stoic widget
I decided to make an infographic showing the attack helicopters that could be added to their respective factions. Some liberties had to be taken, for example the VDV don't directly operate any dedicated attack helicopter.
I cited some sources that imply that they're coming at some point. I bet we see armed versions of the existing transport helicopters (like the UH-1Y CAS) before dedicated attack versions.
hardy zenith
As someone that’s been following since that Kickstarter, I would be in heaven seeing these implemented.
+1
high warren
I decided to make an infographic showing the attack helicopters that could be ad...
I think the MEA should have access to the Mi-24
Would definitely allow them to be unique imo
stoic widget
I think the MEA should have access to the Mi-24
Toufan is more unique IMO. The Russians should get the Hind.
high warren
Toufan is more unique IMO. The Russians should get the Hind.
Maybe you're suggestions for some Russian units getting the Hind could apply to the MEA as well with some getting the AH-1S/Toufan well others get the Mi-24
Though I guess since this is a little bit related here are some ideas for SPAAs I've had. (Canada and Aussies could be more reliant on emplaced MANPADS or have more infantry manpads to make it up)
MEA: Shilka
US army: Linebacker
USMC: Avenger Humvee
UK: Stormer HVM
TLF: KORKUT
RGF: Tunguska
VDV: BTR-ZD since it's already in the game, though maybe the ZSU-23-2 could be the modernized version with iglas on it.
PLA: PGZ-95
PMC: a truck with an Oerlikon 20 mm turret on the back or an ex israeli m163 since they have tanks for some reason
long goblet
My main concern is that this is going to be a HUGE development effort. They need to make the helis themselves, they need to make the MANPADS and maybe SACLOS missiles, plus they need the models for all that.
My guess is that they'll be adding CAS like something they have in GE or MEE. Just some static MGs and dumb fire rockets, and I would be very surprised if actual dedicated CAS helicopters might be very far off.
quaint gazelle
I hope the helis are worth 20 tickets
uneven falcon
If attack helicopters are going to be the "tanks" of air assault units, then yes. But let's not forget that both teams consist of 50 players in total, adding too many vehicles will reduce the number of infantry a lot, this happens on modded servers already. this worries me the most, because I know we can balance missiles etc. but we are stuck with 50p per team
long goblet
that is fair, but I recon that is also somewhat manageable.
But tbf they could just lower the number of other assets
peak saffron
If attack helicopters are going to be the "tanks" of air assault units, then yes...
trading tanks for helis wouldnt change the player balance and would arguably add more infantry since theres no cmd seat on a heli
potent wing
My main concern is that this is going to be a HUGE development effort. They need...
Manpads are already in development as seen in the image that op posted, and saclos missiles are basically all atgms in Squad atm, generally speaking there's only one way I can see attack helis being added in the game and it's basically limiting them to carrying dumb fire rockets only on their pylons, no air-to-surface missiles and the like of it
long goblet
the issue is that the ones that they've shown are very early development prototype, and by the footage that we got it is hard to tell how far along it actually is. What they had shown might have been a side project that one of the experienced devs did in the spare time over a weekend, or smt that a dozen of devs worked on for weeks.
ether way, they will defo not be adding guided munitions for a while and they'll not add 30mm autocannons to them, so we will ether get heavily castrated CAS helis, or it'll take a long time to actually get to these ones
if they'll keep adding CAS stuff, then it'll most likely be smt similar to Loach. So Mi-8 with rocket pods and stuff like that
stoic widget
the issue is that the ones that they've shown are very early development prototy...
Pretty much all the vehicles are castrated to some degree, it sort of has to be done for the sake of balance. A legit Abrams with it's 1:1 IRL capabilities would be nearly unstoppable.
It's to be expected in a video game.
mystic crest
Pretty much all the vehicles are castrated to some degree, it sort of has to be ...
Not with "1:1" AT capabilities.
most ground vehicles are much more effective than IRL
IRL tanks do not kill 10+ vehicles and 50+ infantrymen per hour.
manic crag
not sure if the game would be ready for something like this
for example, the Lead Pilot role has no Squad limitation to it
funny how the game lets players solo a BRDM and AAVP but Stryker can't
lime gust
i really wanna see some brit heli like Westland Lynx/AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat, its be cool if they can get not only apache
long goblet
And Mi-2 with Mi-8 for serb milita)))
tbf this is what we will most likely only see, at least for the near future
high warren
And Mi-2 with Mi-8 for serb milita)))
Mil doesnt need a heli
That'd out right make them conventional
long goblet
yeah, this will most likely be added to RGF, and smt like little bird to US
high warren
I don't think Russia uses the mi-2 anymore
long goblet
was more so talking about the Mi-8
high warren
I don't think Russia uses the mi-2 anymore
Correction, It seems they do, but I'm not getting any clear images of them, mostly ones in museums or ones that look in shitty condition
long goblet
Correction, It seems they do, but I'm not getting any clear images of them, most...
most likely used as trainers or a "just in case"
long goblet
There's files for a cas Mi-8 in game
is it actually in the main game, or is that the mod? I know those are a thing in GE, but don't think I saw anything like it in the SDK
high warren
is it actually in the main game, or is that the mod? I know those are a thing in...
It's been in the sdk for years, GE just added them to the game. GE basically doesn't have a single original asset from what I understand, either using stuff present in the SDK or getting stuff from a 3D asset store.
There's no shame in that, modders across many games have been doing that for years, I'd say my main critique of GE mostly revolves around its devs, the gameplay, and it's community
long goblet
Well, the Mi-8 CAS in GE defo uses exactly same assets that are in the base game, it's just that iirc they cobbled them together themselves
might be wrong tho
long goblet
ok, ig I was wrong
high warren
Again being Derivative is in GEs blood
long goblet
lmao, not wrong
high warren
It's not a bad thing, but it staggers me how many people glaze tf out of this mod
Especially after the devs of it decided to remove vehicle ticket cost (tho It does seem that this move caused more people to notice its flaws)
long goblet
I wouldn't call it the most controversial thing about GE, but for sure
high warren
I mean there's also the devs sneaking in advertisements for their own servers into the mod that had it automatically play in other servers (a thing that violates the server ToS)
And when OWI asked them to remove it from the mod, the devs made it seem like OWI was taking the mod down for no reason which really sent GE fans into the most insane frenzy I've seen from a video game community. The amount of times I saw people saying "OWI took the mod down cause it was getting popular than the base game" was too high
long goblet
they didn't JUST put adds for their own servers, they made it so the add was replacing text in the voting, iirc
high warren
Incredible
lime gust
That'd out right make them conventional
Wpmc had heli but they unconv too
high warren
Wpmc had heli but they unconv too
They're unique in that case MIL doesnt need a heli
