about optimization, they are small studio with 2 working programers, just buy NEW PC

They have no money to pay their workers, buy some skins man, then new PC, just upgrade it for new UE5, that's simple man

Netcode? That is so hard to do it good man. What? Netcode for battlebit is made by one 16yo kid from Belarus? And people can play on server 128vs128? With destruction and good bullet registration? Nah man, that is not true. Btw buy our new emote pack plz and skins, we will make game better, i promise

Who need that french army and rework of insurgency/territory control? Forget about that. We are making new unreal engine 6 update for our game, after that we will make another faction with same guns and vehicles. What? You need new gameplay features? Why? We maked the RAAS for you, it is just like AAS but with random flags, enjoy it. Oh, we are just maked another competitive tournament for you, with team full of cheaters with cheats inside tournament mod. And don't touch our configs ok? We are not protected them, don't delete the grass ok? And bushes. It's illegal, alright?

By the way, buy our new jungle skinpack for PLA, it's ok that you don't play our new non-optimized map Sexian islands, just buy it ok? On this money we can have some fun, and don't fixing that FUCK OWI issue with server browser. Thanks for your patience

[dusky onyx]

Sometimes I start to think that OWI is a bit of a trainwreck. And then I look over at Gaijin. And I’m thankful that Squad is in the state that it’s in.

[stray briar]

The Russian bot accounts are really trying to convince people ue5 is bad

[dusky onyx]

It can be bad, but even if it is, it is not the end of the workd

[sterile heron]

No, it's eu coping bots says that ue5 is good

[quaint hollow]

guys i think ima reintall the game once problems is fixed it dosent seem trust worthy rn

[coral ore]

WE FINDED THE LAST UE5 HATER!!!

[frank warren]

I wouldnt usually want to join the UE5 dogpile, but the game is unplayably laggy. In the process of testing out settings I swapped to tsr which causes my game to crash instantly, and now I cant even get to the main menu.

UE5 can be good, but this specific UE5 upgrade is bad.

[normal arrow]

UE5 has memory leaks at the engine level
it happens with every game made in UE5, even though EPIC claims theres no issues

on top of poor performance on even modern mid range PCs

[wind timber]

It’s bleak

My friend can only get 25 fps

[tawdry oasis]

No it's usually the russian bot accounts who are always mad about something . We all know they find problems even in decent good things out there. If you don't like it - don't play it. It's that simple. Doesn't change the fact that most people enjoy it.

[tawdry oasis]

Oh yeah, Sherlock ,totally makes sense. Squad should stop wasting time adding factions, weapons, and gameplay systems and instead just release the mythical ‘perfect optimization patch’ that makes UE5 run at 300 FPS on a toaster. Forget the fact that UE5 changes asset streaming, shader compilation, and GPU load balancing at the core level. Forget the fact every UE5 game — from Fortnite to AAA shooters — had stutter issues until patches rolled in. No, no, it’s all a grand conspiracy to sell us emotes while ruining your frames. Brilliant

[coral ore]

dont tell UE5 haters about the witcher 4

[normal arrow]

TW4 will also run like shit

[coral ore]

and nanite foliage

[coral ore]

of course you know better than us

[normal arrow]

nanite isnt a catchall technology to solve all performance issues

[tawdry oasis]

So all of this sudden ‘activism’ about the update - what is it really about? Because it sure looks like nothing more than old, dying PC configs crying for mercy. Let’s be honest: you didn’t like Squad before UE5, so why are you still here pretending you care now? Oh, and since I’m from the Balkans and actually speak Russian, let me drop a fact: in a year and a half of games, I’ve never once heard a Russian complain so bad about optimization - Instead, they’re usually the most strategic players in the match. Makes me think this whole outrage is just russian bots and discord warriors who don’t even play the game, cosplaying as the voice of the community.

[normal arrow]

Loved squad before the update
current system runs the game ok post-UE5 update(70-80fpsin jensens), but nowhere near as well as pre-UE5 update(100-120fps in jensens)

the engine update needed a lot more time in the oven for optimization

or even not to be pushed at all

[tawdry oasis]

Yep, and that’s exactly what happens with a brand-new engine drop. pre-UE5 was fully matured, years of patches and optimizations behind it, while post-UE5 is fresh out the gate.

