╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[steady venture]

what's the situation on bsg assets? I though they don't allow third parties to use them, yet everyone seems to use them?

[thin kernel]

People will do what they want. The risk is yours to evaluate making a mod with their assets.

[steady venture]

Has there been any action taken si far?

In just surprised since Its included even in big mods like bas

[craggy silo]

As long as what you make isn’t behind a pay wall, they likely won’t take action, worst case scenario is they’ll have the download links taken down

Sites like the nexus won’t host stuff like that, but there are discords that share it

Now if you’re to rip any asset from Nintendo, they would sue your intestines out

[fair canopy]

Everyone uses them. Half of gun mods use some kind of bag asset. Tons of them in bas

You can always rip more too

They can't really stop you

[steady venture]

fair enough, thanks for the clearup

[surreal gust]

.bat files are uses to launch the SDK

You need to use the shader editor if you want to edit .xr files

Keep in mind that it crashes when anomaly .xr files are used

So you need to decompile them

[spiral stone]

Are those bat files in the anomaly sdk in the modding book?

[surreal gust]

No, they're in the SDK itself

Every version of the SDK has a .bat file

0.7 SDK is for CoP and its mods

0.5/0.6 is for Clear Sky

0.4 is for SoC

There's also 0.8 sdk but that's for CoP and its mods like Anomaly.

[spiral stone]

Where can i get the .8 sdk?

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message and by decompliled you mean like this?

[random fulcrum]

that file is a decompiled vanilla anomaly gamemtl.xr

[spiral stone]

Yes correct, so would the .8 sdk work with it?

[random fulcrum]

for what purpose

[spiral stone]

Trying to add footstep sounds for different mutants, instead of javing them share the same types

[random fulcrum]

yeah but why the sdk

just loose load the mod

[spiral stone]

Woukd it be inside the gamedata folder or outside of it? I know the xr file doesn't reside in the gamedata folder

[random fulcrum]

there's a bit of documentation in the modded exes github repo readme

and there's an example in the base anomaly folder, inside gamedata

provided you have the modded exes update that introduced the tech

but it's kinda old by now so you most likely have it

https://github.com/themrdemonized/xray-monolith/blob/all-in-one-vs2022-wpo/gamedata/gamedata/materials/material_pairs.ltx
https://github.com/themrdemonized/xray-monolith/blob/all-in-one-vs2022-wpo/gamedata/gamedata/materials/materials.ltx

[spiral stone]

Okay cool i will have a look. This stuff is so foreign to me so im lost lol

[random fulcrum]

see the directory placement too

better get used to it because doing materials in .xr files is old news

and you'll run into people that complain that it's not compatible with inverno

or with npcs can't see through bushes

(both mods use the compiled method too)

[spiral stone]

Thanks for the heads up👍

[spiral stone]

If its old news then all the better since there may be more material to look at for notes

[spiral stone]

The inverno thing is its own thing but would you happen to know how to make it compatible npc can't see through bushes?

[random fulcrum]

tweak numbers around in the materials

[spiral stone]

👍

Actually, would dltx get around that issue?

[terse mesa]

When changing the configuration of merchants, the money is not replenished after updating the assortment, 48 hours are indicated, but the assortment is replenished, and the money is not replenished.
What kind of injector is there for merchants, how to get the assortment to be updated completely, and not just items.

[lilac idol]

Hi guys, i have been working for a few days now on a vector reanimation and i would appreciate if any of you could take the time to take a look at them in blender. this is the 5th animation pack i have done in 3 days because i hated the previous results but with this one i am getting closer to what i was looking for in the first place. Please if you can i would love getting some feedback and advice as this is my first time animating something in blender and i'm really lacking experience. Please keep in mind that these are far from being finished. I'm also going to be out for about a month so i'm looking for some quick feedback to see what I can fix before I go.
I also have some questions regarding the animations:

• Do i have to do an especific animation for shooting and having recoil or does Grok's Enhanced Recoil take care of that?
• What is the difference between anm_show and anm_hide? Is the show animation the one for drawing the weapon and the hide one for lowering it?
• Do i have to do a running animation or can i just use the lowered position as the running animation? This one is kind of related to the one above
• This might sound weird, but how can i make the animations smoother but also have more "weight" to them? Should i spam it with keyframes and tweak them one by one?
• For animations such as firemode switch, do I have to do an animation for both firemodes (Full-Auto->Semi and Semi->Full-Auto)? Same question for the aiming animation, lowering and the draw animation
• Do I need to add some sort of sway to the animations or does the weapon sway included in gamma do that already?

[slow bolt]

you might want to also post in modding arts section in anomaly discord

has professional animators there who could share advice

[lilac idol]

will do, thank you👍

[lilac idol]

slowly making some more progress

[prime pecan]

N1. Where you get a stalker hands rig?

[prime pecan]

nvm, found it

[celest forge]

If your gun has moving parts that move during the animation, yes you have to make a shooting animation, Enhanced Recoil just moves the camera, not the physical gun itself

show is when you draw the weapon and hide is were you holster it

If you're doing it just for gamma, no running anim is fine since it uses the forced lowered animation for the run

You can only have one firemode switch animation

if by sway you mean aim sway, then yeah there is a bit in engine but if you want to add one via an idle aim anim it's valid too, that's up to preference

Stuff such as "weight" can't be really describred or explained how to be added, is just a thing that you get right by practicing over and over till it looks right, but i'd suggest trying to animate with the graph editor, that gives a more visual representation of what the different axis are doing

[jade oxide]

u can disable it adding exclusion line in the script, except if you tell me grok removed this ability to force ppl to use lowered

[celest forge]

I have never seen a person playing gamma that had actual running animations

And the average gamma user can't even add a separator in MO2 so I don't think many of them are changing scripts

[lilac idol]

thank you for the explanation👍

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-11663223

[lilac idol]

so other than the hide and show animation i have to do another separate position for lowering the gun?

