Why?

[vocal dirge]

This is becoming a Ukrainian cope central at this point

[round nebula]

Are you saying that the ptars are not used in the game?

[south tundra]

I don't get your past three messages towards me lol. The first ones barely even english.

[timid finch]

BTR3 whiteout TOW

[round nebula]

he has a place for ATGMs on the right, which means that they are designed there, just not loaded, I'm not asking for a photo, but an official modification of the BTR-3 without atgms

[neon prawn]

Interesting for what this vote created? Every shown factions READY and u just want ask who next? And if they READY give all of them to community)) Why u start chat holywar, just say what faction more ready and give it to people.

[round nebula]

I will not talk about tanks, the BTR-3 is the base of the BTR, the helicopters are the same, and the rifles that you named are not the main weapon of Ukraine, the main weapon of Ukraine.

?..

[atomic talon]

Because OWI is actually throwing their game down the shitter. For God sake mod Creators are doing a better job. Then actual developers.

[dim wren]

I don't know if fort machine guns are used in armed forces of Ukraine. Mostly, our armed forces use PKM or M249

[fallen zinc]

Cuz that’s the entire game, reason we wont see T90M for instance… but ofc some like example MGS and Sprut have broke that… but not a whole faction… id think they’d keep to the game… and not make 2023/2024 UA…

[toxic umbra]

Why you pinging us?

[neon prawn]

BC u join discussion. And i have questions. Whats wrong?

[timid finch]

UAR15?

[toxic umbra]

Go Read the rules #rules-and-roles
DO NOT tag Offworld Developers, QA or Moderators without a legitimate issues

Pinging the whole moderation team for a question, is not a legitimate issue.

[round nebula]

Where do these numbers come from? the official rifle of Ukraine SVD, and also, I meant about assault rifles

[fallen zinc]

Hmmm okay great lol… another AK faction…

[timid finch]

Vulcan? UAR15?

[neon prawn]

I think start holywar by this voting its legitimately issue, but if im wrong then sorry

[round nebula]

where does Wikipedia have these numbers from, and even if they are there, please send me a link in a personal account

[toxic umbra]

Offworld posted it, Moderators are here to Moderator, not dictate on what Offworld staff do.

[round nebula]

And my grandfather is the president of the world, do you believe me?

I want to repeat, I was talking about assault rifles

[fallen zinc]

Came into service in 2004… fitting right into the game

[atomic talon]

Heres a CRAZY idea OWI starts hiring the mod teams behind MEE, Global escalation and steel division adding all of that shit to the game

[neon prawn]

I understood, sorry

[round nebula]

these are private rifles, and they are not in mass production in Ukraine, officially they are in Ukraine

[shell cipher]

Oh, I see the problem. "Since 2004" on eng wiki and "since 2016" on russian wiki

same time:

[fallen zinc]

A newer version BMD-4M came into service in 2008… sod idk about that

[shell cipher]

But I`m on same page with changed language...

That's wiki trouble on one page with different langs

[toxic umbra]

If they were the same, it be the same image & name

[shell cipher]

Can I share short video here?

[toxic umbra]

if it's related you can try

[shell cipher]

Just try it by urself - google bmd-4 eng wiki and change to russian lang and u'll see

[silk cove]

60 pieces, and the BMD-4M version is presented in the game

[toxic umbra]

im right, i use a plugin system for that stuff.

[fallen zinc]

Bro wth links just deletes itself… ah true cant share links

[toxic umbra]

#rules-and-roles

Oh, your ban failed, let me fix that

[atomic talon]

Yall really be glazing Russian and Ukrainian stuff. How about we get something we have never had, PCM, Japan, Sweden, Mexican, Vietnamese, Indian, French, Korean the list continues

[vocal dirge]

This tbh

[toxic umbra]

You do know wiki is also editable via anyone

[vocal dirge]

It's showing the dates for BMD-4M, not BMD-4 in the RUssian wiki

БМД-4М — вариант с узловой унификацией с БМП-3, улучшенным двигателем и тепловизором

Тhe only difference between BMD-4 and 4M is engine from BMP-3. We have no thermals so that doesn't matter. 4M, for the most part, was a unification process between BMP-3 and BMD-4 since they share a lot of common parts

[shell cipher]

Isn't m-version is in the game?

[vocal dirge]

Yes

[shell cipher]

So correct is 2016?

[vocal dirge]

2015 is when first batch of 4Ms was given to troops

Which is within the rough general timeframe of Squad

It's not like 4M is some super duper modification to BMD-4

[toxic umbra]

If they wanted to really up the time period/vehicles, then id look at attack helis & AA Equipment.

[fallen zinc]

Well yeah stood a bit longer down:

”The BMD-4M, as well as the BTR-MDM, were officially brought into service in April 2016”

So 2016 for those

[atomic talon]

Brother they had attack Heilcopters and aa equipment back in The Vietnamese war. And that took place way before squad is placed at time wise. Shit they even had sam launchers

[blazing cairn]

wow... you vote a faction with the same weapons and vehicle that we already have... nice job folks... very good... We hate new stuff! Great....

[south tundra]

Yup thats what I been saying. More AKs and BTRs

[silk cove]

Canada and Australia have much new?

[tired folio]

Oh boy I sure would love another btr with slightly shidded camo

[blazing cairn]

Whats with "Belarus" for next faction? That would be so cool!

[tired folio]

No how about georgia and Kazakhstan

Would be sooo cool

[fallen zinc]

Well MGS entered service around 2000’s, Sprut i guess from either 2001 or 2018, i’s guess the latter

[atomic talon]

Basically all the same thing with a change in weapons, or better sensors and maybe better armor. And Probably a better engine

[vocal dirge]

Officially, but VDV was given first batch of those in March 2015

[tired folio]

Btr-4 is the only entirely new vehicle

[vocal dirge]

Sprut has been in service since around 2005, but the SDM1 version was adopted in 2020. Idk why they gave VDV SDM1 version

[atomic talon]

Pretty much

[tired folio]

Main infantry weapon of ukraine is literally ak-74

[median warren]

It's bmd-4M is squad

[atomic talon]

Again I will just post this Yall really be glazing Russian and Ukrainian stuff. How about we get something we have never had, PCM, Japan, Sweden, Mexican, Vietnamese, Indian, French, Korean the list continues

[vocal dirge]

It's a BTR with same Soviet 30mm that can also shoot ATGMs

[tired folio]

Pretty sure the armor is also much better

[vocal dirge]

"much better" can mean 20mm isntead of 10mm and it still doesn't matter

[tired folio]

Dawg neither of those are used for regular infantry

Standard issue for ukraine is ak-74

[median warren]

Why there no Apache from 1980th then?

[tired folio]

Balancing

No cas helis

[median warren]

same for t-90m

[fallen zinc]

Cuz attack helis arent in the gams lol

[quiet ice]

Its russian soliders

[median warren]

still no javelin, no thermals

[tired folio]

Here's not Russian soldiers

Still the same thing lol

[fallen zinc]

Well if they added that they’d have to add the Sepv3, since it’s from 2017 last time i checked if i remember right

[fallen zinc]

Cuz it isnt in the game yet… so can argue with that

[vocal dirge]

T-90A will be added to RGF fyi

[median warren]

It's all comes down to the balancing, not year of service, no matter 14, 18, 20th

[fallen zinc]

But yeah i guess we could see a post 2014 ukrainian army then… but ely not abrams and Leopards, stuff like that… since it’s from 2022-2024 so would be too ”modern” for the game

[tired folio]

I don't see an issue with T-90A it's pretty old

[atomic talon]

Oh shit guys i forgot! War Is all about balance, this is a realistic miltary shooter

[quiet ice]

I am not talking about these pictures. The first two pictures were not about Ukrainian soldiers

[median warren]

Militia are "balcans" from 90th, lets limit to this timeframe then

[tired folio]

I was setting an example

[tired folio]

Do you know why there are no cas helis vro

[atomic talon]

Mods have it and they work fine

[tired folio]

Not mods. Base game.

