#Hermit Purple HFTF Edition

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lime sable
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Now while Hermit Purple is a good candidate for the next coming stand I'd like to try and suggest a version of Hermit Purple more so based on Old Josephs moveset from HFTF

Now this stand is Hamon Conductive meaning that having and training Hamon increases the damage and range of some of this stands moves however none of the moves are locked behind it.

When summoned the user deals 1.5 heart's of damage with fists

Attack 1 - Vine Strike: This move is a simple forward strike with the vines dealing 3 hearts of damage if hit, however when sneaking the vines will strike on the floor rather then straight at the enemy, a great way to keep the enemy on their toes, this ability is not effected by Hamon and a 1 sec cooldown
Attack 2 - Vine swipe: This move is a shorter ranged, wide spread multi-hit move where the vines will be swept sideways, each hit doing 1 heart of damage and hits 3 times, when doing it in the air the vines will strike downwards for a more precise hit, this move will deal 0.5 extra damage with Hamon and will deflect projectiles and has a 2 second cooldown with a 0.5 second period where the user will be slowed down
Attack 3 - Turquoise Overdrive: This is a move where when activated, vines will rap around the user slowing them down but the vines will jerk around hitting anything in a 1 block radius around the user, this is a multi hit move each hit doing 2 heart per hit and hitting 5 times, with Hamon this move does 3.5 damage
Attack 4 - Hamon's Beat: This is grab move which will stop the user as soon as it's used, if the target is in the block in front of the user and the user uses the move the user will grab the enemy, spiking them if they don't have Hamon and then dealing an uppercut launching the enemy 3 blocks in the air and playing that sweet sweet noise which will be linked below, without Hamon this deals 5 hearts of damage and with Hamon does 6, the enemy cannot do anything when grabbed, but the move is somewhat quick

-Ability List in the thread-

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Ability 1 - Vine Grab: The user uses the vines of Hermit Purple to grab an enemy 4 blocks away, when grabbed the enemy cannot use thir stand and will be slowed down until the user of HP either lets go or pulls the user towards them, when an enemy is grabbed the user can pull the enemy towards them or if they have Hamon, conduct 5 bursts of Hamon each doing 0.5 hearts of damage

Ability 2 - Strategist's Profession: This is a counter move, when used the user will slow down for 2 seconds and the vines of HP will start to glow and if an enemy attacks the user, the hamon vines will grab them and spike them for 4 hearts of damage and be knocked back by an equivalent of knockback 3, with Hamon this move does 6 hearts of damage

Ability 3 - Divination: When an item is held in hand and the ability is used Hermit purple will create a trail of dust pointing in a direction where another of that item can be found including blocks it will also search nearby chests (This is limited as it will only search in a 5 chunck radius for the item in question to prevent servers from dying) but when used on a camera (the recipe is up to you to decide) you can open a list of players and the one selected will be shown on a photo with a background of the biome they are currently in

Ability 4- GRAPPLING HOOK!: This will just be like Hirophant Greens grappling hook ability but purple and viney

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Overall this stand is combat focused, since I took inspiration from a fighting game of course but he can be just as fun without the need to fight people in very odd circumstances also-

frozen rain
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I get that you specifically made it a reference to Heritage for the Future but there are fighting games things that simply dont translate that well

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also, turquoise blue is a hamon technique that they just make a reference ig

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I mention it bc its in the mod as it is

lime sable
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That’s why I said just Turquoise Overdrive and left out the blue, the reason I named it as such is cause, 1. The attack is blue and 2. Cause the move is actually a stand on variation of Strategists Profession and I couldn’t also call it that

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Also the things I decided to translate can be fitting, for example stands grabbing stuff is a thing that is mentioned in the trello as something stando wants to do at some point or the counter which is also something stando already did with Lisa Lisas Hamon path with the scarf move

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And to show that I did already know about the fact that I couldn’t translate all of Oldseph into MC, I must say I was tempted to make an ability that was his custom combo ability which makes Joeseph run quickly straight to the enemy and making all his normals lighting fast but I knew that wouldn’t work well on a 3-D plane where all stands have some counter to things running straight towards em

haughty sable
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This is also ONLY a combat moveset with none of Hermits utility (which is its primary use)

lime sable
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It is combat focused, but it would be a lie to say I didn’t add any of it’s utility moves

lime sable
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In honesty, I have no care one way or the other if the other moves don't make it in but if Hamons Beat doesn't I will riot

night forge
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i think Hermit Purple can have some doxxing abilitys

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i dont know maybe something like, if the user have a map he can choice any player online to mark his actual position in the map, or just add a camera wich will show an image of the player in third player view

