╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[sand grove]

How can I have a magazine accept 2 different ammo calibers? Do I have to make a new entry? This is for Mags Redux

[slow bolt]

you need to add retooling

[sand grove]

How do I add retooling?

All of this is to just make sniper weapons more effect against mutants. I want to add a hollow point round to a base remington 700, but Im having trouble getting it to work. it was easy when I didnt use mags redux since i could just add it to the ammo category in the gun's config file and it would just work automatically

[thick gyro]

do i have to just export it as OGF and im fine?

[dire oxide]

How does one edit the stats of a weapon? I know how to edit the damage, I am just unsure of where handling, accuracy and the like are

[verbal siren]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/configs/items/weapons/w_(weapon).ltx.html?highlight=Accuracy#parameters-of-the-weapon-itself

[dire oxide]

Thank you!

[misty mulch]

do note that "handling" is an amalgamation of like four or five different values

and my practical advice is "give up completely on doing anything to recoil"

[random fulcrum]

handling as seen in the weapon's stat cards means actually nothing

handling as seen in a weapon's UPGRADE card is the amalgamation of like four or five different values

[misty mulch]

if they're trying to edit the weapon's stats and want to change "its handling", i'm pretty sure they're about to have a fun time wrangling the different dispersion parameters

[random fulcrum]

simply get my handling as ergonomics mod

[dire oxide]

Well that is confusing

[random fulcrum]

i really need to dump my knowledge into the modding book

i feel like i'm the only guy in the anomaly scene that has spent this unhealthy amount of time understanding numbers in weapons

[haughty osprey]

Can someone tell me where I can find the configs for the Knives, more specifically where I can change what % of pelts I can loot with them?

[random fulcrum]

like this shit for example is actually wrong

it's not a multiplier

but i do get why and how someone could reach this conclusion

[random fulcrum]

look inside item_knife.script

[haughty osprey]

not there

[misty mulch]

pelt % on knife type is not in there

[random fulcrum]

maybe ui_mutant_loot.script

in that script is where the monster loot is generated

not just the ui elements

[misty mulch]

funnily enough, also not there

though that's where the hunter kit effect is applied

[random fulcrum]

hmm

i'm at a loss honestly

[misty mulch]

i'm about to go dig through the git commits

[random fulcrum]

maybe item_artefact

or its zz_* variants

grasping at straws really

[haughty osprey]

I | Il
lI | I-

[misty mulch]

found it, G.A.M.M.A. Artefacts Reinvention/gamedata/scripts/zz_item_artefact.script

[random fulcrum]

it isn't in the files i would've guessed it was

oh it was in in item_artefact

daym

third (and a half) time's the charm

[misty mulch]

my trick is "use discord search to search #📢development for a git commit that makes the change to gamma mechanics that i'm looking for"

[haughty osprey]

touché, I'll try to remember that

[misty mulch]

in this case, found this obvious marker, then scrolled down like three or four commits from there

[random fulcrum]

everyone's gangsta until you get to situations like tosox's no log spam being silently added

[misty mulch]

yeah but for actual changes to gamma mechanics it works well enough

[random fulcrum]

ye

[simple scaffold]

yeah that slider's range has no impact on the sats dispaly.

looks like you have some sort of xml problem that places the bars wrong. could be a dxml patch problem.

[misty mulch]

honestly as momo said, the entire gamma 0.9.3 UI change to remove bars in favor of numbers is jank enough that I'm not gonna touch it

[quasi narwhal]

who would've thought that copying the entire ui_inventory.script just to add new stats would cause such a nightmare

[random fulcrum]

more than that it's the fact that it's forcing an entirely new ui structure on everyone

[summer girder]

So you're saying we should beat up ask Igigog to reword some entries

[random fulcrum]

hang him upside down covered in honey from a tree full of nests

[tidal leaf]

hello

[tidal leaf]

does that have to be done from mo2?

or can i do it from the folder

[random fulcrum]

holy this exchange has no right to being this hilarious

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // no, but it'll be easier given that you can search for mods using the mod name search bar

[queen pine]

@tidal leaf Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

[misty mulch]

find or add

![item id of outfit to change]
player_hud_section            = the arms you want it to use

if you have errors i advise you double check the item ID you got, because i've been searching military_merc_outfit with no hits, i don't think that's an actual outfit ID

[tidal leaf]

yikes me too

its the skat 9 mercenary armor

i tried using the debug to find the name of i t

[misty mulch]

cs_heavy_outfit is also not a real id or player_hud_section

[tidal leaf]

bruhh

any idea how i can find the real id

i was one the debug menu in the game

[misty mulch]

i mean debug mode works but which line were you reading from it?

[tidal leaf]

ill ss it

[misty mulch]

oh wait my bad, cs_heavy_outfit IS a valid ID

[tidal leaf]

ok thats good

cant find the other one though

[misty mulch]

ok so is military_merc_outfit, i'm off my game today

one sec.

[misty mulch]

according to the unmodified basegame configs - and i don't think anything in gamma changes this, having just checked:

• cs_heavy_outfit has the following:
  player_hud_section = actor_hud_cs3b
  so the edit you would want to make is

![military_merc_outfit]
player_hud_section            = actor_hud_cs3b

[tidal leaf]

okay thank you

so just to make sure im doing this right i just got to go to here

and make the changes?

[misty mulch]

no, edit the one from G.A.M.M.A. Hands Legs Model Swap

because it overwrites every other version of that file

[tidal leaf]

okay i see what you mean

ssince i dont see it in there im going to add that at the end and save

[misty mulch]

yep

[tidal leaf]

thanks brother i appreaciate your help very much and thanks for your patience!

[desert falcon]

How can i lower damage from all knife. i try edit the m_knife.ltx but no change in the stat whatsoever. what is the problem and file that edit it? thank you

[random fulcrum]

can you screenshot it ingame

[desert falcon]

Damage of the base gamma knife to high for me. i try to edit hit_power, hit_power_2, hit_power_critical_2 in m_knife.ltx with text editor but the stat in game still the same.

[random fulcrum]

what stat

knives don't have stats on their cards

[quartz hill]

probably because the stats are written in the xml

[desert falcon]

ok thank you. you are right. but is that these hit_power, hit_power_2, hit_power_critical_2 edit knife damage?

[quartz hill]

i think so but i havent actually looked at the knife configs lmao

[random fulcrum]

only hit_power is used for knife attacks against stalkers, hit_power_2 is for the altfire but only used for non stalkers

_critical is unused iirc (and i'm very sure of this)

[haughty loom]

i don't know if i should post this here, all of my scopes doesn't work with defult gamma scopes. Anyone can help me?

[desert falcon]

ok thank you @random fulcrum

[random fulcrum]

de nada amiga 🙂

[turbid gyro]

is there a mod that changes actor model to HD or nah?

[plain thicket]

Hey does someone know if it's possible to adjust the horizontal line to be lower? as you can see for this specific texture is too high

[shell grail]

does anyone know where the file that stores the image of Sid on the item "Picture of a love one"?

i just dont love sid

[dim tide]

Hi! Does anyone use Aydins HUD? After the GAMMA update I get crashes with this HUD.

[verbal siren]

Here I guess: https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/tree/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_addons/443- Photo of a Loved One Animated - Apathy_Knight/gamedata/textures/item

[verbal siren]

The Visible body mod from gamma can use the HD model if you have HD models installed. After that just tick the box in MCM.