[onyx shadow]

this dark blue sights are disturbing for me, how can i change it's color ?

[surreal gust]

Average gunslinger "ports" in anomaly

Why not port the entire fucking thing

I want to actually SEE details

Not some fucking animations

[celest forge]

That's not from Gunslinger tho

That's the Voight or whatever from PPP

[fair canopy]

[random fulcrum]

not quite

the model is different enough from regular ppp

[onyx shadow]

[pliant ledge]

anyone have an issue with kvmas and azetrix merge mod where the hand model quality is janky in first person?

seems worse than standard models lol

[limpid rose]

Using THAP 2.2 by any chance?

Or just the one that comes with gamma?

[lofty island]

is there a way to change some of the stim animations like the epinepherine and other like it to that of the morphine ampule/glucose shot?

[regal bolt]

imo hitbox collision needs an overhaul in general, notice how bad the camera snaps around models when scooting by?

Reworked object collision would fix a lot but most notably mutants being softlocked on everything under the sun tbh

not hitbox i meant collision box

lol

[lofty island]

oops wrong channel

[frozen edge]

I am not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but the bumpy surface issue, for inclines, only exists travelling on the East-West axis, not the North-South axis. This is, as far as I understand, a pretty common issue in game dev. I can’t exactly remember, but it’s probably something to do with either the interpolation of movement in that particular orientation, like the ordering of the movement calcs is favourable travelling NS rather than EW, or something similar to that, any kind of movement/interp order of operations quirk.

[celest forge]

Anyone knows what the model of strelok is named in the files

nvm found it

[valid ocean]

Can someone make a badass tactical crossbow mod? I think it would fit in stalker gamma and it would be great if it was sold by hunting sellers

[wispy ferry]

yes, there is, a mod exists for that, https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/fdda-stimpack-changer-dltx
I've not tested changing things from it, but it should be a case of just replacing the item and animation the code calls for

so if I'm not mistaken it would be

snd = interface\item_usage\injector_using
anm = item_ea_morphine
animspeed = 1.63
tm = 7500```
and then tweak the animspeed and tm to make it look good and not leave you inactionable too long (or too short)

basic DLTX edits like that are easy, if you know what you want to change and what values to use

[lilac idol]

what do you guys think about this one?

[lilac idol]

little upgrade

[surreal gust]

https://youtu.be/Vfz5e1d3lR0

scam alert

don't fall for it, plz

the "players" are just ai with custom waypoints

"it's just high ping, guys!!!!!"

yeah, those bot comments are surely legit

[slow bolt]

Interesting commenters on the video indeed

[celest forge]

How do you connect to the same server

Like how do you sync up with a friend to connect to the same run

[slow bolt]

Hash functions

duh

[random fulcrum]

it's still one hell of a powermove to move the snake oil to where idiots are abundant and are willing to buy

[slow bolt]

Obvious move

ngl i think Grok should do an announcement

[random fulcrum]

yeah

[slow bolt]

otherwise idiots will believe

Cant wait for drewski to talk about this lmfao

[random fulcrum]

@undone lily can you post a forewarning in #📢announcements about this fucking grifter before people lose their money

because if he only gets a slap on the wrist "don't talk about the scam nor your discord server here" it's not gonna stop people from getting the videos in their recommended feeds on youtube and buying into it

god forbid a large youtuber falls for it

[wary scroll]

Hi
I want to know how I can open db files ?

[slow bolt]

Yeah his mp video is pretty high in the search

[slow bolt]

Unpacker in anomaly/tools

[celest forge]

You can unpack them with the unpacker tool included in the anomaly folder

[random fulcrum]

unpacker_all gives you every asset stored in anomaly's .db files

unpacker gives you only text files

[wary scroll]

I saw the vid
And dude that guy is not a real player just look at this shit !
And he says I have bad ping
How when you trying to do a local shit your ping ganna be worse?
Truly a big scam and look at the bot comments from the vid

And thanks for help also

I mean . . .
You know I think give this guys a little warning
Cause I think if someone from discord gets excited about this and then pay money for it they are gonna trigger here first in my believe
I know it makes no sense but you can guess so
They will leave here or something like that

[surreal gust]

Just ban this mofo

He's lurking around the official stalker server too

[limpid rose]

Guy even kicked me from his discord server for warning people here

Not like that’s gonna work, I have more than enough eyes in there

[surreal gust]

Ok, it looks like the official stalker server is retarded

Mfs are falling for the radmp scam

[regal bolt]

how do i make a mod that makes the player play a specific faction on new game start

ie it sets a specific faction in the new game menu and disables the faction selector menu

or do i just remove it altogether lmao

[slow bolt]

He posted there?

[celest forge]

Why tho

[surreal gust]

Yeah

[celest forge]

Just pick the same faction every time

[slow bolt]

send me the invite if you can

[celest forge]

It takes 2 seconds

[slow bolt]

i'll go call it a scam once more

[surreal gust]

Go to the screens and videos channel

He posted it there

I can't send sufficent proof because I'm on my phone

[slow bolt]

oh, you didnt get fucked for posting an invite

[surreal gust]

I'll remove it

Did you join?

It looks like you're in my mutuals list, I'll remove it

[slow bolt]

it already ended

[slow bolt]

Was pretty sure it was automated

[surreal gust]

I removed it

I know

That mf thinks radmp is real

[slow bolt]

But yeah theres multiple people who think its real and shit on people who prove it aint

[surreal gust]

I already sent proof in their dms, but they didn't bother checking

[slow bolt]

and i thought gamma players would be the worst

[surreal gust]

It's pretty clear that they're fucking morons

I sent proof to one of the mods, I'm waiting for his response

[slow bolt]

i just cant

[fair canopy]

Think he was paid off?

