G3 and MPT

[mint aspen]

Yes. I am once again complaining about the TLF. It was supposed to be infantry strong but other than the funny GL its not really infantry strong at all. The WPMC faction for example is. They get lots of variety of guns including the m14 that is the same calibre as the MPT but is SO MUCH MORE CONTROLLABLE. Why not just do this with the g3 and MPT?? Whats the point of having a faction that no one likes or plays? I can accept TLF armour being weak but at least compensate for it. Having no HAT kit is the opposite of a faction that is infantry strong. The MEA is still ejoyable because they still have good Armour and AT but the TLF is just almost never played. Please add a HAT kit for all TLF unit types and reduce recoil/sway of the MPT to something like the m14. Even cooler would be adding the leo2a4 and kirpi.

[junior sand]

Yea I always liked playing MEA because using the G3 pre ICO was so fun

[mint aspen]

hopefully this gets addressed

[cloud briar]

G3, FAL and MPT should be as good as M14 but max damage has to be decreased back to 86 in my opinion

[tall cipher]

nope nope nope i do NOT want my 20 round sledgehammer back down to pussyfooting 556 levels of damage...

[cloud briar]

Dont care didnt ask, OHK mechanic was a bandaid fix to its shit handling

And is inconsistant as hell, under 20m OHK, 20.1m back to 86 max damage

[charred fulcrum]

M14 on full auto isn’t controllable

[cloud briar]

Semi auto is far more controllable compared to G3, MPT and FAL

[grave talon]

G3 should still have that 1 tap under 25m or what ever the range was

[cloud briar]

Why only G3 tho, FAL MPT and M14 all use same ammo

[grave talon]

Ye. Only G3.

[cloud briar]

They shouldnt be OHK up to 20m its just bad gameplay design

[grave talon]

Nah

[cloud briar]

Yah

[grave talon]

It’s good. Bc they lack CQB weapons

[cloud briar]

So do Turks?

[grave talon]

Nope

[cloud briar]

Only one kit gets a SMG and thats it

[grave talon]

They got that smg

[cloud briar]

Wow such a difference

[grave talon]

Ikr

[cloud briar]

MEA get SMGs now too with crewman and pilot kits

[grave talon]

Well if they add it to medic and SL then ye. But otherwise I really like MEA rn. The sway and recoil is just a bit too high

But the one taps are very good aswell as the hip fire

[cloud briar]

All battle rifles should be similar to M14 in terms of recoil and sway

All BRs should not be OHK up to 20m anymore if you buff them like that

Its a bandaid fix when G3 and FAL were awful to use

[mint aspen]

i think the recoil should be m14 level and damage kept the same but i wouldnt mind if damage was lowered if that means we get a controllable gun

and yea FAL too, i forgot to mention that in my original post

[cloud briar]

You cant make it that good to use and keep the damage it would be completely broken

[mint aspen]

still way more controllable than the MPT on semi

[mint aspen]

true, thats a fair point

as long as the weapon is controllable, i dont mind putting another round into the enemy

[ivory sluice]

I love 7.62s for their OHK
Wouldn't be as satisfying otherwise

[cloud briar]

Feelings dont matter, if a gun is easier to use the bandaid fix, being OHK up to 20m, needs to be removed otherwise it would be broken OP compared to other weapons

On top of that that OHK mechanic is inconsistant, it goes from 165 max damage to 86 past 20.001m

Its basically a clif drop from 165 to 86 making it inconsistant because players might thing “thats under 20m” just to hit someone and them going brrrrt

It was never a good “buff” for BRs, it was inconsistant for OHKs and inconsistant across other 7.62 weapons

[bleak gull]

TLF should get a few MPT-55 kits

[mint aspen]

OHK hard to control weapons are all fun until you have to aim for a head poking out of a window and it takes you 10 secs to stabalise

[cloud briar]

Oh for sure

[mint aspen]

would be nice also, but i think first things first is to reduce MPT76 recoil and sway

[opaque otter]

Fr

[mint aspen]

and some kits having a 30rnd mag with MPT55 would be a great addition on top

[bleak gull]

I think the damage-stability trade-off is fine, we should just have an alternative for it.

[mint aspen]

instead of the jandarma role they could just give some roles the option to take the smg

[mint aspen]

I dont think so. even for ICO standards its too much and it just screws you over in engagements that are close to medium range most of the time. Getting the first shot on the enemy and following it up with a second one using an m4 is was more advantagouse than trying to aim the MPT

there just is no reason to have an uncontrollable rifle in the game thats no fun. specially when the m14 is so easy to control

[vocal saffron]

Honestly it might be better for all 7.62 weapons to have a damage of like 94 so you have a lot less time before you bleed out compared to 5.56, that way 7.62 weapons aren't literal one shotters and can be made to handle reasonably and have okay recoil, but also have a benefit of always two shotting and being able to one shot anyone who's already taken light damage

[cloud briar]

You know what that would be perfect

[vocal saffron]

Maybe we should post that as a suggestion then

[cloud briar]

Ill do it

[mint aspen]

I agree with this man

[mint aspen]

This suggestion being implemented + remove jandarma role and make smg and mpt55 available to some of the roles. Same with mea, make it so they get more mp5's in their infantry squads I think

[grave talon]

Jandarme is fine. They should just add things like a flash grenade maybe.

Although it would be pretty useless lol

[mint aspen]

Jandarma doesn't fit and they probably just wanted a role with the smg. Just let rifleman or medics take it imo

But honestly Idm if it stays idrc

[grave talon]

I think they added it bc it’s an anti insurgency role

Maybe with the idea in mind of fixing the insurgency mode

Bc the whole faction just gives counter terrorism vibes imo

[mint aspen]

Yea I mean, the m60t and Huey are older Vic's only really used in counter insurgency. It's pretty dumb that they don't get to use the leopard (thankfully they added the Blackhawk tho)

[grave talon]

Also no HAT indicates it

Bc irl laws and AT4s are pretty commonly used as Anti inf and anti material weapons

And they would be more useful in urban areas instead of a heavy Hat launcher