[normal arrow]

lets face it
from what ive gathered
the game actually ran half decent on a lot more systems before this update
and now said systems cant even get 25 fps

UE5 has not gone over well for any developer from what ive seen

even konami, with MGS Delta

[olive knot]

years of optimizations

What a joke lol

There's no major updates in squad history that increased performance

[remote pendant]

Ahh shit fps and freezes in game

[tawdry oasis]

Totally, older systems are really taking a hit with UE5 - that’s unavoidable with a major engine overhaul. The difference is, for anyone with reasonably modern hardware, the game still runs smoothly. UE5 brings big changes under the hood, and almost every developer experiences similar early growing pains. It’s frustrating for some players, but it’s not the same as the game being broken - it’s just the cost of moving to a next-gen engine.

[normal arrow]

modern higher end systems struggle with it

the engine isnt great

[tawdry oasis]

Mine doesn't at all

[normal arrow]

ah
so youre basing all UE5 experiences off of only your own

gotcha

[olive knot]

"oh i got zero problems w product, it means everyone shouldn't"

[tawdry oasis]

as long as we talking about high-end systems or at least decent ones ,not about all of them older hardware ,right ?

[normal arrow]

what

[tawdry oasis]

Exactly — just because your system struggles doesn’t mean mine does

[remote pendant]

“Everyone should have rtx5090 and i9 14 and 128gb ddr5”

[tawdry oasis]

My whole pc setups cost is a cost of an 5090 , so what's your point then ?

[olive knot]

I see you can't reed further than first part of sentence

[olive knot]

Name your setup then

Im interested

[tawdry oasis]

Don’t worry, I read every part — it’s just that the part about universal truths being nonsense really stood out.

[tawdry oasis]

7900XTX with 7800X3D , 32 gigs ram , how is that super duper premium ? It's 750$ GPU with 300$ CPU and 130$ RAM kit , mobo for 250$ and that's it

[remote pendant]

Rtx5090 costs 1200$?

[olive knot]

1k euro gpu, 350 cpu, 150 ram kit.

And what fps do you get?

[tawdry oasis]

1k euro gpu ? Where are you shopping from , hogwarts ?

[olive knot]

Euro markets lol

+- 50

[tawdry oasis]

Exactly ,my build is not even close to 5090's price alone , and stil runs this game decent

[olive knot]

What avg fps you get

[remote pendant]

Well, my build isn't too bad either, but I don't have stable 60 fps for some reason

[tawdry oasis]

I bought it for 1700BGN which is 850 euro , and bought it 6 months ago, with the promotion and promocode it went down to 750 euro. And it came with a game bundle worth 70$ too.

That was exactly after 9070XT came out, now prices could be even lower for 7900XTX. I should check on them.

[tawdry oasis]

with FG I get 230fps , without - 130 on 1440p Epic\cinematic settings, no upscaling. I even have my scope resolution to 125%, game resolution is at 100%. I have motion blur enabled too, every setting is at max except ocean quality

[tawdry oasis]

What is your build ?

[remote pendant]

Rtx3050L 6bg (modified by acer) I5 13420h 16gb ddr5
Yeah gpu is ass but dlss should save situation but nah

[normal arrow]

Thats the thing
most people dont have the money to just go out and drop up to $1500 on upgrades
to be able to play a game that ran perfectly fine for them before an update like this

even newer systems are struggling with UE5

[warm hearth]

UE5 trash

[tawdry oasis]

Nahhh , 3050 and newer system in one sentence is wild bro 🥲

[remote pendant]

I saw some people saying about unstable situations 13 and 14

[remote pendant]

Thats not new lol

I said thats not too bad

[tawdry oasis]

not having stable fps with 3050 is kinda expected

tbh , 3050 is bad,

As far as I remember you got it in prebuild

[ruby wraith]

Not having stable fps with 4070

Np, ue6 will fix all problems

Just wait

[tawdry oasis]

Yeah , wait until UE5 fixes the world hunger. It should do it ! It MUST fix the world hunger and world-wide war conflicts ! Otherwise it would just sucks

[coral ore]

after that UE5 still will be bad

[tawdry oasis]

Of course, UE5 will always be ‘bad’.Some people just specialize in complaining 😏 Оfcourse there are games that are worth the engine. Like Delta Force, CoD Black ops 7, fortnite,roblox...

