╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[random fulcrum]

at some point you get dragged into the whirlpool of iterating on the same thing

the death spiral

of any project

[quasi narwhal]

[teal compass]

[celest forge]

That's why I never sought out to make a pack

Just individual gun mods

[random fulcrum]

same

[quasi narwhal]

i wonder how many times they have reimplemented the weapon parts thing from scratch

[celest forge]

If I started to make a pack instead of just individual mods, I would be 3 years into making a pack that wouldn't have released yet

lmao

[random fulcrum]

truth carpet bombing

[celest forge]

Afaik that's why projects like CWWP have taken so long

[random fulcrum]

watch out ass cancer gang

[teal compass]

so true

[celest forge]

Because everytime they're somewhat near to completion they add something that warrants to almost start over again

[quasi narwhal]

better release a mediocre feature than no feature at all

[random fulcrum]

nah

never

[celest forge]

Nah CWWP will be a gamechanger when it releases

if it releases

[teal compass]

just like tarkov would be great when it reaches 1.0

[quasi narwhal]

mediocre features means free QA

[teal compass]

today:0.16

[random fulcrum]

i honestly think due to the insane networking they have they're just working on a pre release 1.6

that's why it won't come out in the near future

[celest forge]

If that's the case then we can say goodbye to it

[random fulcrum]

like that's just a crack theory still but it makes sense to me

[teal compass]

😭

[celest forge]

Momo let's make a pack together

[random fulcrum]

i unironically would like to

making a shitpack has been in the back of my mind for a long ass time now

[celest forge]

Coalición Armamentística Configurada (para) Anomaly

[covert pivot]

[random fulcrum]

then mod stalker 2

then learn c++

then how are you so sure that you found where the root of all evil lies

sounds like a manufactured problem

[lilac idol]

y'all are retarded as hell, just go to an unpacked anomaly folder, open the ltx "attachment_system_modular_attachable.ltx" and set the line
attachment_system_status to 1

[random fulcrum]

i would fix this if i knew c++
but i won't because there's stalker 2
but i won't mod that because there's no mod tools
but i won't learn c++ because it takes time

[celest forge]

[random fulcrum]

sorry for you

or happy that happened

[quasi narwhal]

then you understand why no one has optimized it yet
also, there are x-ray forks that are optimized

[covert pivot]

why dont you go ask them

[celest forge]

Because it's not easy

Those optimized forks focused just on the optimizing part

[quasi narwhal]

[celest forge]

Anomaly devs would have to focus on the optimization on top of remaking the game

Rewriting the entire engine to be multithread is not a weekend project

[random fulcrum]

it's crazy that the convo went from "add desolation to gamma" to "anomaly is unoptimized as fuck and i could do it better if i wanted to, but i don't want to, but i could if i wanted to"

[celest forge]

There's a reason why it only just happened 10ish years later after the game's launch

Current open x-ray I guess idk

[quasi narwhal]

the latter is crazy though

[celest forge]

I only play anomaly

[lilac idol]

wdym tarkov didn't release 10 years ago

[teal compass]

where was this going😭

[random fulcrum]

okay now would you please add inventory tetris to anomaly

[celest forge]

I've made some

[random fulcrum]

then take your guns and make them desolation compatible

is fucking duke nukem behind the keyboard

lmfaoooooooo

[quasi narwhal]

[random fulcrum]

this guy is unreal

holy shit

[celest forge]

I don't want my guns to be 500mb each

[random fulcrum]

i want my stray

[tribal aspen]

Complains about optimization and wants 4k textures

[random fulcrum]

please give me my stray

[quasi narwhal]

im gonna maybe myself

[teal compass]

don't like them, no judges

[celest forge]

So u rarely do 4k textures and when I do i compress them a lot

[random fulcrum]

please give me a stray i want one too

[quasi narwhal]

you can easily upscale them and make that yourself

[teal compass]

this is so random question

[celest forge]

All of my guns (150ish) are under 3gbs compressed last time i checked

There are mods in moddb that add a single gun that are 1gb+

[somber herald]

your poetry really speaks to me

[celest forge]

Because i dont want to make my mods bloated in size

But i dont think many of my guns look particularly bad right

[quasi narwhal]

tldr homie wants it done for him

[celest forge]

Maybe some of the oldies

[summer stream]

Because its fucking stalker

Making textures like that makes the engine just SUFFER

[lilac idol]

and if stalker makes textures look bad why not just update the engine to make it look good

[summer stream]

because ITS STALKER

[teal compass]

1k is enough for fps

[summer stream]

no one has FACTORY NEW guns in ZONE

[teal compass]

do you know what stalker is man

[quasi narwhal]

u're in the zone homie

[celest forge]

Ah, well, i didnt make the textures myself, just adapted for X-Ray

[summer stream]

you will NEVER find one

[quasi narwhal]

not chicago

[summer stream]

[celest forge]

If i could, i would make all my guns look factory new lol

[summer stream]

you know you can get a gun from artstation for a few bucks(100-150 USD)

[random fulcrum]

i never got my stray 🙁

[summer stream]

with good textures and import them

i want to do that with OMEN

[random fulcrum]

please say the recoil mod sucks

or the stats mod is unnecessary

[summer stream]

what recoil mod

[celest forge]

Another issue is that due to how X-Ray procress their bump maps (only visible when direct light hits the object) if you have a gun that looks "factory new" it will look extremely flat most of the time

[lilac idol]

the recoil mod™️

[summer stream]

Ah that

[celest forge]

Since sunny weathers are extremely rare in Anomaly

[summer stream]

yeah it sucks

[summer stream]

its like one of these knives I did

[random fulcrum]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/enhanced-recoil-gold-edition

[summer stream]

looks like plastic shit

[summer stream]

ah

[celest forge]

Also that

[summer stream]

never tried it

and never will

[celest forge]

Anything that's made to be chrome-like metallic will just flat out look like shit in X-Ray

[summer stream]

No

[summer stream]

straight up facts

[lilac idol]

yeah this definitely sucks ass

[celest forge]

Because X-Ray doesn't have a metallic shader

[summer stream]

also question

and?

[celest forge]

Not a good one, anyways

[summer stream]

we have GBOOBS

not that shit

[celest forge]

There's one that's "metallic" but looks more like high gloss plastic than polished metal

[summer stream]

enhanced recoil makes your game crash anyways

[random fulcrum]

idk how does gamma break that option

[summer stream]

also Juan question

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[random fulcrum]

but the mod doesn't alter the vanilla enhanced recoil option

[celest forge]

Juan answer

[summer stream]

any idea why adding thm file to hands makes them shiny?

[celest forge]

Depends on the settings of your thm

[summer stream]

there is one problem on it

[celest forge]

maybe the thm is set to phonkmetallic

[lilac idol]

probably because of the 2 plugins (actor_effects and grok's recoil) conflicting ig

[summer stream]

they are generated automatically

[quasi narwhal]

isn't phong metal like that or whatever

[summer stream]

its just phong

[random fulcrum]

that's the thing

[quasi narwhal]

it is kinda metallic but just looks glossy

[random fulcrum]

they don't conflict

[celest forge]

Who is auto generating bro's THMs

[random fulcrum]

the entire purpose of gbo's enhanced recoil module is to separate enhanced recoil from actor_effects into its own script

[summer stream]

there is a separated thm thing that lets you automatically generate them

[random fulcrum]

they don't conflict at all because they don't interact

[summer stream]

i was provided by one

[random fulcrum]

someone made a bad actor_effects section

and that's what's crashing the game

[summer stream]

grok

[fair inlet]

some gun mods inherit non existing sections in actor effects

[celest forge]

Hm, it looks like that file might've been a virus. Instead of cooking up trouble, try cooking up a Beet-Pickled Deviled Eggs: https://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-beet-pickled-deviled-eggs-151550

THM editor

Set them up yourself

[random fulcrum]

bruh lmfao

[random fulcrum]

i guessed right

[celest forge]

What the fuck

[summer stream]

i do not need brain damage setting em up

[celest forge]

WHAT

[summer stream]

oh LOL

LMAO

[celest forge]

Why does it say it was a virus

[summer stream]

WHAT THE FUCK

[celest forge]

I downloaded it straight from the AXRToolset github page

Is it another 7-zip funny goof

[summer stream]

maybe you need releases?

[celest forge]

https://github.com/revolucas/AXRToolset

You can get it from here ig

[random fulcrum]

7zip is flagged practically anywhere as a virus

[celest forge]

That was NOT a virus please don't ban my ass

😭

[summer stream]

im gonna ask grok to ban you

[random fulcrum]

ass cancer gang in mortal peril

[summer stream]

anyways i gotta wait for new engine since x-ray makes me go insane

[summer stream]

that fake pbr stuff just makes me rethink everything while i suffer by adding 5 textures each time in SP

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-anime-revolver-reload-bullets-gif-16454630

Avenge me when i'm gone

[celest forge]

Yeah making bumps is a wild thing

[summer stream]

it's BAKING light

[celest forge]

I got it mostly automated via PS actions

[summer stream]

on the texture

[celest forge]

But you still have to tweak levels manually or it will look like shit

[summer stream]

and i use Photoshop to make bumps

manually like everytime

i got a lot of stuff from there

[celest forge]

I've made a couple of guns using tarkov models

Wait lemme show you

[summer stream]

since im working with modern warfare textures

[summer stream]

no need

i just do bumps the easy way

[summer stream]

without breaking normal

just quick question, how do you make bump

[celest forge]

I mean I make them for guns

[summer stream]

that makes sense

[celest forge]

So it's a bit different than making bumps for a hands model I suppose

Since in the gun you realy want that detail contrast

[summer stream]

i steal literally anything

and make too

[lilac idol]

that's some noob ass shit
there's this guy that took the mp7 from tarkov and merged all the UVs into one and also retextured it so it wouldn't look ass

[celest forge]

And all models I use have different texture workflows

Some have full PBR

[summer stream]

i have BO6 stuff

[summer stream]

in x-ray?