[turbid gyro]

Thanks m8, i have KVMA HD models is this what i need?

[verbal siren]

I don't know. Just flip the switch in mcm and see if it's done.

[turbid gyro]

Thanks m8!

[rough lion]

If I increase "panic_threshold" in "m_stalker.ltx" will it make NPCs more or less braver?

[vapid raven]

what is dltx

[misty mulch]

#🔨modded-gamma-support this is not a support channel

[misty mulch]

this is not a support channel, ask #🔨modded-gamma-support

[vapid raven]

why people reacting with that

[sacred token]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html

[vapid raven]

nevermind guys

i just realised dltx came with modded exes

[rough lion]

DLTX is the holy grail of stalker modding

its like PTF for Kingdom Come Deliverance

solving many incompatibilities

[misty mulch]

context: #╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

[narrow stirrup]

can someone sugest me the correct configuration for this hud image at the paint.net pls i'm not sure about wich option should i pick

[rough lion]

So I have this weird bug while modding stuff. When I add any attachment on a gun and try to aim down sights the first time, it won't zoom into the 2D scope until I press the "Sight Aim Mode Toggle" key. (guns with permanent scopes work fine)

Issue comes back when I take off and on any attachments, in which I can fix by pressing the "Sight Aim Mode Toggle" key again.

[celest forge]

Yeah it does that sometimes when you're in the debug map, but shouldn't happen in normal gameplay

[rough lion]

Are you sure?

[misty mulch]

for the two whole textures i've exported, i used BC3 DXT5, filter type Kaiser, but I always use Nvidia Texture Tools instead of Paint.NET. The equivalent seems to be "BC3 lineal DXT5"

and no mipmaps for hud textures of course

[narrow stirrup]

Thank u very much

[misty mulch]

my source is https://youtu.be/HwTYYH5zLjo?si=aaV6CunuP5ER0G28&t=1526 just as an fyi

(linked from anomaly modding book page on textures)

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[summer stream]

does the grip on it looks okay-ish, or do i move it slightly?

[tribal aspen]

What does it look like from first person

[summer stream]

it aint the best, but honest work

(i think i should move it

[tribal aspen]

That is way too high in my opinion

Taking up half the screen

[fair canopy]

Literally doesn't matter as it can be adjusted in game

[summer stream]

hud editor

i can move slightly down

like this

good enough

wait i literally adjusted it perfectly

[tribal aspen]

If you rely on adjusting it in game, then you can lose what you're trying to acomplish in the animation, or what you're trying to show

[summer stream]

i don't really rely on adjusting it in-game

mostly i just polish the animations that is already made onto other guns

im not ready to do stuff on maya

[tribal aspen]

You're not making new anims?

[summer stream]

i dont have the right plugins

because the two i need

are fucking 60 dollars

man what the fuck 😭

[tribal aspen]

Blender is free

[summer stream]

ik but it requires some additional stuff

[summer stream]

yea

[tribal aspen]

Anything would

[summer stream]

maya requires like

6-8 plugins

two are paid

[tribal aspen]

Blender requires 1 though?

[summer stream]

as far as i know from people who makes good anims on stalker

[summer stream]

x-ray

BUT if you want to edit the animations

get absolute snap

good thing
literally saved me from insanity

[tribal aspen]

Blender not having functional snap tools should be a crime

[summer stream]

fr tho

[tribal aspen]

It has a lot of things missing that are useful for animation

[summer stream]

but for now this is a good camera position

[tribal aspen]

[summer stream]

now i need uhh.. edit the idle animation

for a note
it's 140 frames

im only at 29 frame

[tribal aspen]

Good luck chief

[summer stream]

there is 12 motions
each require it's own edit

just a question

what do i do on reload

since he is basically holding his hand on the magazine

[lilac idol]

why would you even use maya

[summer stream]

this is literally

the best tool for animating

[tribal aspen]

[summer stream]

blender is around novice/senior level

maya is for..i forgor what's next

[lilac idol]

I don't see the point in spending basically 300 euros per month on an animation tool outside of a professional environment

[tribal aspen]

Also true

[summer stream]

spending 300 euros?

[lilac idol]

per month, yeah

[summer stream]

what do you think, i will spend anything on it?

[lilac idol]

of course not, we absolutely don't do that here

[summer stream]

anyways now question

so here is the reload

the default position of hand is on mag

[celest forge]

That is WACK

Delete the whole thing

[summer stream]

do i

1. make it go off the mag and then reload the mag
2. make it stay on the mag and let him get a grip on the mag release
3. just dont give a singular fuck

[summer stream]

i didnt edit it

shut the fuck up

https://tenor.com/view/trevor-go-fuck-yourself-go-fuck-trevor-philips-new-york-comic-con2013-gif-26446985

[celest forge]

Wouldn't it be easier to just animate this from scratch instead of editing a set that clearly does not fit the gun

[lilac idol]

well depends on where the mag release is and how noticeable it is during the anim

[summer stream]

sir

[lilac idol]

also yeah kinda

[summer stream]

i EDIT animation

and i do not give a singular fuck :3

[celest forge]

It's just that that pose is not natural at all for that mag

You would use your whole palm to grab the bottom part and pull, instead of the tiny bit of the back sticking out

[lilac idol]

I mean I imagine you could kinda grab it with the very last joint of your index/middle finger

[summer stream]

that's why i said
does it look good or not

[tribal aspen]

The mag and release on this rifle is similar to a barret, its a paddle release and the mag is huge, you can just grab the bottom and pull it out

[summer stream]

for god's sake

[summer stream]

so i can just
make him grab the mag and pull it out without holding onto mag release?

if yes, that would be amazing

[tribal aspen]

I think what you have here is a good start tbh

Just needs a bit more love

[summer stream]

also i aint working on stuff from scratch

for now im editing

[lilac idol]

could you add ik bones?

[summer stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/779724385258438659/1053383087842672710/mw2.gif

[celest forge]

Also is that correctly proportioned

[lilac idol]

because then it would be stupidly less painful

[celest forge]

The gun looks MASSIVE

[summer stream]

you know what else is massive?

[celest forge]

The hand looks like a kid's hand on that pistol grip lol

[summer stream]

yes
yes it is

[lilac idol]

nah but fr tho scale that down

[summer stream]

(no)

https://tenor.com/view/trevor-go-fuck-yourself-go-fuck-trevor-philips-new-york-comic-con2013-gif-26446985

[tribal aspen]

You could also try something like this

[summer stream]

i will think of that

oh god what is lunatic doing here

[tribal aspen]

https://youtu.be/xjW9_m_0TXI?t=27

[jade oxide]

[summer stream]

honestly i loved how they made the intervention
yet how dogshit it is without any quickscoping and etc

[tribal aspen]

[summer stream]

yeah call me an old man, i loved 2009 mw2

also scaled down cheytac(looks toy-ish)

[lilac idol]

tbh this pose wouldn't look quite right for anything that isn't a magout, and I think this particular set uses the same poses for both mag in and out

[tribal aspen]

i dont know what the animation theyre using looks like so yeah would depend

[celest forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961738167537512523/1008176301095526450/mw_reload.gif

Sorry I couldn't help myself

[tribal aspen]

honestly would be better to make new anims but I understand the limitations

[summer stream]

l96 reanimation

[tribal aspen]

oh

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/причина-тряски-gif-4837083505841749378

[summer stream]

it's not like i have any other choice

[tribal aspen]

