Range finders

[grave hawk]

Irl snipers have a spotter so in place of that possibly we could get a range finder mounted to the sight mount or in place of the binoculars for the marksman/sniper kit with less zoom, only for the more modern factions of course.

[sinful sigil]

You really used the Secret Service dudes from the Trump shooting lmfaaaooooooo

[plain basalt]

This assasination attempt is the perfect example why marksmans and snipers suck:

• The agents did not even see the shooter
• The shooter missed.

Literally 2x marksmeme skill issue

[sinful sigil]

Depends on if you believe the official story or not. I personally do.

The official story is that there were supposed to be local police snipers on the roof the shooter was on, but they went "it's too hot" and went inside the building. The USSS guys had to PID the shooter and make sure they weren't blasting a local cop.

[plain basalt]

Prehaps, i dont spend much time with cringe US politics things.

[sinful sigil]

Yeah me neither, there was just a lot of yap about it in another server I'm in.

[lone abyss]

Let's avoid political discussion thanks.

Marksmeme/Sniper in-game is a waste of a fire support slot, unless you have the rare occurance of the player being good with the kit. In reality Marksman & Sharpshooter/Snipers are invaluable, though I'm bias, since I've served both as a marksman & sharpshooter.

[north jay]

rangefinder would make it good, means the squad doesnt have to rely on SL for range markers

[lone abyss]

Would not really change much, since having a LAT or GL is more beneficial than a Marksman kit. They provide more worth for the Squad. In it's current iteration, Marksman is just a slightly worse Rifleman kit that takes a fire support slot. Rifleman has same ttk in most cases, lower recoil, more ammo, mid range optic and has an ammo bag. A range finder would not really make Marksman better. Would just add to the issue of the kit being noob bait, and give more reason to run 1km off from the Squad "sniping" and not achieving much.

Range finder could be useful for sniper role, but even then, the role is only as effective as the player using it.

[north jay]

it'd be something at least

[sinful sigil]

It would be kinda nice to have with LATs so I don't have to rely on the usual "fuck a round at it and adjust from there" method or just plain guesswork.

[umbral canopy]

Range finder wouldn't really increase the usefulness of the kit it would just cause them to run off alone more and be less likely to communicate

[dark pier]

LATs should get one, and marksmen should get one too.

LATs only have one rocket

And if there is just some humvee sitting far away, it’s a pain to actually hit it before it knows where you are

And marksmen don’t have a lot

They’re basically just a worse riflemen

4x-6x with the an bipod in exchange for 100 ammo is just

Not really worth it

[rough jackal]

Just make MM into another variant of rifleman, so they get an ammo bag and can be at least somewhat useful.
If you expect the brainiacs who pick marksman kit to be able to operate a range finder and give you fast enough and accurate readings, then you're delusional.

People who cannot put their pants on in the morning without tripping three to four times and hitting the ground nose first are the kind of people who play marksman.
I wouldn't trust them even to know how to put one foot in front of the other, let alone use a rangefinder in an effective manner...

[high umbra]

Both sniper missed ......but they was immersed