[celest forge]

Some have a single specular map with all the other maps mixed into it

[celest forge]

No, like the base set of textures

So turning that into a bump

[summer stream]

ah makes sense

[celest forge]

Can be tricky depending on what the model has

[summer stream]

but I have like a lot of assets

and all of them are mostly PBR

[celest forge]

Any guns?

[summer stream]

500+ gbs

and its modern warfare 2019 + vanguard

interested?

[celest forge]

CoD assets

If there's something I fear more than Tarkov assets

It's CoD

[summer stream]

you fucking will

because they are pain in the ass

burn helped me with them

[lilac idol]

some of the best game assets are sandstorm's

[teal compass]

tarkov when every single screw is a seperate texture

[lilac idol]

people really sleep on them

[celest forge]

Oh I know

[summer stream]

mmm yse

[celest forge]

Yeah but atleast the textures are reasonably sized

[summer stream]

and i stole this stuff
the hands from mw19 and the pistol from BO6

[celest forge]

The models too have relatively low poly counts for modern assets

CoD is like

[summer stream]

honestly the SOUNDS from cod is
unmatched

[celest forge]

4k textures for a bullet

[summer stream]

90k+ polygons

funny thing

[celest forge]

and the mesh for the bullet is 30k poly count

[summer stream]

every texture is under 2k

almost

[summer stream]

also ur not right

i got a gun from there

the bullet was

SO FUCKING LOW POLY

[celest forge]

Just exagerating for comedic effect

Lemme see how big the wages of sin is

[summer stream]

my pistol is like
under 20 mb

[celest forge]

Yeah sure enough

[lilac idol]

that's a skeletonized body, it HAS to be higher poly

[teal compass]

indeed I merged some tarkov guns their texture are not horribly large

[summer stream]

oh hey

thats my hands model

honestly im grateful that i have all of assets on mega

with that there is a ZIP FILE

that is over fucking 600 GBS when unpacked

[celest forge]

But that custom tarkov AK I did for my friend

[covert pivot]

windows folder compression does wonders

[summer stream]

make it 1 mb

[covert pivot]

best i can do

[summer stream]

also the main problem with that cod assets is

a lot of textures are separated

and dont have normals with them

[lilac idol]

make yourself a favour and start porting from other games

[fair canopy]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/insurgency/images/e/e9/IS_QTS-11_Render.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210209091318

what is this ugly ass gun

[summer stream]

man fuck you

[celest forge]

That's a daewoo?

I think?

Maybe not

Also looks like that beretta rifle

[random fulcrum]

port the velociraptor and then fuck off to a better game to rip from

[lilac idol]

I think it's that goofy ass Chinese gun

[summer stream]

what the fuck is a velociraptor

[wispy ferry]

an early bird

[random fulcrum]

the goofy ass integrally suppressed 300 blackout ak they added to tarkov this wipe

[summer stream]

Ah

[random fulcrum]

it looks like a blaster

[summer stream]

nah ask frosty

[lilac idol]

nah but seriously tho find another source for assets

[summer stream]

[summer stream]

can't

im too lazy

and i now i want to just buy the stuff, rather ripping it

[celest forge]

CGTrader modellers my beloved

[summer stream]

time to get a job

[celest forge]

(High quality models under 30-40k with 2-3 2K textures)

[lilac idol]

nah 4k is the way

[summer stream]

no its not

i accidentally did 16k texture

[celest forge]

If its 1 or 2 textures

Yeah 4K is fine

[lilac idol]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[celest forge]

More I start downscalling

[summer stream]

average textures in newer cods

[lilac idol]

16 4k textures make no sense

[fair canopy]

just get a better rig

[summer stream]

just buy one

[fair canopy]

not cod's fault y'all are poor

[summer stream]

true...

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/intruder-lowtiergod-kys-gif-6701652745585782902

[fair canopy]

[celest forge]

My 1070 trying to play S2 on high without FSR and DLSS

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-resident-evil-welcome-to-raccoon-city-resident-evil-movie-burning-on-fire-gif-25613395

[summer stream]

bought the game for under 2k rubles
stole every possible asset
posts it online
doesn't elaborate
disappears

lord the sounds for guns in cod are separated

which is good for the one who makes sounds

[summer stream]

mmm
chicken wings :)

[opal void]

Okay guys

How to re-texture the entire fucking game?

What tools will I need? A hammer and nails?

I have peeked into the land of adventure, and I am here to get all I can get

[teal compass]

qts11, basically chinese xm29

[fair canopy]

the chinese need to learn how to make a gun

because thats not it

[teal compass]

qbz191:

[lilac idol]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-kys-meme-spongebob-spongebob-meme-low-tier-god-gif-25378536

[fair canopy]

well i guess the one good thing about it is that no one can use them outside of their army

[lilac idol]

first step is losing every single drop of sanity

second step is redoing 90% of the UV maps

[opal void]

I must have started this project 4 and a half years ago then

[lilac idol]

third step is learning how to make textures

[opal void]

Ok

What tools?

[opal void]

Paint.net

Step 4?

[lilac idol]

more like substance painter

[opal void]

Paint 3D

[lilac idol]

you can probably do it in blender

for importing the maps meshes I mean

[opal void]

Okay

What next?

[lilac idol]

I think that's all

remake the textures and remap the UVs

[opal void]

Whats an UV?

[lilac idol]

oh and just so you know the same texture is likely to be used in multiple maps
with the addition that it's likely completely stretched in one map and fine in the other

and that's quite the main reason why no one has really done it

[opal void]

Ill just do it in 32K resolution so the streched out version will still remain 4k

[lilac idol]

a UV tells how the texture is applied on a surface or mesh

[opal void]

[opal void]

ATO?

Rotten Life? Global Texture Rework?

Its not full map?

[lilac idol]

yeah, it's ass

because the textures might look okay in some places but completely fucked in the other half of the maps

[opal void]

Well

Why cant we do it in 1080x1080 x 64?

People are afraid of vram, but vram is afraid of me

[covert pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[lilac idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743324760863408211/1274738993464086528/smileybeef_-_1824476702992376093.gif

[opal void]

Сосал?

[lilac idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156190169511239761/1285264874917859349/caption.gif

[teal compass]

after some edits I think the world position was overriden by something, but anyways I fixed it, thanks @celest forge for your help!

[hidden mist]

idk where to post this but this is a simple patch for gamma's ui_sleep_dialog and the soulslike ui_sleep_dialog to allow you to sleep anywhere (but not anytime). Intended to allow you to sleep with hideout furniture beds.

Patched for Gamma 0.9.3 so that the immersive sleep and soulslike sleep script functions work properly.

[teal compass]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1035807043933720576 this is for you

[hidden mist]

i dont want to start a thread for a 1line script patch that i may have no intentions of updating in future >.>

[teal compass]

that is still mod posting tho

this is discussion here

[brisk crown]

how do i remove a item from db.actor inventory?

function actor_on_item_use(obj)
    local sec = obj:section()
    if (waters[sec]) and obj:get_remaining_uses() > 1 then
        if (math.random(1, 8) == 1) then
            db.actor:removeItem(obj);
            alife_create_item("empty_canteen", db.actor)
            sound_objs.spill_water:play(db.actor, 0, sound_object.s2d)
        end
    end

I'm trying to modify the fill flask mod

(probably :removeItem() doesn't exist)

[random fulcrum]

alife_release

i think that was what it was called

search "release" in *.script files in the unpacked anomaly files

[brisk crown]

yep that must be it, thank you!

[fair canopy]

Does this also let you set a spawn point with those beds?

[hidden mist]

yeah

[fair canopy]

[hidden mist]

it just patches gamma 0.9.3's versions of the ui_dialog_script and the soulslike script to remove the safe zone condition check

[potent crescent]

first time trying modding stalker, might bundle a few QoL ideas I have, but proud I managed to get this simple keybind search working

[hollow furnace]

Hey, I mentioned this a while back but could not find a solution. I was wondering which mod/file is the source of muzzle flash illumination, i.e. the small light that appears briefly after firing. Anybody know?

