[Faction Suggestion] French Army (Armée de Terre)

[loud forge]

This post presents a detailed suggestion for adding the French Army (Armée de Terre) as a playable faction in Squad. The goal is to stay as close as possible to real-world organization, equipment, and combat doctrine, while adapting it to the gameplay environment of Squad.

📘 Table of Contents:

• History (Armée de Terre) / Operational Role & Real-World Engagements
• Equipment – Small Arms
• Equipment – Vehicles
• Tactical Role & Gameplay Integration
• Regiment List & In-Game Loadouts

Each section will be developed individually and thoroughly, based on real military structure and strategic gameplay considerations.

I invite you to wait for me to finish before communicating in the lounge. I will make a conclusion to warn you

1. History (Armée de Terre) / Operational Role & Real-World Engagements

After World War II, the French Army (Armée de Terre) underwent significant structural changes to adapt to evolving geopolitical and military challenges. Initially engaged in colonial conflicts such as Indochina and Algeria, it gradually shifted its focus toward conventional warfare, particularly during the Cold War era.

A major turning point came in 1996, when France abolished conscription and transitioned to a fully professional army. This reform triggered a wide-scale modernization of command structures, equipment, and operational doctrines. The goal was to build a more agile, responsive force capable of rapid global deployment.

Since the early 2000s, the French Army has been actively involved in numerous overseas operations, often in asymmetric environments. Key missions include Operation Licorne in Côte d'Ivoire, Operation Serval and later Barkhane in Mali and the Sahel, NATO’s ISAF mission in Afghanistan, and Operation Chammal in Iraq and Syria.

While maintaining a strong capacity for counter-insurgency, the French Army is fundamentally structured for combined arms operations, emphasizing close coordination between infantry, armored units, artillery, and reconnaissance. The Scorpion program, launched in the 2010s, reflects France’s ambition to transition into a modern, digitally connected battlefield force.

Today, the Armée de Terre is considered one of Europe’s most experienced and combat-ready ground forces, capable of adapting to a wide range of combat environments—from urban warfare to desert operations and hybrid threats.

**Pictures : ** Ministry of the Armed Forces

2. Equipment (Weapon)

Comparison of French and American Weapons in Squad

In this section, we will compare the main weapons of the French Army with similar weapons used by the U.S. Army in Squad. The goal is to position each French weapon within a gameplay context, helping the developers better integrate these pieces of equipment into the game.

For each French weapon, we will identify an equivalent U.S. weapon in Squad, considering factors like role, range, rate of fire, power, and tactical use. This comparison will help understand how each French weapon matches up with the options already available in the game and where it could fit into modern combat scenarios.

We will go through each weapon one by one to ensure every piece of equipment is accurately represented and provides a realistic and balanced experience for players.

FAMAS F1 (France)

The FAMAS F1 is a bullpup assault rifle with a high rate of fire, ideal for close-quarters combat, using 5.56mm ammunition. The M16 is a more traditional design, known for its accuracy at medium range, also chambered in 5.56mm but with a lower rate of fire. Both serve similar roles, but the FAMAS excels in close combat, while the M16 is more precise at longer ranges.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

HK416F (France / manufacturing : Germany)

The HK416F is the standard assault rifle of the French Army, known for its reliability, accuracy, and improved gas system. Chambered in 5.56mm, it excels in both close-quarters and medium-range combat. The M4A1 is the U.S. Army's standard-issue rifle, also chambered in 5.56mm, with similar reliability and versatility, but the HK416F is slightly more accurate due to its enhanced system.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

GLOCK 17 Gen 5 (France / manufacturing : Austria)

The GLOCK 17 Gen 5 is a semi-automatic pistol used by the French Army, known for its durability, accuracy, and improved trigger system. It features a 9mm caliber and is reliable in various conditions. The M17 is the U.S. Army's standard-issue pistol, also chambered in 9mm, with modular design features for customization. Both pistols offer similar performance, but the M17 provides more modularity.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

SCAR-H PR (France / Manufacturing: Belgium)