If you guys ever played Glory To The Heroes you would stop immediately complaining about Squad UE5 😭 🙏

[normal arrow]

lmao
delta force aint worth shit

that game looked at all the worst bits from 2042 and said "yeah lets do that."

[tawdry oasis]

that's what I am saying... if someone doesn't like suqad and ue5 can easily go for Delta force crappy ahh games that will run fine

[normal arrow]

also
blackops and roblox arent on UE5
what the hell you smokin

[tawdry oasis]

Exactly , they are even worse (as a game) so feel free to go and play them instead of Squad

[normal arrow]

you... cant compare the game feel when talking about UE5
to games made on an entirely different engine

[vernal crater]

So we can't complain about the product?

[tawdry oasis]

Exactly - there is no comparrison between them, squad is much better. As far as I know your other milsim choice is limited to Hell Let loose ? Project Reality ?. HLL is not even a milsim

[vernal crater]

So if I meet the recommended requirements and have terrible performance, I can't complain?

[tawdry oasis]

You can complain ofcourse , people do it all day. But meeting the ''recomended requirements'' has nothing to do with your ''guaranteed'' performance counter. For most game companies ''playable'' is 60fps

[normal arrow]

most people arent even getting 60 in squad with the recommended

[vernal crater]

And that's the thing, the game is so poorly optimized that it doesn't even reach 60 FPS in my case.

[tawdry oasis]

after all , OWI should really consider upgrading the sys requirements for this game

[tawdry oasis]

what are your specs ?

[normal arrow]

or
OWI could choose not make headass decisions that hampers a good amount of the community by going with a terrible game engine upgrade

[tawdry oasis]

some dude above said that he has good pc and when I asked about his specs he said ''3050 🥀

[vernal crater]

It's not a big deal i7 10700K, 3060 Ti, 32 GB ram

[normal arrow]

the recommended is a 3060

[vernal crater]

But with those components it should give me at least 60 stable fps, at least

[tawdry oasis]

well , I remember yesterday a person with 4060 ti to complain about bad performance too. Also I think 3000 series nvidia gpus doesn't have framgen , if i am not wrong

[tawdry oasis]

you playing at 1440p ?

[normal arrow]

frame gen shouldnt even be considered here

[vernal crater]

1080p

[normal arrow]

its not good
but thats a separate discussion

[hybrid rock]

Wtf are you talking about
Framegen is not the optimization

[tawdry oasis]

FSR shouldn't even be a thing in this game - but it is...

you have no choice for AA method

[normal arrow]

you do though
lmao
you can easily disable it

[hybrid rock]

We should get stable FPS without framegen

[tawdry oasis]

Yeah , and you can't see anything because of sharpness and grain

[normal arrow]

frame gen is a bandaid fix for a hemorrhaging wound

[hybrid rock]

The game is already have stupid amount of blur and ghosting issues
And with the framegen it become even worse

[tawdry oasis]

it feels smooth when I play with it , no blur whatsoever

[normal arrow]

if you get bad performance at base, framegen might make the fps number higher, but it makes the game feel a shit ton worse

[tawdry oasis]

i have ghosting but it has nothing to do with framegen , it's since UE4

[hybrid rock]

At least at 1080p

[normal arrow]

UE5 has even worse ghosting

without frame gen enabled

[tawdry oasis]

I don't know how is it with Nvidia , but with AMD framegen is just fine - literally zero difference in picture quality

[normal arrow]

thats
just actually objectively false

[tawdry oasis]

With or without framegen - I have the same level of ghosting when moving weapon both in UE5 and UE4

[normal arrow]

yes, because thats a UE5 issue

[hybrid rock]

And latency increases when framegen is enabled

Iam getting twice as much
7 to 13

[tawdry oasis]

No , it happened in UE4 too

let me join a server to test the latency

[hybrid rock]

DLSS and FSR looks really bad for 1080p when foliage is around

[normal arrow]

upscaling and frame gen were two mistakes of technology

and have made some bigger game/game engine devs lazy with optimization

[tawdry oasis]

What are you even on about?