I was pointed in the direction of screen space shaders and volumetric light but I can't seem to pin it down anywhere in those files

[celest forge]

Depends on the gun

Some use BaS particles, some vanilla i'd guess

[regal bolt]

is a weapon more common the higher or the lower the value? Also what does the "r" mean? (using pic as an example)

[harsh salmon]

Hi, I need some advice. How can I fix this situation - one type of lanterns shines with too warm light, more into the red, and the second shines normally, as it should. These lanterns are stationary in Sidorovich's bunker, for example, and the light is super red. Is it possible to somehow fix this in the config of the objects themselves, color correction has nothing to do with it.

[drifting moat]

But keep in mind that alife_release is not instant. So if you do alife_release then try to get an item with the same nam (another stack of a stackable) it will return the item you just "deleted". You will have to track the deleted item yourself to properly manage this. Also this is only a problem if you want to manage a stack of items in the scope of 1 script file execution I think.

[vast wedge]

guys how can I fix the weight marker? what to edit

I want to make the weight in bottom

[drifting moat]

The align and vert align look suspicious. C could mean center? Try b and find out

This is just an assumption based on the info you provided.

Or try editing the x, y properties. Those actually look way more like what you need

[vast wedge]

I can provide you the mod for more details give me some time

[vast wedge]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/151152-inventory-weights-revised

[drifting moat]

Don't be afraid to fck around and find out. Most of the time it's completely fine to crash your game with buggy code. Keepimg a backup of your saved games and mods you poke around in is heavily recommended still tho

[vast wedge]

but this mod is embeded on Sota's UI rework mod
https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1115558016608120863

[vast wedge]

I'm trying but couldn't figure out so asked here

[drifting moat]

Can't help more right now because I'm actually at work. And I still have almost 7 hours. I hope you solve it! GL HF

[vast wedge]

take your time if you can help later ^_^ no worries... thanks in advance

[vast wedge]

and each time I edit file I need to restart the game which is annoying, any solve for this?

[drifting moat]

Nono. Just reload save

[vast wedge]

okk

[drifting moat]

I'm not sure about xml edits. When you do stuff with the mcm you need to restart the game, but I think it's just simply because of the fact that those files are read during startup. Other xml files are probably not loaded then. Test it.

[vast wedge]

got it

[misty mulch]

where's the function for all the wish granter wishes?

nvm got it

[vast wedge]

SOMEONE HELP IF CAN

[rain shuttle]

I need this in my life, thank you 😭

[regal bolt]

Does anyone know where the files for the games quests are located I’m thinking of making a mod you can toggle on and off that puts more quests in actually accessible locations early on. Basically you would have it on during MM and BS journey and then when you complete them you would turn the mod off.

[sturdy peak]

Hey there! I was looking into reverting some of the changes to the artefact behaviors in the gamma addons, and was referred to those being in the "Artefact Reinvention" addon. Is there any other addon I'll need to reference for those changes?

[misty mulch]

what changes in specific, the artefact resistance cap mechanics, or the entire crafting system for artis

[sturdy peak]

Was looking for the caps, durability burn, spawn rates

Haven't had any of my group ask about crafting so I'm leaving that as is for now

[misty mulch]

so the caps stuff is going to be a lot of effort, since not only will you need to change the actor damage balancer mod scripts to not use the cap system, you also need to redo the stat display to not display any of it

[misty mulch]

!100art // for durability

[queen pine]

@sturdy peak here's the mod that'll let you control artifact condition:
#1200529616733999287 message

[misty mulch]

idfk for spawn rates 🤷

iirc that mod doesn't work??? for dao-spawned artefacts or some shit? i don't recall

[sturdy peak]

Alright, well thank you then. I might just try to restore vanilla behavior then and see if I can add the rest on top

[sudden inlet]

Is there any way to forcefully accept the task? Still figuring out how to make first npc in sight to give it but maybe there is a solution already

[fair granite]

Someone know show can I edit how much discount NPCs give for specific items? I was trying to change how much scientists pay for artefacts. I found Sakharovs file for example, but didn't find the parameter for the discounts. It seems to be on other file but I couldn't find it.

[fair granite]

found out a solution

[brave jackal]

From what I can tell the discounts parameter get the discounts_scientist parameter assigned to it. I assume this discount is present in the presets/trade_discounts.ltx file that is included on top.

I think if you override that file in your modpack with your discount values everything should be fine? If someone could verify this would be great 🙂

[brave jackal]

Higher number is more chance to spawn I believe.

As for the 'r', it stands for random.

[fair granite]

I couldn't find the trade_discount file on mine, what I did was change the price multiplier for artefacts_h on trade_presets

Considering my problem in specific was that arties were selling for too much for my taste on my custom progression configuration, it solved out, just applied a smaller multiplier. But I didn't found the file for discounts_scientist parameter at all

[brave jackal]

I think you couldn't find it because that file is located in another modpack and just gets referenced in this file. To find it you will probably need to search for it in the main mods folder of the GAMMA folder, {gamma install location}/mods.

From what I can tell on how LTX works is that files are overrideable in the modpacks and that the file with the highest load order wins but I don't necessarily think that to reference a file it has to be present in your modpack as long as it exists somewhere else?

[regal bolt]

Cheers o7

[fair granite]

Oh, yea, found it. I was using the MO2 search. 😂

good to know, ty

[tender pawn]

So update, I’m basically just making a rearranged version of the Mars Automatic Pistol now

Someone else drew this for me before I decided to just go fuck it and make the whole barrel reciprocate instead of it being in a sleeve

So more of the barrel and bolt and stuff will show up in the final model anyway

https://youtu.be/8KTAUbyUCj0?si=HAmyAUfuED3lSExC

(And now I’m being tempted to rent a 3d printer to print out a prototype later)

[drifting moat]

You're right. Files don't need to exist in a concrete mods folder for the scripts in the folder to be able to reference it. The mod order thing is correct too. With 1 addition. You can create patch files too and those override the file no matter where they're in the mod order. If anorher patch file overwrites the same file then mod order comes back to play for those. Those are my experiences, but there are more experienced modders who will correct us

[leaden sky]

Do meshes in gamma use only a single texture file? As of, are the textures for, idk, duty nosorog covering everything in that fit or is it split into parts?

[celest forge]

Depends on the mesh

[teal compass]

some do, some do not

[covert pivot]

There's barely any NPC mesh that uses only 1 texture. For most even just the face is a separate texture (i think some clear sky meshes have face included).

[teal compass]

just came up with some idea that probably I can use small mags to craft bigger mags lol

[fair canopy]

should probably make it more expensive to craft

[teal compass]

probably, this is just me testing, I was trying to follow what tarkov does but felt kind expensive

[fair granite]

Anyone knows what do I need to edit on actor_effects to get gas mask breathing sounds and visuals without the actual mask shader being on? I can actually make my game run like that if I disable mask hud, apply, and enable it again, but everytime I take off the gas mask and put it on again the shader comes back (as it should be )

Just wanna make breathing sounds + visuals work without the FPS tank

[regal bolt]

could someone tell me the definition (used by the community) of the term Redux when it comes to modding?

[sudden inlet]

Magazines mod?

[celest forge]

Redux is like

Remade

More often than not used like "done better"

[timber crescent]

Is there any mod for trees that not gonna make game run in 10 fps ?

[regal bolt]

thought so, cheers o7

[sturdy plaza]

I got a fairly dumb question. Making my own little thing. If i want my whatever being loaded on top of original files in the mod loader do i have to put it before or after in the load order?

As in like this or other way around?

69. My whatever
70. The mod which files i used

[summer stream]

you put it BELOW

below means higher priority

higher priority means it loads in last
and it overwrites the other stuff

[sturdy plaza]

Alright, thats all i needed, thank you!

[rough lion]

How can I add/remove difficulties in the new game menu?

[neon igloo]

Hi guys

I have a problem, it takes a long time to enter the sight on the PKP machine gun, how can I fix this?

[random fulcrum]

change its zoom_rotate_time in the ltx

[regal bolt]

Is there a specific way that different HUD elements are overlayed? for Example BHS, Minimap and Mask overlays are all separate. is there a way to edit which one will always appear on top first/have priority over the other HUD overlays? I apologies i fully dont know the correct terminology

[jovial burrow]

Some legend should create a snow shader that works kinda the ssame as the rain droplets or acts as a replacment of

[stone bane]

I am not creating a mod per se but I was thinking this is the best channel to ask

I am trying to swap out a first person HUD model for a suit. I don't need any new models, I just want it to use one that already exists in the game

I have found a suit that has an incorrect model in the default gamma THAP (at least for me) and was trying to fix it myself by reassigning it to use the correct one.

I tried going into the mod files for the THAP rework mods and altering the text in some of the configs/txts but it hasn't altered anything sadly

[quasi narwhal]

sometimes a duckass is worth more than a 1000 words

and so can you

[stone bane]

Simply upgrade it to multithreaded guys hurry up

[quasi narwhal]

no one does

[stone bane]

We have to crowd fund it

[quasi narwhal]

homie you either learn it and do it yourself or you stfu

it's a quite simple logic

it ain't a simple job, nor a rewarding one

[stone bane]

I dont think we should actually crowd fund it

[quasi narwhal]

buy something better than that shit u found in the garbage to run the game then

[celest forge]

This gotta be a social experiment

[quasi narwhal]

get a job, save the money and spend on a decent gaming pc

you'll be done before someone implements multithreading into this engine i'm telling you

[covert pivot]

update to latest gamma version and go look at #╰⚡fps-optimisation

dont use fwp

[quasi narwhal]

logs as in the logs being printed on the console?
if so then well, logging deals with string parsing which can be slow, if there is something spamming logs then it could cause fps drops, but it ain't the case 99.999% of the time

there are mods that also remove logs spamming from other mods

[covert pivot]

What gamma version are you playing on

then you're out of luck, you already have the biggest performance win in the last 2 years in there

[stone bane]

Are you sure you're on the latest? From like 1 day ago?

