#nerf hamon?

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mental marsh
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read up bby

flat rose
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ok?

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still dont change my opinion but sure

winter merlin
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if you've been here longer then try and prove the fact you are and stop making such ass claims

lean marten
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Insane amounts of accusations

winter merlin
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you my guy are obviously biased towards vamp

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as you said

winter merlin
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you like it more

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check mate

flat rose
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bro life is around rotp

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it is never that serious

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wait never that serious..........

lean marten
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King I legit suggested thta vampires lose their resistance 2 because it was too broken, I suggested that hamon gets is healing redesigned because it was too broken

lean marten
winter merlin
# flat rose never that serious

maybe instead of taking that amazing gif you have out of context try reading the fact i was replying to messages sent after i woke up the next day gng

lean marten
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How about we stop then

soft hollow
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Holy shit, there's too much to read...

mental marsh
winter merlin
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i dont think the "needed hamon nerf" was that serious that you had to go on a generational track of multiple days of crying about the "needed nerf"

flat rose
mental marsh
flat rose
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never that serious..........

winter merlin
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poly relation?

soft hollow
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Sure

flat rose
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

winter merlin
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yeah ๐Ÿซฆ

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i am

flat rose
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ouuuuuuuuu

mental marsh
winter merlin
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i wish i had that many men to myself

mental marsh
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fr

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๐Ÿคฃ

flat rose
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cone on bro

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WE.LOVE.HAMON

sudden sable
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Keep the conversation on topic and be meaningful discussion, if your response is "look at this dude ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ˜ญ" Then it isnt and I will lock the suggestion recieving messages, as it is just chatting that could be done in any other channel at that point

mental marsh
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no ill lock u

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in my basement

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until u decide u wanna join the conversation in a meaningful way

raven fiber
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He doesn't try to listen and debate opinions, but rather mock it and mostly asking for fights when presented a discussion

flat rose
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meaning you dont really know what you talking about sadly

raven fiber
raven fiber
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And if you actually slightly understand my messages, im not talking about the mod, but rather how you don't want to hear opinions from actually constructive discussions from people like godday and dogger, making this suggestion useless, as you're making it like that.

flat rose
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this is pvp talk not pve

raven fiber
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Thats the proof you're not understanding my messages

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They aren't opinions, they're facts about your actions

flat rose
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yeah right

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you saying this while godday agree with me on vc

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but its okay bro

flat rose
raven fiber
flat rose
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its about nerfing hamon

raven fiber
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Yeah you got scared anyways pepeLove

flat rose
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so would you be kind enough to accept?

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how am i scared when your never answering yes?

raven fiber
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I agreed to your freeze only challenge, not anything else

flat rose
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come on

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i will not use any stand

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just hamon

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as long as you dont face a actual decent player using hamon i would simply ignore you okay

raven fiber
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Ignore me when im not even talking about hamon?

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Im talking about your ignorance and total mockery of opinions, discussions, arguments that are possibly, and most likely constructive

sudden sable
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fellas, I will close this thing if y'all keep this up

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just wait for the server to open if you want to fight

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geez

analog schooner
mental marsh
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this thread is gold ๐Ÿ˜ญ

winter merlin
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I thought we agreed on the fact that whilst hamon only needs some true damage nerfed, the reason vamp is bad is because it hasn't gotten reworked

chrome cipher
mental marsh
flat rose
flat rose
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hamon has better speedboost compare to vamp

winter merlin
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"I thought we agreed on the fact that whilst hamon only needs some true damage nerfed, the reason vamp is bad is because it hasn't gotten reworked"

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youre blatantly being ignorant

winter merlin
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theres no point in communicating with you

flat rose
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nobody answered you

raven fiber
winter merlin
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"the reason vamp is bad is because it hasn't gotten reworked"

chrome cipher
winter merlin
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weever dont bother

chrome cipher
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im not rotp pvp player at all

winter merlin
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next thing you know hes gonna mock you and make a gif out of you

flat rose
raven fiber
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Nah he different

flat rose
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mb buffed

winter merlin
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when it gets reworked?

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read?

flat rose
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i said 'when'

chrome cipher
flat rose
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but you know dog its okay i saw you fight and all you do is use sendo ground attack and spam it to win

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so i see why you dont want it nerfed

winter merlin
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bro thinks i personally know standos schedule to tell him when its gonna be reworked....