I have become numb to this reaction

[summer stream]

(there is no other good animation for sniper rifles, not considering IWP or BAS(new one))

[woven terrace]

There is tho

[summer stream]

no im not counting this one

[summer stream]

sir

you're showing ur own anims

[celest forge]

I mean he's talking about publicly available

[summer stream]

they're not out yet

[tribal aspen]

bro doesnt even press the mag release

[jade oxide]

stronk hands

[summer stream]

where is our animations

[lilac idol]

https://youtu.be/lQ8x8jXTm2A?si=vkPrt8y0KNqFteGZ yeah then I think that it could work

[woven terrace]

True. Sorry. Soon. You gotta wait a little longer

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hans-landa-gif-13588332054919988806

we waited long enough

release it

[woven terrace]

That is also true

[jade oxide]

it needs a whole day of custom sound design tho

we ain't recycling sounds here

[celest forge]

Truly the fucking goat of Stalker Anomaly gun anims

[summer stream]

i will call one special person who will do it

[jade oxide]

i can do it myself

[summer stream]

and he will do it perfectly

[summer stream]

no

im calling relax

fuck you

[jade oxide]

🤔

[lilac idol]

yours truly

[summer stream]

he is the one who made #1269027917740904532 and etc

plus he also made some stuff for my guns

[celest forge]

Must be nice having someone make half of your guns for you

https://tenor.com/view/there-will-be-blood-gif-26295972

[summer stream]

well i do the models, textures and configs
he does sounds

[celest forge]

That's half

[summer stream]

we do 50/50

it fair

[jade oxide]

you got some mod releases i can check ?

i want to see the guud stuff

[summer stream]

who do you ask

[woven terrace]

We have the same split 😎

[tribal aspen]

now make the anims from scratch

[summer stream]

i no wanna

[tribal aspen]

😔

[celest forge]

It would take less time than what you're doing

But it won't look as good

[fair pollen]

Eh, for Maya it was the Base OverRig scripts, but it's useful for retargeting and stuff, from what I understood.

[tribal aspen]

Probably more fun too lol

[summer stream]

i am not going the same way as yours

[celest forge]

Since no one's first set is good

Certainly not as good as a firebreath set

[summer stream]

tbh editing is more fun for me because im trying to make the animations more fluid

[normal falcon]

is there a mod that brings back the spawn of cut weapons?
i love the upgraded as val and would like to bring it back to my game!

[tribal aspen]

my first 5-10 sets werent good

[fair pollen]

I swear I've seen some mod in #1035807043933720576 that does that.

[summer stream]

im gonna do stuff from scratch only when i get maya

with plugins

that would be slightly easier

[celest forge]

Blender 🔛 🔝

[celest forge]

Except when I have issues with it

Then it is the literal worst piece of dogshit ever coded

[summer stream]

blender has its own issues

[lilac idol]

blender goated until I disable a constraint

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-rage-punch-wall-punching-wall-wall-punch-gif-3307872211697207855

[summer stream]

[normal falcon]

Yes, I was told about this, but I still couldn't find it, so I decided to ask for help here

[fair pollen]

I'd say that if you are doing from scratch then use blender, if you want to retarget some stuff get that plugin, and check the vids about it.

[summer stream]

Я буду делать оба.

[celest forge]

This is an edited AK47 set

[tribal aspen]

how??

[summer stream]

ah i see

[celest forge]

/j

[summer stream]

this is our new ak 1900

[celest forge]

AK 1874

[summer stream]

on brand new caliber called
.30-06 springfield

[tribal aspen]

[summer stream]

also where is our new deagle

||/jk||

[tribal aspen]

who me?

[lilac idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187882345278226503/1355288030004645928/anglerbubble.gif

[normal falcon]

кстати, видел твой ответ, ты както писал что можно очень просто вернуть прописав оружие в "лодик". Не подскажешь подробнее?

[summer stream]

[celest forge]

What's wrong with the set that GAMMA uses

Despite being a little

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961738167537512523/1008176301095526450/mw_reload.gif

[tribal aspen]

lol

I dont think ive seen the set GAMMA uses atm

[summer stream]

Так..

1. Ищем в дебаге ID пушки.
2. Делаем путь gamedata\configs\items\settings\npc_loadouts в новом моде.
3. Создаём файл mod_npc_loadouts_(сюда своё название)
4. Дальше по картинке вписываем пушки.
5. Включаем мод по галочке и проверяем через убийство неписей.

[lilac idol]

btw this pose doesn't look quite right to me, I think you could improve it by rotating the wrist downwards and tensing up the thumb

[summer stream]

make it look like he is applying PRESSURE on it

not just pushing it down like a toy

[celest forge]

Like you tense up around the hoes?

[lilac idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/485621413231853569/1123095287750201396/unknown-3-1.gif

[summer stream]

no.

[normal falcon]

ВАУ! Огромное спасибо)

[lilac idol]

either gunslinger or shinyhaxorous

[tribal aspen]

oh i know shiny

[celest forge]

Shiny's

[tribal aspen]

dont think ive seen his deagle set tho

[summer stream]

anyways ill just keep waiting until someone will make proper animations
for now im editing

[tribal aspen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnwZVdMkY4U

these?

[lilac idol]

if that's what gamma's using then yeah

[summer stream]

those are pretty good
but still gives out the shaky vibe

[celest forge]

That's the set yeah

[tribal aspen]

bit jittery yeah

[summer stream]

also i think yeah it uses that thing now

[tribal aspen]

good though

[summer stream]

yet it had

some of its own bugs

(because someone didnt implement 3dss right)

[celest forge]

Like so, my dearest onda vital?

[summer stream]

there was also the unholstering problem

[lilac idol]

yeah it's shiny's after all, he makes pretty good stuff

[summer stream]

looks more realistic

[lilac idol]

nah, you gotta change the pose more

[summer stream]

oh and also

ow

[lilac idol]

thumb is too linear

[celest forge]

vanilla hands moment

[random fulcrum]

the sharps has to be half cocked for it to be opened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilac idol]

for the first pose tho, the rest is alright

[random fulcrum]

mr electric saw off his left foot

[celest forge]

How are you more of a gun nut retard than I am

[summer stream]

autism :

[random fulcrum]

it's like the literal only gun gimmick i know about

[celest forge]

Guys I fixed the animation!

[summer stream]

dang

[random fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961738167537512523/1008176301095526450/mw_reload.gif

[summer stream]

that shit turned into cod anim

[lilac idol]

yeah send this guy to bolivia

[celest forge]

I'm not far

Better than the old anim

[warped palm]

Hi all! I'm trying to fix the MP412 Rex freezoom when you have a 1x optic attached. Does anyone know how? I've tried setting 'scope_status = 0' for the 1x optics, but that makes them disappear from the gun (strangely, the rail is left behind.) I've also tried adding the proper sections to the original LTX from Pretty Pistols Pack and removing them from the 3DSS LTX, but this either results in the 1x optics no longer being compatible with the gun or having them disappear again, leaving the rail behind

Nevermind, I just figured out why it doesn't work. There are no meshes w/ optic for the MP-412 under meshes/dynamics/weapons/wpn_mp412

[celest forge]

@random fulcrum are there any none script ways to make a gun deal more damage on headshots?