[random fulcrum]

nah imo the guy just genuinely believes

which is why i always say that monokit is pulling off the easiest scams ever

you instantly buy everyone by promising coop for stalker

because it's something people have always wanted

besides maybe the stalker discord is just unaware of monokit's past schemes

[vernal epoch]

impossible for everyone to be clued in after all

[random fulcrum]

exactly

[lilac idol]

i think im starting to get the hang of this

[slow bolt]

Not bad ngl

still robotic

but good for non-shooter games

[lilac idol]

yeah im trying to make it less robotic

[celest forge]

I would do a shorter b2i

[surreal gust]

Retards I tell ya.

[lilac idol]

what's a b2i?

[celest forge]

back to idle

[lilac idol]

yeah it might be worth a try

[nocturne hatch]

been out a while and saw grok's announcement about the terrain differences causing problems. if he's talking about what i think he is talking about then, I just wanted to add my little bit of outside knowledge to the mix.
from what i remember the really annoying terrain bumping and player slow downs is an inherent problem with the engine the original code was created off of. anomaly's code was written off of the original open sourced code and has this same flaw.
really the only way to fix it is to rewrite the base code from the ground up and I would speculate that efforts would be better spent moving anomaly into unreal 5 than to fix the base code.

[slow bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894266051485917214.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=CLe_StareW

[lilac idol]

do you guys think this is any better?

[slow bolt]

a bit

last motion is still too smooth

[remote hamlet]

We need some thread or something for people who wanna work on a multiplayer mod

Cuz fuck the scammer

and if we ever want the mod to happen we need to work together on it

[surreal gust]

Glock W

Thank you for the post in #📢announcements

[slow bolt]

[remote hamlet]

I got a idea of how it can work by looking at a couple mods

[surreal gust]

Lmao that's not how it works

Adding Multiplayer IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT

Read this

[slow bolt]

oh no

hash functions return

[remote hamlet]

I'm thinking of trying the way bonelab does it

Instead of doing EVERYTHING done on the server

do the minimal

[surreal gust]

Read this if you want to know why multiplayer in anomaly is difficult

It would take YEARS to do this

[remote hamlet]

The way he talks about is different

[surreal gust]

Not 10 years like RoH

they ain't blind as you expect.

🤓

[remote hamlet]

You don't have to make a headless server

[surreal gust]

??

[remote hamlet]

I was thinking more of replicating the bare minimum

[surreal gust]

Wdym blind in a playthrough?

[remote hamlet]

like bomlab does

[surreal gust]

I never said it wasn't possible

You're just using bots lmao

Using custom waypoints and scripts

To imitate players

And? How does that magically prove that it's real

"o wait lemme open radmin vpn and people will believe me"

[slow bolt]

rip radmin vpn

[arctic arch]

Aaaand there they go.

[remote hamlet]

Basic multiplayer is not hard

prefect multiplayer is

I don't strive for perfect multiplayer

[slow bolt]

[surreal gust]

His ass got banned?

[remote hamlet]

I strive for playable multiplayer

[arctic arch]

Yup, just now.

[vernal epoch]

yup

[surreal gust]

ah, don't worry, he's gonna create alts

[arctic arch]

Also had their messages deleted within a certain range.

[surreal gust]

Multiplayer in stalker is very different

It doesn't work like that

[slow bolt]

he already has one

[remote hamlet]

You don't have to replicate everything

[vernal epoch]

given that he got the number of mods in mo2 wrong, his alts are going to be funnily obvious

[surreal gust]

Ik

[arctic arch]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-hidino-it-could-be-you-it-coud-be-me-gif-23428091

[surreal gust]

You can't just add multiplayer

[remote hamlet]

You can in small steps

Replicated player positions only

then basic npc replication

then inventory replication

and keep doing the important bits

things will be missing

but a giant core is there atleast

missions might not be synced and many others

[slow bolt]

You forgot synchronization of all that

that is aids

[surreal gust]

nice damage control

[slow bolt]

That is why servers are a thing

[remote hamlet]

Handle it like older games

one player is host

is what I was thinking

[surreal gust]

If it was THAT simple we would have had multiplayer YEARS ago

Xrmpe supports co-op, but it's only for Cop

[remote hamlet]

then every amount of time send a packet of the Position, Velocity, MoveDirection

[surreal gust]

Honestly, people are scared to do engine edits

[remote hamlet]

its because not many people know how to make a server that sends data to clients

[timber cedar]

P2P multi is honestly just gonna be harder to sync and also worse overall having made both Client/Server and P2P multi models for games

[remote hamlet]

you don't need to edit the engine at all

[surreal gust]

You do

Anomaly removed MP code

[timber cedar]

very false lol

[surreal gust]

Most of it

[remote hamlet]

You can make a external program that puts data into a txt and then the lua script reads it

[timber cedar]

no, no you can't

[remote hamlet]

how do you think the one stalker chat room mod did it

[surreal gust]

They said they're gonna remove all of MP code in 1.6

[remote hamlet]

A mod already did that

[timber cedar]

For something that does literally no multiplayer code

[remote hamlet]

iostream can read/edit txts

[surreal gust]

That's not how it works

[slow bolt]

yeah okay

to the hash functions you go

you might as well stop

[timber cedar]

Go learn basic programming standards pls before trying to talk about this

[remote hamlet]

If you can read/edit from a txt then whats stopping you

[vernal epoch]

massive difference between an irc and a multiplayer engine

[remote hamlet]

from interacting with a external program

[vernal epoch]

Like

[random fulcrum]

is this the hash functions guy or is it a new name

[vernal epoch]

Incredibly massive

[remote hamlet]

I'm different from the other guy

I want to make a project we all work on

[valid igloo]

[remote hamlet]

You can make a external program that creates a whole server and system to receive data

[random fulcrum]

ah you're the i need a dev team guy

[remote hamlet]

and funnel it into stalker anomaly via io stream

[remote hamlet]

no

[surreal gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127783431292592178/1136436391761428580/FRBqJ_9WYAIF19b.png?ex=669b9b9d&is=669a4a1d&hm=1d798c09771407a999d14894036a6ac9645e4837965f7becaf199c030d43b67c&