[normal arrow]

the massive push for use of frame gen and upscaling to get higher fps

when both make the user experience worse overall

[tawdry oasis]

My latency improves

[hybrid rock]

TSR is not bad tho
But anyway it have the worst performance

It have less ghosting than any other AA available for the game

[tawdry oasis]

.

[hybrid rock]

It have better details at distance

[remote pendant]

Roblox ue5💀

[hybrid rock]

I have more latency at 1080p

7 to 13

[tawdry oasis]

I mean, my latenct improves with framegen, so whats this all about

Wait , didnt the video uploaded alreadty? Wait I show you

[hybrid rock]

Everything that was made in last few years works well only for QHD and 4K
Companies forgetting about FHD

[tawdry oasis]

That's completely normal...Same that happened with 720p, I mean who tf even plays at 720p anymore ....same will happen with 1440p someday, its the nature of upgrades, upgrades to a better

[normal arrow]

except that most people even nowadays cant run even 1440p at a reasonable framerate, let alone 4k

1080p is still a gold standard for video games

[tawdry oasis]

Games upgrade, hardware also should upgrade... I have many friends that still rocks rx580

[normal arrow]

modern cards and cpus still barely can handle 4k

what are you on about lmao

[tawdry oasis]

Ehh...

[normal arrow]

also again
a lot of people dont have the money to get all of the latest and greatest hardware

we should not be using higher end systems as a baseline for performance

[tawdry oasis]

totally agree on that... But people are already bored with comics-like graphics games , and everything has a price...

[normal arrow]

what

what kind of strawman argument is that

[tawdry oasis]

it's an argument that when you want to play high graphics games ,simulator like - it has a cost

if you want you can keep older hardware but you will be able only to play roblox

everything has a price

[hybrid rock]

Ok, but 1080p will stay

Because it have acceptable density of pixels
It have good performance and less latency

And anyway
PT7 had better performance than 9.0 release

150 vs 110 in the same location at Al Basrah in local

[tawdry oasis]

I was playing on 1080p 4 years ago, back then it made no difference at all..Since I switched to 1440p and now downgrading to 1080p feels just awfull

its blurry af

[normal arrow]

its not that much blurrier

[tawdry oasis]

same thing with 60hz vs 170hz , once you jump onto 170hz you can't go back to 60hz

[normal arrow]

ive got both a 1080p and 1440p monitor

[hybrid rock]

Arma Reforger have much better optimization, more details
And OH GOD hardware AA features

And it works well

[tawdry oasis]

yes it is , I tried it yesterday - i just can't stand it , my eye used to be playing at 1440p for 3-4 years especially on 27 inch monitor

[normal arrow]

Arma reforger runs and looks so much better

[tawdry oasis]

Sure, Arma Reforger runs well - it’s a smaller-scale engine and doesn’t push UE5-level assets or draw distances.

[normal arrow]

it does though

lmao

[tawdry oasis]

Comparing UE5 Squad to Arma Reforger is like saying a Ferrari is slow because a skateboard is easier to push

your flip phone has better camera quality than a DSLR, so obviously DSLRs are trash.

[vernal crater]

They could have bought a license to use the Arma Reforger engine....

[vernal crater]

In what sense do you say it is smaller scale?

[tawdry oasis]

Well, in scale I mean Arma Reforger has smaller maps, fewer high-poly assets, simpler physics, and less complex AI interactions. UE5 is handling massive open-world maps, photorealistic textures, real-time lighting, and advanced simulation systems — basically next-gen features that demand more hardware. Comparing the two is like saying a tricycle and a semi-truck are the same because they both have wheels

[normal arrow]

what smaller maps

the maps are way bigger in reforger

and it has realtime lighting

[vernal crater]

Brother, you know that Arma developers make military simulators for armies, right?