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youre a manchild

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grow up....

flat rose
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lol

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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i saw you fight bro you just spam ground attack

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of hamon

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you dont even use your stand

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no wonder you wrote a whole book to not get it nerfed

raven fiber
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Caillou went from "i can solo hamon uses with vamp freeze only" then dies to godday and starts this whole thing and he wont even acknowledge people's discussions on the post:s objective

flat rose
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or i destroyed people with hamon only while they use stand?

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if you think for a second you might realize 'oh wait why can hamon user kill a stand user mmmmh must be pretty strong'

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but no you cant

raven fiber
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And you think that is that a good enough reason to mock and ignore objections against the post

flat rose
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its not mocking its just you personally do not pvp

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and when i ask to show you you run away

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so why should i bother talking to you

raven fiber
raven fiber
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I dont need to pvp to see when youre mocking someone and ignoring their opinion

flat rose
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or jonathan killing josuke?

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i dont think so

raven fiber
flat rose
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dont speak in here if you dont test it out first thats all i ask

raven fiber
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You dont realize how strong it is

flat rose
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please show me the panel saying this?

raven fiber
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By comparing the feats and scaling of a stand to hamon

winter merlin
flat rose
winter merlin
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instead you got dio second guessing on what he was gonna do, which he never ever showed again after that interaction

flat rose
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right?

winter merlin
flat rose
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he still almost won?

flat rose
winter merlin
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except for when he needed to blow up and sever his neck for the hamon to not kill him from one gut punch?

raven fiber
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Jonathan was so nerfed for the plot

flat rose
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not this am talking about

winter merlin
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ikr

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dio should have imploded

flat rose
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am talking about the 'real' last fight

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not in the ship

raven fiber
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Like how someone strong as him loses to dio's severed head

flat rose
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your acting like everyone got jonathan gifted ass hamon and joseph iq in the mod

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

raven fiber
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Vampire 's weakness

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And dio was a prodigy in vampire mastery

flat rose
raven fiber
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A normal vampire would easily succumb to an injured william zeppeli

winter merlin
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who's gonna win, a vampire or the fucking sun itself

raven fiber
flat rose
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we acting like he did not beat pillarmen

winter merlin
flat rose
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who got one of the highest iq

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?

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yeah bro

raven fiber
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Joseph vs straizo in the bar was mostly the guns, grenade and the mirror

flat rose
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danny why are you acting like joseph would not beat the shit out of dio

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lmao

raven fiber
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If straizo would not have used a satiporoja scarf, he would have been severely hurt, but not dead as Joseph's hamon was still really weak

winter merlin
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then you admit that vamp is dogshit

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reading between the lines

flat rose
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its not dogshit?

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joseph surpass jonathan easily

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thats just why...

raven fiber
winter merlin
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is both jonathan and joseph beat dio then clearly something is wrong with dio

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joseph didnt even have enough hamon knowledge in the straizo fight to beat him

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straizo killed himself

raven fiber
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Post training joseph would, but pre training joseph is NOTHING against dio

flat rose
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still joseph end of part 2

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i mean actually

winter merlin
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but still

flat rose
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after his training

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he just is stronger then every hamon user

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easily

winter merlin
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if the forgotten hamon of joseph part 3

flat rose
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with his iq

winter merlin
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who hasnt used any hamon after part 2

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got dio scared to touch his booty

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then we can agree that an apprentice hamon user could defeat a vampire

flat rose
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bro we all know that josepg

raven fiber
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Thats waht i said

winter merlin
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because over the years of no usage the hamon degrades

flat rose
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(who defeated fucking kars)

winter merlin
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like muscles

raven fiber
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A normal vampire would easily be defeated by an injured william zeppeli

flat rose
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like bro

winter merlin
flat rose
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we acting like joseph did not beat pillarmen

raven fiber
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Defeating kars was pure luck

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Nothing of josepj

winter merlin
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yes

flat rose
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no hamon master doing ts

winter merlin
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and santana

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also

flat rose
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beside joseph

winter merlin
flat rose
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ok well yeah

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maybe her

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but thats it

raven fiber
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Someone that almost died to wamuu would not defeat a freaking god

winter merlin
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she would have whopped ass of the 3 pillermen besides kars in a 1v1

flat rose
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tell me rn another hamon user

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beating him

raven fiber
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Lisa

winter merlin
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caesar simply ran out of durability on his soap gloves ofc ofc

flat rose
raven fiber
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Yes, caesar died but in the pillarmen's territory

flat rose
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you must be kidding me bro

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ah yes

raven fiber
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Even in their territory, caesar was close to defeating wamuu

winter merlin
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caesar died cause he got cocky, mad and not in the right space of mind when fighting wamuu

flat rose
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ts pmo

winter merlin
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you pmo

raven fiber
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Out of 100 fights, caesar would win a maximum of 50-60 fights

flat rose
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am arguing with people who think every hamon user is like joseph