[random fulcrum]

then it's a new guy

[remote hamlet]

You don't need to focus on every detail

if you try that it will never get done

[surreal gust]

That doesn't mean it's easy

[remote hamlet]

Its possible

[slow bolt]

new guy

possibly an alt

[surreal gust]

Plus the MP code from GSC sucks anyway

[remote hamlet]

The only parts that are easy is something like replicating the player positions alone

[remote hamlet]

I aint an alt

I don't support the other guy who was close sourcing his project

[surreal gust]

monokit's english sucks

[normal urchin]

where would I find inventory rendering, in ui_inventory.script? kinda wanna play with the idea of adding a bit of a line break in between item categories (if its even possible)

[surreal gust]

It's not an alt

[remote hamlet]

But from my understanding you don't have to modify the engine to work with multiplayer
as you can have a external program handle the sending and receiving data and then put data into a txt
and use io stream to read from that file aswell as use iostream to edit to a file that the program can read from

[slow bolt]

just no

that is High School CS implementation of a server

that doesnt work for games

[remote hamlet]

Would it not work?

It is quite a janky implementation

But it does allow communication outside stalker

so you can make your own server system

Unless Anomaly has another way we can use to better communicate outside stalker via a mod

[slow bolt]

Yeah it would be omega janky and barely work if at all

that is just sending messages between the users

doing 0 syncing

I made a game using that server

its a very bad idea

[remote hamlet]

User sends message to server then server sends messages to all clients

after an amount of time has passed

say 0.05 seconds

[surreal gust]

You will have to do engine edits

[remote hamlet]

and it read it every set amount of time

[surreal gust]

Anomaly 1.5.2 doesn't almost have any MP code

[random fulcrum]

and 1.6 is completely removing it

[surreal gust]

1.6 will remove it entirely

[remote hamlet]

The only thing we need is a way to communicate outside of stalker quickly

[vernal epoch]

communicate what

[remote hamlet]

Data

[vernal epoch]

cause without any engine level code, you cant get that data

[remote hamlet]

of vectors and such

[remote hamlet]

Well you can use iostream

to write to a txt

[vernal epoch]

Which gets information from where

[remote hamlet]

A mod can use io stream to right to a txt

and a external program being the server and client and read that

and the external program can send data to another txt

which the mod can read from

[slow bolt]

Have you ever made a project that syncs data between players?

[wary scroll]

And who's gonna pay for servers rent ? Grok ? You ? Me ?

[random fulcrum]

come to stalker gamma discord we have:

hash functions | i need a dev team | vector communication
a fucking grifter

[remote hamlet]

On a proper game engine Yes but not from scratch

[vernal epoch]

My dude, how is your io stream going to get the data

[slow bolt]

I did 2

[remote hamlet]

its about recreating the tools

[slow bolt]

what you are saying is stupid

[vernal epoch]

if the engine doesn't have an api for it

just saying a mod doesn't explain anything

[remote hamlet]

If we don't try we won't know

[random fulcrum]

then try kid

try

[remote hamlet]

You have IOstream which allows writing and editing to txts

[random fulcrum]

tell us about it when you're finished

maybe ask for donations and early access

[vernal epoch]

Like you've got 3 people who work with mods and the engine telling you that you need engine level edits to do what you're saying

and you're just repeating the same thing and saying edits aren't needed

[remote hamlet]

That already said you wouldn't but its not the best

Chernobyl Relay Chat Rebirth has communication between clients albeit through a chatroom service

[slow bolt]

I even made my own game with MP using somethign similar to his method, when studying

its just terrible

[remote hamlet]

How big of MP was it

[slow bolt]

Yeah of just mesages

nothing else

You need to send loads of data and sync it all

anyway, lets let you dev it

[vernal epoch]

crcr is literally built on preexisting irc framework

[slow bolt]

come back later and tell us of your progress

[remote hamlet]

I said that

[vernal epoch]

You're talking about a game with none of that in place

[remote hamlet]

It uses a prmade system

[vernal epoch]

its not a plug and play solution

crc specifically doesn't read shit from your game, and rather injects a message box into your game with the messages being displayed on that

You can see that from how you dont need the game open to use crc

[remote hamlet]

If you have a external program that can send and recive data

[vernal epoch]

was it fun?

[slow bolt]

Figuring out MP wasnt

rest was

It was a game on OpenGL

[vernal epoch]

thats impressive

[slow bolt]

Not really

[wary scroll]

@remote hamlet look my friend
They're not saying it is completely impossible to do this
But look at this game
Look at gamma
When you look at this game and gamma you see lots of time many different people put
Gamma made with mods and also edited the base game also a lot
So if you want to make this coop
You need to do this from scratch especially from the first step which needs a lot of time to spend and the final result gonna be so shit
Just look at modern games and big companies
They're struggling with the coop system specially with modern engines
Just think about all of this there's still a lot more

Just leave this idea stalker 2 almost out

[remote hamlet]

I'm taking the approach bonelab/boneworks multiplayer mods did

To not try and replicate everything

Replicate the main attraction

the npcs and player locations

map the npcs into ids

so shooting them can replicate across

so you have a basic experience with friends

so no matter how many mods you have it would work even if not everything is seen

modded weapons would appear as some random gun but it would function the same because the client is calculating the damage and hit detection

Is it heavily hackable? yes

[surreal gust]

Also

The engine IS FROM 1999

[remote hamlet]

but it has the main bits there at the very least

[random fulcrum]

that's a pill very few people are willing to swallow

[surreal gust]

And ZE game was being developed SINCE 2001

[random fulcrum]

nobody wants to believe it's from mid 1999

[remote hamlet]

The main bit is sending data between clients for now

[random fulcrum]

inb4 something about other contemporary engines doing multiplayer

[surreal gust]

It could be older

Even if it isnt from 1999

The first builds of oblivions lost were on 2001

So, it probably took them years to develop the engine

[random fulcrum]

ye

the oldest archived build of xray is from 1999

[surreal gust]

Even the OpenXRay devs said that it's from 1999

[random fulcrum]

it's super low on version numbers

but it might not be the start

[remote hamlet]

I'm not planning to make the game recieve or send data to a server though

thats what the external program does

The mod only uses the info from the program

and sends to the program

[surreal gust]

Finding first working builds of xray is difficult

I'm not talking about oblivion lost

[slow bolt]

okay pls make it

its getting old

[surreal gust]

It could be from 1998, but who knows

[remote hamlet]

I'll try my best

[slow bolt]

we cant keep talking same points for an hour

take the hash functions guy with ya

[remote hamlet]

Aint he the one that has his multiplayer close source?