[atomic talon]

Last year in a update they added one

[median warren]

They are already in the game, add them to UA would matter small in "real-life" historic sence, but will be quite unique and interesting to play

[atomic talon]

In training grounds 🤣

[vocal dirge]

they work fine
lmao

[south tundra]

Lol I had a guy try to say,"there's already 4 factions with AKs. If it's so bad why use them?"
Some people don't understand the concept of variation. Or even the fact Blufor vs Redfor is a real thing

[atomic talon]

Again owi started to add cas helis then stopped, you can still find it in the training grounds

[vocal dirge]

Good, helis are a meme in this game

[tired folio]

If you add cas helis you might as well turn the game into war thunder

[atomic talon]

It's like this game is a realistic military shooter. 🤣 but oh no cas helis!

[blazing cairn]

If we can play Ukraine...uhm... why not Israel too? They have better tanks that look different as most tanks in the game...

[tired folio]

If you want a game that has shitty balancing go play arma 3

Balancing is important regardless of how realistic the game is

[atomic talon]

Brother you are so sad 🤣

[tired folio]

Lmao what?

[atomic talon]

Please go back to battlefield

[median warren]

I'm all hands for Israel though, saing it for long while ago

[south tundra]

Finally something we can agree on

[tired folio]

When owi adds UA I just hope they don't make it based around old shitty Soviet equipment

I would never touch that faction

[blazing cairn]

Yeah! They have massive Equipment that no other faction has ingame

[median warren]

But imaging tankie butthurt in US, maybe owi don't want that much controversy

[blazing cairn]

This vote here is much more controversy than my ideas

[tired folio]

Yep adding a genocidal apartheid state would stir a lot of controversy

[median warren]

then you've seen nothing yet 😁

[atomic talon]

And what does owi have a bad habit of doing, copy and pasting shit from their other factions so they don't have to do the work. So if we get UA it's just going to be a mix of the Russian assets they already have with maybe a few m4s sprinkled in and maybe a nlaw

[vocal dirge]

Noooo we are going to get a T-64 (with outdated auto-loader so it can only shoot soviet era APFSDS)

[atomic talon]

🤣😭🤣 noo more please

[hoary linden]

Does the Middle East escalation mod still have Ukraine and Russia?

Why don’t they play that shit?

[vocal dirge]

Shit mod

That being said, most Squad mods are hot dookie

[atomic talon]

Atleast the mods be adding new shit tho

[vocal dirge]

Ah yes, super elite suppressor kit mk. 25

And kekw paradrops

[hoary linden]

Honestly the PMC faction is probably going to be like that

[tired folio]

New Delta Force mode

I don't have high hopes for pmc faction lol

[vocal dirge]

Probably, and sadly will be cringe 😦

I've already seen Marksman suppressor model in SDK

Not sure how long that has been around

[tired folio]

I'm kinda hoping they would add a suv with m134 lmao

[hoary linden]

No idea but I get that they’ll have some good small arms but wtf are they going to do against armor

[atomic talon]

Nothing, they don't get hats or armor

It's probably going to be only used for the layers where we get light armors

[hoary linden]

I guess, I’ve heard suggestions of giving them FPV drones but that would be very one sided fun

[tired folio]

Yep

They aren't gonna be shit unless they are based on Wagner lol

[atomic talon]

Fpv drones are basically ieds strapped to the Insurgent drone. And it's not super op

[hoary linden]

It depends but yeah it’s a RPG warhead strapped to a little quad copter

There’s also the regular drones that can drop grenades but idk about those

[vague sedge]

HEAT warhed strapped to fast as hell drone

[atomic talon]

Again Basically the same thing the Insurgents get plus the Insurgents would ied drone be stronger, since they can mount like 4+ ied on a drone.

Compared to the one heat rpg warhead

[hoary linden]

Yeah but those are limited by time while for the PMC faction they could get a dedicated drone role and just replace them with ammo

[atomic talon]

That would just break the game. At that point people would definitely straight up leave

[crude grove]

at least 300 in UA

[tired folio]

300 what

[timid finch]

Where’s T80 in game ? BTR3 - BTR80 Reskin are you seriously?

[vague sedge]

300 BTR-3 are is UAF

And unknown amount is made for other countries

[hoary linden]

Yeah probably, the best way of mitigating it in my opinion would be it would have to be a station requiring a radio and each drone costs a lot of ammo (I kind of imagine it as a ATGM that’s more flexible but does less damage)

[timid finch]

2014

[tired folio]

That's the main timeframe for literally everything added to the game

[timid finch]

T72B3?)

[crude grove]

btr4s

[tired folio]

2010

[timid finch]

My bad, 2011

[tired folio]

The one singular excuse you have for it is the ak-12

[south tundra]

Yeeaahhh that won't be abused at all lol

[spare venture]

I wanna try this

and btr4

[south tundra]

If you want suppressors there's global escalation. I don't see them being added to vanilla

[hoary linden]

It would be broken if it could be done anywhere and was man portable but if it’s a fixed thing you have to build and it basically acts like a lighter but more mobile ATGM set up I don’t think it would be too crazy if they have no other anti-armor stuff

[fallen zinc]

U rly that much political focused… only thing Ukraine will have on their own is the Oplot, BTR3 & 4E (tho most 4E’s are prob gone by now and only a limited number was ever in service… a diff uniform… but that’s it… most - everything else will be Russian/Soviet made just reskinned… thats the truth, so stop acting like Ukraine is the best pick ATM, after France or Germany… Sure add Ukraine but im just sick of the same ”ak faction” coming into the game…

Same tbh, Sweden would be NICE!

[vague sedge]

Hope they'll add "stugna-p"

[next igloo]

There are many types of weapons from Ukrainian manufacturers, such as small arms, grenades, grenade launchers, etc. There is also Ukrainian-made equipment, and this is not only the BTR4 and the Oplot Tank. People, before you say that Ukraine is all Soviet weapons, read the information and don’t be stupid, please.

[vague sedge]

Especially thermobaric grenades, Ukraine is the only country in the world which has such a grenades

[next igloo]

Ukraine now produces a lot of FPV drones, of its own production, and I believe that drones are worth adding.

[next igloo]

yes, that's what I'm getting at

[fallen zinc]

Became a thing in 2022/2023 basc ied drone so would be unfair if Ukraine had it and no one else… cuz atm u rly cant do anything against ied drones

[south tundra]

I don't think anyone specifically said it's "all soviet weapons". People are just tired of AKs, BTRs, and T series tank. Doesn't matter who made them,people want something completely different. Germany, France or even Japan at this point

[next igloo]

and the multiple launch rocket system is also from a UKRAINIAN MANUFACTURER

[vague sedge]

Add EWS to all nations

[fallen zinc]

Also would just push Insurgents down… cuz that’s like a pluss for them…

[next igloo]

in Ukraine they do not produce AKs, armored personnel carriers, tanks of the Soviet design, I don’t know what to call it correctly

[tired folio]

Malyuk is only used by special forces and some himars crew

It's not getting added

[vague sedge]

Problem is not that Ukraine will be OP, Problem is that all other nations have outdated weapons compared to us

[next igloo]

Go to Wikipedia and see what Ukraine produces. These are new MLRS systems, infantry fighting vehicles, small arms, trucks, drones, etc.

