Double standarts in Squad

[blazing merlin]

T-62,Leopard 2 - You need to came off from tank to fire rooftop machine gun
T-72B3 - you dont need to get out from tank to fire rooftop machine gun (you need IRL)

[jagged fossil]

what?

[upbeat musk]

Pretty simple stuff Salsa you have to came off from tank to fire rooftop machine gun and you don't with T72

[blazing merlin]

yes

bad english

[jagged fossil]

oh, the t-62 has a RWS variant in MEA, it’s only imf and insurgent that have the open top hmg, leopard two simply just has a commander sight

[thorny pivot]

The RWS T-62 was removed when they added battlegroups afaik.

Yeah it would be good to remove the RWS from the T-72B3, also to differentiate the tanks more. The T-72S should keep it tho.

[jagged fossil]

Then the Abram’s should also have its rws removed, I can understand the leopard it needs a rws, but something as ancient as the t-62 doesn’t deserve one

Also the rws t-62 was never removed it was just placed in armored mea

[blazing merlin]

why?

abrams have rws

i will say you more

in much older t-64b you can control rooftop machine gun without getting out from tank

yes without camera

but

its 1976

[jagged fossil]

Am not gonna get into the lore of how ins or imf manage to get their hands on a t-62

[blazing merlin]

check this out

[jagged fossil]

I hope the leopard would have rws, but the t-62 for ins and imf doesn’t need an RWS.

[blazing merlin]

yes

[jagged fossil]

I never meant I wanted the Abrams to have its rws removed

I like Abram’s

[blazing merlin]

no

abrum

[jagged fossil]

[jagged fossil]

[elder marlin]

No I don't believe it was

[sturdy shell]

I think the MEA still has its special T-62

[polar fern]

also Abrams need some better shield for "loader"than we had in game

[north moat]

And this would also benefit future T- Series factions Like Ukraine bc the T-64 can also shoot the HMG from the inside

[sturdy shell]

Honestly I think removing the "rws" from the T-72B3 and T-72S would be a massive nerf

[narrow mirage]

It is

Eventually people need to drop their muh realism, muh authenticity

[polar fern]

agree,exactly its not fking war thunder or arma(but we all know what 2 persons defending realism in all cost in this server).for example i wanna see fv101 scorpion for british faction

[narrow mirage]

That's the other side of the coin, shit shouldn't be added "just cuz" but it should have a gameplay purpose.

The scorpion won't fix BAF

[polar fern]

sure,but replace 1 Scimitar to 1 Scorpion dont broke game, just some diversity,and small+fast bmp-1 analog look not bad

[polar fern]

few new things and bufs\nerf dont fix baf,they need some rework

[quaint flare]

What's wrong with wanting the FV101 Scorpion?

[polar fern]

idk both old like shit, but playable

[sturdy shell]

They stopped using them in the 90s

Or at the start of the 21st century

Looked it up

They were retired in 1994

[thorny pivot]

It is a minor issue when mapads arrive. The T72 and T90 should be set apart, currently they are identical. And having two identical tanks serves no purpose.

[sturdy shell]

I don't think nerfing the T-72B3 is the way to do it

[polar fern]

How terrible, yet it doesn't stop him from being IN GAME

[sturdy shell]

Ah yes a bunch of 2015ish era British soldiers running around and a vehicle they decommissioned in the mid 90s suddenly pulls up helping them.

Ya could at least ask for the MEA to have the scorpion

And not the country that got rid of them 20 years ago when the devs started making the game

[polar fern]

fun fact fv101 and fv107 almost the same age, the difference is actually about 1 year,but main difference in main gun,scimitar same old crap like scorpion

[sturdy shell]

The scimitar is still in service though

Or rather only retired from service about a year ago

[harsh iris]

They put them Scorpions in storage

[polar fern]

very cool but its hard to call them modern ifv like anything else what in service few ears ago,rangefinder in fv107 its not not a privilege, but a must for relatively modern armored vehicles,did scimi had any else cool?no
did fv101 equad to fv107,ye, then why its cant be in GAME

[polar fern]

scimitars too

[harsh iris]

Now yea. They were still in service for a lot longer than the Scorp.

RARDEN >>> 76mm

sucks in game though. barely can handle a fight against a wheeled .50 or 12.7mm

[sturdy shell]

Cause the Brits retired it? Idk why this is a hard question?

[polar fern]

particly yes but 76mm had some advantages

[sturdy shell]

Plus I only think the 76mm could fire HESH and smoke rounds

[harsh iris]

Yes, but as armor disparity grew 76mm no longer stood out

30mm much more versatile

[polar fern]

had situation when china logi truck ignore 4 HE rounds right in driver💀💀💀

[sturdy shell]

I'm not against the MEA having it at all

Just britian shouldn't get it

[polar fern]

HE too

[polar fern]

MEA can get more interesting vehicles than 101s baf not

[sturdy shell]

Yea

I see nothing wrong with the MEA getting an FV101

It's just that it's a bit wacky for the Brits to have it. It's a vehicle that was put out of service a long time ago

[polar fern]

cadillac gage commando/scout had a lot of chance to be in

[polar fern]

they allready had bmp1 with stab lol

[polar fern]

relax its game

[sturdy shell]

I am relaxed you seem like the only one that's a bit upset cause the scorpion was put out of service several decades ago?

[sturdy shell]

That is true, maybe air assault could have it?

[polar fern]

unfeasible for someone))))

[polar fern]

ratter no but damn i dont ask armata or abras x with spaceships

[sturdy shell]

But this ain't a conversation about future equipment/tech demonstrators/money laundering schemes

[polar fern]

absolutely

[polar fern]

mean it ratter some issues with game engine,most the funniest shit in squad its what u already dead after 10sec underwater and you break into bloody pieces from a fall from 3 meters as if it was a fall from at least 8

[sturdy shell]

I mean it makes sense to get fucked up for HATs or MGs for falling

But the other classes not so much

[sturdy shell]

Anywho going back to what I was talking about earlier, I think removing the Commanders RWS from the T-72S and B3 is probably a bad idea and a massive nerf to both vehicles (And a massive Nerf to the MEA)