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but it could also use the map to show the position of somethings i dont know maybe structures or mobs

lime sable
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At first I would agree 100% with you but I am a little iffy on that cause we don’t really see the extent of what Hermit Purple can do to reveal divine information, like I am sure that could be possible that HP can do that but yeah, also Hermit Purple can’t reveal the exact location of far objects like players, we see that throughout the series

frozen rain
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he quite literally was able to use it on the ground in Kairo to use the sand to draw a precise map of the city to find one random ass specific bucket full of Tar

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but ok

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most of the shenanigans of his ability were always rendered useless because of other stand users

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at first it was DIO, since his ability always gravitated towards it

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then Morioh, trying to find Josuke, he ended up taking a picture of Aqua Necklace

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since stand users attract stand users, his ability ended up gravitating towards them when they are somewhat around his target

lime sable
frozen rain
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he was supposed and kinda did make a divination of a stand user photo in Japan from the USA

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that is really damn far

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but ok

lime sable
frozen rain
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yes, it was affected by the presence of other stand users

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still showed Aqua Necklace

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still from USA to Japan

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and he really did show the stand itself in the photo

lime sable
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It was still off, as you said, he tried Josuke but ended up getting Aqua Necklace

frozen rain
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which once again, it still showed aqua necklace

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it still worked

lime sable
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It worked, on someone else

frozen rain
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but that is due to the inner workings of Fate

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since stand users gravitate between each other

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he wanted to find one stands user but he found another

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and Morioh has a lot of them too

lime sable
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Yes, but again that at least supplements my point, HP is imprecise when it comes to other people, especially stand users

frozen rain
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it simply is a ability that gives him information

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from whatever

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bc of stand users attracting stand users, it messed it up

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since Morioh had at least 9-10 Stand Users already in the same space

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and he still did in fact show a clear as day image of Aqua Necklace

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and prior to that it was always fucked to show DIO

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yet, was still able to make it get a phrase out of the TV

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warning that Kak is a traitor

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which then lead to DIO appearing

lime sable
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Ok, but again it does show that if there are stand users nearby the actual target, you just end up getting a stand user instead of what you want and I also get the Dio thing, that was fate doin it’s thing

frozen rain
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so even under all the exterior influences that make it work not as good, it is still able to provide clear as day indications

lime sable
frozen rain
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because hardly objects should be interfered

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since it has nothing to do with it

lime sable
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Ok, yeah I should have said beings instead of objects as an entirety

frozen rain
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I dont know if in mod you can even differentiate them anyways

lime sable
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Well it shouldn’t be difficult just check if a player has stand or not, it shouldn’t be difficult no?

frozen rain
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I meant object and player

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but fair enough

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idk either

lime sable
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right?

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And items shouldn’t be difficult, we’ve seen that with CD

night forge
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what i mean is if you add Hermit Purple with only attacks moves it can be pretty bad

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what if instead of revealing the location of players in a map, it make a big circle around the selected player?

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and if there are other stands users near the circle can be bigger and less accurated

lime sable
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First off no matter what way you put it HP ain’t gonna be as good as the other stands, second off from my experience having exact knowledge of where everyone is, while useful (and probably profitable), is annoying , even with the strings attached, I like to design these more secondary yet capable stands to be more of an actual fight against other stands

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And when I mean “more secondary”, I mean not as important as stands like SP, HG, SC and so on s on but not as secondary as Pearl Jam or Emperess

night forge
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i feel like HP is not intended to be a stand for combat, but more for usefull things like doxing your enemys

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i mean it can be cool if it get some attacks but the most important of HP should be the doxing ability

lime sable
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Doxing is never fun and again was Swordbyte and I discussed, the doxing works in tandem with fate and is messed up by other stand users so even then it's not great

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You are defintely not wrong in saying HP isn't a combat focused stand but it'd be unfair to make this stand worthless cause it only focuses on one semi-useful ability

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I mean if the guys at Capcom could make this stand useful in a fighting game then why not try translate it to this mod

lime sable
night forge
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okay sorry

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its better say find location then? when i say HP should have an ability based in spiritual photografy i never mean the exact location, at least not for players, what i mean was something like a big circle in a map with the player location inside, in that way you know where to find it but never the exact location

lime sable
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That’s why I suggested the version I did, it gives a good idea of where the person is but not an exact location

night forge
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Yea exactly

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Like when joseph tracked Dio, he find his city but not exactly Dio

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And he was able to track Dio from america when Dio was in the desert, this give us an idea of the Absurd range this ability have

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If it got added i hope the ability dont suck with a limited range to track a player