The SCAR-H PR are both battle rifles chambered in 7.62mm, designed for medium to long-range engagements with high power and accuracy. The M110 SASS, used by the U.S. Army, is also a 7.62mm designated marksman rifle, known for precision at long distances. While both French rifles excel in firepower and range, the M110 SASS has an edge in terms of specialized long-range accuracy for precision shooting.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

PGM Hécate II (France)

The PGM Hécate II is a powerful anti-material rifle chambered in .50 BMG, designed for long-range engagements with extreme precision. It is known for its ability to disable vehicles, equipment, and long-range targets with high-caliber firepower. The rifle's design focuses on accuracy and stopping power at distances well beyond typical small arms, making it a unique and formidable weapon in modern warfare.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

ERYX (France)

The ERYX is a man-portable, short-range anti-tank guided missile system used by the French Army. It is designed to engage armored vehicles and fortifications with high precision using a fire-and-forget system. The ERYX is known for its effectiveness in close-range combat, offering excellent target engagement capabilities.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

FN Minimi (France / Manufacturing: Belgium)

The FN Minimi and the M249 are both light machine guns chambered in 5.56mm, designed to provide suppressive fire and support infantry units. The FN Minimi is highly versatile, capable of both bipod and belt-fed configurations. The M249 is the U.S. Army’s counterpart, known for its reliability and sustained fire in various combat scenarios. Both guns are similar in their role, but the M249 has a slightly higher weight and is more commonly used in a bipod-mounted configuration compared to the Minimi, which offers more flexibility in mobility.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

Equipment Overview (France)

The following specialized pieces of equipment are currently available in Squad for other factions or through the construction system, but they are not yet part of the French Army's arsenal. These items, if integrated, would provide additional tactical flexibility to the French Army, allowing for enhanced support and combat capabilities.

**AT-4CS: **A man-portable anti-tank rocket launcher, designed to engage armored vehicles and fortifications at short to medium ranges. It features a reduced backblast system, making it suitable for use in confined spaces. While currently available for other factions, it could be integrated into the French Army’s equipment in the future.

**MAG 58 (Bunker HESCO): **A 7.62mm general-purpose machine gun, typically mounted on defensive structures such as HESCO bunkers, providing suppressive fire at long ranges. This is available to other factions but would be a useful addition to French defensive setups.

**Mo 81 LLR F1: **A French 81mm mortar system designed for indirect fire support, ideal for suppression and anti-personnel actions. This mortar system is currently absent in-game but could be reworked and integrated for use by the French Army.

**MORTIER de 120mm: **A heavy 120mm mortar system used for long-range fire support. It excels at targeting enemy positions, fortifications, and vehicles. While available for other factions, this mortar system could significantly enhance the French Army’s long-range suppression capabilities.

**MILAN (France / Manufacturing: France): **The MILAN is a man-portable anti-tank guided missile system, similar in role to the TOW system used by other factions. It is designed to engage and destroy armored vehicles at long distances, offering high precision and effectiveness. While the TOW is available to certain factions, the MILAN would provide a comparable capability for the French Army’s anti-tank needs.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

3. Equipment (Vehicle)

Comparison of French and American Vehicles in Squad

In this section, we will compare the main vehicles used by the French Army with similar vehicles used by the U.S. Army in Squad. The goal is to position each French vehicle within a gameplay context, helping the developers better integrate these vehicles into the game.

For each French vehicle, we will identify an equivalent U.S. vehicle in Squad, considering factors like role, mobility, firepower, armor, and tactical use. This comparison will help understand how each French vehicle matches up with the options already available in the game and where it could fit into modern combat scenarios.

We will go through each vehicle one by one to ensure every piece of equipment is accurately represented and provides a realistic and balanced experience for players.