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yeah we really did not watch part 2 bro

raven fiber
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BRO

winter merlin
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i am arguing with a galvan

raven fiber
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Im losing my formality soon...

winter merlin
raven fiber
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MAN WE ARE SAYING EVEN A WEAK HAMON USER CAN DEFEAT A NORMAL VAMPIRE

winter merlin
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all the village vampires were actual fodder imo

raven fiber
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HAMON IS LITERALLY TOUCH TO WIN

winter merlin
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dogshit

flat rose
raven fiber
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HAMON IS ABOUT REACHING THE VAMPIRES WITH THEIR WEAKNESS IN YOUR HANDS

flat rose
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?

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dio showed multiple time just surviving hits

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pillarmen barely take any dmg

raven fiber
flat rose
raven fiber
flat rose
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watch

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there is way to bypass it

raven fiber
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Did dio survive a lot of hits?

flat rose
raven fiber
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Hitting a vampire with constant sunrays are gonna kill them

flat rose
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

raven fiber
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He did not survive a significant amount of punches

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By significant i mean what a wrestler would need to win agaisnt another wrestler

flat rose
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all of this just to not get hamon nerfed

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

raven fiber
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You brought the canon discussion, bou

flat rose
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while never pvp himself

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its actually funny

raven fiber
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We are talking about hamon in jojo

winter merlin
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pvp'ing doesnt make your claims automatically right though

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youre delulu

flat rose
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so i will hear you out

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danny your acting like dio did not survive multiple hit of hamon

winter merlin
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"I thought we agreed on the fact that whilst hamon only needs some true damage nerfed, the reason vamp is bad is because it hasn't gotten reworked"

flat rose
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and pillarmen only extremely strong hamon user have a chance (joseph)

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thats it bro.

raven fiber
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You're mocking my opinion now, even if it doesnt have anything to do with rotp pvp, but proving how vampires can be defeated with a few sunrays (weakness) by referencing JJBS, and I've given way more than enough proof of that.

winter merlin
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pillermen are strong in the mod fym

flat rose
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not really

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lol

raven fiber
winter merlin
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bro youre genuinely never gonna be happy unless vamp and pillermen heavily power creep hamon

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sybau

flat rose
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i was against a kars cd

winter merlin
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please

raven fiber
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He did not survive a significant amount of punches

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By significant i mean what a wrestler would need to win agaisnt another wrestler

flat rose
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clapped him up with like 5 metal overdrive

winter merlin
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i pray every day that sword byte closes this ass thread and bans you from suggesting

winter merlin
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you fight against jonathan pre hamon

flat rose
flat rose
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to win

winter merlin
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i do

flat rose
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bum

raven fiber
winter merlin
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dio got his arm chopped off, split in half and then should have died to getting his guts blown out by hamon

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but lived to continue plot

flat rose
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your defending like your life depending on it cause you know you gonna lose with hamon being nerfed

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since you get carried by it

raven fiber
winter merlin
flat rose
raven fiber
winter merlin
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i dont like playing sc or cd

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from base mod

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oh wow

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3 moves at my disposal as silver chariot

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leme actually NOT use my sub ability

winter merlin
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maybe 4 if you count the flower that took his eye out for a quick second

raven fiber
flat rose
winter merlin
flat rose
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i was beating your bf up with no hamon

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no ts

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no vamp

winter merlin
flat rose
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i literally was beating godday with pure stand?

winter merlin
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peak enetertainment

flat rose
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i still won?

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like

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way more

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idk why you glazing him

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like i said hamon carry most fight

winter merlin
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like that one time he let you kill him cause he accidently pressed the ts button?

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oh wow

flat rose
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fight last a good 5 sec with it

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nothing fun about that

flat rose
winter merlin
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if you enjoy 20 minute fights go to eyes of ender

flat rose
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its okayโค๏ธ

winter merlin
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to my pookie?

