shovel as weapon

[crimson silo]

Being able to hit somebody with your shovel would be a nice realistic feature. Of course it should deal less damage than a knife. (Maybe a slower rate of fire than the knife,too.)
This would be very helpful in various situations. For example when digging down a radio and getting surprised by the enemy. Switching to a different weapon takes much longer than striking with your shovel.

[dusty hawk]

Also ability to throw the shovel as russian or MIL, with the disadvantage to have to ream it at an ammocreate and to explain to the SL why you cant shovel down the enemy radio lol.

[copper latch]

Shovel already uses your fire/alt fire. I guess you could give it “firemodes”? I worry that this will just end up causing teamkills “oops my shovel was still in combat mode”

The knife already has a pretty short equip time, it’s probably not that much worse in that situation. Also you deserve to die if you’re solo on a radio and someone surprises you, lol.

[fallen pivot]

This was promised by devs in old forum.

[limber fossil]

I think the whole reason you cant kill with the showel is due to them wanting you to be caught with your pants down its the whole risk vs reward thing

[dusty hawk]

If you win with with a shovel against someone with an rifle, you absolutely deserve the kill imo.

[limber fossil]

I think it removes the risk-reward part of digging down a radio. Yes its very powerfull if you pull it of but you are in a very compromised situation telling everyone you are doing it by audio and radio health bar

[dusty hawk]

I do not understand this comment.

[limber fossil]

When digging down a radio its a huge risk as people can hear you digging it down and can see it on the radio healtbar and you are defenseless with the shovel

But the reward is also huge as its 20 tickets and will severely set back the enemy team might even temporarily take a vich out of match as its now has to RTB for repairs instead of sit on the repair bay

If you then all the sudden can banzai charge the guy about to stop you then the risk factor goes down and then its not a balanced risk to reward as it will be less risky as you are no longer defenceless

[dusty hawk]

Well, I still think it would be a deserved victory, if the guy who can hear you and knows exactly where you are, fails to kill you with a rifle when you charge him with a shovel.

Anyway, this proposal was not that serious.