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GBC-180 (France)

The GBC-180 is a versatile 4x4 tactical vehicle used by the French Army, designed for transport and logistical support. It can carry heavy loads and is commonly used for troop transport, resupply missions, and as a platform for various military applications. The M939 is the U.S. Army’s counterpart, serving a similar role in transport and logistics. Both vehicles are equipped with all-terrain capabilities, enabling them to operate in challenging environments. While the GBC-180 is slightly more compact and has a higher payload capacity, the M939 offers more flexibility with its modular configurations, allowing for different military equipment to be mounted.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

VAB (Véhicule de l'Avant Blindé) (France)

The VAB is a 4x4 armored vehicle used by the French Army, designed primarily for troop transport, reconnaissance, and combat support roles. It offers a balance of mobility, armor, and payload capacity, making it highly versatile in various operational environments. The M1151 is a 4x4 armored utility vehicle used by the U.S. Army, commonly referred to as the "Up-armored HMMWV." It is primarily used for troop transport, reconnaissance, and light combat duties. While both vehicles have similar roles, the VAB is more heavily armored and designed for a wider range of missions, including peacekeeping operations, while the M1151 offers a modular design for various weapon systems and is known for its tactical versatility, especially in more rugged environments.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

VBMR Griffon (Véhicule blindé multi-rôles) (France)

The VBMR Griffon is an 6x6 armored vehicle used by the French Army, designed for troop transport, reconnaissance, and support roles in modern warfare. It is highly versatile, offering strong mobility, protection, and the ability to carry a variety of weapon systems and equipment. The M-ATV (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected All-Terrain Vehicle) is a highly mobile, mine-resistant vehicle used by the U.S. military for similar roles, including troop transport and reconnaissance. While both vehicles are built for survivability and mobility in challenging environments, the GRIFFON is larger and more heavily armored, designed to provide more extensive protection in various combat scenarios, including urban and asymmetrical warfare. The M-ATV, meanwhile, is more specialized in mine and IED protection, offering enhanced survivability in areas with a high threat of improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

VBCI (France)

The VBCI (Véhicule Blindé de Combat d’Infanterie) is an 8x8 wheeled infantry fighting vehicle designed for frontline troop transport and support. It features modular armor, advanced sensors, and typically mounts a 25mm or 40mm autocannon, offering strong fire support and survivability. The M2A3 Bradley, a tracked infantry fighting vehicle, fulfills a similar frontline role in the U.S. Army. It is equipped with a 25mm Bushmaster cannon, TOW missile launcher, and heavy armor. While the VBCI trades some armor protection for greater strategic mobility and road speed due to its wheeled design, both vehicles serve the same purpose: delivering infantry into battle while providing firepower and protection.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

AMX 10 RC[R SEPAR] (France)

The AMX 10 RC is a 6x6 wheeled reconnaissance and fire support vehicle equipped with a 105mm gun, used by the French Army for armored reconnaissance, rapid deployment, and fire support. It combines mobility, firepower, and a relatively light profile, making it ideal for hit-and-run tactics and fast-moving operations. The M1128 Mobile Gun System, part of the Stryker family, also mounts a 105mm cannon and serves a similar fire support role within U.S. Stryker brigades. Both vehicles prioritize mobility and firepower over heavy armor, with the AMX 10 RC leaning more toward reconnaissance and the M1128 MGS toward direct infantry support in urban and open environments.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

AMX-56 Leclerc (France)

The Leclerc is France’s main battle tank (MBT), designed for high mobility, advanced fire control, and precision firepower. It is equipped with a 120mm smoothbore cannon, autoloader, modular armor, and cutting-edge optics, making it one of the most modern and agile MBTs in service. The M1A2 Abrams, the U.S. counterpart, is renowned for its survivability, heavy armor, and battlefield dominance. It also mounts a 120mm gun but uses a manually loaded system, with additional armor weight and powerful turbine propulsion. While the Abrams is known for brute force and heavy protection, the Leclerc emphasizes speed, automation, and digital integration, offering a more nimble and tech-driven approach to armored warfare.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

NH90 Caïman (France / Manufacturing: France/Germany/Italy/Netherlands)