[random fulcrum]

no

[jade oxide]

lower head resistance or dmg multiplier on head for every npc

[random fulcrum]

although script based is like 5 lines long

[celest forge]

For someone that can script, i'm sure

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958342885005221898/1195534644079251486/trevor.gif

[random fulcrum]

nah brother like literally 5 lines long

making it longer would be for idiots that can script and are dumb enough to prove a point

[celest forge]

I literally know 0% about scripting in general

I can barely tell functions apart when I have to edit one for whatever reason

[drifting moat]

Time to pick up a new skill

It's not that hard especially if you just want small stuff and especially lua

[verbal siren]

Do you know why sometimes when I spawn a group of NPCs in debug mode, they kill each other and me? I'm a default loner and spawned a group of Clear Sky, they started shooting at each other and the last one turned on me. Just curious. When I was testing earlier, teams of Monolithians would also kill each other.

[drifting moat]

Weird. I had no such problem when I spawned squads

Even when I spawned a bunch of loner squada to dark valley bandit base. Ther wasn't infighting

[verbal siren]

I'm using the Combat AI Redone mod, maybe that's messing them up. Gotta see what happens when it's off.

[fair inlet]

on fake_start?

[verbal siren]

Yep

[fair inlet]

well it's unique to that level
idk if intended or relations aren't setup until you leave it

[undone spruce]

why is this game so fussy with world ogf models

yet im getting better at this

[random fulcrum]

brother imagine if it was more permissive

when you have insane shit like the bas world models

like 30k tris for a small ass model

[fair canopy]

[undone spruce]

13k tris handguns

[celest forge]

Thats not horrible

[undone spruce]

its not, the problem isnt tri size

its always some bs that makes the game crash, mostly exporting errors

i just copy a armature from a similar weapon, mate with the gun mesh and edit the armature a bit

if i try to create the armature from scratch, it throws down errors, ill check later if its just blender illiteracy from my part

[fair canopy]

You aren't setting up the world model correctly. Simple as.

[novel ruin]

Uh fun fact: i dont know how to deal damage to npc, and how to get the npc that being shot. Xray just need a lot of digging sometimes

[jade oxide]

xray has its own set of suffering things for each type of modding

hopefully now, regarding sounds, I pretty much got all tools I've been needing and now it's just a walk in the park 🤤

I have to try your v4 btw @novel ruin . You worked on it very fast I didn't expect so little time between v3 & v4

[shell grail]

Is there a mod that shows the Lucifer condition on the HUD?

[lilac idol]

if you have problems with world models make sure to set up the armature correctly and allat

also world models from 30k and up is death

[sand grove]

Can someone give me a brief explanation on how to add retooling in mags redux? Specifically how to change what retooling group an already existing magazine belongs to? If it's even possible

I just want to add a 357 ammo retool option for a standard Remington 700 magazine to clarify

[lilac idol]

create a new mag and base type config for that 357 mag, then add a retool group to that mag and make sure that the name for the group is unique
then using dltx add a retool group to the rem700 mags

[barren crown]

what is this error about, i've followed frosty's suppressor mesh tutorial step by step

[lilac idol]

you're either missing an armature deform modifier or didn't assign the vertex groups

[barren crown]

i assigned 6 times

[lilac idol]

or it isn't parented to the armature

[barren crown]

and i parented to the armature

and deformed to the armature

[lilac idol]

you're probably missing vertices

[barren crown]

do i need to select all vertices

[lilac idol]

yeah of course

if even 1 vertex isn't assigned to a group it won't export

[barren crown]

auhhh

how do i select all

ctrl a?

[lilac idol]

a alone I think

or a plus something

[barren crown]

im filled with rage

still doesnt work

[lilac idol]

you're still missing vertices somewhere

[barren crown]

i pressed a

selected all

[lilac idol]

then it's another mesh

I'm also guessing that you actually assigned those to the group

[barren crown]

selected the entire thing

[barren crown]

yup

i spammed assign like frosty

(with the armature deformed to the gun)

[lilac idol]

then enter edit mode and manually select and hide all the vertex groups

[barren crown]

its tedious isnt it

[lilac idol]

then you'll find the missing vertex

[barren crown]

how do i hide all vertex

[lilac idol]

you can't

you select them one by one

and then hide them

[barren crown]

how do i hide them

[lilac idol]

h

alt h to unhide

[barren crown]

i selected all of them

it still

it still gives an error

[lilac idol]

have you checked that the bone matches the name of the vertex group

[barren crown]

yeah

i renamed it too

wpn_benelli_m4_hud 04.ogf to wpn_mossberg590a1_hud 06.ogf

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hans-landa-gif-13588332054919988806

[lilac idol]

you don't have to rename the mesh

that's done automatically

I'm talking about the vertex group

[barren crown]

it doesnt

what

[sand grove]

Got one more question. How easy is it to edit the damage and armor penetration of ammo? I already know how to edit weapon damage and change the ammo they use

[barren crown]

its easy (i think) if you use Artiballistics or Artigrok as a base

you can edit the stats from there

anyway how the hell do i add the suppressor to the 590

[sand grove]

Does gamma by default have that?

[barren crown]

i dont think it does

only GBOOBS

(grok's ballistic overhaul)

[sand grove]

I guess it would just be something along the lines of "go into gboobs and edit the values in there" right?

Or at least that would be the first place to look

[barren crown]

maybe idk

go into the configs or scripts

[sand grove]

Got it. Thanks for your help TOAST ❤️

[misty mulch]

nope

[misty mulch]

ammo info is NOT altered by grok's ballistics scripts, simply dltx the ammo sections as you would for guns (e: ok technically it multiplies k_ap by 10 in the script and therefore all k_ap values need to be divided by 10 in configs, but, i don't think that's what you meant)

[misty mulch]

the two parameters of interest are k_hit (damage multiplier) and k_ap (armor pen), note that GBO multiplies k_ap by 10 as part of its calculations

[barren crown]

guess i was horribly wrong

[misty mulch]

so e.g. a bullet with k_ap = 0.001 is the same as vanilla anomaly k_ap = 0.01

[sand grove]

So I need to use dltx to open the ammo sections. Is that in the bade anomaly folder or gamma's folder?

[misty mulch]

check my dltx guide, second pin in this channel

fyi gamma, by default, comes with only one DLTX that alters ammos, mod_system_gamma_ammo_balance.ltx so your dltx file has to load after it, just make sure whatever you name your file starts with a letter that comes after G in the alphabet

[sand grove]

And this is the same dltx I should use as a base? Or do I just make edits and those will override the main file

[misty mulch]

"DLTX" is a method

i used it as shorthand for "a file that uses DLTX to make edits to configs"

it is best practice to make your own mod folder with your own DLTX file, to make your own edits. that way if you ever need to update GAMMA, your changes won't get undone, and it's easier for you to find your changes to the modpack

[sand grove]

Alright then, I'll read your guide and see what I can do

[misty mulch]

if you get stuck, upload what you've got here and i can help

[sand grove]

Yeah that's smart, I used to do that when I made mods for other games

Xray is just more complicated

[misty mulch]

ehhhhhhh

depends on what you're comparing it against

i actually think it's way easier to start since you can do so much purely through config edits, which requires 0 additional tools beyond Notepad

[sand grove]

That makes me feel a little better actually

I'm not trying to do anything crazy

Just to make the basic versions of the sniper ammo more suited for mutant killing

So I don't think it should be TOO difficult

[misty mulch]

oh

uh

that. that is complicated.