[normal arrow]

also
photo realistic textures arent a good thing

[tawdry oasis]

True, Arma Reforger maps can be physically bigger, but UE5 Squad maps are far denser and more detailed — photorealistic textures, high-poly models, real-time lighting, physics, and foliage everywhere. So even smaller maps in UE5 can be heavier on hardware than huge, simpler maps in Reforger

[normal arrow]

4k+ textures hurt optimization more than they benefit it

also
what are you talking about
reforger maps are almost entirely forested

[tawdry oasis]

Forest isn’t just trees — UE5 handles every leaf, shadow, and physics interaction in real time. That’s why even a forest-heavy UE5 map can hit hardware harder than Reforger’s big, simpler forests

[normal arrow]

that just sounds like a bad use of resources on UE5s part

[indigo imp]

I currently crash like whole computer turns off black screen when I try to play squad now

[tawdry oasis]

Check your PSU, sounds like hardware issue

[normal arrow]

ah yes
blame everything but the game/engine

classic move

[indigo imp]

It only happened when I turned on XMP profile in my bios in squad is the only game that does it as long as I don’t load into a game, I can sit in the main menu

[tawdry oasis]

I used to have AM4 platform. For me it happened on Intel XMP Ram kit modules on an AMD AM4 motherboard. They worked for 2 months ,and after that the XMP profile just made my pc crash even when loading into windows

[indigo imp]

I’m able to get into windows and play games and do everything I just can’t load into a squad server or i black screen and crash(not bsod)

[tawdry oasis]

UE5 itself doesn’t just turn PCs off. Blaming the engine for a full shutdown is like blaming a car for running out of gas

[tawdry oasis]

really strange for real

try turning off the XMP/EXPO profile and try again , also check your event viewer

[indigo imp]

I’m reinstalling the game right now and seeing if I can replicate it again to know I’m not crazy 😭

[tawdry oasis]

No you are not crazy. It's completely possible to be from the game and/or your hardware. Sounds like your hardware is not utilized properly by the game's way of utilizing stuff. It could also be a hardware issue

I would not be surprised if it's due to the game after all

by the way , what system specs do you have ?

[indigo imp]

Ryzen 5 5600x rtx 3070 64gb of ram 3600mhz ddr4

[tawdry oasis]

sounds like decent

[indigo imp]

Not bad, not most modern, but it meets the steam recommended hardware specs so I’m not complaining

[tawdry oasis]

by the way , In the 3-4th playtest of Squad UE5 I think - I had the same issue , whenever I respawn into the HAB - game crashed

[indigo imp]

So like 99% chance it’s the game?

because let me restate I can do everything else besides play a squad match

[tawdry oasis]

yes

Although , my game didn't caused my pc to crash and blackout - but it kept sendind squad bug reports from UE5 engine

[indigo imp]

Yea give it like a week Most of these issues probably won’t exist.

[tawdry oasis]

but that's not a universal way for every pc config to handle crashes , some crash and blackout - some doesn't. It could be crashing because your gpu drivers

[indigo imp]

Is yours whenever you load into a match?

[tawdry oasis]

For me personally - I couldn't play the whole 1 week playtest until they released another pplaytest weeks later

[tawdry oasis]

Yes, I could be able to join into the menu and do stuff , but whenever I joined a mach and more specially press to spawn into the HAB/base - crash

[indigo imp]

We’re probably having the same crash just different triggers

Cause both of ours is something with loading the game

[tawdry oasis]

Mine is fixed already. It happened on the 3rd or 4th playtest (one of the two)

I suggest you talking to an squad developer or support

[indigo imp]

Ah still prolly should make a bug report after I’m done installing and if i can replicate it see if anyone else has mine specifically

[tawdry oasis]

I didn't even bothered with that , just waited for the next playtest to be released and it was fixed ,but in that case when the game is already out and there will be no major fixes for stuff like that - you probably should contact support and maybe send them dxdiag/msinfo32 reports

[indigo imp]

How would I do this?