The NH90 Caïman is a modern multi-role helicopter used by the French Army and Navy for transport, medevac, and support missions. It features advanced avionics, fly-by-wire controls, and can carry up to 20 troops or cargo. The MH-60 Black Hawk fulfills a similar tactical role for the U.S. military, known for its reliability, versatility, and widespread deployment. While both helicopters are highly capable in battlefield logistics and air assault roles, the NH90 offers more modern onboard systems and greater payload flexibility, whereas the MH-60 benefits from decades of combat-proven performance and modularity.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

Vehicle Overview (France)

The following French vehicles, either already featured in Squad for other factions or not yet implemented, represent important additions that could enrich the tactical depth and authenticity of the French Army faction. Integrating these assets would provide more operational flexibility and help represent the full spectrum of France’s modern ground capabilities.

**VBL (Véhicule Blindé Léger): **A light armored reconnaissance and command vehicle, highly mobile and versatile. The VBL is ideal for scouting, liaison, and light support missions. While similar vehicles exist in Squad, the VBL would fill a unique niche in French reconnaissance roles.

**Jaguar EBRC: **A state-of-the-art 6x6 reconnaissance and combat vehicle equipped with a 40mm CTA cannon and anti-tank missiles. The Jaguar would offer the French Army an advanced armored fire support platform, complementing heavier assets like the Leclerc. This vehicle is not yet available in Squad but would be a valuable future addition.

**SA 330 Puma: **The SA 330 Puma is a French military transport helicopter used for troop deployment, logistics, and medical evacuations. While not currently present in Squad, its addition would provide the French faction with a versatile aerial transport option, comparable to the UH-60 Black Hawk. The Puma would be instrumental in providing mobility for infantry, logistical support, and rapid insertion/extraction capabilities in battle.

**VT4: **A light 4x4 vehicle used for troop transport, logistics, and liaison tasks. Comparable in function to the Humvee or UAZ, the VT4 would serve as a fast, unarmored utility vehicle for rear-line operations and support logistics.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

4. Tactical Role & Gameplay Integration

In this section, we will define and design the potential kits for the French Army within Squad. The goal is to establish the tactical roles and equipment each kit would bring to the battlefield, aligning them with the gameplay mechanics and ensuring a balanced and immersive experience for players.

Each kit will be evaluated based on its role in combat, the weapons and equipment it should carry, and how it fits within the French Army’s tactical doctrine. We will also focus on how these kits interact with existing factions and create diverse gameplay experiences.

This process will include determining which weapons, tools, and abilities are assigned to each kit, and clarifying the strategic importance of each role in modern military operations.

Command and Support

**Squad Leader Kit : **The Squad Leader kit includes the FAMAS F1 or HK416F, both suitable for short to medium-range combat. Optics options like red dot sights and medium-range scopes are available. This gives flexibility in engagements while maintaining leadership functionality on the battlefield.

**Lead Crewman and Crewman Kit : **The Crewman kit is equipped with the FAMAS F1 and a short-range sight. This kit is designed for armored vehicle crews, focusing on mobility and close-quarters combat while operating inside or around vehicles.

**Lead Pilot and Pilot Kit : **The Pilot kit comes with the FAMAS F1 and a short-range sight. This kit is tailored for helicopter pilots, providing basic personal defense in case of emergencies while focused on aerial operations.

**Medic Kit : **The Medic kit is equipped with either the FAMAS F1 or the HK416F, both with medium-range optics. This setup allows the medic to provide support and defense while focusing on healing and reviving teammates.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

Direct Combat

**Rifleman Kit : **The Rifleman kit is equipped with either the FAMAS F1 or HK416F, with both short and medium-range optics. This setup provides versatility for engaging enemies at varying distances.

**Automatic Rifleman Kit: **The Automatic Rifleman kit is equipped with the FN Minimi with a medium-range optic. This setup provides sustained suppressive fire and support for the squad in combat situations.

**Grenadier Kit: **The Grenadier kit is equipped with either the HK416F or FAMAS F1, along with the LGI Mle F1 grenade launcher. This setup allows for both rifle engagements and the ability to launch grenades for suppression and anti-personnel roles.