[sand grove]

[misty mulch]

VERY complicated. that actually requires direct modification of the GBO script.

and also understanding its (again, very complicated) mutant damage function

[sand grove]

Even if I just edit the ap and damage of the ammo type?

[misty mulch]

yes

[lilac idol]

couldn't he just boost the k_hit and lower k_ap

[misty mulch]

no point in lowering k_ap

[sand grove]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

Make it have lower ap and higher tissue damage

[misty mulch]

i mean doing this makes it OP against everything, also, there is no such thing as "tissue damage"

[lilac idol]

I mean yeah, but given that he wants it to make more damage lowering ap would make sense

[misty mulch]

lowering AP makes it categorically shittier against all humans

[sand grove]

Right

[misty mulch]

that's why .338 Federal is so shit for humans fyi

[sand grove]

Like 357

[barren crown]

at this point just use artigrok bro

[misty mulch]

basically nonexistant AP and a k_hit of 10.7

[barren crown]

artigrok adds extra ammo

[misty mulch]

so is it your goal to make all sniper ammos worse against armored stalkers and better against nonarmored targets?

[sand grove]

Just the basic variant

The ap round will still be for stalkers

[lilac idol]

I mean it depends on whether he wants more damage in general or a specific damage multiplier for mutants while keeping the same damage for humans right

[sand grove]

For example, basic 7.62 51 will be for mutants, and the higher tiers will be for stalkers

[misty mulch]

yeah that still involves editing gbo script because "non-HP rounds" (determined by a hardcoded table) do 0.85 dmg against all mutants

[lilac idol]

last one would be more complicated

[lilac idol]

what defines that?

[misty mulch]

handwritten local table in the top of gbo script

[lilac idol]

so modded ammo types aren't affected?

[misty mulch]

nope

[sand grove]

Is it compatible with mags redux?

[barren crown]

yeah

[misty mulch]

this is why i keep saying that gbo is overcomplicated

[barren crown]

(atleast i hope)

[lilac idol]

what's even the point of that lmao

[misty mulch]

and it's overcomplicated On Purpose b/c grok wants nothing to change his implementation of ballistics dmg

although he definitely forgot that he wrote in per-ammo and per-mutant-type damage multipliers because he forgot to use this system when he wanted to design a mutant killer sniper round

[sand grove]

I just hate that snipers are complete ass against mutants

That's my only gripe

[barren crown]

me when a hunting rifle doesnt do anything unless i chamber it in expensive ammo

[sand grove]

Even the expensive ammo doesn't do anything

Shooting a dog with a round from a Mosin should just kill it outright

But it doesnt

[lilac idol]

so of there's a table with all the ammo types affected by this there must be a way to remove them from said table?

[barren crown]

anyways, i tried with another salvo12 mesh (from BaS, the KS-12 ISG suppressor) and it spat out the same error

[lilac idol]

I haven't looked at the script nor I want to, I'm just curious

[misty mulch]

here is how you would have to do it:

• add the specific ammo type to the hp_rounds table in grok_bo.script, with some... appropriately high value (e: actually i double checked and these numbers come from nowhere, so invent a number ig)
• add another if statement to give it ammo_mult = 1.00, the mutant dmg multiplier, lines 308 - 350
• (optional) add another if statement for the pseudogiant specific damage multiplier, lines 381 - 408
  for every ammo type

[misty mulch]

removing it from the table would cause unintended damage behaviour when shooting stalkers with that ammo, and adding it to the table is insufficient to fully implement all ammo based mutant damage changes, as you can see from my message above

specifically the inclusion in that table is what penalizes hp rounds damage on a nonpenetrating shot against human enemies

because all hp ammos have higher k_hit than their AP counterparts

needless to say this is in Lua

[quartz hill]

how would i go about making a recipe unaffected by "artificer eagerness" (less components to craft)?

[celest forge]

So added ammo types are just inherently stronger due to not being touched by GBO?

[random fulcrum]

yeah

but also no

if you were to add a new hollow point like bullet it'd be stronger against stalkers but weaker against mutants

[celest forge]

Crazy

[random fulcrum]

crazy indeed

gbo is just really fucking bad

and the worst part is that it's by design

as veer outlined above

just ego and pretentiousness

[celest forge]

So much for "modular experience that you can tweak to your liking and expand on"

[barren crown]

artigrok has a bug where if you install it without GBO hollow points would pen 245 (unlimited armor)

which can pen an exo reliably

[hard harbor]

What file do i need to edit to make exoskeletons and nosorogs have lower recoil on weapons

[random fulcrum]

none because it's not a thing

implement it from the ground up

[hard harbor]

Kms

[misty mulch]

inherently "doesn't fit in with GBO" more like

[misty mulch]

i mean, the strong version of this is never true, it is and has always been "Grok's Automated some parts are more Modular than others and compared to other kitchen sink mods, it's technically more modular, but there's bits you can't touch Modpack for Anomaly"

the least modular parts are the economy redesign, artefact crafting, ballistics system, and now the UI

[celest forge]

"This car is modular because you can take off the wheels" ahh modularity

[misty mulch]

frankly i think the original mistake was to call it modular but i'm not making the modpack so

[celest forge]

GAMA doesnt look as cool tho

[random fulcrum]

could've been modpack manager

because it's obtained through a custom wabbajack like script

[barren crown]

we had badm

[lilac idol]

modularn't

[sand grove]

You think I should just install Artigrok instead?

[random fulcrum]

artigrok is still just gbo

but with gimmick (unrealistic) ammo

but still just gbo

[sand grove]

But I can edit the values directly tho

That's the whole point

[random fulcrum]

you also can do that with regular gbo

dunno what's the difference

gameplay would be mostly the same

[misty mulch]

what do you mean when you say "edit the values directly"

[sand grove]

A config file is what I mean

Like a json

[random fulcrum]

i.e. you're still playing around gearscore checks that determine wether a guy explodes or not

[misty mulch]

because the stumbling block here is that you cannot cleanly only apply increased damage to mutants purely through config edits

[random fulcrum]

brother that is how everything works

[misty mulch]

which is what you said you wanted to do, increase damage done to mutants by certain sniper rounds

[barren crown]

artigrok adds some unique ammo's and unobtainable ammos (because they're under "old ammo's)

.45 AP and .357 AP

and then some "chaos" rounds

[sand grove]

Oh, I see

[misty mulch]

that does not fix his "make some sniper ammos do more damage to mutants" problem

[barren crown]

yeah

im telling him what artigrok adds

[misty mulch]

yeah so artigrok will not fix the thing that he actually wants help with

you could crank up all damage dealt by those rounds easily, or all armor pen, it's the part where you only want to increase damage to a specific enemy type that makes this tricky

[sand grove]

Guess I'm doing it your way then

[misty mulch]

there's not a mod out there that would let you target a specific enemy type purely through config edits. it has to go through a script.

[sand grove]

I didn't think so, I've already looked. So I'll have to actually change the specific ammo

I'm at work, I'll take a crack at it when I get home

I'll use the dltx guide and the highlighted comment for guidance

[misty mulch]

dltx is not useful here

[misty mulch]

you would have to follow this message, you are directly editing a lua script

not a config file

[sand grove]

Oh

Thanks for the clarification

[random fulcrum]

the thing (the mod), a mod i made eons ago that started out as gbo/adb but unfucked but ended up being hardcore spaghetti due to feature creep, has this

[cyan trench]

how do I make an armor NOT have a helmet installed, I want a seperate one.