[vague sedge]

AKs are being replaced in our army

[tired folio]

They aren't adding equipment based on 2024

You still use more aks than anything else

There are even new shadow bullpup kits for aks

They aren't going anywhere

[next igloo]

I actually propose to finally add at least self-propelled guns

[fallen zinc]

Yeah that’s the thing but yet they expect things from today… normal AK74 with wood is prob gonna be the main rifle… then have a bit better one for certain kits

[next igloo]

We now have priority on American weapons) and AKS now are mostly either captured or from the times of the USSR

[fallen zinc]

Or the AKM

[next igloo]

блядь, украинцы

[vague sedge]

+, artillery is too weak in the game, m-109 or 2s3 would fix the problem

[tired folio]

My guy you still widely use ak-74s even in 2024

[next igloo]

это пиздец... мне интересно, как им вбить в голову, что у нас АКМ блядь не в приоритете, и не будут ставить АКМ, ты ему говоришь ,что у нас много своего вооружения, он тебе начинает за АКМ втирать

[tired folio]

It didn't disappear into thin air

Also speak in English

[vague sedge]

You really want to replace all AKs for M4A1 in 2 years?

[next igloo]

So what? Is that why we don’t have our own production? what difference does it make what I use if we are talking about the game and we can add Ukrainian derivative weapons

[fallen zinc]

Bro that would be dumb… got commander and command assets for that

[tired folio]

My guy I'm talking about squad

You won't get shit from 2020 and forwards

Your locally made firearms are literally never used by regular infantry units

[next igloo]

Why can’t we add Ukrainian-made weapons to the Squad?

[vague sedge]

Are you a developer to say so? No

[tired folio]

Because they're only used by SOF

[next igloo]

used.

[pure adder]

And what?

[tired folio]

My guy there's not a single piece of equipment in game that went above 2018

Do you think ukraine will get special treatment lol

[fallen zinc]

Not at all

[tired folio]

And even then it's one singular thing, ak-12

There's NOTHING newer than that

In game

[next igloo]

You didn’t answer my question, why can’t we add Ukrainian weapons to the GAME?

[vague sedge]

SVDM, very rare weapon in reality is main marksman rifle in squad

[tired folio]

Ukrainian firearms are only used by SOF and squad hasn't added a single SOF unit until now

[teal nest]

We should choose France because it is already very well developed. Ukraine is quite similar to Russia; it would be the same type of weapons and therefore not much novelty.

[next igloo]

and what???

[vague sedge]

Grach, pistol that was not even seen in war

[tired folio]

That's a fat fucking lie lol

[pure adder]

We will see what developers decide to add. Don’t be annoying.

[tired folio]

I have seen both svdm and grach in use

[next igloo]

UKRAINE IS NOT LIKE RUSSIA

[vague sedge]

1 or 2 photos doesn't count

[next igloo]

I’m from Ukraine and I see what is used and by whom

[teal nest]

Their weapons are.

[south tundra]

I was just looking through Ukraines assault rifles and TEN of their 27 assault rifles are AK variants in some way.

[tired folio]

Do you want me to pull a whole folder on you

[vague sedge]

How hard it is for western to understand that Ukraine has modern equipment, our army is the only army in Europe that can fight Russia

[tired folio]

I have more than enough images

[pure adder]

Not only I think…

[vague sedge]

We had enormous military recourses even before war(compared to countries like Germany, France, Poland)

[tired folio]

All of their firearms were straight up failures except for malyuk

[vague sedge]

UAR-15

[tired folio]

And malyuk was dropped in favor of m4 by sof because it was ass

[next igloo]

and we do not use Russian weapons, we still have USSR weapons, but not Russian ones. Lots of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, airplanes, armored personnel carriers, etc. was done exactly on the territory of Ukraine

[fallen zinc]

Oml @next igloo are u dumb? Like actually… it wont be added, done… it’s from now… what did they have before 2018 then? Lol… rifles from now wont be added… simple as that, cuz the devs want the game to be from the 2010’s era… ukrainian made weapons before max 2018 sure i guess… but in the end it’s not up to us to decide What firearms Ukraine will have or not… it’d the Devs… so talk to them lol

[vague sedge]

Who said that devs won't add weapons from 2018

[tired folio]

I'm going by logic and saying it will be ak-74, if they add malyuk or something then good on you

[vague sedge]

You are literally nobody to say that

[teal nest]

Your 'army' needs the help of all the other countries in the world to fight Russia and did not have modern equipment before the war.

[next igloo]

fuck, you're stupid, fuck, you're telling me that we didn't make them until 2018, and at the end of your sentence about weapons you tell me, “well, you're making your weapons until 2018 at the most.” fuck, I live in Ukraine and I know you better

[fallen zinc]

I said max… but who knows i said it’s up to them… lol whatever… go continue in ur dreams… lol

[tired folio]

Idk what's with people thinking ukraine is special and should get equipment they use in 2024 💀

[south tundra]

I think that's something many people here understand. But squads timeline has been early to mid 2000s. You can't just expect a bunch of brand new weapons just because patriotism

[next igloo]

shut your mouth, okay?

[tired folio]

What's with toxicity

Chill your tits

[vague sedge]

Thanks for your enormous help of 5000 artillery shells a month

[fallen zinc]

Well then list me ukrainian made weapons from 2010’s era then cuz 2020’s era wont be added… to modern for the current game

[next igloo]

If it weren’t for Ukraine, you would already be sitting in your basement in Europe. I said everything, goodbye

[tired folio]

Why are you so mad loooool

[fallen zinc]

nafo is back in town…

But anyway… hf xddd

[tired folio]

This is why I hate nationalists they lack logical thinking

[raw moth]

Ukrainian Army has unique vehicles as BTR-4 or MRAPs, . And the MBT T64 "Bulat" can be quite strong due to ERA "Nizh" or "Duplet" which can protect even against APFSDS. Of course, the firearms are not unique, but some unique kits are very likely to be implemented including Javelin Operator, FPV drone operator, heavy anti vehicle sniper with 14.5mm rifle, not only Canada should have heavy snipers, lol. As FOB weapons: MT-12 Rapira, which is 100mm AT artillery, it was activelly used since 2014. HIMARS attack as CMD perk.

[south tundra]

Fr

[teal nest]

I am French and I support your cause, but we must not forget all the aid you had before saying that you are the only ones able to resist Russia.

[vague sedge]

Maluk, T-64BULAT, T-84 Oplot, RGT 27c, and infinite amount of modernizations

[tired folio]

T-84 was rare asf during that time period

T-64 sure

[vague sedge]

Nice, but nobody in Europe understands that if not us, yall be occupied

There is no nation in Europe that can hold russian army except us

[tired folio]

I feel like Poland would do a much better job than ukraine lmao

That's just me though

[vague sedge]

Poland main IFV is bmp-1

[teal nest]

I won't get into an argument, I almost understand what you mean, but you don't understand that if you didn't have all the military and economic aid, you would have more countries against you at the present time.

[vague sedge]

Remember polands leaked plan for defence against Russia?

