iron arch
Greetings everyone,
We just figured out how the Adventure Guide book works and were wondering what things that you as the players would like added to it.
The purpose of these additions would be to clarify base game and custom Lumi functionality, such as the Incense burner and the nature changer.
proven ledge
Could do it for the IV Judge (press + in a PC box) or the everlasting candies, etc
past glacier
Poggers
split night
willow hinge
tight violet
i would put there stuff thats too meta to explain in the trainer school, since thats like, in game rom documentation
proven knoll
I beg yee to clarify the egg cycles and obscure breeding garbage.
mortal cobalt
yeah was about to say same thing
basically just meta stuff that doesnt fit into that trainer school
system changes, new features
remote basin
Talk about Critical Hits and how they scale
iron arch
Talk about Critical Hits and how they scale
remote basin
Or how items affect Breeding
scarlet rain
maybe common questions someone might have like important item locations or level caps?
proven knoll
I second the incense burner stuff. Also conveyance on the methods on how to change abilities
vague bear
IMO basegame stuff shouldn't be explained
mortal cobalt
i feel like battle mechanics should be in trainer school
like crits
https://discord.com/channels/912508046159261728/1045787244323147837
we had entire thing about that
iron arch
maybe common questions someone might have like important item locations or level...
That's a good one, could be expanded to explanations for all the custom exefs behaviour and how/where to change them.
main geyser
locations for level/EV trainers
vague bear
it's just eterna (exp only) and pastoria
iron arch
to clarify, me pinning does not mean it's going in, just that the idea is worth considering
main geyser
it's just eterna (exp only) and pastoria
ik but it’s probably good to have in-game acknowledgement of that
mortal cobalt
||wont it be funny if all of this is added only for nobody to read it||
lethal peak
I'd use it as a sort of in-game shortcut for the documentation
lost radish
tight violet
i guess there also goes stuff like how ai picks moves, dex nav chains (shiny chances etc), catch rates and formulas(?)
modern forge
its kinda sexy
mortal cobalt
oh yeah, you are making a website with documentation
putting up link to it there would be decent thing i feel like
tight violet
how do you open a link there though
vague bear
you don't
tight violet
woah
mortal cobalt
If link isnt long, its not gonna be much of an issue
tranquil forge
I don't know how I feel about shoving a bunch of meta stuff in there
mortal cobalt
if its like wiki.luminescent.com or something
its simple enough to understand, yeah?
zinc abyss
Mention any changes to moves or pokemon from the base game
tranquil forge
I want stuff like "this is the incense burner, use it from your bag" etc
mortal cobalt
I don't know how I feel about shoving a bunch of meta stuff in there
but you already have something in progress that is supposed to act as main learning resource for the game
lost radish
Maybe show all of the possible encounters for routes you’ve already visited?
modern forge
Greetings everyone,
We just figured out how the Adventure Guide book works and ...
Maybe shiny pokemon chances?
tranquil forge
Mention any changes to moves or pokemon from the base game
In a small toast?
mortal cobalt
just use font size 4
zinc abyss
In a small toast?
mostly just type changes
rugged burrow
"Phenomenon seen in other regions, like Mega Evolution and Dynamax, are not found in Sinnoh, and are not replicable"
mortal cobalt
that still gonna be a lot for 900 pokemon
zinc abyss
nothing like Power this, power that. Just like Oh in this region the pokemon now has a fairy type or Oh in this region this move is now physical
vague bear
wayyy to many still
mortal cobalt
but if out of 200 moves 100 get changed effects
for example, that would still be a lot
tight violet
"Phenomenon seen in other regions, like Mega Evolution and Dynamax, are not foun...
*and human body anatomy
mortal cobalt
"hating chibis is, in fact, considered to be a skill issue in sinnoh"
zinc abyss
How long till Luminescent's gimmick is added 
vague bear
-1 million years
zinc abyss
Chibification gimmick, makes your pokemon harder to hit 
lime flame
Chibification gimmick, makes your pokemon harder to hit <:kekgir:101680638836790...