[rough lion]

You could edit or remove the "outfit_restrictions" line next to the outfit's filename so it lets you equip a separate helmet

[cyan trench]

you're awesome man thank you.

[rough lion]

Here's a reference of what those lines do

[cyan trench]

gotcha

[sand grove]

Having some trouble finding the gro_bo.script

Is it in the GBOOBs mod file?

Or in a seperate directory?

[random fulcrum]

in the mo2 window

right hand side of the ui

there's a folder view

that's your virtual folder that respects mod priorities

search grok_bo.script in the little filter bar

that'll show you the file with that name that is actually being loaded into the game

instead of fishing through the entire modlist trying to find which one has priority over the rest

[urban oxide]

How would one go about reverting the increased lurker spawns that was added to Gamma a month or more ago? When paired with redone there are like 20+ lurkers in truck cemetery for me on every run I do

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // What momopate said, but with a picture

[queen pine]

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[sand grove]

Got it, now Im gonna start messing with it

This is one of the only parts of gamma that I do not like

A marksman level catridge should be excellent at killing animals

[random fulcrum]

hey i said the same thing

[sand grove]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[misty mulch]

look at this diff and then do the opposite of what it did? https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/compare/f2450fa53385...15bab8b25864

[sinful magnet]

can someone point me to a tutorial on how to add/mod guns into anomaly/gamma?

[slow bolt]

how to install a mod or how to make a gun mod?

[rough lion]

How do I make important NPCs like Strelok as my companions not panic at all?

[sand grove]

@misty mulch

Does this look correct? I havent edited the values yet but wanted to make sure its formatted right

[sinful magnet]

making a gun mod

[misty mulch]

yeah looks fine. the way to check it is to temporarily disable the Tosox Mini Mods pack or w/e it's called in gamma, and go shoot your modded ammo at a mutant. Every shot that connects generates a hit report in the log, you can just read it and see

you can either read the log with ~ (pgup/pgdown to scroll) or quit the game and read the log in Anomaly/appdata/logs/xray_yourname.log

[random fulcrum]

fine sir the hp_rounds table stores the DIVISOR for damage against stalker mobs when you don't pen their armor, NOT their multiplier against mutants

[sand grove]

Damage seems kinda low

So I assume I need to change the multiplier right?

It took like 5 shots to kill one pseudo dog

Do I need to make a similar entry for all the rows below it too? Are they mutant specific or is there one section for all mutants

Nevermind, there is a definte increase in damage

Thanks for your help FELLAS

Why isnt this already changed by default is what Im wondering

Why make marksman rifles so bad against mutants

[random fulcrum]

because you can't pander to the realismo crowd while mantaining good balance and good variety

if you make sniper rounds super effective against monsters then hollow points completely lose their point to exist

but you can't have sniper rounds do nothing to a mangy dog in a "realistic" (or said to be by its creator) ballistics setting

see the paradox

[slow bolt]

As they should

[random fulcrum]

case in point

[slow bolt]

hate HP in gamma

[random fulcrum]

case in point

[slow bolt]

it also creates the worst metas

[sand grove]

Its unrealistic to make sniper rounds uneffective to a target group that "realistically" gets bodied by rounds of this caliber

I dunno

Realism does not equate to fun for me

[slow bolt]

Its needed to make people use snipers less

[sand grove]

Never

Ill always use snipers

[slow bolt]

Meta loadout is a sniper, Smg with hp and an AR

3 fucking primary weapons

[sand grove]

I like using a pistol, sniper and ar

But sometimes I use 3 shotguns just because

[sinful magnet]

whats wrong with that though? i thought its about playing how you want

in call of duty almost every warzone loadout is 2 primary. they serve different purposes

same with games like dayz

[celest forge]

@normal relic Do you have gamma installed rn

[normal relic]

right now ? no im not at my house

[celest forge]

[normal relic]

what did you need ?

[celest forge]

G.A.M.M.A. Arti Recipes Overhaul files

[normal relic]

fuk

[celest forge]

@fair canopy trying to get 3DSS workin and it doesn't

I'm gonna kms

Why are there two lens meshes without textures

[random fulcrum]

pa que los weones pregunten waaaaajajajjajjajajajjjjajajajjaaagria

[celest forge]

Ese parcero qué

Got it to work except the reticles are not showing up

[fair canopy]

Are you using the one for gamma or the one for vanilla?

[misty mulch]

https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/tree/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_addons/G.A.M.M.A. Arti Recipes Overhaul/gamedata all the mods in gamma that start with G.A.M.M.A. are generally on Github

but inside that main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_addons folder

[celest forge]

Thx

[celest forge]

Vanilla, using the GAMMA one crashes my game on launch

It works, i think, but the reticles are not showing

[azure bluff]

sooo, uhh, is there a version of x-ray with increased object limit? If not are there any hard to solve issues before the code can be changed to support like 24 or 32bit identifier?

Im in an late game run that has 63k identifiers taken up and i'm starting to think it'd take less time to try and increase object limit than start up a new run and reach the same point but with better object id economy

[misty mulch]

nope

hilarious that your solution is "edit the engine" and not "hoard less stuff" or "spawn fewer items on npcs" or "have fewer npcs" though

[azure bluff]

greed is incurable.

[slow bolt]

its easy to do

but it breaks a lot of stuff

[azure bluff]

please, tell me more

[slow bolt]

and hitting 65k limit is not going to happen unless you are a horrible hoarder

[random fulcrum]

last time changing int types was attempted it broke savegames

which is funny in your context

so the literal only solution is managing inventory

[slow bolt]

right

i forgot what broke

[random fulcrum]

item count

and weights

and other stuff

[azure bluff]

crap, so it's death by thousand cuts. Even if increased the limit seems easy enough it cascades to other stuff in unexpected ways. ehhh

[slow bolt]

easy for a dev

you need to edit the engine and recompile it

[azure bluff]

yeaa i can into c++ i think, i haven't worked in c++ in nearly a decade but i think i'd manage.

i'll try to manage inventory first. If can't significantly reduce the object count i'll try to kamikaze edit the engine and see what happens to my savegames.

[slow bolt]

bruh just gift shit you dont need

dont be a hoarder

[azure bluff]

but ... i need everything!

[viscid kayak]

I'm making a mod that uses the bonus_items in set_random_stash to add some extra items, and it works fine except for some encrypted document missions, where looting them doesn't register the stash as being looted and you get an infinitely respawning stash

local base_set_random_stash = treasure_manager.set_random_stash
function treasure_manager.set_random_stash(no_spot, hint, bonus_items, id, dbg)
    if bonus_items == nil then
        bonus_items = {}
    end

    base_set_random_stash(no_spot, hint, bonus_items, id, dbg)
end

this code alone causes that issue, and I honestly have no idea what could be causing it, anyone done something similiar before?

EDIT FOR SEARCH: set_random_stash returns an id, don't forget to return that

[rough lion]

Is there someone skilled enough who can patch this for the latest modded exes? #1328929005809827890 message

[wet ridge]

I want to learn how to mod or use engines

Dose anyone have tips

[celest forge]

Do you know how to code in C++

[wet ridge]

No

I've never done any coding ever and I'm lokwey 15

But i have a vision

[celest forge]

Well, if you want to make engine mods, you need to learn how to code in C++

So that would be the first step

[wet ridge]

What would be the next step

Also is gdot a good start

[celest forge]

This channel is kinda dedicated to STALKER modding only, not making new games on other game engines

[wet ridge]

Oh

Well I'll be back here when I become a buddies monk that knows c++

Also how hard is it to use stalkers engine?