[fallen zinc]

Ofc i know the vehicles, apc, ifv and tanks but we was talking about rifles…

[tired folio]

Doesn't change the fact that they have a much better and modernized army than ukraine tho

[tired folio]

^^^^^

[vague sedge]

They planned to give russians half of their territories and hope that NATO will save them

[vague sedge]

No fpv drones, no EWS units

[quaint belfry]

hah that was funny

[next igloo]

BM "Oplot", BTR-4 "Bucephalus", RK-360MC "Neptune" , BMP-1U "Shkval", BTR-3DA, BTR-7 "Defender", Bastion-02 and much more, I'm too lazy to list

[tired folio]

1. Fpv drones are pretty cheap and they would do a much better job at producing them than ukraine
2. Ews would probably be given as aid

[quaint belfry]

russians in Poland they swallowed a big dick

[next igloo]

because there is no need to say provocative things

[quaint belfry]

if they attacked from Belarus

[vague sedge]

Problem is that you need few month to train a fpv pilot

Poland won't have few nonth

[tired folio]

There's nothing provocative about saying you guys are delusional if you think 2024 equipment will be added for ukraine with newest modernizations possible

[next igloo]

no, you told me “you think there will be something special for Ukrainians or she will get some attention” this is really provoking, you have now humiliated my country

[tired folio]

Please have reading comprehension

[fallen zinc]

Malyuk and M4-WAC-47 came into service with SPECIAL FORCES of Ukraine in 2017… not a standard rifle so wont be added unless we get a special forces kit/unit…

AKM, AKMS, AK-74 (AKS-74 & AKS-74U) are the most likliest rifles to be in Ukraine if it’ll be added into Ukraine… unless what i said longer up about a special forces unit. But prob wont be added cuz not a single special forces unit is in the game…

[vague sedge]

Just admit that y'all are angry because your countries aren't added to squad

[tired folio]

US is in squad 🤷‍♂️

[vague sedge]

It was designed in 2005 lil bro

[tired folio]

Designed and coming into service is two different things

[vague sedge]

SVDM and Grach

[fallen zinc]

But came into service in 2017 LIL BRO

[vague sedge]

Still aren't widely used

[tired folio]

I blame lack of research + svdm is at least used by regular troops

Not only special forces

[fallen zinc]

Anyway that’s what’s most likely to happen… and that’s the trurh

Bye bye

[tired folio]

Grach was adopted in 2003

[vague sedge]

Maluks and UAR-15 are used in Azov and 3rd assault brigade, of course in small numbers but they are used there

Our opinions won't really change anything, last word is after developers

[next igloo]

I will close the whole dispute now. If the developers had assumed that there was nothing to add to the Ukrainian faction, then they would not have brought Ukrainians as a faction into the squad and would not have added this country to the questionnaire.

[tired folio]

Ukraine has interesting vehicles

[raw moth]

bmd4m? lav 6? ocelot? matv? any other modern vehicle?

[next igloo]

I will close the whole dispute now. If the developers had assumed that there was nothing to add to the Ukrainian faction, then they would not have brought Ukrainians as a faction into the squad and would not have added this country to the questionnaire.

[tired folio]

That's about it

And an interesting atgm

[vague sedge]

Agreed

[tired folio]

Still not used widely and still not the main issued rifle

Ukraine will probably suck in terms of standard issue gear for the faction but they have interesting vehicles

Making up for it

[vague sedge]

I hope devs won't just copypaste TOW into Ukrainian faction

[little sleet]

In my opinion, if you Ukraine, small country that you are, manage to resist Russia thanks to Nato equipment, Europe (and therefore Nato, not extension) will have no trouble holding the line.
Stop thinking you're supermen, without donations from various countries you couldn't do anything.

[tired folio]

Stugna or whatever would be cool

[little sleet]

Factually, Ukraine has and will have nothing new. Either Russian/Soviet equipment, or NATO equipment.

[vague sedge]

Would like to see nato fight against 2021 russia

[fallen zinc]

Just watch what happened when arty ammo stopped flowing in… nato support is the main reason ukraine has held russia like this for sooo long… but ofc it’s the soldiers of ukraine who have been stead strong

[vague sedge]

I wish that nato soldiers would die instead of ours

[sly meadow]

We do too

join nato so u can die for nato

[vague sedge]

We held 7 month from September to April without any help from nato

[teal nest]

I agree with you, we see many Eastern countries, but very few Western countries, or even fewer in South America.

[little sleet]

So in this survey, we have 3 factions with new features at all levels (inf, vhc). And Ukraine (as much as I'd love to play Ukraine, that's not the point) is clearly not at the same level of “featurs” as France Germany or Japan. The latter 3 would bring something new to the table, as with the Turks more recently, for example. For me, the simplest thing to do would be to add one of the 3 major factions + Ukraine, which doesn't require a huge amount of development (mostly existing assets + lots of mods).

[vague sedge]

Problem is that nato is scared of war

[sly meadow]

u want war?

[vague sedge]

It will slowly put NATO in grave

[south tundra]

I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at? Every vic you mentioned is early to mid 2000s besides the BMD4M

[little sleet]

in nato you've got the usa, and the usa alone is blowing russia away in my opinion. If you add in the European countries, it can't do anything without the help of other countries (China, etc.).

[sly meadow]

germany getting added grow up

[vague sedge]

If your alliance is made for war, and you are scared of "escalating" war by giving Ukraine missiles, your alliance is useless

[marsh stag]

ukraine getting added grow up

[vague sedge]

Nope

[fallen zinc]

Yeah but for example arty ammo was VERY low… so that just proves that if nato support stops then in the long run (max 2 years, ukraine would be done…), same with himars, now strikes have started again

[sly meadow]

dat aint my problem buddy

my country has given u all the tools

if nato wanted to fight they would've

[marsh stag]

bro your country is turkey

[vague sedge]

We held on our own production of arty shells and fpv drones

[sly meadow]

my country is the US

[marsh stag]

is already in the game

chill

[sly meadow]

1 gerbilliuo dollar

[marsh stag]

Turkey

you mean

[sly meadow]

no

USA

🦅

see dat

its an eagle

???

[marsh stag]

🤣

[sly meadow]

dis the most advanced bot i've seen

[vague sedge]

Having thousands Bradleys in reserve you gave us only 100

[little sleet]

Yes! a Brazilian army, for example. After all, I think that OWI chooses factions that are highly represented in current conflicts (USA, CAF etc.) so France and Germany could be a good choice since they are important in terms of world armies.

[marsh stag]

chill my turkish friendo

[sly meadow]

ok we'll give u mars too

do u want t he planet mars

[marsh stag]

chill and wait for ukraine in squad

[vague sedge]

Your government gives them, not you

[raw moth]

Ukraine stopped the invasion in 2022 without help, and when Ukrainian Army showed that russian army is not even scary as it was described in media for decades, NATO started to discuss the help. First NATO tanks were delivered in 2023, jets are not delivered yet. I would like to see how some NATO armies fight russian meat invasion when 40k soldiers is a fair price for 20k populated town,

[sly meadow]

I live in a country where its governed by that government

so yes

i gave u dat shit

[vague sedge]

Nope

[sly meadow]

u can keep thinking dat when its my taxdollars

[vague sedge]

If you pay taxes, you gave us about few dollars

[sly meadow]

im a billionare btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245843926695411732/1246143821377699940/Screenshot_261.png?ex=665b515f&is=6659ffdf&hm=e612db065a08be43f6aa2a85cf5c037c7987e9e73dc03fdebce7caf09c8e3d91&

now what

[tired folio]

Nato has practically perfected their air force and flying over hostile airspace

Russia wouldn't be able to move an inch

[shrewd locust]

Ukraine win on X

[dusky talon]

L'Ukraine est comme la Russie et elle aura toute les armes de l'UE donc aucun intérêt hormis les mettre en lumière avec ce qu'il ce passe actuellement. La France bon sang ! Des Baguettes, du Leclerc, du Famas et la carte vitale 🥖

[raw moth]

how would it stop 100k former prisoners attacking one city which have nothing to lose and anti-retreat MG squads behind? lol

[timid finch]

In English

[dusky talon]

Google Traduction *

[tired folio]

You're assuming they would only be using planes

[timid finch]

Okay can you say what new features has Germany?

