Leopard 2A6M CAN caged variant taking 0 damage when shot in side by tank

[strange kite]

Leopard 2 caged and normal version taking 0 dmg when getting shot in the side by tank. This has been a thing with TOWs for a while now where the track area of the tank just eats 100% of the damage even when the track isn't there

https://youtu.be/W743d-y-hFg

This is most noticeable with TOWs on the Leo tanks but I have seen it happen to other tanks like ZTZ and ABRAMS but for some reason it now happens with T-72B3 AP

[main blade]

Squad armors have a "health bar" system. Unlike war thunder for example every shot on the tank have realistic damage models

[queen briar]

this happens because of the caged armor

a tow is not a tandem round

it doesnt have a double warhead

so after it hits the cage armor the first and only warhead gets destroyed

unlike the tandem which carries 2

if you tries this with a hat kit it would most likely work

but i agree there is something wrong here and it's that caged armor should be able to be shot off

[strange kite]

Ok first of all, this was all with T-72B3 Armour Piercing rounds so that has no effect

(the video)

[queen briar]

mb i saw you say tow n shit and i got it mixed up

[strange kite]

yeah but the kornet is also a tandem round

and a Kornet (even if it wasn't a tandem) would be more than able to pen the side of a leopard2

You know that the main affect of the cage isn't to act as spaced armor for tandem warheads, it is to have a chance to catch / make the (example: RPG-7 warhead) not detonate correctly. That is what ERA is used for (to destroy/block the function of warheads)

[strange kite]

this makes no sense with the context

[main blade]

It was hard for me to explain it. In real life, I am sure that you'd have to shoot the tank once in the ammo to rack it. In squad you have to shoot twice, which doesn't make sence. Gives you that arcade old world of tanks feeling.

Check out the armor system in squad 44, much better that in squad

[queen briar]

kornet is high explosive

[strange kite]

Yes but this is a post to bring awareness to a bug in the game, not to talk about the arcade HP system. I'd much rather play warthunder if i were to only thing about the tank physics. But I play squad due to the teamwork aspect

[strange kite]

what?

RPG-7 HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) has a single warhead, but is still a "high explosive"

and tandem warheads like javelin is also classified as "high explosive anti tank"

[strange kite]

Yes, but try to use google

this says nothing other than the kornet is meant to destroy armour

[mental torrent]

there's so much to unpack here I don't even know where to start

in squad cages have 0 effect on HEAT penetration and kornet is both high explosive and a tandem so

I don't know what this guy is saying

[mental torrent]

Do you see the video? The video where the tank is shot more than 2 times in the ammo rack but squad is not counting it as an ammo rack hit

Watch the bug report video then the bug report will make sense

[queen briar]

now that i watch it again it does not sound like it's from a t-72

r u sure its not a tow

[strange kite]

well i am sure because i was gunning the t-72

the video is bacially at 1% speed

ffs man i give up

[mental torrent]

no

[haughty ember]

ZTZ wouldnt be surprised if the TOW doesnt do shit cause frontal armor is thick as fuck

side shots to ZTZ on track area sometimes doesnt even track it for shit either too

somehow, i think angling is fucking up penetration values

if u can try and do testing on angled tanks, i have a feeling that damage is somehow reduced when u angle tanks

i had a few cases where angling a Leopard, it somehow didn't take damage for shit even when the opponent tank was hitting my sides

[strange kite]

Think it had something to do with that OWI somehow managed to make tracks bugged

[haughty ember]

not sure but i can semi-safely say angling a tank rn is doing some very whack shit even if you shoot them via the side

also doesnt help that ghost shells + rockets are a thing now albeit very rare

[strange kite]

yeah I remember noticing this like 1 year ago with chally

[haughty ember]

ion own a server so i cant do testing

[sterile plover]

Kornet is a High Explosive Anti-Tank Tandem Warhead Guided Missile

It has insane flat pen behind ERA

Kornet-E has 1000mm pen behind ERA

And Kornet-D has 1200mm pen behind ERA

Being stopped by the cage is insane

[rigid jolt]

that's incorrect

it does

[brittle bolt]

Mfs in this thread trying to explain why the not even angled side armor of a Leopard can casualy deny the dammage of 4 consecutive AP shells at 600 m range

bruh

The shells don't even bounce, they just do nothing. Cause, you know, Squad coding apparently

Also, very funny that "Bug Rarely Happens" mentions considering the numbers of shots that got sent to the shadow realms

[shy badger]

Squad players are some real dumbasses sometimes

[strange kite]

yes well i have over 2k hours in armour and you dont see this THAT often

that's why i put "bug rarely happens" although it seems to be recreatable

yeah well me and my mates have tried it on the Chinese armor testing thing a long time ago and it did have something to do with tracks eating shots

[brittle bolt]

On a unrelated note if i were you I would have moved closer or waited a bit.

It's known that dmg fall off makes it so around 600m you no longer 2 tap ammo. If you could have engaged just a tiny bit closer.

Doens't adress the elephant in the room tho

[strange kite]

I think I played it perfectly, I hit 5/6 shots straight on ammorack and I Was also able to get off 2 shots before he even found me.

Although the game fucked me

[brittle bolt]

Also, i remember something similar happening to me a long time ago. Same Leopard caged eating T72 shells on Tallil.

The worst part was that i was shooting his unangled left side.... from 100 m range. Still ate like 3 shells