Oh no...
tight violet
"hating chibis is, in fact, considered to be a skill issue in sinnoh"
coming here before yisunos dechibification mod becomes the most dlownloaded mod in gamebanana
tranquil forge
So turn the Pokemon into rumble models
proven ledge
Not talking about meta, talking about mechanics
Features that need explaining
Game mechanics like breeding and shit will be its own stuff in the school
modern forge
Explain shiny pokemon
tranquil forge
coming here before yisunos dechibification mod becomes the most dlownloaded mod ...
I can confirm that Yisuno isn't working on that actively.
mortal cobalt
thats school material
tranquil forge
Yes, guys, please keep in mind that the SCHOOL will be explaining game mechanics, not these popups
tight violet
maybe use the guide book as an early (bootleg unbound) mission log
since you can (probably) arbitarily decide when to add entries in certain points in the game
idk maybe do something more clever than an ingame pdf
lost radish
Would there be a way to look back on conversations you’ve had with NPC’s? For those who want to find the legendaries without a guide that could be useful for remembering who you need to talk to
tight violet
yeah like a subtle "where to go next" or smth
because legendaries are (probably) just going to be scattered left and right
at least not until they get interconected misions and whatnot
tranquil forge
We can do something like a quest log yeah, but this is about the toast popups more than the adventure log
tight violet
oh, whats the difference between the adventure log and the toast popups?
i thought this was about the ingame documentation thingy item you get at the start
lost radish
The ingame popups that go in the adventure log like when HMs are explained to you
tranquil forge
There's also the journal item that has pages and all that
lost radish
Tbh I can’t think of much that wouldn’t end up feeling redundant
pine hound
Tell us that tms are infinite when you get your first one
tranquil forge
Can do
tight violet
then maybe restrain the popups to lumi exclusive features as someone who is currently playing lumi would likely find a bother any other explanation present in any other romhack
languid haven
There should absolutely be a tutorial on the things that can be considered a skill issue
proven ledge
The NPC in the school that gives you what should be your first says they're infinite
languid haven
lost radish
Are there any roamers in this game?
tranquil forge
Nope
tight violet
i think they turned all roamers into static
proven ledge
Infinite static encounters?
tranquil forge
Not yet at least
tranquil forge
Infinite static encounters?
Good call
tranquil forge
Infinite static encounters?
proven ledge
First time hitting Rotom or Gengar room, have it pop up to say you can kill/run infinitely
pine hound
Pc settings (exp, affection, lvl cap) and stuff like move relearning + nickname changing could be mentioned
lost radish
Mm, cause I was gonna say once you encounter one and it runs away a popup explaining what a roamer is and how to track them
tranquil forge
First time hitting Rotom or Gengar room, have it pop up to say you can kill/run ...
Walking into the Gengar room would be a good place for that because they'd be like "wait... What static encounter?"
tight violet
have a pop up telling you can set your pokemon follower right off the bat
lost radish
Oh true
pine hound
have a pop up telling you can set your pokemon follower right off the bat
Mom mentions it I think but that could be a nicer way of saying it
tight violet
also a pop up telling you about the pc settings when you enter the first pkmn center
tranquil forge
Plus that's not relevant for Rotom because Rotom is literally endlessly encounterable even if you catch it
lost radish
One for when you’ve captured every legendary/in game event so you know once you’re finished? Again for those not using a guide
proven ledge
have a pop up telling you can set your pokemon follower right off the bat
Your mom tells you this herself
"You should walk with your Pokémon"
tight violet
interesante, a bit cryptic imo
like every mainline games your mom tells you "go with your pokemon to have an adventure" or whatever
so its easy to dismiss it
as a "yeah yeah mom talk to you when i finish the league" moment
maybe a pop up telling you that e4 has semi-random teams
pop up when you enter the underground telling you about riding the bike inside or the new underground features
lost radish
One for when you’ve captured every legendary/in game event so you know once you’...
Along the same line just one for when you’ve 100% each part of the game? Like becoming champion, regional dex, national dex, legendaries, side quests, etc
tranquil forge
maybe a pop up telling you that e4 has semi-random teams
All "boss" trainers do
lost radish
Just for that hit of dopamine
vague bear
minus Dawn/Lucas and Galactic Commanders
wanton nexus
A pop up for the item that transform mewtwo into armor mewtwo
tranquil forge
A pop up for the item that transform mewtwo into armor mewtwo
tranquil forge
Along the same line just one for when you’ve 100% each part of the game? Like be...