I actually don’t understand why u all say that Germany has more new features

[tired folio]

They have more interesting vehicles

[wintry nymph]

That's it lol

Even then, the mbt is a reskin lol

[timid finch]

And what?

[tired folio]

The only reskin is the mbt

Everything else would be new

Same for their firearms

[timid finch]

Puma? Okay that’s actually something new

G36? Maybe….

MBT for sure no

What APC has Germany?

[tired folio]

They have marder

Fennek

Dingo

G wagon as well lol

[timid finch]

Canada?

[tired folio]

Mowag eagle

Tpz fuchs

[wintry nymph]

Nh90 helicopter. M416. Mp5/7 when pmc gets it. Mg3

[timid finch]

Okay Germany has like MBT-Leopard(like Canada) IVF-Puma(actually interesting vehicle) APC-Boxer(Reskin) Mrap- Dingo 2

[wintry nymph]

Germany would be cool, but I'd love France, South korea, Japan, even north korea before I'd want Germany

Ukraine will add literally nothing unique to squad

[tired folio]

Mp5 and mp7 is only in use by sof same with hk416

M416 isn't a real gun

The main firearm would be a g36

[wintry nymph]

Yes it is 💀

[tired folio]

M416 isn't a real name lmfao

It's called hk416

It's a name video games use to avoid copyright

[timid finch]

Ukraine has MBT- T84(Something new) or T64, IVF-BTR 4(again new vehicle) APC-BTR3( reskin ) Mrap- Kozak 2

[tired folio]

T84 was rare in that period T-64 is more likely

[wintry nymph]

Their most common tank is the t72... second most was t64.

[timid finch]

Nope

Ukraine has more T64 then T72

[wintry nymph]

Now they have more t64s than 72s.

[timid finch]

I saw one damage T84

[tired folio]

T84 is used just very rarely

[half geyser]

Yes

[wintry nymph]

Oh before the war they had 300 t64s and over 600 t72s... so not sure where you got that

[half geyser]

T84 oplot is never using in war

[wintry nymph]

Because they have more Abrams than the oplot lol

[half geyser]

Yeah, it's like we have a 2-3 of them

[timid finch]

I agree, I made a little mistake

[south tundra]

They have over five or six new vehicles already finished fir the mod, plus the PUMA in development..one of the most advanced IFVs in the world. New assault rifles, DMRs, HAT kit, and much more. All of this is new and specific to that faction.

[half geyser]

Modernized soviet tanks 🤓☝🏻

[tired folio]

They have more heli options btw

[wintry nymph]

Germany currently has like 4 active duty helicopters

[south tundra]

These are all things that are already being worked on or completed, compared to a bunch of brand new assets OWI would have to make

[tired folio]

As for apc they can just stick with this instead of boxer

[tired folio]

I mean they have h145

I guess that's something too

[plain tapir]

That thing Fuchs

[opal fulcrum]

Tf u mean North korea?

[tired folio]

Lmaooo

[wintry nymph]

Ya their only 2 active transport helicopters are the UH1D and NH90, both in the game already lol

[wintry nymph]

That's a trainer

[half geyser]

North Korea literally using soviet technique

[wintry nymph]

Fun fact, the ztz99 is a t80 they modified IRL.

[plain tapir]

Didn't they only make like 10 of them or less? But yeah Ukraine would get the T-64BM for a unique I would assume

[tired folio]

This would be a pretty interesting heli

Holy I agree

Optimization is terrible on squad

[half geyser]

Yes, we made only 10 of them

[wintry nymph]

All 6 people it can fit including the pilots

[timid finch]

Более 25 оплотов на фронте

[plain tapir]

Shame, it was a really cool tank. I think the war is going to prevent a lot of those kind of projects since the Ukrainians are just going to license produce leopards or something

[half geyser]

Чел, їх в цілому виготовлено лише 10шт, а на фронті їх навіть не було

[tired folio]

It's still a new heli

[wintry nymph]

You think theyll import the trainer heli that fits 6 people, or just reskin one of the 2 options they have that can fit a whole squad? Lol

[south tundra]

I think the PM of the Bundeswher mod said they're adding the Boxer since it's almost finished, or something along those lines

[tired folio]

Dawg they've actively used them where did you even get the trainer info from

[wintry nymph]

Try google. Here's straight from the manufacturer

https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2023-12-airbus-helicopters-and-german-armed-forces-sign-largest-h145m#:~:text=The basic version of the,used for operation and combat.

[tired folio]

They can add this as well tbf

[tired folio]

It doesn't say it's for training in that

[sterile steppe]

Where is Belarus faction?

[wintry nymph]

It literally does lmao

[tired folio]

Where

[analog valley]

I wonder what helicopters should Ukraine use if they are added to the game?

[wintry nymph]

"This allows the Bundeswehr to train its pilots on the same type of helicopter that is used for operation and combat. Costly type transfers are eliminated and the highest level of professionalisation will be achieved."

[tired folio]

Aaaand it doesn't even mention it's exclusively used for training

That sentence is more so saying that they'll be using the same airframe training as well

Rather than getting it only for training

[wintry nymph]

Oh, and they're going to be attack helicopters in the future. Not transports... so try again

[half geyser]

Did they have anything?

[tired folio]

I wonder what those guys are doing 🤔

Aren't they supposed to be light attack helicopters 🤔

[wintry nymph]

Training 💀 god damn

[tired folio]

My guy there's literally an image of it during a deployment

[wintry nymph]

The US army uses the UH1 too, show me that in the game.

[night aspen]

what

wrong react

[tired folio]

What does the UH1 have to do with what I said

[wintry nymph]

I literally provided the link to the MANUFACTURER

[night aspen]

Bell?

[tired folio]

And the manufacturer claims it's a multi role aircraft

Not a trainer

Try again

[shell cipher]

Shovels as primary

[wintry nymph]

Literally provided the quote where they said they use it to train.

But ok

[wintry nymph]

H145 is made by airbus.

[night aspen]

uh-1

you know

something tells me the five helicopter going to the special forces arent trainers

[timid finch]

51 оплот было изготовлено к 2022

[tired folio]

They can be used for both training AND deployments

It's literally the same case as certain aircraft being used as both trainers and as light attack aircraft

[timid finch]

Из них 49 в тайланде

[wintry nymph]

We also have 0 special forces in base squad... or the UH6 would be in game.

[timid finch]

1 в сша другой в Украине

[night aspen]

im talking about the helicopter

[half geyser]

В вікі пише 10 за весь час

[night aspen]

the H145M

[timid finch]

С начала 2022 изготовили около 20+-

[night aspen]

Luftwaffe special forces are getting 5 of the 62 from the order

[wintry nymph]

Then where's the MH60 and MH6 in game for the US special forces faction

[half geyser]

Звідки інфа? Які джерела?