**Light Anti-Tank Kit: **The Light Anti-Tank kit is equipped with either the HK416F or FAMAS F1, along with the AT4CS anti-tank rocket launcher. This setup provides both versatile rifle fire and the capability to engage armored vehicles at medium ranges.

**Marksman Kit: **The Marksman kit is equipped with the SCAR-H PR and medium to long-range optics. This setup allows for precision engagements at extended distances, providing support for the squad with accurate fire against enemy targets.

**Sniper Kit: **The Sniper kit is equipped with the PGM Hécate II, a long-range precision rifle. This setup allows the sniper to engage targets at extreme distances with high accuracy, providing critical support for the squad by neutralizing key threats.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

Specialist

**Machine Gunner Kit: **The Machine Gunner kit is equipped with the FN Minimi and a medium-range optic. This setup allows for sustained suppressive fire, offering the squad critical support in both offensive and defensive operations.

**Heavy Anti-Tank Kit: **The Heavy Anti-Tank kit is equipped with either the FAMAS F1 or HK416F, along with the ERYX anti-tank missile system. This setup provides both rifle support and the capability to engage and neutralize heavily armored vehicles at long range.

**Combat Engineer Kit: **The Combat Engineer kit is equipped with either the FAMAS F1 or HK416F, along with explosives for demolitions and fortifications. This setup allows the engineer to support the squad with breaching, clearing obstacles, and providing defensive capabilities.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

[patent kiln]

yes

[loud forge]

5. Regiment List & In-Game Loadouts

In this section, we will provide a detailed list of the French regiments that could be represented in Squad, along with their respective vehicles and equipment. Each regiment’s loadout will be aligned with its real-world role and capabilities, offering players a more immersive and authentic experience. We will also outline the vehicles used by each regiment, ensuring a comprehensive understanding of their tactical deployment within the game.

France relies on regiments specialized in cavalry, such as the 501 RCC, and helicopter units like the 5ème RHC. Therefore, the comparison below may not be entirely accurate in terms of structure. However, since the main goal is to enjoy the game, we can overlook these discrepancies for the sake of gameplay.

6th Light Armored Brigade (6ème BLB) – 21st RIMa

The 21ème RIMa, part of the 6ème Brigade Légère Blindée, specializes in rapid and combined operations, with a strong emphasis on infantry capabilities. Theoretically, this brigade could be equipped with modern vehicles such as the VBL, VBCI, Leclerc, GBC-180, as well as the PUMA and Griffon, replacing the VAB. While these vehicles are not actually used by this unit in reality, their inclusion in the game would highlight the importance of armored support and mechanized infantry in their operations.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

[patent kiln]

bro

stop

[loud forge]

1st Paratrooper Brigade (1ère Brigade Parachutiste) – 3rd Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment (3ème Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine)

The 3ème Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine, part of the 1ère Brigade Parachutiste, is specialized in rapid and light infantry operations. This faction could theoretically be equipped with vehicles like the GBC-180, VAB, Griffon, and VBL, focusing on versatility and tactical mobility. It would be well-suited for scenarios with fewer players on the server, where smaller, faster-paced engagements are required. Their inclusion would offer players a highly mobile and flexible force, able to adapt to various battlefield environments.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

1st Armored Brigade (1ère Brigade Blindée) – 501st Tank Regiment (501e Régiment de Chars de Combat)

The 501e Régiment de Chars de Combat, part of the 1ère Brigade Blindée, specializes in armored warfare and mechanized combat. This faction would be equipped with heavy and light armored vehicles such as the VAB, VBL, GBC-180, AMX 10 RC, and the Leclerc tank. Their inclusion in the game would highlight the tactical power of a fully armored force, capable of dominating the battlefield with both mobility and firepower. This faction would be ideal for large-scale engagements with a focus on combined arms and armored assault tactics.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

[tame warren]

op, you are aware that there is already a french faction mod that is pretty much entirely complete and can be played right now, no?