[covert pivot]

they are delusional

[stone bane]

Yeah I gained fps from the BHS fix so that sucks

All you can do is probably turn down AI range and offline combat and maybe reduce population then if your cpu is bottlenecking that hard

[lilac idol]

seriously tho if your graphics card can't even support dx11 how can you expect people to get you more performance out of their ass

[stone bane]

if its actually ur gpu though theres options to gain fps beyond that

[quasi narwhal]

if you're playing on dx9 then we already know where your performance issue is

[lilac idol]

also just play modded anomaly if you're struggling so much

[covert pivot]

there's also many other things in there than just "use dx9"

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-cat-cat-meme-cat-low-quality-cat-mitch-scream-gif-26479726

[lilac idol]

well your best bet is going to be pulling out your wallet if you want an engine upgrade

[celest forge]

What are you ON dude

Bro talking like i'm climbing mount everest for making STALKER mods

Also why are yall engaging with something that is either awful bait or a raging narcisist

[lilac idol]

demonized actually laughed at this convo

[celest forge]

Why is he lazy and dont update engine? (No judges)

[covert pivot]

otherwise we wouldnt hear how bad your mods are (no judges)

[celest forge]

You really got me there, partner

[fair granite]

Icant

[celest forge]

You want someone to completely rewrite the engine, for free, on their own time because you won't put a single pebble of effort towards it because you don't want to "waste your time"

So you see the time of other mores less valuable than yours and them "wasting" their time is ok

[misty mulch]

what is in the water

[celest forge]

Frogs

https://tenor.com/view/frog-meme-gif-7596913242651313594

[misty mulch]

multi threaded frogs

[covert pivot]

man i love frogs

[fair granite]

I get 60 fps 95% of the time on a 1070 with SSS, bloom, omni lights all the good stuff (not on max settings ofc). Spend more time tweaking the game and less asking people to do magic on an old game engine. If it was easy It would have been done already. Also if the PC spec is that bad, I recommend more working and less gaming

If that's a bait congratz

[sturdy plaza]

what, what kind of a convo did i just miss? came here for a question....anyway

gamma npc loadouts.
is that a new mod and partially rewritten? because i swear i was looking at the same files in there and they didnt look so well structured.

[covert pivot]

They were redone with 093

[sturdy plaza]

that explains a lot! thank you! this will make things...easier ? for me? idk. just nice to know

[misty mulch]

you can thank SD's Weighted NPC Loadouts mod for that

if you want to understand how they're written, check that mod's script files + comments

[sturdy plaza]

i see, i assume the game doesnt really utilize the npc loadouts as a squad, does it?

[covert pivot]

I recommend reading the npc_loadouts.ltx. It gives and overview all the possible ways to assign guns to NPCs. There is many ways

[sturdy plaza]

i am, i am doing it rn.

it just says it gives priority to npc's being spawned in a squad first and thats a whole different file of their loadouts. its just never really been active. so im asking if that has changed as it is not mentioned there

[covert pivot]

If you unpack vanilla anomaly you'll see the other example files. GAMMA makes use of the "name" and "faction + rank" methods of assigning loadouts

But you can just add new sections for the other methods if you want

[south kestrel]

I really enjoyed GAMMA and its slow, realistic and rewarding gameplay and progression. I noticed that with GAMMAs progression, there is little need to or reason for trying more than a couple of the awesome weapons per playtrough.

How fun would be to GAMMA into a "gun game", where some of your weapons get changed automatically? Making the game a bit easier/more arcadey (ammo count, more enemies etc.) would probably be necessary.

[celest forge]

There's a mod for that

Although it kinda goes directly against what gamma is as a concept

[sturdy plaza]

i know all that, but if it spawns them as a squad, those files no longer apply. only other question i have is about weight. if default is 10, going lower or higher would make something rarer or more common. as that is also not exactly explained

[south kestrel]

what's its name?

I agree with you in principle. But I'd love to keep all the amazing gameplay features, numerous weapons and graphics of gamma.

[covert pivot]

Even if npcs are spawned as a squad then all the other options of assigning loadouts still work for them.

[sturdy plaza]

oh, alright

[covert pivot]

And yes. Thats just how a weighted chance works

[sturdy plaza]

yeah, but i want to know if default is 10 and i make it 50, is it rarer now or more common?

[covert pivot]

chance for a weapon to spawn is:
weapon_weight/combined_weight_of_all_weapons_in_the_pool.

if you make it 50 its more common

it has more weight to be chosen

[sturdy plaza]

so higher number makes it more common. thank you. i just didnt get which way it went

[sly cipher]

black market i think the name is

it should be in mo2 it could be outdated i dont know personally

[sturdy plaza]

alright, fucked around, found out. the weight really impacts rarity. like, even a bit of a difference causes something to be very rare

[misty mulch]

black market re-adds guns removed from gamma, but if you're going to use it, lbr it doesn't matter

[misty mulch]

as i said in newbies chat, you are describing modded anomaly. it would legitimately be easier to just mod anomaly to get closer to gamma than the other way around

[sturdy plaza]

does it do that on purpouse or its just because its radom or something?

[misty mulch]

the only real difference would be "make a mod that randomly changes your equipped gun every X interval, to a random other gun"

which i mean, sounds fun in a chaotic way

if you're down for it, it could be a fun mod to make.

[misty mulch]

yeah, "weight" means "how likely it is to be chosen" so yes, it's on purpose

[sturdy plaza]

oh no no

that i figured out

im talking about the black market mod. does it add unused weapons on purpouse or they are there just because it picks something random from everything?

[misty mulch]

because the original author made it several versions of gamma ago and has not updated the list of sold guns to be up to date, especially after 0.9.3 removed many more weapons

[sturdy plaza]

i see

[misty mulch]

and author doesn't want to update the guns list ig? i don't blame them

[sturdy plaza]

its just me being curious n shit with my own little thing. i realised my previous task of adding nearly all the removed ak's is just.....not useful in anyway. i want to add back the ones which have some merit. like the akm ingame has no dovotail mount to accept scopes while the akms does. so i want to add the versions which do the opposite of the same gun. basically i want both akm's one with it, other without it

instead of just having all of them. not exactly sure how to balance it out and what not.

cus i got big plans for this, but i really doubt i actually succeed at what i want, but one way to find out

[south kestrel]

That's what I'm talking about. Of course, it would have to be in good condition and ammo would have to come with it. I you could somehow tie "break current gun" to the condition "find new gun with ammo somewhere" it would be fun.

I have no clue about modding though 😄

...some gameplay loop, which forces and enables you to use different guns

[misty mulch]

How is your Lua? Sounds possible

[south kestrel]

my what? 😄

[misty mulch]

Your ability to code in Lua

You'll need to be able to do that to make the mod you are describing

[south kestrel]

non existant

how long would it take to learn coding in Lua before I could accomplish something like that?

[merry bramble]

So when I compress something back to a 7zip file, is there anything special I need like compression methods or what not? Or is it just the archive to [Blank] and what not?

[covert pivot]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/scripting/index.html

[south kestrel]

daunting! much respect to you guys. So the chances of my idea coming to fruition are slim 😄

[covert pivot]

only you can decide that

spawning or removing guns from player inventory isnt complicated, theres examples in vanilla anomaly (hint: ||scopes||) and probably multiple mods in gamma

[misty mulch]

i'm tempted to give it a go myself
eta: prob just... blank the "set gun to 83% condition" script, then at a given gun % threshold run script to randomly replace it with another gun from some table of permitted weapons

[misty mulch]

if you're just doing script or config edits without large files in it... just "archive to ..." will be fine

[covert pivot]

I did a selfimposed playthrough for a bit on close to vanilla anomaly kinda similar to the idea. I wasnt allowed to reload guns

[merry bramble]

its models, i pulled some out of the mod and trying to recompress them. whe ni do it that way it's of course didnt recognize it

[misty mulch]

oh lol then i am not the person to ask for compression wizardry

[covert pivot]

what doesnt recognize it? Shouldnt need to do anything special to 7zip them

[celest forge]

Nullmoxy did a gun game mod but i never got it working

[covert pivot]

the folder structure is just wrong

[misty mulch]

first folder should be gamedata

[covert pivot]

zip the gamedata folder, but if you open the dropdown you should be able to select the folder above gamedata and select it as root or something like that

[old fern]

Guys, I'm curious about one thing... GAMMA looks fantastic, improved textures, lighting, fx, looks great. But the thing that stands out is low poly models. Is there any particular reason no mods, or very little mods, tackle various props around the world? Is it not possible, does it cause instability or what?