Or should I mod stalker 2 first

[fierce kayak]

Just worry about learning some c++ before you jump the gun,
You'll be using the same language either way

[wet ridge]

Mkay

I'll be back here when I learn c++

[wet ridge]

@celest forge i like yur slipknot referance in ur bio btw

i just saw that

[cerulean plume]

How can I make the PDA continue to play music when I switch a map? I have to go into PDA every time I cross over and re-select my playlist.

[agile geyser]

Hey, I want to remove headlamps from traders and the starting loadout. Which file should I look for?

[undone spruce]

which is the best way to generate bump maps from pbr roughness maps from substance painter textures?

simply converting roughness to gloss makes everything too shiny and LUN4T1C's method tho better doesnt appear right to me

i think ill just throw gloss luminosity to 50% or smth

[slow bolt]

When you change levels the entire game essentially resets, saving and loading data

so it would somehow need to store time the music played for and start from that

[cerulean plume]

Of course

[celest forge]

Personally i just use the roughness map

Because using metallic/gloss maps makes some parts of the gun, the ones that the metallic/gloss say are "dull" just go void of detail

This for example is just roughness and then normal map to bump map conversion

[random fulcrum]

juan this shit is of utmost importance

is the hit_power for the sharps 1.49

@celest forge

it has to be 1.49

[celest forge]

Why

[random fulcrum]

it's a reference

[celest forge]

To what

Hunt?

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ur-a-poopy-head-sus-reee-cinnemasacre-gif-21898673

[drifting moat]

How do I get the icon of an item?. The one that's used in the inventory grid

I want to display it on a custom UI

[verbal siren]

Icon file and coordinates are in the item's config. The main one or dltx-ed one.

[celest forge]

Determined by coords in the item's LTX file

icons_texture = ui\sw19j_icon
inv_grid_width = 2
inv_grid_height = 1
inv_grid_x = 0
inv_grid_y = 0

For example

[drifting moat]

But I need to dynamically do it for any item

[drifting moat]

Found it.

function get_icons_texture(section)
    return section and ini_sys:r_string_ex(section,"icons_texture") or "ui\\ui_icon_equipment"
end

Damn the thing I wanted worked first time. This modding shit is easy

[celest forge]

We're getting a new SAM update this quarter, gobbles

[drifting moat]

Idc. I want V2 to also have OPO and WPO compatibility patches.
Apart from that the only thing I need to fix is the fact that batch repairing with a repair item that has a condition (like multitool) insta crashes your game

[regal bolt]

There is topic only for creating new mods or for other questions, related with it?

l have a question with new questlines, but l dont know where l can ask it

[verbal siren]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649 most ppl are there

[vapid raven]

reasonably awesome

[drifting moat]

@quasi narwhal So it's caused by autoformat?

[quasi narwhal]

yeah for sure

[drifting moat]

That makes sense actually

[quasi narwhal]

it's autoformatting on file save

[drifting moat]

But I think I turned it off

[barren crown]

how would i make a custom suppressor for a weapon?

[quasi narwhal]

it's nice having it tbh

[barren crown]

i think you're in the wrong chat

[drifting moat]

I didn't like the way it wanted me to format table definitions etc. And I was lazy to configure ti

[quasi narwhal]

in the example you sent, if you add a new line break as in like

local table = {
  -- save here
}

[drifting moat]

This is how I like

local table =
{
  hehe = "hehe"
}

[quasi narwhal]

you can change that, if you're using Stylua for example, you can create a stylua.toml in the project root

I'm just not sure the name of this exact config

[drifting moat]

No extensions for formatting

{
    "files.associations": {
        "*.script": "lua",
        "*.ps": "hlsl",
        "*.cs": "hlsl",
        "*.gs": "hlsl",
        "*.vs": "hlsl",
        "*.s": "lua",
        "*.level": "ini",
        "*.ltx": "ltx",
        "*.seq": "ini",
        "*.part": "ini",
        "*.part1": "ini"
    },
    "workbench.sideBar.location": "right",
    "git.autofetch": true,
    "security.workspace.trust.untrustedFiles": "open",
    "editor.minimap.enabled": false,
    "workbench.editor.pinnedTabsOnSeparateRow": true,
    "workbench.editor.languageDetection": true,
    "Lua.diagnostics.disable": ["lowercase-global"],
    "Lua.hint.enable": true,
    "Lua.hover.enable": true,
    "Lua.runtime.plugin": "C:/AnomalyDefinitions/plugin.lua",
    "Lua.runtime.version": "Lua 5.1",
    "Lua.workspace.ignoreSubmodules": false,
    "Lua.workspace.library": 
    [
      "C:/AnomalyDefinitions/library",
      "C:/Anomaly/tools/_unpacked/scripts"
    ],
    "diffEditor.ignoreTrimWhitespace": false,
}

[quasi narwhal]

hmmmm do you have a [lua] entry in your settings.json?

[drifting moat]

Above is my whole settings.json

[quasi narwhal]

the fuk, why is it auto formatting on save lmao

i'm sitting on my pc rn, one sec

[drifting moat]

It's not formatting btw. All it does is delete some code sometimes, but it does not do any formatting

[quasi narwhal]

so it's probably autofixing them, hmmm

if you leave an error in a file and try to save, does it automatically try to fix that?

either way, try adding this to your settings.json:

"[lua]": {
  "editor.defaultFormatter": "sumneko.lua",
  "editor.formatOnSave": false,
  "editor.codeActionsOnSave": {
    "source.fixAll": "never"
  },
  "editor.tabSize": 2
},

I use tabSize 2 which is 2 spaces, you might wanna change that to 4 depending on your preference

[drifting moat]

Nope the settings didn't help

Cursed VSCode

[quasi narwhal]

wut lol

cursed for sure wuuut

[drifting moat]

This is so cursed wtf

[quasi narwhal]

bro wtf lmaooooo

I wonder if it's your Copilot or some other extension going crazy

cause it's either that or something in the Lua extension, but I've never seen that before lol

[drifting moat]

I've never used copilot in VS. I don't even have it set up

Definetly an extension.

This started happening after I followed this tutorial: #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message
I removed some stuff like autoformat because reasons mentioned before

I didn't install something correctly probably. Or corrupted something

[quasi narwhal]

well that shouldn't be the case since it's just VSCode extension and settings stuff... shouldn't cause that much trouble

but I can't think of anything else besides that that could cause this

[drifting moat]

I posted this on teams for my colleagues. I might post it on some otger relevant place

[quasi narwhal]

also, did you try removing some non-required ones just to see if it fixes? like the git.autofetch, Lua.runtime.version etc

[quiet elbow]

Anyone know how I could remove the game over text?

[novel ruin]

What the changes to modded exe in GAMMA?

[fossil folio]

How do I remove dialog options from random NPCs? Or what files I need to edit?

[misty mulch]

nothing

gamma does not modify modded exes

you could just drop in the newest ones if you wanted

[celest forge]

@fair canopy Question, does the BaS 3DSS mod from Pizza use the same reticles as you for the 3DSS GAMMA

[fair canopy]

Tbh I'm not sure, but ARC seems to work for both so I think they do

[celest forge]

What's ARC

[fair canopy]

It's a reticle texture mod

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

Did both of you ever heard of STANDARIZATION BUDDY

[fair canopy]

Not my fault. I was doing this before she knew how to edit an ltx

[celest forge]

I guess no, your reticles don't work with vanilla 3DSS

[ionic minnow]

Hi,

was redirected from the base gamma support channel:

quick question. I reinstalled Gamma and Base Anomaly fresh due to some issues. My Base Game is missing the "gamedata\configs\items\outfits\o_[armor name].ltx" files. Anybody know why?