[loud forge]

4th Airmobile Brigade (4e Brigade d’Aérocombat) – 5th Combat Helicopter Regiment (5e Régiment d’Hélicoptères de Combat)

The 5e Régiment d’Hélicoptères de Combat, part of the 4e Brigade d’Aérocombat, is a unit specialized in battlefield aviation and aerial support. While primarily focused on helicopter operations, this regiment would also rely on supporting ground vehicles such as the VAB, VBL, GBC-180, and AMX 10 RC, with aerial mobility provided by the Puma and NH90 helicopters. In-game, this faction would shine in roles requiring rapid mobility, insertion, and close air support capabilities.

**Pictures : **Ministry of the Armed Forces

[tame warren]

i mean, no hate on you for making this post since it probably took a while to make, but its really just a matter of the devs buying out the mod and adding the french in game with some adjustments here and there

no, because to me this suggestion post seems kinda redundant considering the french faction mod exists

but thats merely my opinion

[loud forge]

Conclusion

France represents a highly capable and equipment-rich faction, backed by a strong national defense industry that designs and manufactures most of its own vehicles, weapons, and support systems. Unlike many other nations, France relies very little on foreign imports, which would bring a uniquely cohesive and independent arsenal to Squad. Integrating the French Army would not only diversify the available factions but also introduce a broad range of modern gear, vehicles, and tactical roles — offering players new gameplay experiences and deepening the game’s authenticity and variety.

Thank you for taking the time to consider this proposal. We hope it contributes to the continued evolution of Squad and its immersive battlefield experience.

[patent kiln]

where is jaguar

[whole briar]

Yes and no, yes you can technically play them, but need the supermod with all other factions that you may not want.

Integrating it into the base game would be a greate addition, especially for vanilla servers and make a really different faction. Not just another copy of US or Russia...

[whole briar]

Would be a great thing to do, especially to thank the mod makers for making a good job.

This suggestion seems here to show how a French faction would be nice to add to the base game, not specially on the "what to add"

[patent kiln]

im about mention in brigades

[whole briar]

ohhh, yes i see, imo i don't think the jaguar would be that much great of an addition, it would be like the CTAS, a bit too powerfull for their equivalents

[patent kiln]

WE NEED CTAS

GOD BLESS CTAS

CTAS MY BELOVED

I DONT EVEN PLAYED WHEN THERE WAS FV520 BUT I NEED THAT

[whole briar]

I love it too ! but I understand that it were too powerfull and not really into the game design (prototype)

[patent kiln]

jaguar is not a prototype

[whole briar]

it was fun, like a BMP fire rate, but with tank rounds xD

[patent kiln]

yes

i watched few videos

[whole briar]

yep but have the same weapon system

[patent kiln]

and it stayed in jensen range

jaguar can be same role as fv107

powerful gun

small armor

i mean

good gun

and small amount of hp

[whole briar]

nah, I would put it like the MGS and equivalents, anti tank but wheeled

[patent kiln]

amx-10rc

[whole briar]

yep, the jaguar was made to replace the AMX 10RC

[patent kiln]

maybe amx-10rcr or amx-10rc with TML-105

[tame warren]

I wasn't initially aware that the french faction mod has been absorb by supermod because before it was it's on standalone faction mod, regardless I still maintain my position that this post is redundant because TC (the modders who developed the french faction and supermod) have already developed the faction including 80% of all the equipment suggested in this post and have created appropriate battlegroups as seen in supermod, hence this lengthy post is kinda regurgitating an idea that has already been implemented in the game for a long while now.

Ideally, OP should've at least shouted out the french faction in supermod because to me that's pretty much how the faction should be like in Squad, and if the french were to be officially added into Squad then ideally all OWI has to do is just buy out the assets from the modders, just like how the Canadians and Aussies were done because that will incentivise the work of the modders and the devs don't have to put in the time and effort to create new weapons, uniforms, vehicles etc. for the faction itself

[patent kiln]

hahahahhah

goofy ahh turret

oh sweden

but they have cv90120

so no

[whole briar]

Exactly, like the Canadians, devs can buy it and it would be nice. We don't ask OWI to create a new faction from scratch, but to add this faction to the base game. Mods are good for variety but not very bug proof or stable, while vanilla ensure a stable, (almost) bug proof and balanced implementation.