[covert pivot]

It should actually also handle your_folder/gamedata. Double checking most of my mods are zipped like this

[merry bramble]

ty guys!

[celest forge]

The lighting, texture and fx mods are already a big performance hit as it is

Remaking the entire geometry of all maps is not only a gargantuan task but it could easily quadruple the poly count of those maps

Cant imagine many people pulling 30+fps if that was the case

[old fern]

I was under the impression that poly count is not that bad of an impact. And plus, I'm not saying quadrople the size of polygons, but just a few extra here and there to better define the shape.

I was part of a fallout 4 modding scene for a long time, and usually people are updating odd models all the time. So I am mainly curious why the same does not happen here... I wanted to transition from MODO to Blender for a long time, and this might just push me a bit more to learn that workflow too..

[covert pivot]

Like all world objects are also baked into the level I think. And you can only have one version of a map active at a time. So you cant just swap out specific meshes.

[celest forge]

The poly count would indeed be that bad of an impact

Thats why the BaS world models were optimized for better performance

[misty mulch]

this engine is incomparably crustier than creation engine used in fo4

or whatever the fuck the bethesda forever engine is called

the tools are also a lot less, uh, complete

[celest forge]

Also yeah bethesda's engine is vastly superior to XRay

In pretty much all aspects

[old fern]

Ok, ok .. That actually makes a ton of sense now...

[celest forge]

Expect maybe the fact that Xray's source code is available

[drifting moat]

Give some love to the poor monolith

[old fern]

Yeah, if you have to bake a whole map to make a change to a single truck model, I can see why now one does it 😄

[celest forge]

Only a single person has been succesful in making new map mods for anomaly

Apparently its mega hard

[covert pivot]

and editing existing anomaly maps isnt easy either - we cant really adjust AI grid

so any addition or removals wont affect AI paths

[old fern]

So no navmeshing either.. Ok, ok you convinced me

[sturdy plaza]

ffs. anybody knows which file exactly is responsable for item repair kit redirect? theres 3 of them and i got no clue which one i need to modify or replace. just adding anything new in any one just makes the game crash

[misty mulch]

mod_system_items_repair_zGAMMA_repair_redirect.ltx

what are you changing

which gun + which repair kit, also, what crash error do you get

[sturdy plaza]

changing what is there is fairly easy, just works. changed rpd to repair_type=rifle_5

that works. im trying to add more things, like specifically rpk16 to rifle 7. basically d-tier

add a line, do check if i made mistakes, but shouldnt have

opened game and tried to spawn it with debug. the repair kit type just isnt showing on it and when i click on details the game crashes. giving me stat trace error

like, i can go and edit each weapon individually to take a repair kit i want, but that would be a lot of files instead of using what is already there just for that

[celest forge]

Maybe that gun doesn't have parts?

[sturdy plaza]

it does, all of them do

im quite certain its actually in the game and findable. it aint disabled by drops either

nvm, just sort of worked....

im really confused

[celest forge]

X-ray being xray

[sturdy plaza]

ok, this really is a xray moment. i did it all again and it just worked. doesnt even need proper priority in mod order. just copied the original file and made my own "mod" with my changes to it , dumped it in as literally last and it worked. like 600+ spot. i have no idea how this works

[sudden inlet]

Hi, guys, can I do something to force a stalker to give me a specific dynamic quest? Simple ways like task_manager.get_task_manager( ):give_task give me an error and I'm trying to deal with them, but maybe I'm missing something about task giving

Nvm, just hardcoded random npc's id instead of task giver for testing

[teal compass]

also managed to craft weapons like ak to akm but I guess the craft always give you a perfect condition gun no matter the previous gun condition

[fair canopy]

You'd need to rewrite the script to account for the parts

[novel ruin]

What is the callback for a script that gets to run first? Does it depend on the script/callback's names and in alphabetical order? or Something else?

[drifting moat]

Maybe the order in which they were registered? Create a few callbacks that log to console and test it.

[south kestrel]

Give me a holler uf you ever try this and need play testing (least I can do) 🙂

[sturdy plaza]

Wrong akm in a sense, that one is unused

[limber dawn]

@covert pivot let me know if you mind the ping, but I was curious where in the GitHub repo I can find info about NPC loadouts/outfits corresponding to suits that they can drop - what keywords to look for?

[covert pivot]

npc_loadouts*.ltx files for guns. death_outfits.ltx for npc visual -> outfit drop

[limber dawn]

Many thanks

[plucky veldt]

Can anyone help me to understand how to edit ammo costs in the game? I found the file in gamma economy mod, but I am not understanding why the changes I am making are not being reflected the way I intend in game. I am waiting the 24hr stock change period for traders as well.

[teal compass]

thought so

[teal compass]

I know, I was just testing if this will work lol

[plucky veldt]

Did you ever manage to change the prices at all?

[celest forge]

Probably some other dltx file changing them

[plucky veldt]

hope not

[misty mulch]

pre-formatted csv for visual-model-to-outfit-drop mapping so you can open it in your spreadsheet editor of choice

[limber dawn]

You are a Zonesend, thank you veerserif

[misty mulch]

fyi, if you compare it solely to death_outfits.ltx you might find it a little weird, that is because i ALSO pulled from mod_death_generic_g_a_m_m_a_no_integrated_helmets_in_armors.ltx DLTX file

so that csv should represent the complete set of mappings including both the base death_outfits file and the dltx overwrite, though given what i now know about messiness in overwriting that... it may still be a little different than what you would observe in game. but it should be close enough, for most uses

[spark totem]

Hi so i'm in blender and i'm trying to figure out how to port one of the arms into it so I can change the hands for these

And I don't know how to do that.So can somebody help me?

[random fulcrum]

why does the cube have arms

[spark totem]

It's just a debug

I did that in

[sacred token]

same thought tbh

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/triangle-moving-dancing-grooving-shaking-gif-19415515

[fair canopy]

That makes sense

[sand grove]

Where can I find the config file for the "Bear" shotgun?

It says bm16 in the item description, but the bm16 I see is only for 12 gauge

Nvm I got it

[sturdy plaza]

wait, how have i missed this? each gun has only 1 silencer option?

so by game code , i cant even add another option because there is only 1 option for a gun?

[plucky veldt]

Imagine stacking suppressors

Like, 1 on top of the other. Like multiple Chirgurgh shotgun suppressors lmao

[sturdy plaza]

no, no...thats not the idea at all. i mean, each gun has only 1 supressor option to choose from

[wispy ferry]

yes, the only reason multiple suppressors are in game is because some guns are set to use a different suppressor
in the original games, all suppressors were universal

[sturdy plaza]

i know all , that. i was genuinely thinking of making something. like , idk a gun where you can pick between 2 different silencers. i dont think i can do that knowing the game recognises only one option for it

[wispy ferry]

you could sort of sidestep that by making each suppressor a scope instead, like some guns in GAMMA have their upgrade kits
downside, can't do scopes, and/or it ends up a permanent change so you can't go to the unsuppressed weapon again

[sturdy plaza]

i wouldnt care too much about the pernament change, but it creates a new problem

as each scope / dot and whatever counts as a whole new gun ingame....that would be a lot to make and now i would need to remake double of all guns in the game if i want to go and do it that way

i much rather not

[wispy ferry]

well, double for each optic you decide to make work for it
I don't think any gun in the game can use every optic existing in the files

[plucky veldt]

I am well aware what you meant, I was just insinuating a funny idea lmao

[sturdy plaza]

no, but i think you understand how that is too much work for something so ...simple? im not dumping that much time on that. not that im not willing to put in some effort, that is just way too tedious and much for such a tiny thing

[sturdy plaza]

got it lol

[plucky veldt]

Also does anyone have an idea about this? How to edit the cost of items in the economy, say I want to increase the cost of a mag of ammo?

[sturdy plaza]

what did you change previously?

[plucky veldt]

the trader files in the gamma economy mod, I tried to cchange the values shown but didn't really have much effect other than changing the amount and types of ammo he sold.

[sturdy plaza]

because i believe over there you can only change the markup he can have of an item. like, 1.2x times more than the items value itself. no?

[wispy ferry]

oh, if you want to edit the cost of ammo you can just do a DLTX edit

like,

cost = 9001```

it won't change the amount of ammo on offer or w/e but it will effect the price it's sold (and bought) at

[sturdy plaza]

where did you find that file or whats its name?

[wispy ferry]

not anywhere, DLTX is an engine thing where you can edit certain .ltx things like item stats without having to hard overwrite existing files

here's my still-not-updated DLTX modding guide if you want to try it by yourself
or I can slap together the file structure and guide you through the editing process

here's a template, just install via MO2 and then open it, change the values as you see fit, and have a test or two at how it works and adjust accordingly

[sturdy plaza]

actually, seeing a example for once and explained does make it look easy. i do have couple of dumb questions tho

[wispy ferry]

I may have dumb answers to those questions, so go ahead!