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sigh

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must get a mod involved

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cant believe we're homophobic in the big 25

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๐Ÿ’”

flat rose
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โค๏ธ

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smh its funny

winter merlin
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bro thinks im not gonna do it

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๐Ÿ’”

flat rose
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we being delusional cause hes daddy losing to me

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wow

raven fiber
flat rose
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poor dog

flat rose
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get out you were not even there

raven fiber
flat rose
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stop yapping without knowing anything

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jesus

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its like talking to a new born baby

winter merlin
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stop im almost crying from these insults

flat rose
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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i just give a exemple

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hes talking just to talk smh

raven fiber
# flat rose jesus

I dont need to have watched a fight if doggerton, who has, is telling me godday refused to use ts, yet you specified that he ws using ts stands for more "glory" if you may call it like that

flat rose
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anyways dog like i said i was winning like 80% of the fight with no hamon on both side

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not using ts

raven fiber
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Why must you insult and mock

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I'm talking respectfully and formal

flat rose
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and he even agreed with me dog

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hamon need dmg nerf

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and the ground too

winter merlin
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he agreed but that doesnt warrant your schizo rant

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take a rest with a hot coco

raven fiber
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Sendo needs a placement nerf, thats what he said

winter merlin
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you (dont) deserve it)

flat rose
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its okay tho

winter merlin
flat rose
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then you saw me killing him multiples times?

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or are you being delulu?

raven fiber
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I cant undertand these modern terms

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Stuff like sybau, delulu, ts, pmo

winter merlin
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be so duduz

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๐Ÿ’”

flat rose
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i beat him straight punch with hamon

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like yeah?

winter merlin
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water found in ocean

flat rose
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a quite easy fight too

winter merlin
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youre lost dude

raven fiber
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Greatest as in quantity

winter merlin
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might make it easier to digest

flat rose
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thats cool bro

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should had used it idk what to tell you

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i still won almost every fight where it was only stand anyways

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so your point?

raven fiber
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My point is that he refused to use his strongest move, that was buffed thanks to vampire, while you were using your strongest moves

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Try to fight fairly next time

flat rose
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๐Ÿ’€

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this is why i ignore you

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talk to talk

raven fiber
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Being 9second TS

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When did i say punch

flat rose
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dude at least can you actually know what you talking about

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you were not even there

raven fiber
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Oh you mean yourself

flat rose
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stop talking please

raven fiber
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Im saying

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He wss heavily handicapped

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You should have handicapped yourselfm

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Im gonna go for now

raven fiber
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@winter merlin be sure to stay formal and show lingual and mental superiority

flat rose
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lmap

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your funny bro

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this is what happen when someone is being delusional guys

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guys remember to take the pill of the morning

raven fiber
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You show lesser formality, as you resort to insults and are closed to open, constructive opinions

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Cyall for like 2 hours

flat rose
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yeah because all you do is literally talking over things you were either not there or never tested yourself

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its like talking to a wall

raven fiber
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When did i talk about hamon mechanics and pvp strengthe

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I mostly started with references of your unformality

lean marten
flat rose
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hes getting annoying

lean marten
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Idgaf

flat rose
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well i did

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dont tell me i have to clip now

lean marten
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I don't see the point but ok

lean marten
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Even you saw that the fights are edging

flat rose
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do you not remember our sp hamon vs tw vamp

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i was outhealing at some point

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long fights hamon clear

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for heal

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food+ regen

lean marten
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With the guy who does slightly more damage winning, like I was able to land more hamon punches and won those encounters. Against vampire it's again just edging the vampire till they can't defend themselves

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They have to rely on time stop

lean marten
flat rose
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thats my point bro...

lean marten
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Right but what's the issue

flat rose
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well hamon you can just charge it up all over again

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infinitely

lean marten
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It's meant to abuse Ur stand stamina and or the 9s which neither of us time.stopped cus of the other people playing

flat rose
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takes 1-2 sec to do

lean marten
lean marten
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I think you should be unable to charge it when attacked

lean marten
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It would encourage vampire to be more aggressive aswell

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Which they can afford due to infinite stamina

flat rose
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but still

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just use ground hamon...

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vamp getting cooked

lean marten
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While the hamon user has a harder time running away to recharge it

lean marten
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I think it will be fine

flat rose
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to all hamon dmg

lean marten
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I listed it there too vro

flat rose
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but like yeah

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for now pvp is boring as hell with hamon

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its literally cheesing

lean marten
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But I think that's more of an issue of stands not passively blocking all hits

flat rose
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they should be able too lol

lean marten
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Idk this could be indirectly fixed in the future

flat rose
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well blocking will be more skillfull ig

lean marten
flat rose
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barely works

lean marten
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Idk it's kinda weird

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In our encounters id just be able to land more normal punches really

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Legit the most prominent kind of pure PvP if you just want to compare numbers

flat rose
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i did not even know that the stand could even passively block hamon attack

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did not even realize

lean marten
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They block all attacks

flat rose
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thats how ass the hitbox is

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

raven fiber
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@flat rose his point is, hamon, a weakness of vampires, has strong points, while vampires with their innate talents, have their strong points (stamina and timestop)

flat rose
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ik you can by blocking