Thats one issue why we don't have multiplayer

[slow bolt]

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

he is you

[remote hamlet]

Reminds me of boneworks

People thought it would be impossible to make a multiplayer mod for

many tried

and got some progress and stopped there

[surreal gust]

Remember the guy who said he wanted to add mp to anonaly

But he said he was 13

[remote hamlet]

until one group came together

[surreal gust]

💀

[remote hamlet]

Have you guys tried making multiplayer?

or a system to send data between servers in anomaly

have you tried even a little

You will never know if its possible or not without trying

[slow bolt]

why are you continuing

we already decided you are trying it for us

[remote hamlet]

The whole point is to work together

combine knowlage where some lack

[surreal gust]

Lmao

I don't want to yap but

[vernal epoch]

thats... not a compelling argument to get people on board with a project that is doomed to fail

[surreal gust]

I'm only a mapper

Not a coder

[slow bolt]

You seem to disregard all knowledge given to ya in this channel

[vernal epoch]

your start point for a collaboration project should be proof of concept

[remote hamlet]

The people at boneworks thought their multiplayer was doomed to fail but they tried anyways

[vernal epoch]

ie: show up with tech demo and recruit not recruit before anything is done

[remote hamlet]

They had to make a fully physics based vr game multipayer

[surreal gust]

Have you ever used the SDK before?

[remote hamlet]

They had to make their own

well

[vernal epoch]

Gonna be real, Boneworks isn't built out of duct tape and spit

[surreal gust]

I'm talking about X-Ray sdk

[remote hamlet]

not the people making mp

but the modders them selves

[vernal epoch]

And comparing game engines is completely stupid

[surreal gust]

That's not how it works

[remote hamlet]

Its the amount of data

[surreal gust]

A multiplayer level is made by adding rpoints inside

Each of them has a selected gamemode

Whether it be tdm, tm, ah, and more

Then you add some finishing touches, and compile the spawns

[remote hamlet]

I'm not using the xray multiplayer

[surreal gust]

I'm talking about the level editor

[vernal epoch]

Long story short: show up with proof of concept if you want anyone to take you seriously

[surreal gust]

This is how you were intended to add MP maps to SoC, CS, and CoP

[remote hamlet]

Thats what I was originally doing

But then that one guy working on multiplayer

[surreal gust]

xrMPE levels work differently

They use custom groups for their own gamemode (defence)

Idk how co-op levels work there, but I think it's the same procedure as with the previous method

[lilac idol]

what about now?

[slow bolt]

Looks worse

i think

[lilac idol]

[slow bolt]

Like it is too clean how he inserts the mag

[vernal epoch]

the dudes movements are too perfect

[lilac idol]

alright im taking a look

[vernal epoch]

need a little more human factor imo

[lilac idol]

should i get rid of that little mag flip?

like this?

[slow bolt]

better

you almost got this

[lilac idol]

glad to hear that, do you see any other important flaws?

[slow bolt]

after the mag is inserted

its a bit too smooth after

but honestly its harder to point out now

[lilac idol]

ok i'll be back in a min

[slow bolt]

Also the second arm i noticed

its completely still

[lilac idol]

yeah i know, i haven't worked on that one yet

is this what you meant?

shit i forgot to cut the vid

[wary scroll]

Just my opinion
It looks good
Maybe add a little animation to the second arm, not much just a little when he put the mag
And when he put the mag with left hand make it a little harder like he is trying to make sure it's completely on
But it's already good
Maybe try it in game for see what you down
It's better

[slow bolt]

a bit better

but it doesnt seem like it changed

[lilac idol]

i made the spaces between hands movement a bit thicker

[slow bolt]

You can get away with simpler animations if you go for the realistic approach

[slow bolt]

Oh i think i see what you mean

[lilac idol]

especially on the bolt-catch

[slow bolt]

yeah you know what its good

It improved a lot

it doesnt seem robotic no mo

It passed the uncanny valley

[lilac idol]

yeah, shame is i got no time to release it until next month

btw thank you for taking your time with this, really helped me out

[fair canopy]

add a little push up when the mag is inserted

maybe a pause for a frame or two with a little wiggle before the mag goes in

[slow bolt]

its already there

[fair canopy]

ah it is

[slow bolt]

Abiotic factor gun reloads with low reload skill be like:

[fair canopy]

too much vodka

and cocaine

[random fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961738167537512523/1008176301095526450/mw_reload.gif

[slow bolt]

I tried to find a vid

but couldnt

its funny

[surreal gust]

Bas animations be like

Autism reload

[wary scroll]

It's looks good

[lilac idol]

btw i added i little animation to the right index finger, should i add something else to the right arm?

[lilac idol]

thank you man🫂

[lilac idol]

got back to tweaking the normal reload

need some opinions on this one, there's something wrong with it but i can't tell what it is

[slow bolt]

the 0.03s in which he rotates the gun into ready position after the reload

[lilac idol]

right, fixing it

i feel like its still off

[slow bolt]

what did you change?

its still way too fast

also its laggy?

[lilac idol]

basically made the rotation step longer so that it would slow down

[slow bolt]

Its everything after the mag is inserted

the rotation is too smooth

too robotic

[lilac idol]

is it any better?