Want to change the visual appearence of an armor but cant without the ltx file.

[slow bolt]

They are packed

so unless the mod changes it - its still in vanilla files

[ionic minnow]

where?

[slow bolt]

its packed in .db files

anomaly/tools

there you can find the unpacker

get it to unpack configs folder by editing the bat file

[ionic minnow]

db_unpacker or db_unpacker_all?

[random fulcrum]

remove the cap at the front of the scope

[celest forge]

Apparently some of the reticle textures have literally no transparency in them

[random fulcrum]

just unpacker as it gives only text files, unpacker_all (as the name implies) gives you everything in the game's files

[ionic minnow]

and how do I repack it?

[random fulcrum]

you don't have to

create a new mod

mo2 folder/mods/your new mod/gamedata/configs/your mod file

and then adjust priorities in mo2

learn dltx

see pins

[celest forge]

Sure enough

That's bizarre

[drifting moat]

How come you're mingling with 3DSS?

[celest forge]

Decided to kill myself tonight

[ionic minnow]

Thank you for the quick help,

@slow bolt you too!

[random fulcrum]

caca is cancelled,,,,,,,

[celest forge]

You whispered pleasantries on my ear with CACA just to leave me at the altar, FUCK you

Btw Momo how does this look

[random fulcrum]

is this the whole screen

or is it cropped

if it's the whole screen then imo it's fine since you can't put the gun any closer without 3dss crumbling apart

[celest forge]

You can

[ionic minnow]

@random fulcrum could you tell me which mod changes the armor visuals? when trying to change the visual of the ltx files it uses a different visual of the one I expected.

[random fulcrum]

no

[random fulcrum]

ooh that is it

[celest forge]

I'm going to make my 3DSS patches like this, to keep some semblance of consistency with what is already on

[celest forge]

But if we ever actually did a modpack or something, I would vote for something like this, because it looks better imo

[verbal siren]

Use the instructions from mod_system_s3ds_scopes.ltx -- you have to set up reticle types for specific scopes. Some have illumination, some don't. Some change their size, others don't. Etc.

[celest forge]

I just copied whatever reticle was on the 3DSS GAMMA Specter scope

[drifting moat]

You wanna make a modpack? What would be the main goal? I mean like would it aim to be hardcore/casual etc

[celest forge]

Oh we just joke around with Momo that we're making a modpack someday named CACA

[fair canopy]

[celest forge]

But I would actually be open to the idea to partner up with some people to make one, obviously handling mostly the gun side

[drifting moat]

I have too much stuff to deal with to make one, but I would love to otherwise.

Or if not a modpack a much bigger scoped mod than what I usually do

[ionic minnow]

Hi,

im trying to make a mod which changes the visual of some skat9 armor. Checked the ingame description of the armor visual I want to have. When updating the military skat with whats described of the target visual it doesnt result as expected. Is there a mod which changes what texture is used on the armor sets?

trying to make the armor look likte the dolg_pantsir_outfit gear

[random fulcrum]

brother that is an icon

anomaly doesn't display true models in the inventory

[celest forge]

You on engine + LUA, Momo also on LUA, me on icons, guns, animations and textures

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-i-am-tere-to-talk-to-you-nick-fury-gif-17148011

[random fulcrum]

i also do engine stuff :((((((((((((

i made the modern crosshair thingamagig that i never actually commited to the git repo because i forgot about it

[celest forge]

Do you have anything on the Monolith x-ray repo

[random fulcrum]

yeah a handful of edits

[celest forge]

Serious added a whole ass weapon class

Serious 1 - Ctm qliao 0

[slow bolt]

what class is that

[random fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/voV0CroCN9w

nah you're right actually i can only read c++ and just about write it but it's a trial and error language for me at this time

[ionic minnow]

I KNOW that its an icon. But if I spawn the item it shows at the bottom what the name is and if I follow its LTX file I should know which ogf file its using no

[random fulcrum]

i haven't put time and effort into actually learning it

[celest forge]

The class where they taught me how to please thy mother

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

(Magazine fed grenade launchers)

[slow bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1346827204717318226.webp?size=48&name=ahahhaa

[random fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/iY37VWXLiIA i also did this (it's a tiny engine edit, 99% of the juice is on lua)

never posted it either

[celest forge]

@random fulcrum can i get a ay dios mio me corro

[random fulcrum]

no because the bolt is silent

fuck your dog ass "mod"

[celest forge]

Ah chupelo entonces

Bobo hpta

[random fulcrum]

re turbina

[celest forge]

No sabe ni hacer iconos esa mierda le quedó todo feo ese malparido HK416

Se cancela CACA gente no me aguanto a este bobo

[random fulcrum]

hey but it at least looks better than most of what people put out

like think rwap icons

[celest forge]

That's not a high bar

[random fulcrum]

true

[celest forge]

Literally only Crepis can make good gun icons

The rest are aids

[faint sable]

teach us and we can all make good icons

smh

[celest forge]

Its truly not rocket science

[summer stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1087100819066867762/1182202932431691787/RDT_20231127_105107355196623381216162.gif

you have aids

[faint sable]

just teach the youth

[summer stream]

fuck no

do it yourself

this aint my problem anymore 🔥

[drifting moat]

CWeaponSSRS Juan's magazine fed grenade launcher needed it.

Other modders could make mag fed GL's too with this engine class, but nobody dared to yet. Except Juan

[drifting moat]

That's abstract

I knew it was from warframe

Time to port fortnite guns juan

A bullpup GL

[fair canopy]

That's a real boi

Too bad a good model for it is 79 freedom flags

[lilac idol]

yeah just take an in-game screenshot

[lilac idol]

what was this bullpup GL MW3 had during the campaign

it was like guided or some shit like that

[drifting moat]

Ah right that's similar to this

[lilac idol]

yeah that

[drifting moat]

This would be sweet as hell in amomawy

[slow bolt]

you'd have to implement airburst

being able to set the distance at which GLs explode

aim at a a wall - press button. Aim above the wall, fire. Explodes right above the wall

[drifting moat]

Doesn't sound too bad to implement, but I have a sneaking suspicion that XRAY would stab me right in the back once I started to do

[random fulcrum]

quite simply just make the "grenade" a bullet without a tracer that spawns an explosion if it travels a set distance

and otherwise it just does nothing

[drifting moat]

Then that thing would just fly straigth + it would break the SSRS class

I would have to remake it then

[unborn marlin]

hello everyone, can you tell me if it is possible to launch the frosty weapons pack on dx9?

it gives the following error

[celest forge]

I don't think so

[random fulcrum]

have the ammo type have extreme air resistance

[steady apex]

The gun that has 4 HP ink catridges

[unborn marlin]

?

[novel ruin]

though I keep getting errors, bugs when drag the newest one into Anomaly folder when updating it for the fist time. If I want to do it I have to reinstall it from scratch.

[strong veldt]

does it work on dx10 and 11. or not at all?

[slow bolt]

!support

[queen pine]

@unborn marlin If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.