[sturdy plaza]

im not certain its great to be in here, but alright. first of all. if i edit possible loadouts for npc's, i assume this can no longer do that and i have to edit the original files there

[wispy ferry]

loadouts are a harder thing, that I've not messed about with
I think DLTX can be used for that, but probably only to add guns and items, not to remove ones they already have

[misty mulch]

No, NPC loadouts can be DLTXed in gamma

Gamma primarily uses npc_loadout_factionname.ltx files to define loadouts on a per faction basis, these can be edited by dltx

The actually tricky part is understanding how the different sections in the DLTX file maps onto different faction ranks and spawnd

[sturdy plaza]

alright. so i assume it would be easier overwriting what is already there

[misty mulch]

And you can absolutely delete lines, you just do

![section_you're_editing]
!line_to_remove    ;this line MUST start with !

Refer back to the DLTX Syntax guide, it's from the modding guidebook in the pins here

[sturdy plaza]

could you send me a link to the guidebook thing?

[misty mulch]

Check pins, am on phone right now

[misty mulch]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html but seriously. Check the pins of this channel, there are a LOT of resources there

[sturdy plaza]

thank you, i did find the modding book link

ffs, half of the people could have told me this exists instead of laughing at my dumb af questions

[sturdy plaza]

fuck me, can i just dm you? i got many dumb questions at this point

[misty mulch]

Fine but I reserve the right to disappear at stretches while trying to put out fires in base support

Just so you have realistic expectations from me e: also i mostly only do config stuff, i can code somewhat in python but don't know lua (so won't be of help for script mods)

[covert pivot]

you can still ask here as well, someone usually will answer even if you feel the question is dumb - or direct you to info you could use or give you examples of mods that do something similar. seeing what other people have done and how they do things is great to find solutions for things you want to do

asking stuff in a public setting is also good because then someone else might get info out of it as well

[vast plaza]

Modding Question.

How is it possible to add new items to the death_generic.ltx and death_items files per dltx?
I did it like this:

Folder: gamedata / configs / items / settings

File: mod_death_items_vc

![base]
vc_item_1 = 0.01
vc_item_2 = 0.01
vc_item_3= 0.01
vc_item_4 = 0.01

;;--==================================< Stalker >========= =========================

![stalker_professional]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.002
![stalker_veteran]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.004
![stalker_expert]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.006
![stalker_master]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.008
![stalker_legend]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.01

For my understanding, the corresponding items should then spawn from the stalkers because I added them to the main file.

I spawned and looted 100 expert stalkers. Nobody had any item from a total of 20 new items with them. The spawn chance for many items is between 0.001 - 0.01 = 0,1 - 1%

[misty mulch]

the root is death_generic so your DLTX file name needs to start with mod_death_generic, not mod_death_items

[vast plaza]

sorry, I forgot to say that. Of course I also created this file. mod_death_generic_vc and added the corresponding items there.

![item_count]
vc_item_1 = 1, 1
vc_item_2 = 1, 1
vc_item_3 = 1, 1
etc...

In the death items.ltx I would like to add faction-specific items sorted by rank. that's why I asked.

[covert pivot]

You cant dltx directly into death_items.ltx

[misty mulch]

that's what i'm saying

everything you have in the mod_death_items_vc, should go inside mod_death_generic_vc

[covert pivot]

You can dltx only into roots - files that are loaded inside of a script directly or make their way into system.ltx through #include chains.

In this case death_items.ltx has no script that loads it, but it is included inside death_generic.ltx with
#include "death_items.ltx"

And if you look where death_generic.ltx is used you can find inside itms_manager.script:
ini_death = ini_file("items\\settings\\death_generic.ltx")

[vast plaza]

ok thx, but how can i edit factions-specific loot? I'm currently creating a mod that adds faction secret documents. Each faction has personal documents. item_documents_stalker = stalker
item_documents_bandit = bandit. etc.

I want each faction to only carry its own secret documents and not from other factions.

[covert pivot]

Anomaly Book doesnt really explain what a root is (atleast i didnt find an explanation ) but there's tools for this
https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html#ltxdiff-findroot

[covert pivot]

Thats with the sections you used in mod_death_items_vc:

vc_item_5_stalker = 0.002
![stalker_veteran]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.004
![stalker_expert]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.006
![stalker_master]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.008
![stalker_legend]
vc_item_5_stalker = 0.01```

You just need to put them inside a mod_death_generic_whateverhere.ltx file

[vast plaza]

ahhhh... ok... this way. Thank you a lot. I'll test it now 👍

[covert pivot]

The dltx root stuff is probably the most annoying thing to figure out about it good luck

[vast plaza]

I set the spawn rate to 90% (for testing) and yes IT WORKS 🙏 nice!

[misty mulch]

yeah the "root file" concept is glossed over very fast

[sturdy plaza]

im trying to figure out how the fuck do i even use that tool atm

im here and i have no clue what im doing

i need to sleep, but i would love if someone would explain what im doing right or wrong based on that screen, because i am so lost atm. This program looks like something someone would use to steal my steam account or something

[misty mulch]

so - you basically never want to, or need to, run the DLTXify tool ever. That is meant to convert a direct file overwrite into a DLTX file. Which you don't need because you're making it a DLTX file from scratch.

You only need to care about the LTXDiff tool. Make sure you got that one.

[soft burrow]

I think I just thought up a method to automatically set the minimum necessary width for text windows

First you start with a really slim text window, set its text, and set its height with the automatic height function that does work.

Save the height, and repeat the previous steps, this time set the width a little bigger.

Repeat until the height doesn't decrease anymore.

[brave jackal]

Is there a simple way to get all the id's of the guns and armour in Gamma?

Including the ones you add?

[acoustic lodge]

Is there anywhere an explanation on what the npc_loadouts parameters change, for example whats the difference between wpn_bizon and wpn_bizon:0:r , i couldn't find anything about it in the anomaly modding book

[teal compass]

according to the anomaly script its something like this
loadouts[section][cnt].sec = tmp[1]
loadouts[section][cnt].attachment = tmp[2] or "0"
loadouts[section][cnt].ammo_type = tmp[3] or "0"
loadouts[section][cnt].chance = tonumber(tmp[4]) or 50

I guess its "weapon_name:chance of att:what ammo type:chance to spawn it"

[acoustic lodge]

got it, thanks!

[random fulcrum]

attachment flag

and ammo index

read npc_loadouts.ltx

that has the explanation

[brisk crown]

there's a bug in item_knife.script at the line 84, function degradate() (It's not working) localized in G.A.M.M.A. Cooking Overhaul

Here is a fix I've made for it, now knifes do degrate when skinning

function degradate()
    local num = 0
    for knind = 1, #knifesm do
        local obj = db.actor:object(knifesm[knind])
        if obj ~= nil then
            local cond = obj:condition()
            local wpn = obj:section()

            if knifes[wpn] then
                num = knifes[wpn]
            end

            if (cond > num) then
                obj:set_condition(cond - num / 4)
            else
                obj:set_condition(0.01)
            end
        end
    end
end

dunno if i need to report this to a modder or a helper

[random fulcrum]

hold on what the fuck is that

ah it reads from a table

fatal lapse in judgement

[brisk crown]

i dunno why it was not working before, so i tried to fix and it worked this way

[random fulcrum]

that's an honestly weird way to do the degradation huh

so every thing you skin deals the same damage to a given knife depending on where it's put in the table

but why does knife1 not degrade?

[brisk crown]

only knife 2 was degrading

[random fulcrum]

no shit?

i never noticed

gahdaym

i just thought they just were way too durable

never bothered to check that script

the more you know

[teal compass]

there's no knife1? just wpn_knife and wpn_knife2 idk if that's the reason

[random fulcrum]

didn't remember its name but ye i was referring to just knife

[brisk crown]

yes, knife and knife2, no knife1

[teal compass]

alr but thanks because then the sharping stone actually is useful now🤣

[brisk crown]

i remember it working way before when i downloaded this mod before g.a.m.m.a. was a thing

i was always wondering why were they so durable

but not knife2

[teal compass]

I used to play efp4.2 when the degrading was working

then here at gamma I was wondering if the no degrade is intended lol

now I know the answer

[brisk crown]

it was but it only working for one knife

since axe can't skin (sledgehamme is axe3 lmao) they don't degrade

[teal compass]

🤣 and in my playthrough I skipped that knife since I got a m9 in a stash

[brisk crown]

wait what you can loot knives from stashes?

i thought it was intended to be bought only, hmm i wonder

[teal compass]

I can't remember much since I have edited stash loot in zcp, but yeah I think I do find several knifes in stash, even a oracle nvg

[brisk crown]

one thing i would like grook to add, is the m79 back, since we have the rpg7

dunno why it is commented everywhere

[teal compass]

I think it is a hard time to balance explosive in gamma, that is why its not added

although I added like several launcher myself lol

[brisk crown]

i mean if they are one shot, they will be just like the underbarrel ones

the problem with underbarrel ones is that clunkyness to change the aim mode until you get into gl aim mode, also sometimes when i kept the under gl loaded, and switch zones or do a load game, the round inside vanishes

probably a proper gl would not have these issues

[teal compass]

indeed so that's why I added it back

[brisk crown]

is there a way to make them also shot 40mm shells?

like a shotgun

[pulsar flame]

got a quick question guys

anyone know where the burn_immunity value gets accessed?