[tired folio]

We are beyond that point lmao you were claiming it was a trainer

Turned out not

[timid finch]

В лс скину потом

[night aspen]

yeah this is all i was caring about @wintry nymph

can it be? sure, but the way you made it sound is like thats all it was good for

so anywho, i think the ukraine faction is going to be pretty cool

[tired folio]

I hope so

[wintry nymph]

It literally is a trainer. I have provided actual evidence after actual evidence, you googled pictures.

[night aspen]

they've got a nice option of domestic small arms and armour

[wintry nymph]

But go on.

[night aspen]

wow man your actually like

lame in the head

[wintry nymph]

Give me a document saying they're not currently used as a trainer. Go ahead. I'll wait.

[tired folio]

"Evidence after evidence" You posted one sentence that you didn't even understand yourself correctly and ignored rest of the article saying it's a multi role aircraft multiple times

You do you my guy

You seem pretty stubborn

[wintry nymph]

You're the one claiming against the manufacturer.

[night aspen]

h.ttps://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2023-12-airbus-helicopters-and-german-armed-forces-sign-largest-h145m

[sullen aurora]

france unieque tank ( if leclerc ) mrap btr
german unique mrap btr
ukraine uniqiue mrap btr
japan everything uniquie

[night aspen]

remove the period

[wintry nymph]

They announced late LAST YEAR they would be used in combat EVENTUALLY.

[night aspen]

i literally searched "germany procures H145"

i think your raising your blood pressure

[wintry nymph]

I did too. You obviously didn't read the articles where it says they're used to train for the eventual

[tired folio]

The manufacturer

From the same article you sent

[night aspen]

see the part that says

Search an Rescue

and Special Operations Forces

[narrow canyon]

I hope they will add this Ukrainian gun

[tired folio]

Please consider reading your own sources next time

[night aspen]

Malyuk is hot

[tired folio]

You should also consider having some reading comprehension

[tired folio]

Malyuk is hot but unlikely

[narrow canyon]

It’s very beautiful gun

[tired folio]

Not a standard issue gun

[night aspen]

your not wrong that japans broad, but Ukraine could get stuff like the T-84s

[robust coyote]

i hope they add t64 bulat and btr4

[night aspen]

^

[narrow canyon]

It is standart for ua sof, or what you mean?

[sullen aurora]

but t84 its still same as t60/t72

[tired folio]

Sof isn't in game

[narrow canyon]

Understood

[crimson lintel]

Really sexy but its equivalent to a Ray Gun from Call of Duty zombies theres just so few

[night aspen]

i mean no

[timid finch]

Ukraine unique MBT,IVF,APC,weapon and mrap

[timid finch]

Nope

That’s T80 but better

[night aspen]

the T-72 and T-62 are very different from the T-64/80/84

[robust coyote]

we have only a few t84s bro, let’s make a real mod, not a fake one, why should they add vehicles that AFU doesn’t use

[wintry nymph]

Would suggest the same to you. It mentions the 20 they use operationally. Casually cropping out the section where they order 100 for training for the EVENTUAL use in combat. Have a good day.

[night aspen]

i agree they have like 6 because they sold 4 to the US lol, but i'm holding out because of the FV520

[tired folio]

It doesn't even say they ordered them for only training 💀💀💀💀

My guy it literally says it allows them to train with the same aircraft they would be using in practice

[sullen aurora]

парні т64=т72=т80=т84=т90 це все модифікація
Козак і бтр4 унікальні да
( я один хуй проголосовав за Україну)

[night aspen]

under the hood those things are about as simular as crack and weed

[full shore]

Explain to me why as val was added for VDV, because this rifle was created for special forces

[timid finch]

Линейка Т64 отличается от Т72

[tired folio]

45th is a part of vdv

VDV has as val

[narrow canyon]

And this two things

[night aspen]

i do think Japan would make I cool faction but i've just been interested in a Ukraine military faction for like 7 years now

[night aspen]

Snipex stuff is also pretty newly fielded

[tired folio]

Vro 45th is a part of vdv

[night aspen]

there is uh. the thing that kind of looks like the S-98

[wintry nymph]

Just play Russia.

[night aspen]

what?

[narrow canyon]

Yeah

[tired folio]

This is VDV

They in fact have as val

[night aspen]

they're not the same lol

[timid finch]

That’s 2024

[night aspen]

I was hoping they'd give the VDV a T-80 tbf

[wintry nymph]

Before 2021... what was different?

[sullen aurora]

катком і автоматом

[wintry nymph]

They had 10 oplots. That was the only difference

[timid finch]

Электроника

И двигатель

[timid finch]

And where’s Val?

[night aspen]

your just full of shit opinions arent you lol

[timid finch]

That’s VSS Vintorez🤦

[tired folio]

If they have a VSS they definitely have an as val

Both are the same guns in practice either way lol

[timid finch]

Where’s Val?

[tired folio]

Only difference is the magazine and stock

[tired folio]

Let me look for it

[timid finch]

Okay

[wintry nymph]

Give me fucking equipment that makes ukraine unique over anything else in the game right now.

[brave panther]

Machine Malyuk

[timid finch]

Malyk(Vulkan) BTR4,BTR3, T84,Kozak2

[narrow canyon]

Snipex alligator, Volodar Obriju

[timid finch]

Vepr

Z10,Z15

[night aspen]

thats the rifle i was trying to remember

[wintry nymph]

They had as many t84s as Russia has t14s

[night aspen]

T-64

[timid finch]

T84 was created in 2000

[night aspen]

T-80 BV

[tired folio]

2017 VDV

[timid finch]

Where’s 2014?

[narrow canyon]

Bm 24 Oplot

[night aspen]

i think that photo on the left was from like 2021

[brave panther]

влукан м бдет имба

[night aspen]

why does 2014 matter?

[tired folio]

Lol what does the date have to do with it, didn't you say the date doesn't matter yourself?

It's still in use

[brave panther]

слава украине

[night aspen]

The chinese tank in game wasnt fielded till like 2019 lol

[timid finch]

When I gave an example of different weapons, he said that the game takes samples of armies of 2014

[sly meadow]

the 99a?

[tired folio]

OWI barely does any research

[timid finch]

Уже говорил о нем

[sly meadow]

cause the 99a is 2007

[tired folio]

But they never go beyond 2020

[timid finch]

Fort

[tired folio]

Also what does this have to do with what I said

I said malyuk is only in use by sof

[brave panther]

с модами вулкан м будет с глушителям и будет фркция ссо украины

[tired folio]

You said as val is also only used by sof but you see it with vdv

I sent an image of vdv using it

And you suddenly turned the whole argument around made it about the date

[night aspen]

i mean i was wrong but it was actually 2011

Sprut version they have in game is from 2017

[sly meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/rt60-shaq-kobe-lying-gif-27510136

[narrow canyon]

Not only, many simple soldiers use it too

[timid finch]

UAR15

[tired folio]

Only a few select people in azov

It's still VERY rare

[night aspen]

that probably too new

[tired folio]

In comparison to everything else

[night aspen]

what they should do is mix and match all the unique guns

[timid finch]

This gun just too expensive and rare for regular soldiers in the front line

[night aspen]

like what they did with IMF

[narrow canyon]

ua soldiers usually buy their own weapons, and often it's either a vulkan or a uar 15

[narrow canyon]

No

[tired folio]

Exactly why I say an ak-74 is a better choice

[night aspen]

conversion kits

[timid finch]

Because of this soldiers use UAR15 and another NATO weapons

[tired folio]

Only for sof as well

[timid finch]

But it’s just because of war

[pure adder]

Not only.