[slow bolt]

How the arm slides to the position is too smooth. left arm

[slow bolt]

also your mag moves before it is released

[lilac idol]

i forgot to do the mag lol

i need to do the hand properly still

[lilac idol]

which hand positioning speed is better?

[slow bolt]

First

[slow bolt]

dis

[lilac idol]

ok, any other flaws that you may have spotted?

[slow bolt]

the lag and skipped frames

[lilac idol]

ill take a look

where do you feel its laggy?

[slow bolt]

look at the video

you can see the stutters

[wary scroll]

Hey
Got a question
I was using like 20 visual packs which I removed any part I didn't need and then I packed all of them
Is that heavy in game ?

[slow bolt]

what is heavy?

[slow bolt]

Still looks choppy

do you not see it?

[lilac idol]

i think it might be discord or the video itself

[lilac idol]

yeah i see it here

but not in blender, the one that i could see has been fixed

[wary scroll]

Like packing all of them together
They 20gb now
Should I load them one by one like they was or it's okay ?
Also I got a little problem alongside
I have some huge stutters in the game which makes my game almost freez
Wasn't like this idk why this happened

[slow bolt]

there is no difference

[lilac idol]

hopefully there's less stutter now

[wary scroll]

I see
And about the stutter I use arrival which is so so heavy after new SSS update
Is there anyway cutting away the volumetric lights from this mod ?

[slow bolt]

I mean is they are not present in the source then its jsut the video

[slow bolt]

!support

[queen pine]

@wary scroll If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[lilac idol]

well do you see any other thing other than the stutter?

[slow bolt]

You jsut dump the mag instead of putting it in your pouch

otherwise not really

[lilac idol]

i did it like that because the magwell in the vector is really high and it made the animation look bad

[wary scroll]

I know I know
I'm saying this mod has volumetric from SSS
Is there anyway cutting the volumetric away from arrival?
That's why I'm asking at this channel cause it's about doing this stuffs

[lilac idol]

i wanted to make it a proper "dual" reload but that magwell makes things quite difficult

[lilac idol]

these are the only ones i got left plus the unjam, with a ton of luck i'll try to release it on sunday if i can

[tired apex]

Anyone got any progress on the Stalker bug "movement over surfaces that is way too bumpy. The player is slowed down by every tiny ground difference and it’s really annoying. " ?

[regal bolt]

I found an add on for m24 replacer, but the sound for racking the bolt is offset by a second or two. Is there a way that I could fix that manually?

[onyx shadow]

Is there a way to change the animation of AK105-shakal ?

[celest forge]

A way? Sure

[onyx shadow]

i dont get it

[stoic lichen]

Hi everyone, I'm trying to change the repair_min_condition to 0 and have placed the item_repair file at the bottom of the load order, but it's not working other value like repair amount gain work fine ...

[wispy ferry]

slightly dumb suggestion, but try and change it to 1% (or whatever value would be equivalent to it) since it's possible 0 is read by the engine as maximum or w/e

[lilac idol]

you can either make your own animations or port other gun's animations to the desired weapon

[onyx shadow]

that sounds complicated XD

damn

[lilac idol]

well if you use 3dss the shakal animation has been changed to the one from Phant0m's weapons

[stoic lichen]

hi, i tried it too, not work, like there's something that overwritten the value

[wispy ferry]

in that case, right click the mod in MO2 and check the Information... thing, see if any of the files are directly overwritten
alternatively, make like many modders do and put several Zs in the name of your file

[onyx shadow]

thanks a lot, it looks sick

[remote hamlet]

Is it not possible to have multiple versions of stalker anomaly open?

anyway to bypass that?

[remote hamlet]

I got a basic system to send a message from a client to a server and then to all the other connected clients

but I can't test it fully without loading all games at once

[surreal gust]

There's a problem...

Monokits bullshit project actually works.

One of the helpers from stalker server told me that

He tested it with him

However, all of the assets that monokit uses is FREE and not his.

[slow bolt]

doubt

[surreal gust]

It did.

[slow bolt]

i think he scammed the helper

[surreal gust]

How would you think so?

[slow bolt]

otherwise he would actually provide proof

[surreal gust]

Lemme ask for that

[slow bolt]

inb4 another video from one client

with mega lag and sorry guys

[surreal gust]

He'll send screenshots and a video

He had to upload them via google drive

[surreal gust]

I'll send you the video link when he uploads in dms

It's 3 mins long

[slow bolt]

k

[surreal gust]

The only problem he said that there's a ping issue

That's sus to me

[slow bolt]

ofc there is

his second dev lives in siberia

[surreal gust]

He played with monokit.

[slow bolt]

even though devs make plenty of money

[surreal gust]

At least that's what he told me

[vernal epoch]

Did they transition maps?

[surreal gust]

I don't think so

I don't have the proof yet

[vernal epoch]

Will wait. Just gotta remember that the pvp mp that's always been around in the ogs would be enough to figure out how to copy that (badly) and fake true co-op still

[surreal gust]

Although, keep in mind that the assets are NOT his

All of them are for FREE

[vernal epoch]

yea, thats a big thing too

[slow bolt]

eh

not really

[vernal epoch]

depends on license sure, but dono walling for other people's free work is...

[slow bolt]

A tale as old as time

[surreal gust]

Anomaly assets aren't his

That's also a problem

They never gave him permission

The client has only 1 exe and thats for dx11

[remote hamlet]

what type of assets?

like libraries?

or

[surreal gust]

Literally everything from anomaly

[slow bolt]

The entire anomaly

[surreal gust]

And he uses X-Ray OMP MP code

[slow bolt]

Ah see so he didnt actually do it

[remote hamlet]

I asked and he told me he modified the anomaly engine

[slow bolt]

even if he did

[surreal gust]

He just copy and pasted the code lmao

That's not effort

[remote hamlet]

???