[brisk crown]

line 40, ish_item_stats.script from mod 124 - Nitpickers Modpack

i think

[pulsar flame]

alr then

thanks

it keeps causing a crash

so I think I'll just disable GAMMA Accurate Defense Values for now

since it was added recently

I've just been having issues since the last update

so this might be what's causing it

thx

[brisk crown]

wut

i don't understand, there's a st_pda_task_limit_reached

before update was "task limit reached"

    <btn_task_limit_reached x="630" y="35" width="20" height="20" stretch="1">
        <texture>ui_inGame2_pda_taskboard_task_limit_reached</texture>
        <text x="30" font="letterica16" align="l">st_pda_task_limit_reached</text>
        <text_color>
                <t r="220" g="0" b="0"/>
                <d r="220" g="0" b="0"/>
                <e r="220" g="0" b="0"/>
                <h r="220" g="0" b="0"/>
            </text_color>
    </btn_task_limit_reached>

wtf

[pulsar flame]

i removed it and I'm still crashing

do you have any other files in mind that might access it?

[brisk crown]

i have no idea sorry D:

[pulsar flame]

ah alr then

well thx for the help anyway

looks like grok_actor_damage_balancer has it

so I'm gonna try and disable the mod for that

aaaand it didn't work

dam

[misty mulch]

as per usual, blame GMTOP

[misty mulch]

this text string is added by PDA Taskboard, likely in a new(ish, as in, within the last year) update. GMTOP completely overwrites its text file with an ancient version which doesn't have that string. Behold: bug.

[misty mulch]

super easy fix is to copy paste the string section with the matching ID, from the PDA Taskboard copy of ui_pda_taskboard.xml into the GMTOP version

alternatively: disable GMTOP

[teal compass]

so gmtop just completely overwrites every xml files before it

[misty mulch]

yeah

it was pretty clearly made by copying every single xml file from the gamma modpack, whether or not they were being altered, so that it overwrites every single xml file

so if any mod ever updates or changes its xml strings, gmtop will break it

and that's why relying on file overwrites for minor edits is not a good method if you care about compatibility even a bit

[teal compass]

isnt there dxml or something tho? or they just arent practical

[misty mulch]

a lot of people find dxml intimidating to use (e: because technically it is lua)

also it's just newer than dltx

before dltx became standard apparently everyone would just do complete overwrites of .ltx files too

(to be clear i was not into anomaly modding then. so i am merely reporting things i've heard)

[steady bridge]

Does anyone have any good resources for BAIN/FOMOD installers?
I'm making a mod to increase consumable uses, but I want the user to be able to choose which components to install. I.E Food/Cooking/Repairs.
Right now, it's just 1 file.
Thanks!

[misty mulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6821/ i use this

[teal compass]

well yeah I think u r totally right I would just edit gmtop for all of those names I guess

[misty mulch]

though in short you'll probably want to make one copy of your "one big file" for each option - so a "slight increase", "large increase", "super extra 999 uses on everything increase" version. then you can use the fomod tool to basically tell the installer to pick which version of the file to install depending on the user's choice

[misty mulch]

mm. i mean i just made a very small simple DXML edit mod myself to learn how to do it.

[steady bridge]

Ahh I gotcha, I'll take a look.
I was hoping to find some documentation, or script somewhere. I'm a linux using snowflake and do most things by hand when possible, vice run something under wine.

[teal compass]

I know its not impossible, but after I know what cause xml name errors I would just fix it there lol

[misty mulch]

https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/How_to_create_mod_installers

[misty mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr79YmimJW0

i googled "how to make a fomod"

[steady bridge]

Thanks!
Looks like most of these resources are "Yeah, use this program."
I'll take a look

[misty mulch]

oh you want to write the xml

[misty mulch]

https://fomod-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial.html\

[teal compass]

yes I was trying to edit some gun's name and descriptions, but sometimes it didnt work, then I see you talking about gmtop then I noticed they are the last loaded ones

so yeah that's what I'm trying to get and thanks lol

[misty mulch]

if you did want to try and learn how to make a DXML mod, you could always look at the mod i made to teach myself https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1268200405339472033

it is a very simple, "if the game reads this XML file, replace the text in this string ID, with this other piece of text" script

[teal compass]

alright thank you I'll look into it

[steady bridge]

Anyone know about how these 2 items get their max_uses?
[cooking]
[army_bowler]

mods/G.A.M.M.A. UI/gamedata/configs/items/items/items_cooking.ltx:[cooking]:booster_multi says their max use should be 3, but ingame it's 8
I cannot find where 8 is defined elsewhere, (grepped the entire mod directory) nor can I actually change the max_uses via a homemade DTLX mod. These are the only 2 items like this so far as I can see.

[misty mulch]

GAMMA folder\mods\G.A.M.M.A. Cooking Overhaul\gamedata\configs\mod_system_satiety_GAMMA.ltx

[misty mulch]

secret technique:

• ![cooking] means it looks for anything that resembles an attempt to override [cooking]
• only looks at .ltx files
• just make it search every single subfolder of gamma/mods directory
  between the find in file results + the MO2 file searcher (to tell you which version of the file actually wins the overwrite wars) that's how i figure out where things get overwritten, all the time

you could even refine the filter further since all DLTX files must start with mod_, so technically my filter could be mod_*.ltx

(also i would happily guess that the reason your DLTX mod failed is that it wasn't targeting the correct root LTX file, which for items_cooking is actually system, meaning it also should be in gamedata/configs)

second potential reason is that DLTX loads alphabetically, last loaded wins, so your DLTX would have to come alphabetically after mod_system_satiety_GAMMA.ltx to "beat" its edits

[steady bridge]

the name of the file I'd like to override is named "mod_system_item_uses.ltx",

So, now my predicament is figuring out the correct way to have my file override values set in the other one

[steady bridge]

So I could just throw a few ZZZZZ's in the file name, right? in theory

[misty mulch]

gross, don't do it

literally just anything that comes in the alphabet after "s" would work

[steady bridge]

strange, the file already has "U" in it

[misty mulch]

you only include ONE root file, so your DLTX mod filename should be in the format mod_system_myoverwritefilename.ltx

[misty mulch]

you see the issue here
mod_system_item_uses.ltx
mod_system_satiety_GAMMA.ltx

[steady bridge]

it's delimited by 3 previous underscores?

[misty mulch]

the sections are as follows (splitting on _ for readability):
mod: prefix telling the engine "this is a DLTX file"
system: tells the engine 'the root LTX file I am modifying is called system.ltx'
satiety_GAMMA: name of the file. can be literally anything. THIS is what matters for alphabetical sort.

[steady bridge]

I think I'm seeing it now, I renamed it to "mod_system_uses.ltx"
Gonna see if that works

[misty mulch]

that should

[steady bridge]

Learning a lot, we really should have a wiki or something lol

[misty mulch]

in future you really want to reference the documentation https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html

link is in pin

[steady bridge]

Thanks for the guidance! Unrelated, but I got GAMMA to work flawlessly on AMD + Linux. Anywhere in particular I should post my notes?

[misty mulch]

honestly unless you're volunteering to become our dedicated go-to AMD and Linux full time support helper

not really

if you wanna throw us a bone chuck everything in a pastebin or sthing and we'll link it at people

[steady bridge]

I'll clean it up and send it to one of you guys later.
I work full time, but have a lot of experience with that kind of stuff. I'll put a disclaimer with some relevant resources somewhere in it, so DM's to me would be a last resort

[misty mulch]

will keep that in mind

[summer stream]

@uncut hornet which

[uncut hornet]

Sorry, solved.

[novel ruin]

Is there any way to get the current hands position/orientation when something changes it like Weapon Cover Tilt is running?

[covert topaz]

so im doing some icons, what i have to change so icons dont switch back to the old ones when equipping a scope?

[summer stream]

tf?

why does it change?

it shouldn't happen like that

@covert topaz question to the dds file, did you save it in BC3?

AND did you generate mipmaps for it?

[covert topaz]

i use paint.net, i saved as R8G8B8A8 (lineal, A8B8G8R8)

[covert topaz]

nope

and im not modifing the ui_bas_icons file, i created my own and used ico_ltx to overwrite

[covert topaz]

which option is better to save as?

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/стандофф-2-gif-677532936776896754

here is your answer

because it's an LTX file, it will just overwrite the ICON only when it's without anything

the rest will use the one from ui_bas_icon

you should include that it in ltx

[covert topaz]

so how i do that

[summer stream]

check every scope
what section is it in debug
add _[name of the scope]
and then make the icon overwritten

should be like that

[celest forge]

Yeah it's probably overwriting the icon on EVERY scope section

Nice icon tho

[covert topaz]

is from S2, i modified the grip colour only

[covert topaz]

There isnt an easy way to do that is it?

[summer stream]

change the icon in ui_bas

seriously

easier than writing out ton of shit

OR

make the icon overwritten in the gun section

[celest forge]

It's like 5 minutes of copypasting tho lowkey lol

[summer stream]

for me its easier changing the icon

[covert topaz]

Im doing all gun icons

[lilac idol]

just use ctrl + f in notepad

[covert topaz]

So change the gun ltx?