[cerulean prairie]

my performance is basically the same

50 to 60

[normal arrow]

ah yes, the simpler forests and lower render distance of reforger

[tawdry oasis]

I have no idea , even if there is a way of contacting them

[tawdry oasis]

evereything is so blurry and dark - can't see much of that picture.Also 74fps....

[remote pendant]

Also but with ass freezes

[indigo imp]

I get 25-55 depending on the map and area of that map

[normal arrow]

still more fps than im getting in squad with the UE5 update

and its dark because its nighttime

[tawdry oasis]

but the picture quality is ass bro...at least from what I can see on that picture you uploaded, or it's just the game like a 3d cartoon project

[tawdry oasis]

Try filming in mid-day

[normal arrow]

you shouldnt be one to judge picture quality when you say you use framegen

[vernal crater]

Zimnitrita

I would recommend you look for videos on YouTube about that map, for example.

And in terms of draw distance, that depends on each player's configuration, but if I remember correctly, it is set to 2 KM by default.

[normal arrow]

and i had mine set to this

while still getting more fps than the UE5 update, on a server with more than 100 people

[vernal crater]

correction

usually 128 players xd

[normal arrow]

still more than a full squad lobby lol

[vernal crater]

And if I remember correctly, some modders are now trying to add 256 players to the maps...

[vernal crater]

yup XD

[normal arrow]

so
update
downloaded the map
couldnt find that same spot, just went to the top of a random castle on a hill
and was able to increase my render distance by 3x and setting my graphics to max LOL

try doin that in UE5 without getting 2 fps

[red kite]

#1412906916895658075 message are you sure that UE5 is way better?

[tawdry oasis]

Well guess what, framegen doesnt affect picture quality

[tawdry oasis]

I like it more

[normal arrow]

so frame gen ghosting just isnt a picture quality issue then?

[tawdry oasis]

This ghosting was persistent in UE4 as well , I have ghosting on the weapon since then.And UE4 didn't had Framegen lmao

[red kite]

Arma Reforger with 1.5 experimental update has 12km render distance, it also looks way better

[red kite]

it didnt if you disabled ao, you cant do that on ue5

[normal arrow]

i think it might be dependant on map as well?
cause in that screencap it was at 15km

[tawdry oasis]

All I could see on that screencap was pixels ,bright and dark.

and graphics simillar to CS 1.6

[normal arrow]

lmfao

ok so youre just a troll, gotcha

[tawdry oasis]

like really ?

what is that ? half-life ?

[tawdry oasis]

no , let's be real , can you even compare these graphics to squad ones ? - No

[normal arrow]

ah yes
arma reforger, everyone

[vernal crater]

Brother, I'll be honest with you, can you watch a video of the Arma Reforger graphics settings?

Because at this point it's impossible unless you're trolling.

[tawdry oasis]

is that pinky clinky scope ass color in military game ?

[normal arrow]

(they are)

[tawdry oasis]

saying someone is trolling only because it's pointing the truth that is not corresponding to your beliefs is diabolical

[vernal crater]

Modding

[tawdry oasis]

go in youtube searc bar and type : Glory to the Heroes Playtest 2025 08 11 14 17

this is my video of GTTH playtest

a real one ''unfinished'' game

[normal arrow]

yea im not gonna do that :)

[tawdry oasis]

after watching this pain in the eyes movement - you will understand that Squad is just fine

until then - keep complaining and saying something is bad when it really isn't

[normal arrow]

soooooo
an entirely different game having bad visuals

is the reason that reforger "looks bad"

actual clown take

[tawdry oasis]

Actually we are here talking about the Squad, if you are messing entirely different games like reforger , why wouldn't I give an example of really a bad game too?

Also the game doesn't have bad visuals, it's not finished and it's really laggy,buggy etc. Pretty good visuals for an unfinished game with 4 people stuido tbh

[normal arrow]

damn guys
look at this game
it looks really bad graphically
squad looks so much better!