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but like without blocking

lean marten
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Again blocking is just there for heavy punches

flat rose
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yeah pretty much

lean marten
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Even tho I think it's useless kinda for SP or TW

flat rose
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barrage need to be more useful

lean marten
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Since their heavy punches can't be punished

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Even if you do block it it's so fast that both of you can just do it again

flat rose
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vamp get destroyed

lean marten
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Which is imo fine, I think that breathing should be stopped when taking damage

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Could provide more of a chance

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Cus again you are supposed to be aggressive as a vampire

raven fiber
flat rose
flat rose
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a while ago you made it sound like he could win with vamp

lean marten
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I don't think he did

raven fiber
flat rose
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he said only reason i won was cause you did not ts

raven fiber
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Hamon IS made to destroy vampires

lean marten
flat rose
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or wait til it ends then ts

lean marten
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Id you wanna try in a bit in free but I gotta eat

lean marten
raven fiber
# raven fiber Hamon IS made to destroy vampires

Vampire however, have abilities to defend themselves against the sunrays in someone's hand (their weakness if you didn't get it) a ranged laser, and a talent for almost infinite stamina and a 9 second timestop

flat rose
lean marten
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A big part of time.stop stand PvP is counting the other dudes seconds

flat rose
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or just ts last sec

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in your ts

raven fiber
flat rose
raven fiber
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If he stand jumps

flat rose
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you should really play and try it out man

lean marten
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SRSE is not a good move really

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Or any projectile

flat rose
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they stop in ts lol

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

raven fiber
lean marten
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Again the stand will either deflect it or the other dude will fall before it hits

raven fiber
lean marten
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It's a risky ass move

flat rose
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i really wanna see your word into action

lean marten
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I can't VC tho, parents are getting political

flat rose
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danny

lean marten
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Bro I'm going to fucking school after 6 months of December

flat rose
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who has a lot to say about hamon

lean marten
flat rose
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yeah ik ik

lean marten
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Ofc I'm gonna join

flat rose
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i want him to join too

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he has a lot of opinion

lean marten
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I just gotta make it cracked

flat rose
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i want to see him see how hamon is not busted as he say

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its supposed to be busted as he said

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

lean marten
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Vro don't make it personal

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That's just goofy

flat rose
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a quote he did 'hamon was showed to be stronger then some stand'

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ah yes

lean marten
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I mean in terms of healing?

flat rose
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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he was talking about how hamon would be able to beat them

lean marten
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Idk stands vary

flat rose
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hamon user cant even see the stand........

lean marten
flat rose
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yet alone stand just block it

lean marten
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No hamon can interact with stands

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They are both life energy

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In part 3 Dio used knives to kill Joseph because he was gonna blow up if TW touched hamon infused hermit purple

winter merlin
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Erm obviously make it so hamon users under 4 hearts fill their bar up slower since yo they would panic and not be in the right place of mind to breathe normally to charge hamon

lean marten
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Vro no

winter merlin
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Bc it nerfs hamon but sure

flat rose
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yeah canon

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so?

winter merlin
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Hats what I'm saying

lean marten
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When was it canon? Actually they would really only lose when they couldn't breathe

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But the only thing that stops that is freeze which is ass

lean marten
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Maybe if we had neck wounds and shif

flat rose
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nah fr

lean marten
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That could be a cool thing

flat rose
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that shit useless

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hamon does too much dmg

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you dont even have time to use it

lean marten
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Maybe just a custom effect where your lungs or air pipe is fucked could be cool

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Idk how the fuck you'd determine it but it's not a bad idea

flat rose
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maybe like

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where the vamp aim

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if he aims at their mouth

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it stop their hamon

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or something

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idk

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if they aim the leg they cant move

winter merlin
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but hamon would heal that

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canon wise

raven fiber
raven fiber
# flat rose who has a lot to say about hamon

Yes, and i have said it, i know i am correct with my references to JJBA, and i never have talked about hamon mechanics or barely about ROTP, the only stuff I've talked about is your disrespect and how vampires are weak to hamon (sunlight power) and using references from the show.

flat rose
raven fiber
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I have not shown signs of anger, and i am not angry.

lean marten
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theres nothing to talk about its fine

flat rose
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once you have done your testing and test with a player please give me a good opinion about what you think

winter merlin
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ts not about balancing, its about your rant and shizo talks

flat rose
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anyways i can play now btw

winter merlin
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bro thinks hes part of the team

lean marten
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its been 2 hours vro

flat rose
raven fiber