Upgrade the building system

[indigo surge]

The building system is nice and all but there should be more. Many people are building walls made out of sandbags because they are cheap and good to use so why not add these things as pre made things, also with things like corners and other types of wall. While doing that maybe also add the camouflage nets to all factions as these are so cool to use and really practical.

[opal patio]

We need more variety

[spare vector]

Most emplacements are a meme, we don't need more things for people to waste supply on other than the 3 most important: HAB, Ammo box, repair station.

Also let's not spread camo nets, it's one of the few cool things IMF has to distinguish itself.

[opal patio]

Insurgent should get the big one imo. And insurgents need way more to build. IFS, more barricades, more emplacements, they lack things with cover from above

[rancid gate]

99% of buildings are useless, except hasco tower, it will be glad to see trenches in game instead useless buildings, but this is impossible

[indigo surge]

Waste supplies lol, seems like you dont know how to use emplacements.

[indigo surge]

99%? Dude you should really learn to use buildings, sandbags alone are extreamly usefull as they are quick and cheap to build and give you cover from enemy fire, they can even have holes so you can easily shoot the enemy without them seeing or being able to hit you. with the ICO thats extreamly valuable.

[rancid gate]

mb in inv w newbie milsimers, but not in normal raas game, 99% of buimdings players dont use

[lapis notch]

INS needs a complete top to bottom overhaul

[lapis notch]

It's not that they're a "waste", it's that they are lower priority than basically anything else that costs build on a fob

Fob priorities:

1. Hab
2. Ammo crates (as many as are reasonable)
3. Access tools (ladders to get over walls to help flow of spawns to flag)
4. Repair station
5. Mortars
6. ATGM/other AT
7. Fortifications

Most fobs will never see enough build to get halfway down the list

Also if you build an obs tower on an attack hab you are trolling and deserve to be kicked

[bitter thunder]

Between 6 and 7 I would put "Backup FOB" and "Attack FOBs" as well.

Fortifications are only viable when you have tons of supplies, all the other logis are doing useful things and your cap is not under attack.

[lapis notch]

Yeah as in putting supplies back in the truck, even just holding in reserve in case your fob dies. I agree.

[indigo surge]

Dude you have no idea what you are even talking about.

Especially when the supplies are in shortage the fortifications will make defending any position a piece of cake. When done right they easily reduce casualties and used ammunition.

[pine vessel]

Nope fortifications make defending shit obnoxious

[bitter thunder]

The point is that they are uneconomical, not that they are useless.

[pine vessel]

Goodbye to your fortifications when it gets proxied immediately

“you blocked all exits? how are we supposed to get out! its a meat grinder here!”
“fortifications sasha, fortifications”

[bitter thunder]

They are just a nice to have, the map design offers plenty of good positions to defend caps, which are only insignificantly worse than fortifications with camo net.

[lapis notch]

Placing your fob properly in a good spot with strong natural defenses is more than enough in 95% of scenarios even on invasion

[indigo surge]

Maybe for noobs who only build towers but for good players who use them right they do theyre job and they do it cheap.

[pine vessel]

Towers are the only useful things

[bitter thunder]

Unless the other team as some experienced players as well, who just walk around fortifications.

[indigo surge]

Thats not the fortifications fault but noobs not knowing how to use the building system properly.

[lapis notch]

If you upgrade the building system you aren't going to solve that problem, just make it worse, because they will spam more shit

[indigo surge]

And with fortifications you dont need to care about natural defenses you make your own.

[pine vessel]

all people who use fortifications are noobs only in a rarity is it good

[indigo surge]

Shows you dont know how to build.

[lapis notch]

Ever heard of artillery? Mortars?

[pine vessel]

Yep because this game isnt about buildinf

Please dont get in my games

I dont want to be mortared to hell

[lapis notch]

This guy must exclusively play invasion defense

[pine vessel]

Even invasion defense sucks because you get mortared to hell with it being harder to escape

Since bobby over here wanted to play some tactical minecraft

[indigo surge]

Artillery? Just use the fortifications to build bunkers. Mortars? just build a few Sandbags and only direct hits will kill you but shrapnels wont be an issue.

[pine vessel]

Or or or!!

Dont build so people can run easily!!

People only die to mortars because they stay there too long

[bitter thunder]

Or, just place a sneaky FOB with a HAB + ammo crate, spread out your defense around the cap, build a backup FOB with the build you have, and defend the point properly.

[pine vessel]

Seriously no one is hiding in a bunker

You have objectives to play

[indigo surge]

Dude with every message you show that you have no idea how to play the game.

[bitter thunder]

Instead of having your FOB instantly proxied, because a heli saw it across the map and half the Squad had shovels in their hands when the attackers overwhelmed them with the first wave.

[pine vessel]

Okay, enjoy tactical minecraft

[lapis notch]

Yeah, build enough sandbags and you'll crash the server when they get hit with artillery- free "winz"

[lapis notch]

Idk why these people don't just play roblox

[bitter thunder]

There is a reason why Fortifications are rarely used in comp games.

They are simply not worth the cost at the moment.

[pine vessel]

I heard construction roleplay was looking for members

[bitter thunder]

To make fortifications viable, they would have to be much cheaper, not confict with important structures or the map design would have to change so that fortifications are actually necessary to defend caps.

[pine vessel]

Please dont make them cheaper

[lapis notch]

They already did that, twice

Fortifications will never be a high priority because this game is about capzones not fobs

[pine vessel]

All that will do is have more blueberries block all entrances forcing you to jump out and deal with the sway from fall damage

[indigo surge]

Then learn to play the game.

If you only play with noobs get better and play with skilled people.

[pine vessel]

Whats to learn from there 🤣? Seriously you’re arguments are getting worse by the second

[pine vessel]

Seems you have never played the game

[lapis notch]

*only played potato fields 3

[pine vessel]

Proper rage bait 9/10

Fell for it

[indigo surge]

Said the noob who cant handle a few fortifications 😂

[pine vessel]

Almost fell for that bait

Nice try

[bitter thunder]

Calling other players noobs, especially players who probably have more experience in the game, instead of providing proper counter arguments does not make your own statements more convincing btw.

[trail leaf]

Fortificaties aren't worth it most of the time

[opal patio]

Yeah. I made a big suggestion for that

[spare vector]

You’re probably the SL or god forbid FTL placing stupid walls/sandbags/wire preventing us from building the actually important things

[slender raven]

never saw squad as a building sim i thought we was shooting people

[hard scroll]

Nah bro this game is like Minecraft for people that like pillow forts.