I'll reiterate that this is a separate thing from the journal
lost radish
Right I don’t mean like a log
tranquil forge
They're technically named the same, but separate features. We've been talking about a quest log
tight violet
can you remove journal pages?
tranquil forge
Yes
tight violet
damn, thats a bomb ass begining for a quest log
paper sluice
Greetings everyone,
We just figured out how the Adventure Guide book works and ...
in game changelog would be nice
tight violet
you can replace a mission page marked as on going with the same page but marked as complete
damn now im hyped
pine hound
Mention that honey trees are instant after you get honey?
tight violet
Mention that honey trees are instant after you get honey?
it would be on the same league as having a pop up mentioning eggs are instant
yeah, you could technically add it, but the player was going to notice it 2 seconds after getting a egg/putting honey, and you likely dont wanna add 200 unnecesary popups for every lumi feature
tranquil forge
Disagree
I didn't use honey because I'll forget that shit
I will knowing it's instant
I will hatch eggs
pine hound
Same
tight violet
i mean both the eggs and the honey you get it by just playing
tranquil forge
Yeah but I won't use honey unless I know it's instant
vague bear
I mean it's also an RP thing
tight violet
unless you explicitly refuse to get the egg in aknowledgement that eggs usually take a long time, in which case youre a maniac for not wanting to know whats inside the biological gachapon that are random eggs
vague bear
not like it's anything actually new
tranquil forge
You'd be surprised how many people in here haven't played Ren
vague bear
oh i'm aware
but i mean that's more a them problem imo that we shouldn't have to hold their hand that much
tight violet
i mean its barely a ren remake by now
tranquil forge
Guess we can put it in the dudes chat when you get the honey
tight violet
you get honey in florama right
vague bear
yeah after the galactic fight
iron arch
oh, whats the difference between the adventure log and the toast popups?
they are the same, just the journal goes into more detail
tranquil forge
But they don't necessarily need to be tied together right?
Like we can do a toast but not open up a page?
iron arch
But they don't necessarily need to be tied together right?
correct
tranquil forge
Wait I have a better idea
iron arch
but I can't force open the adventure guide, only toasts
tight violet
damn you can even make categories and sections?
tranquil forge
Yeah so basically you can think of each entry as dividers
tranquil forge
It appears we can add extra pages to sections later
We need to make a tool to deal with it, it's currently kinda convoluted
tight violet
good luck to all the poor souls
tranquil forge
Not exceptionally unruly, but a pain to make into a quest log. But very powerful
Surprisingly so, considering nobody ever opens the fucking thing lol
tight violet
in that case, it would be necessary a pop up telling you to check the new adventure log
or well, i suppose your mom would do a better job at that
dont need a pop up for everything after all
welp good luck with your ideas 
little bay
mfw all my ideas were thought of
pine hound
Let's not pretend like we didn't just all look at #1004509309834641488
fierce karma
Personally I would like there to be a guide for beginners to be able to figure out how to competitively breed
iron arch
That'll be going in the trainer school, but we can certainly add a tip here to tell you to go to the trainer school to learn that
grand vine
Is there a way to put all the changes in the adventure guide 😅
proven ledge
Is there a way to put all the changes in the adventure guide 😅
Like the #1004509309834641488 channel but in the game itself?
I'm not against it in general
grand vine
Like the <#1004509309834641488> channel but in the game itself?
Yes, but I know that’s a lot 😂
proven ledge
Nah. In theory it might be doable, we would just have to get creative with fitting limitations, and a lot of the gritty pokedex changes will just be a link to the upcoming site.
coral hornet
is there a way to have one appear every time you white out that just says "skill issue"
iron arch
iron arch
Just put the whole discord into the guide
proven knoll
Why must you mock me like this
wanton nexus
We should incorporate sammy G's art as an illustration for the features. For example integrate this image to the description of the incence burner
or this one for the description of the item to transform mewtwo into armor mewtwo
lethal peak
Seconded