Modders have their bias, like some mod teams would want a full realistic mod, even if its over powered compared to vanilla, while OWI would want a balanced faction.

Adding canadians to squads wasn't a bad idea, why not do the same with french ?

[patent kiln]

OWI is canadians, that is the only reason why they buy canadian faction

[whole briar]

technically its (kindof) the same, buy a faction from modders, this faction add a lot of new assets and could add some new mechanics

[tame warren]

I'm not against a french faction in squad, honestly I'm just kinda confused as to why it's taking so long for OWI to simply buy the assets for the french from TC and add them in asap (this is merely my assumption and does not reflect the actual reality of things so it could be far different than how I'm perceiving it).

However, I feel like the suggestion post op has made sort of brushes the fact that such a faction already exists (and is very complete for what it is), regardless if it's part of a mod, and makes it seem like the devs have to develop them from scratch, which if the devs wanna go that route then it's up to them, but I do think credit should be given to the modders who have already developed the faction and already provides a very good idea of what said faction brings to the game

[whole briar]

agreed

But i think FowzZie is aware of that said mod, usually people talking about a french faction know that a mod is existing.

For the "how long it gonna take", I think, either its too expensive, or they wait for the faction to be finished at 100%.
Taking account of a 3D model with texture, normals, animation, etc can easily be more than 20k€, buying such amount of models can become very very expensive. Maybe OWI doesn't have the funds to buy it in one go, so they could be blocked

[tame warren]

Maybe, but I feel like op could at least preface their post about the french faction mod thats available and maybe compare on how his take on the faction and the mod may differ, but I digress

[lyric kayak]

No to HK416, we already have enough of those rifles, lets keep it FAMAS only

[whole briar]

usually I would say yes but I'm biased I'm French xD
So I need to have a full implementation of the French Faction Xd

[patent kiln]

from cs we all know famas is bad rifle

will be like fn fal

[lyric kayak]

Because CS is a really good representation of how weapons handle

[lyric kayak]

Because a 5.56 Famas has the same recoil as 7.62 FAL

[whole briar]

The fal is technically great, but is used the same way as other rifles, so yes it makes it a bad rifle.

People run with a fal like its a basic 5.56 assault rifle, while they should use it like a marskman rifle, semi-auto, long range.

[whole briar]

The FAMAS is not a bad rifle for its time, but yes compared to new rifles like the HK416, its surely worse

[lyric kayak]

Sorry cant hear you slandering the FAMAS over my 1000 rounds per minute

[lean depot]

Nice. Just play supermod

It’s a fully custom and above OWI quality faction

[lean depot]

Also 3 Fire modes

[lean depot]

Or just allow the 2 time Tones

[short mantle]

HK416 🤮

[empty cypress]

Awesome work

[loud forge]

The HK416 is a good weapon. Did you know that the Marines use HK416 under the name M27 AIR?

[short mantle]

Yes

But it should be a Famas only faction when france inevitably gets bought by owi from TC

We have too many AR factions in game

[dusty drum]

uff he just called HK416 an AR.

[short mantle]

It basically is

[dusty drum]

Nah it is a better system disguised as AR

[short mantle]

Okay

In game it's just gonna play like the AR

[short mantle]

The jaguar is also really new

[small wharf]

In the same vein, instead of the MAG 58 maybe they could have the AA-52

[abstract sorrel]

up

[nimble mica]

I feel like a MAC MLE 1950 would be more interesting. The Glock only began replacing it and the PAMAS G1 (beretta 92 copy) in 2020.

[nimble mica]

I would also use the FAMAS F2 instead of the 416, primarily because it’s more interesting

Oh shit I didn’t realize this was an old post

[hidden minnow]

French shouldnt be using HK416s in game

FAMAS only

FAMAS F1 and FAMAS Valorisé