[tawdry oasis]

so it turns out you are just a trolling hater that doesn't like newer games with better graphics and mechanics ? instead you like playing ps1 games that have potato graphics and calling that optimization, you should have started with that...

[tawdry oasis]

55 fps 🥀 btw is that an 1080p ? now that explains a lot why you hating on new games...just because your hardware is cooked

[normal arrow]

nah, 16000p

:)

[tawdry oasis]

''16000p'' That definitely makes sense why every new game ‘runs bad’ on your cooked rig

Also I am not saying that arma is a bad game. It's just that has nothing to do with graphics compared to Squad or UE5 therefore with performance and optimization too.

Its just that - a gang of clowns roaming around the servers saying UE5 is bad only because their hardware can't support it. You literally tell everyone that the grape is sour only because you can't reach it🤡 🤡 🤡

[fallow brook]

Well here I am, my hardware supports more demanding games than this one and they run without problems maxed out, I can say that this sucks after the latest update, it does need optimization

[tawdry oasis]

It definitely needs an optimization , that's for sure. There are no 2 oppinions on that. It's just not the end of the world like many people represent it

[cerulean prairie]

Please someone put this post out of it misery already

[fallow brook]

I do like the better look from graphics and new factions, but all these sudden FPS drops (for God knows what reason) need fixing ASAP

[normal arrow]

the reason is ue5, plain and simple

[tawdry oasis]

here we go again....

UE5 is running just fine on my pc , upgrade your pc with something better than rx580 or 2060 , Or just wait until they optimize the game so you can play it on your low-end hardware - it's that simple. or use framgen if you have it 😉 Personally I have improved latency on AMD GPU and amd cpu + SAM activated

It's not that deep

[quasi jewel]

гоев наебали как лохов последних, а они и не против

[rotund spruce]

free @lyric lake

[tawdry oasis]

Сразу видно: паника из-за обновлений, но логины продолжаются. Любимая Squad-драма

[quasi jewel]

заплачь цыганка кривозубая

тебе хуем по лбу поводили

ты счастлив

через гугл переводчик хуево пишешь

а чего ещё ожидать от жителя танков

[tawdry oasis]

Совет дня: сначала английский, потом аргументы. А пока что — только монголоидный бред

[quasi jewel]

ПХАХПАХАП, заикайся в хуй, хохлина ебаная

[tawdry oasis]

не кричи вова

[quasi jewel]

я твою мать за уши тянул кенгуру получалось

сын матери

[tawdry oasis]

Speak english, no one understand you

[sterile heron]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

[quasi jewel]

на мове пиши уебище глупое

я тебя пойму

[tawdry oasis]

Go play roblox or cheat in CS2

[quasi jewel]

при чем тут другие игры, миколка глупый

ты даже не понимаешь насколько тебя наебали

[tawdry oasis]

Выучи английский тупое животное

[quasi jewel]

я его знаю

[tawdry oasis]

О, карта «тебя наёбали» — типичный троллинг. А Squad при этом отлично работает, а ты всё жалуешься

[ruby wraith]

Ну на счёт отлично - сомнительно, но в целом работает кое-как

[tawdry oasis]

Да, есть над чем работать 😅 Но если игра в целом запускается и можно играть, это уже хороший старт. Следующие патчи должны помочь..

[tawdry oasis]

Тяну твою майку в танк

[quasi jewel]

майку?

какую майку, пиши на английском уже, не позорься

назови страну и адрес

я к тебе приеду под дверь насру

[tawdry oasis]

Назови страну, которая вас не ненавидит

[quasi jewel]

если не завтра так после завтра, если не приеду, перечитай сообщение

[quasi jewel]

Белорусы

Казахи

[tawdry oasis]

ПХХАХАХАХХАХАХАХАХА

[quasi jewel]

Узбеки

Калмыки

Татары

они вообще ребята

крутые

для тебя есть какие-то страны кроме США и Европы?

которых ты считаешь цивилизованными

окак

[tawdry oasis]

Иди поплачь в угол, что не можешь запустить Squad, так даже лучше - на одного токсичного идиота меньше.