Suppression effect

[ancient token]

Suppression effect lasts way too long from bullets. Seems like effects from mortars/explosives last for a shorter time which should be same for bullets.

The overall effect on your screen making everything gray and blured is awful.

Dubs made this which would be far better and easier on the eyes, explosives and large caliber guns can apply the heavy suppression effect where everything is blured while small arms apply this vinette effect.

And instead of twitching there should be slight misalingment. So instead of not being able to see the target due to blur you can actually return fire with slight inacuracy to your shots.

[obtuse cargo]

Get rid of this entire hassle.

[indigo flame]

Ahh good ol' times when you get tapped in the head while you suppressing a guy

[obtuse cargo]

Yeah, better than not being able to see shit for 20 secs while those that use 4x dont have the blur

[indigo flame]

Just give em same amount of shit

[leaden kayak]

How many shots do you feel you are "allowed" to miss before you rightly lose a fight?

[indigo flame]

@leaden kayakI didn't understand the question

[leaden kayak]

I mean that if they shoot you that means there was a direct line of sight. As such you missed shots and they did not.

[indigo flame]

@leaden kayakthey can lean or make a step around the corner for example

I don't like so much and so long blur either and something needs to be done for sure, but removing decent suppression is not good decision IMHO

[leaden kayak]

I feel like if you have already engaged from a position and failed to get the kill you should reposition before engaging again. The current strength of holding an angle vs peeking it is a very unenjoyable meta.

[indigo flame]

@leaden kayakmaybe. But maybe team games with random people are crap for the most part.

What is enjoyable meta for you? Let me guess - shift+w+tap everyone in a heads?

Devs definitely should've done two modes instead of forcing everyone.

[ancient token]

I just want a better suppression effect with slightly altered mechanic instead of adding sway and you guys just go off at eachother

[leaden kayak]

How are those the only two options in your mind?

[indigo flame]

@leaden kayakbecause most people want battlefield

[leaden kayak]

The people that want BF dont play Squad. This game is a boring walking sim to 99.99% of the FPS community. The people that choose to play this are here for the Squad experience, not BF.
I could honestly not disagree with your statement more.

If you dont even regard Squad players as "true" Squad players that is some major gate keeping.

[indigo flame]

Sorry, i just want Squad to be more mil-sim-like (ARMA with HABs). Squad before ICO is just Battlefield with HABs for me (idk is there HABs in BF?), despite what ""true" Squad players" think. But the devs made the wrong decision when forced everyone to play mil-sim-like Squad.@leaden kayak

[leaden kayak]

You claim that v5 was BF with HABs. That is wild and completely absurd when taking the wide range of the FPS market into account. Squad has always been on the very fringe of the realism end. By your own admittance you dont actually know what is (in) BF. Also it seems likely to me that you dont know Arma either. As someone with an extensive amount of time in multiple Arma titles let me tell you that it isnt a MilSim. Its a Sandbox for people to play Life mods, KotH, Wasteland and importantly DayZ type games. There are no public 50v50 combined arms PvP milsim scenarios.
All that aside why are we having some fundamental finger pointing competition of who is and is not a Squad player and what it should and should not be.

The question was: At what point is suppression just you missing shots and deserving to loose the fight?

[glossy iron]

but people got headaches in the playtest when scopes had blur when suppressed 😢

[keen schooner]

it wasn't because blur but pip itself being somewhat floaty

[glossy iron]

everybody told me scopes don't have blur from suppression because the blur would cause headaches not the pip

but I think if you get headaches from blur effects you probably shouldn't be playing video games as a general

[spare finch]

Uh, most video games don't have egregious full screen blur effects. And the "people should just cope with a game they paid for becoming inaccessible to them" is just the stupidest take ever.