[tired folio]

Shadow conversion kit has only been seen with sof members

[timid finch]

Now we must take just a papers to make Ukrainian Army

[tired folio]

Never once within normal frontline units

[timid finch]

And in this paper we see that Ukrainian army use Malyuk

[tired folio]

Can you guys show me a single picture of malyuk in use by a non-sof member

[narrow canyon]

One sec

[tired folio]

👍

[timid finch]

Ukrainian DSV

[night aspen]

those are Tavors

[tired folio]

Those are tavors

[narrow canyon]

Guy from third assault brigade

[night aspen]

which they could also do

[sly meadow]

Using israeli tech now huh

[night aspen]

well no*

its a local version

but yes lol

[tired folio]

That image is a bit too new and I think it's already a well known fact they won't take 2022-2024 equipment into consideration

[night aspen]

theyve been partnering with Israeli weapons companies for awhile now tbh

[tired folio]

It's still a licensed tavor

[timid finch]

2018

[tired folio]

Which unit

[narrow canyon]

We now talking about who have this gun, or when this photo was made?

🫠

[tired folio]

When was this photo taken

[timid finch]

2019

[tired folio]

Which unit

[timid finch]

Marines

[tired folio]

You're ignoring the question

[night aspen]

again though i think they should just hodge podge them all together

those are marines

[tired folio]

If they add Marines of ukraine sure ig

[timid finch]

The first foto unknown

[tired folio]

Not sure why they would add Marines though

[timid finch]

Most likely stormtroopers

Idk that’s 2018

[night aspen]

ill have an answer for that in a moment

[timid finch]

In this time army was reformed

So everybody get new names every month

[night aspen]

im pertty sure

that its SOF

[tired folio]

Same lol

[night aspen]

bu they're berets are Grey?

not Tan

[shell cipher]

That's will be great joke if they'll add 3rd assault brigade

[narrow canyon]

@tired folio idk, maybe it’s little cringe to use chat gpt, but it’s what we have here

[timid finch]

It’s DSV

[tired folio]

Chatgpt literally rarely gives correct answers

Find a reliable source and image

[tired folio]

Those are tavors

[night aspen]

those are Airborne

[narrow canyon]

It’s fort

[night aspen]

they changed to red in... i think 2017

[tired folio]

Fort is literally licensed tavors

[timid finch]

Why Malyuk and Tracie’s so similar

[night aspen]

fort-221 is a licensed Tavor in 5.45

oh you know what

[narrow canyon]

Okay

[tired folio]

It's not a malyuk in the image

Its a fort

Look closely

[timid finch]

That’s old Malyuk

[narrow canyon]

I think no

[timid finch]

Concept

[narrow canyon]

Nuh

[sly meadow]

did u really use chat gpt bruh

[tired folio]

Dawg this is a fort

[sly meadow]

its even crazier that all of u r new to the server

not even 12 hours old

[night aspen]

the tan berets, theyre just regular army

[tired folio]

Do you genuinely not see

Those 4 holes

[sly meadow]

what awesomeness

[night aspen]

i mean i would look at the stock

[sly meadow]

we need to add israel

[tired folio]

Those holes are a better giveaway

Malyuk doesn't have them

[night aspen]

you can still see where they bullpooped the AKs lol

this is an actual early version

that was literally a conversion kit

[narrow canyon]

Still, I think they will add a modern Ukrainian army, the army of the old times does not want to see anyone, and there is nothing interesting, but a new one.....

[tired folio]

They never added a modern army to the game

Ukranians having a modern military ruins balance

[narrow canyon]

Who knows

[night aspen]

i think they should start going back and adding more, new things

like JLTVs

[timid finch]

What is it?

[narrow canyon]

Maybe they will give some new, some old things

[night aspen]

countable pixels lol

[tired folio]

Fort

[night aspen]

i think it would be neat if they mixed Leo 1A5s along side T-64 Bulat

[timid finch]

I think that’s Malyuk

[tired folio]

It's not

[night aspen]

would be cool, and something no other faction would field

[timid finch]

Okay

[timid finch]

Vepr

😁

[night aspen]

theory of evolution lol

but yeah

they could give the rifle man a bunch of variants of weapons if they wanted

[narrow canyon]

By the way drones kamikaze can be unique mechanic for Ukraine

[tired folio]

You guys want ukraine to be op

[night aspen]

its not like some didnt reach the Regular army, they just arent fielded as widly as AK-74N

[south tundra]

Damn no kidding. Front half looks like an AKM, with the same muzzle brake and everything

[tired folio]

It's a 74

5.45

[night aspen]

you know what he meant

theory of evolution

[sly meadow]

The earth is flat.

[night aspen]

but i am not

[tired folio]

I disagree with ukraine getting modern and overpowered equipment but that's just me though 🤷‍♂️

Owi should do what they always have done

[night aspen]

whats the OP stuff that was suggested

[tired folio]

Drones

[night aspen]

yeah i dont really agree with that

[timid finch]

What fraction did u choose?

[tired folio]

Germany

[night aspen]

it would throw off balance if you gave a strong unit drones

I didn't pick germany becuase im hoping the German Mod covers that

same with france

and i Hope OWI scoops them both up and like they did Canada and Australia

[tired folio]

I originally wanted jsdf but it got the lowest amount of votes lol

[night aspen]

lol

[south tundra]

Yeah people were saying drones with HEAT munitions and no cooldown lol.

[night aspen]

yeah that would be nuts if it was a ammo crate thing

[timid finch]

I think the Japan is the most interesting fraction here

[tired folio]

I agree

[gilded turret]

ig if ukraine will be added to squad, it will have half of soviet ammunition

[night aspen]

it definitely is

[gilded turret]

and will be very poor, no sof

[tired folio]

No faction has sof

In game

[gilded turret]

yes

[little sleet]

Owi no longer buy mods

[night aspen]

the VDV arent SOF lol

[night aspen]

:(

[tired folio]

That too

[little sleet]

self made or donation

[gilded turret]

Ukrainian DSHV (VDV) ig

[night aspen]

well they are* but theyre not SF

[little sleet]

Australian are the lastest buy mod

[night aspen]

i shall hold out hope

[little sleet]

But I don't think the owner of the France mod wants to give it away for free, given all the work that has gone into it.

Afterwards, perhaps their policy has changed since the Tencent takeover.

[night aspen]

im glad that guy who was arguing about the H145 dipped hahaha

[tired folio]

That guy was stubborn asf

[night aspen]

yeah lol

[tired folio]

He must have an allergy of admitting to his mistakes

[night aspen]

and then he started strawmaning lol

has anyone tried WT on controller?

im traveling and its way way different from my normal setup so im trying it out

[sly meadow]

wdym

ur a LOTTA shapes

[south tundra]

Can anyone else confirm this?

[normal sinew]

isnt devs will buy that mod? (ofc if france will win)

[little sleet]

If I'm not mistaken, they said it after the Australians had release, or something.

[normal sinew]

oh.

[south tundra]

I thought in their last Q&A they said they'd continue working with mod teams.

Nvm I found it.
Question:

Would you consider hiring a workshop mod developer contract to reach your achievements?

Answer:

We are currently in contact with a few modding teams and individual modders to help us with various areas of development. This can include anything from creating new content, to helping us set up or improve existing content. Historically we have always been open to working with modding teams, and we do not see that changing!

[tired folio]

I hope some tlf modders will get to work 💀

[south tundra]

Fr. The Turks are really bad they need to look at the faction as a whole. No HAT, shitty vics, and bunch of gimmick kits that will get picked everytime over the much needed LAT.