[summer stream]

yea

[celest forge]

Then it's faster to change the icon on the file it self

[covert topaz]

Maybe i could do an dltx for all guns that modifies only that part of the ltx (i dont know if it works like that)

[celest forge]

If the icon is still determined in each scope section

No that wouldn't work

You'd still need to overwrite each scope section for each gun

[shell mantle]

I'm attempting to slow down the NPC snap-turn speed but am having trouble finding this variable. Any one knows which files these might be in? ||i enjoy making small personal QOL changes to my game but this idk how to make actual mods yet so...|| (because in my opinion, npc's turn too inhumanly quick and it reminds me of CS1.6 bots... LOL)

[shell mantle]

||[Also apologies if this is the wrong channel for this, im learning the ways still, only have some experience making models and animations. Like i'm following the guides and all and]|| Im trying to get this model in the game, akin to the 12gTOZ but 3xBarrel and old looking/sawn-off so it can be a Vision slot side-arm with slow reload, like a panic last resort from when you're swarmed by rats. But its supposed to be a "relic" gun so im thinking Sidorovich could have this for cheap with a gnarly crook voice line.

I enjoy making models of fictional guns that look old, but idk of a faction best suited for it

[fair canopy]

How can i get a script to tell if a gun is in alt aim mode or not?

[fair inlet]

lens hider prints zoom type if you edit it to debug

[fair canopy]

ive looked at it but i cant figure out how to use that function

[fair inlet]

wdym
it prints when you change aim mode if debug is true

[fair canopy]

i mean i dont understand how it's getting the zoom type change. I'm not sure what it's doing

[fair inlet]

actor_on_weapon_zoom_type_changed callback has zoom type parameters
you can also use use GetZoomType() instead

[fair canopy]

how do i use getzoomtype?

[fair inlet]

wpn:cast_Weapon():GetZoomType()

what are you trying to do btw

[fair canopy]

so i figured out a way to use adjustable scope hud to give every 3dss scope it's own hud_fov value when you aim

now i'm trying to make it so that if a gun has an alt aim mode and a scope, it uses the iron sights value when in alt aim

do you have time to take a look at the script? its working except for that

[fair inlet]

yes

[fair canopy]

i've commented out the lines related to what i was trying to do to make it easier to find them

everything else is working

also, this goes in configs/items/hud_fov_values

[quasi narwhal]

local alt = weapon:weapon_in_grenade_mode()
local has_gl = utils_item.has_attached_gl(weapon)
    
if alt and has_gl then
  -- has GL and can fire
elseif has_gl then
  -- has GL but is in normal fire mode
elseif alt then
  -- is in alt aim mode
end

[fair canopy]

[quasi narwhal]

I hate editing code on mobile
but this shit should work

[fair canopy]

let me try

unfortunately i cant get that to work either

[fair inlet]

yeah this script is a mess

btw you know it won't work with free zoom right?

[fair canopy]

as in, the whole thing?

and yeah i know the script is a mess, even i could tell that and i have no scirpting knowledge lol

im mostly doing this to set scope huds, not all the other stuff. i figured free zoom would handle it since freezooming was disabled with 3d scopes?

[celest forge]

won't work with free zoom

Good

[fair inlet]

not sure, but I guess it would be better to handle scope hud fov in free zoom

[fair canopy]

the author plays in dx8 though

also i never understood why we have free zoom and scope hud adjust

[fair canopy]

this'll be good for you then

[fair inlet]

grok too lazy to remove deprecated stuff
which is understandable really

[woeful bear]

Fucking baller, I was going to look into this myself after I figure out how to get the sensitivity to compensate in ADS

With how freezoom works it already half does that, but its not fit for purpose

My brain is bleeding. Whats the most no nonsense way to debug / log what a script be doin? Been looking around and messing about in lua console, still lost Nah we good

[hidden mist]

gamma 0.9.3.1 introduced hud fov bug with items and it is driving me insanwe

[fair canopy]

Try switching back to the old free zoom

Or update to the newer version

[random fulcrum]

try removing freezoom

[hidden mist]

bug disappeared for me just as we speak..

But it is super inconsistent (since it is script bug). But when the bug happens, fdda animations stop forcing 0.45hudfov until game restart, and usually items look fine for the first use after game restart, until bug happens

not familiar with scripts but it seems like a script, probably freezoom, is locking hudfov when it shouldnt which breaks the fdda anim script that sets hudfov too?

[brisk crown]

how does one fix the sight of a weapon in vscode? or is there a better way to do it? usp tactical without sights, it's a bit highier than usual (blocking the view)

[woeful bear]

freezoom fucks seems to mostly shit its pants if you don't do this #🔨base-gamma-support message setting the step count to 5 decimal places did help, but the biggest thing would be making sure the adjust scope hud settings match hud_fov

I got this to stop happening completely and idk what I did, but thats some of what I messed around with. Also not using freezoom atm

[fair granite]

these configs affect both dynamic anom spawns and static or just static?

from drx_da_main_artefacts

[drifting moat]

Has anyone tried to attach a debugger to the scripts? I read that it's not cooperating well with LuaJIT, but I also read that you can disable it? My only concern is that the only solution I saw to disable it was through a Lua call which would be too late to do so, innit?

[sudden inlet]

I would pay for a debugger, no jokes. Debugging and reading logs sucks

[sudden inlet]

Only for dynamic. Static have same percent depending on difficulty

[novel ruin]

the newest version of my free Zoom removed hud_fov change on adsing, which is now rely on adjustable scope hud to do the change now, grok is not updated to it tho. Sorry that my god dam mod keeps making everything hard. Kinda regretted making it ngl

[drifting moat]

Yeah when you basically have to simulate a debugger by inserting a trillion debug log calls... it is a pain

[fair granite]

Ty

[somber herald]

is there a way to add more variation to task target scans? I have three fairly similar tasks for Monolith in Pripyat (Conquer the Enemy, Destroy the Enemy, Eliminate Enemy Forces) and they always target the same squad (can be in three different locations, but all three will always target the same one at any given time) and the same map (Jupiter).

it would be great if there was a way to just .. increase variation in targets, or maybe force exclude squads that are already the target of an assault task, but I also considered making separate tasks and putting one each in pripyat, radar and outskirts.

[covert pivot]

should be ways to check if target is already target of another task and not include it

gamma dynamic despawner does some checks like that

tasks_assault.script atleast seems to have target randomizer, but it might be that there just isnt any other valid targets

[somber herald]

[covert pivot]

You can do some debugging with it, look for the validate_assault_task function and log the "targets" table before one value is chosen at random and its cached

[somber herald]

yeah you're right, the random assault tasks definitely randomize, it's just these three that don't. i'll see if I can find the difference.

[covert pivot]

        local target_smart = targets[target_squad]```

assault tasks use this logic

to pick random of possible targets

target can still be one that is already targeted but i guess theres atleast some variance

[covert pivot]

what id are those tasks?

[somber herald]

lider_monolith_haron_task_1, pri_monolith_monolith_trader_stalker_task_1, and simulation_task_36

[covert pivot]

first seems to be assault task

[somber herald]

they all use setup_assault_task

[covert pivot]

yea theyre all assault tasks

they should all use tasks_assault.script

[somber herald]

oh duh, redemption is a bounty task

well, that's a good place to start looking for the difference.

[covert pivot]

Then i recommend just doing this at first

debug the targets list see if theres even more than 1 target possible

[somber herald]

oh yeah, i meant to ask how you log a table

[covert pivot]

utils_data.print_table

[somber herald]

🙏 merci

[covert pivot]

havent used this myself, but should work

[nocturne night]

So it's possible to make this gun in 556, 762 and 300 blackout. Interesting

[summer stream]

dew it.

[nocturne night]

There is already a high quality STG 44 mod

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/lewd-stg44

the only thing would be to make the chambering upgrade to 300 or 762

[fair canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1316605988186357921 framework for that

[narrow stirrup]

Anyone knows how to make survival kit an usable item again? at the moment seems like some kind of container for specific items

[random fulcrum]

the survival kit is a consumable that's akin to an uber medkit in vanilla

you have a mod that overwrites its functionality

[frank flicker]

Hi, i would like to ask. Im trying an new outfit mod, how to i make spawn the new outfit on enemies upon death ? Thanks😁

[slow bolt]

It is a usable item by default

[sudden inlet]

I would say you have to add it to npcs visual first - gamedata\configs\items\settings\death_outfits.ltx

[covert pivot]

thats correct, you have to assign the outfit to npc visuals in that file

[naive plaza]

Anyone know a neat way of adding/changing settings for mods in the load order?
What I want to do Is have a file or set of files with override settings that I just load last in the mod order.
I have for instance a file with weapon edits that I use. It has entries like this:

![wpn_win1886]
ammo_class = ammo_357_hp_mag, ammo_357_hp_mag_bad, ammo_357_hp_mag_verybad
ammo_elapsed = 8
ammo_mag_size = 8
repair_type = shotgun

But If I want to add a similar entry for say the skill_haruka.ltx how do I go about adding an entry for say

[endurance]
max_level = 50

To increase max skill level cap to 50 instead of 30. How would I go about this? Can I do the same things as for weapons?
This is to not have to search around for files and edit them directly and have to redo it every update.