[surreal gust]

That's called using an asset that's not his

[remote hamlet]

Wait what are you talking about

[surreal gust]

X-Ray OMP

It's literally what he uses

[slow bolt]

where proof

[remote hamlet]

Isn't mp code only a basic shooter gamemode

with no npcs

[surreal gust]

X-Ray OMP is specialized for multiplayer

[remote hamlet]

no inventory replication

oh

Oooooh

[surreal gust]

There's a github link on it

[remote hamlet]

not the base xray multiplayer

[surreal gust]

Yeah

That shit sucks

[remote hamlet]

Who told you that it uses x-ray omp

[surreal gust]

1.5.2 barely has any multiplayer code left

Lvutner

One of anomaly devs

[remote hamlet]

or wait

[slow bolt]

where

when

[surreal gust]

Last year in the anomaly discord

There's a forum about MP, like co-op, etc

[slow bolt]

So he's been trying to make xray omp code work

[surreal gust]

That's where he probably said that monokit used X-Ray OMP

[slow bolt]

for a year?

[surreal gust]

It already works.

[slow bolt]

aight post the vid

enough yappin

[surreal gust]

I didn't get the link yet

[remote hamlet]

Of gamma coop?

[surreal gust]

No

Base X-Ray omp is for CoP

Not anomaly

[remote hamlet]

Oh your talkin about that

[surreal gust]

Yes

You can just install it if you have CoP

You don't have to do engine edits

[remote hamlet]

Is it possible to open multiple instances of stalker anomaly?

at once

the launcher just closes for when when trying to launch a second one

and I'm trying to test the message networking fully ingame

on my custom networking mod

For now it just spawns underwear for the other clients when you press a button

I just need to clean a couple stuff up and then I can replicate player positions

[surreal gust]

Try to open it within exes

[remote hamlet]

I did

It opens the launcher

or is there a non launcher exe

[surreal gust]

Not the launcher

There is

[remote hamlet]

Ah

[surreal gust]

Inside the bin folder

[remote hamlet]

I found it

Thanks

[surreal gust]

Np

[remote hamlet]

I think I can package the networking functions and stuff in its own mod

and then have the player replication stuff in its own mod

that depends off it

so you could make other networked stuff like for example

maybe a server based stach mod

that doesn't have to have the entire stuff with the replicated players

Once I get the basics down of the player movement I'll release what I have

[young hemlock]

Hi

I wanna make a mod that puts new fights into arena after reaching master rank, higher chance of kill contracts, perhaps some new, exclusive items in the shop, and the ability to bet money on other stalkers, and for all that to be compatible with gamma

[ruby dust]

where can i find crafting recipes?

[pulsar flame]

Right now, I'm trying to make an adjustment mod for the Cold System 0.6 mod

for some reason though, the mod doesn't work whenever my mod's enabled

I have it right below the Cold System mod in MO2

anyone know why it's not working?

the meta.ini file is there

and I'm just modifying one file

[lilac idol]

maybe it's not dltx'd properly

[pulsar flame]

the cold_system.script file

[pulsar flame]

do I have to DLTX an adjustment to a mod?

I'm just modifying a file that's already in the mod

just overwriting it with new code

one of the scripts

[lilac idol]

I mean as far as I know dltx is useful for overriding values and stuff

so maybe you should use dltx

[pulsar flame]

Here's the mods if you want to take a look

[pulsar flame]

I modified a .script file

but I'll go ahead and check the DLTX files rq

[slow bolt]

you failed at modifying it then

made it not load

[pulsar flame]

I think that much is obvious XD

my question is, why?

[lilac idol]

oh if it's not an ltx then I'm not sure

[pulsar flame]

the mod itself works

I just added and modified certain vales

*values

and made sure the edit the others accordingly

[ruby dust]

sorry but where can i find the crafting recipes for bhsro?

[pulsar flame]

BHSRO?

what's that?

is it the GAMMA recipes overhaul thing?

[lilac idol]

no, a bhs rework

[pulsar flame]

ah

[slow bolt]

gamedata/configs/items/settings

[ruby dust]

thanks

[pulsar flame]

so anyways does anyone know what I did wrong?

the mod doesn't appear to use DLTX

it just uses XML and .script files

maybe I missed something in the script

I'll take another look ig

[lilac idol]

I don't think you can dltx a script file

sorry for the confusion

well maybe you can dxml it

[ruby dust]

does 4 mean the outcome? like 4 will be crafted?

[lilac idol]

idk if that would make any difference tbh

[pulsar flame]

how do I do that though?

I'm just wondering

cus it's not working and I have no idea why

[lilac idol]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dxml.html

[pulsar flame]

maybe

[lilac idol]

take a look at it

[pulsar flame]

you can check the in-game crafing recipes to find out

[slow bolt]

probably category

sadly i forgot

[pulsar flame]

you can just cross-verify multiple items with the in-game recipes to find out what it is

if it fits for all those items then you know that's what the value is for

also, can you guys maybe take a look at my code and let me know if there's a mistake somewhere?

[ruby dust]

i checked, it wasnt outcome

then where does outcome get decided?

[lilac idol]

I believe the outcome depends on the size of a single item

take for example an ammo box

[pulsar flame]

4 might be an item ID

or it might be the place it takes in the crafting ui

based on how all the crafting options are ordered on the screen

[ruby dust]

oh yeah that makes sense,

[pulsar flame]

maybe it's either the fifth or fourth item

that's shown

and that's why that value is 4

or the other way around, rather

[lilac idol]

yeah I believe it's just where it is located in the workbench, for example ammo is 5 and is one step below medical

I'm pretty sure actually

[pulsar flame]

or there's that too

[surreal gust]

Sent him more proof and monokits ass got banned

[pulsar flame]

that does make more snese

*sense

[slow bolt]

still no link?