[tired folio]

Turkish grenade launcher makes a pretty damn good mortar though I'll admit that lol

[south tundra]

The MGL is REALLY good but that along with the MG3 will be picked everytime just for what it is. AT? Fuck em lol

[tired folio]

LAT sucks

Unfortunately

TLF is just unplayable

1. gear models, color and contrast is actually terrible

2. Wtf is jandarma doing in tlf they're law enforcement

3. Shitty vehicles that don't even make sense

4. No hat kit

[south tundra]

Yeah ill be honest even their camo screws them. It's so easy to distinguish from any other faction. The shitty vics + no HAT is a recipe for disaster I've seen play out too many times

[tired folio]

OWI is the best at ignoring everything the community tells them

Talking to a brick wall would be more effective

Not sure why they even have the feedback channel open

[night aspen]

i just thought that the guns they used had way to much recoil

especially the smg

[tired folio]

I get the mpt-76 having some kick to it because it uses a larger caliber

The smg however makes 0 sense

[night aspen]

and i thought that was even weirder becuase they're an infantry force

i mean, its not just it kicks. it kicks like it doesnt have stock

or like my character is shouldering the rifle is what i mean

but i could say that about every gun ig

[tired folio]

Devs when you tell me they gave every gun an unreasonable amount of recoil

I suppose our trained military characters just have spaghetti arms

[night aspen]

are guys arent weekend warriors either theyre war fighters

ICO was cool because of the suppression and stamina stuff but they really messed stuff up for recoil, especially brits and the scopes

[weary hill]

how I see the Ukrainian faction. Without ultra-modern weapons

[pure adder]

But I would like to see this tank.)

It’s better than T-64 Bulat.

Or t-72.

[queen turtle]

ukraine has a wide mix of weaponary from different parts of the world

[pure adder]

Now.

But we have also our own weapons, but only not too much.

[shell cipher]

Being nasty bcs of not winning is bad

[pure adder]

It’s not russian.

T-84 Oplot

It’s not your deal…

[wide flare]

WE NEED BTR4 BUCEPHAL

Also some t64bm

[crystal smelt]

ukraine must have javelins

[wide flare]

Nah man around 1k in Zsu

[crystal smelt]

i hope not

javelins would be sick

[normal sinew]

hell na

sorry for that mate

now i cant disagree cuz i have russian nickname

[pure tendon]

owi, roll back the game to upgrade 5.1 I think everyone will like 👍

ico shit

fuck ico

sure, but i want to see Japan

++

developers still don’t give a fuck about players haha

the vote was made so that the new community thought that the game was developing and they would listen

kek

[normal sinew]

they literally posted a vote for another faction

[normal sinew]

i mean

if community chose japan or france you wouldn't say that

i bet

i am not talking abvout ukraine rn

[pure tendon]

ну у меня в скваде 2к часов, а у тебя 125. я играю с конца 20 начала 21.
знаем мы ови

[brisk spoke]

Every regular forces are reskins of each other

Proof me wrong

[pure tendon]

нихуя они не будут делать

[shell cipher]

Why are u so nasty asshole?

[normal sinew]

спасибо что на русском заговорил, друг

я тебя и на англ понимал

[pure tendon]

мне впадлу языки спавать

[normal sinew]

просто ты не написал бы за "фейковый выбор" если бы выбрали япу или францию

[brisk spoke]

Yes rly

Arguments

Write an 300 word essay

[shell cipher]

So German is not reskin, but Ukraine is one?

[brisk spoke]

Eg

[normal sinew]

могу тебя по головке погладить за 2к часов, и за то, что в профиль зашел

[brisk spoke]

Russia uses ak12

Bro...

Anway whats wrong with ak

[shell cipher]

German use same as Canada, change my mind?

[brisk spoke]

So?

Good rifle

I like it

[crimson lintel]

joe biden we need 5 million bombs

[brisk spoke]

Bro like half of the world uses ak xd

Or platforms like ak

Even poland

[pure tendon]

Let’s agree that milsim lovers will always suck, and ico shit

[brisk spoke]

Beryl is ak based

And poland uses ak

Like shity copy

Think about it

[rustic garnet]

Half the world uses an AK

[brisk spoke]

Haha

Bro this is not in the most of the army

They use fucking bmp1 as main ifv

What are we talking about

Most of the WP uses ak based platforms

Zmech. is really underpaid

[gilded turret]

ig ukraine will have malyks, vulkans, btr-4, bm "bulat", kozak

[brisk spoke]

UA has funny mods of bmp, btr, mtlb

[rustic garnet]

Wdym everything stolen from Russia

[normal sinew]

ussr heritage

ain't no russian

[rustic garnet]

Russia just has everything stolen from insurgents

Why add russia

Why add any faction that shares any of the same weapons

Might as well merge 5 factions together they use the same stuff anyways

[normal sinew]

ukrainians dont use t72b3

[brisk spoke]

Use

And t80bvm

Actually

50 times

U talk about t84u

[normal sinew]

i meant its not their mbt

[brisk spoke]

There are 4 mods of t84

T84
T84u oplot
T84 oplot m
And oplot t

T84 produces like 50-60

T84u 10

Oplot m around 3

Oplot t around 50 if i remember correctly

[rustic garnet]

Who cares about some tank they have a few of

[brisk spoke]

Real

Anyway you can add a lot of tanks

And not tanks

Just mix it right way

Bradley, marder, bmp, mtlb with parus, btr3/4

Cv90

Bmd

[twilit tusk]

Have any better?

[brisk spoke]

There is no bmp, mtlb with parus and btr3/4

[normal sinew]

you can get banned for those type of words

[compact marsh]

LMFAO

[twilit tusk]

Lol.

[brisk spoke]

hru

hru

🐽

🐽

[normal sinew]

smartest russian dick rider

[brisk spoke]

He is polish i think

[twilit tusk]

And this is getting awkward by 1 phrase.

Just lol.

[brisk spoke]

Now you see the other side of people that dont want Ukraine in squad

🐽

[normal sinew]

as a ukrainian i dont see ukraine is a good fraction for squad

[foggy widget]

nah whats going on bruh 💀

[brisk spoke]

I didnt say that, you did

[normal sinew]

no one asked you

[brisk spoke]

Xd now you are not a ukr
/s

[normal sinew]

idk check my steam profile

japan would be better

or france

[plain tapir]

What a shock, the person with the anime livestreamer pfp is a low iq edge lord with terrible opinions

[brisk spoke]

?

[normal sinew]

not germany btw

[normal sinew]

its literally saying that i am from ukraine

[brisk spoke]

Check what "/s" means pls

This is satyre

[normal sinew]

i am not

from reddit

sorry

/s

[brisk spoke]

😭

[plain tapir]

Why would you think I'm Ukranian lol

[brisk spoke]

Yes.

[plain tapir]

Also i voted for Germany

The Japanese would hate you irl lmao

[brisk spoke]

mangozjeb spotted

[compact marsh]

Like you wouldnt do the same, be happy as your game gained some attraction due to Ukraine

[normal sinew]

its a fact tho

[plain tapir]

Dude who even cares, all of these factions are playable with mods anyway

[normal sinew]

cuz of russo-ukraine war squad gained some attraction

i mean

[compact marsh]

I guess if there was no Ukraine in the poll, you wouldnt cause the shitstorm you did

[normal sinew]

global escalation mod is one of the populaor mods

[plain tapir]

No GE is dogshit, the TC mods and the Budeswehr ones are great

[compact marsh]

"Ukros are nazis etc"

No its good

Ur bad

[plain tapir]

Again you are all fighting over factions that will all probably be added eventually anyway