[pulsar flame]

4 probably defines the section that it's from

and then the second parameter specifies what kit is required to make it

tbh that's the most likely explanation from what I can see

[lilac idol]

yeah this pretty much proves it https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1264075453002551388

[surreal gust]

Nope

He's uploading by his phone

[lilac idol]

at the end of the second message

[pulsar flame]

yep i have the game open and Medical is the 5th section from the top

[surreal gust]

He said that it was hanging

[pulsar flame]

Ammo is right below at 6th

so that's what it means then

[slow bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/963935636379820044.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=Y_dead

[pulsar flame]

wait

alr so ig I can edit the crafting recipes if I want now

nice

not dealing with that yet though

still got a broken mod to deal with

ah well

time to go back to looking at code

[lilac idol]

good luck tho

[pulsar flame]

thx

I'll probably need it lol

imma check out that DXML documentation too

bound to have smth useful

[upbeat skiff]

missing commas in lines 53-54

[pulsar flame]

Thank you for that, apparently my stupid ass missed it XD

and when I looked I found I was missing one in line 50 as well

so I added it

hopefully this works then

appreciate it

[wispy ferry]

the first number in there is the toolkit required, in this case the drug-making kit
1 = basic, 2 = advanced, 3 = expert, 4 = drug, 5 = gunsmith

[ruby dust]

ohh yeah, now that you mention it. I remember asking for ammo recipes and someone said it. thanks for reminding me

[true island]

is there way to create mod with small part of config\script file to make sure unchanged parts doesnt override some other mods?

[ruby dust]

what?

[true island]

jsut edited mod and found that files contain a lot of other functionaly so im avare of them to break gamma

[ruby dust]

if I understood right. you want to make parts of your config/script not be overwritten?"

[true island]

i want to be sure that if i create mod that add guide functionality to Wolf, using base game files, that contain a lot of unchanged things, that unchanged things will not possibly interfere with other mods

[ruby dust]

I would love to help, but I'm not that good at modding

[visual venture]

what is this discord server?

[surreal gust]

It's made by the guy who made enhanced gui mod for Anomaly.

[visual venture]

thank you

[random fulcrum]

inc redemption arc

[surreal gust]

It's just called INC

monokit incorporated

Ay, @slow bolt , I got ZE links, do you want them in dms or here?

At least you can preview files without downloading them, that also applies to videos.

[slow bolt]

Dm

[surreal gust]

Ok

[surreal gust]

Alright, I sent them

[blazing quiver]

Hi guys. I don’t understand this very well and perhaps I’m writing in the wrong channel thread. But still, is it possible to somehow attach this game to the TRACKIR configurator (input device with head position tracking). Thank you. I apologize for the bad English.

https://www.trackir.com/trackir5/

[spiral stone]

anyone know what this means?

i.e. how to fix this

[lilac idol]

bro how did this happen

does anyone know how to unfuck animations after importing the skl to blender? or at least why that happens

basically this

[sinful wasp]

would the gamma enhanced recoil addon be the only way to modify recoil on a gun?

Looking into something related to the SKS Molot rifle and i'd want to change the recoil to be a bit less than it is atm

Ah and just to avoid confusion - the dizzy shake after shooting is what i consider "recoil" here
which i found to only be happening on the SKS/SVT rifles and maybe the Mosin

[fair inlet]

yes blur is an enhanced recoil effect. It's part of wpn_mosin section that sks inherits

[sinful wasp]

hm okay then i'm not touching that, thanks for the answer

[sinful wasp]

okay i did actually
and surprisingly having a file like this works:

edit: it doesn't.. at least not like i wanted it to work
i'll bang my head against the wall and figure it out tho

edit2: so.. changing the recoil patterns, blur whatever is a lot harder than one could expect. sks_b is also used for tactical and regular sks so i don't want to edit that
trying to create wpn_sks_molot pattern just crashed and now editing the [wpn_sks_molot]: usually ends with a str_explode crash (enhanced recoil is turned off in settings)
But i don't give up.... yet. Most likely will tho

edit3: actually the default sks recoil is fine, i'll just keep it

edit4: i lied. But i figured out the str_explode crash.. but didn't get any recoil pattern changes so we're back to the same issue. Maybe non-automatic gun recoil pattern will be better?

edit5: i'm stupid once again, it all works properly.

[random fulcrum]

i never got the blur ppe to work

so i just used both duality effects together

[simple scaffold]

DLTX let's you make a file that tells the engine to make single line changes/additions/removes to ltx files when they are loaded. Check the modding book guide for DLTX to see how.

If you and I both change a config using DLTX as long as we don't change the exact same thing we will not conflict.

Dxml does the same for xml files but in a different way.

And a programming concept known as monkey patching can, sometimes, modify scripts in a non conflicting way.

Both of these are in the modding book as well

[true island]

isnt there way to make like 00_weapons.ltx with small part of parent file if only that part changed? like in paradox games

in my example 00_weapons.ltx will contain only header and params for only one weapon that have been changed

[simple scaffold]

That is what DLTX allows. It is a modded exes feature. Normal such a thing is impossible in stalker

[true island]

ok ty

[simple scaffold]

Stalker wasn't intended to have mods. Anomaly is the most mod friendly stalker. And modded exes make it more so.

Anomaly 1.5.1 began a golden age of stalker modding that keeps getting better.

MCM, the monkey patching guide, DLTX and dxml have drastically reduced conflicts. Gamma couldn't exist with out those things.

[remote hamlet]

I have created

the most barebones stalker mp mod

you can connect to a server

and press a button

which spawns a underwear at your location for other players

A simple start

But its something

[tepid crypt]

chad man

[remote hamlet]

Next I will try to make the underwear follow the players

but uhhh

I made all this

and I still don't know how to spawn an npc

How do I spawn a basic stalker npc with no AI

because working with underwears as players is not very

fun

for now my mod is probaly what you would get if you wished for multiplayer to the wish granter lol

[uncut relic]

does anyone know where i can find files for the hud and text notifications? are the text notifications images?

[toxic flame]

hi!

how can i make a weapon holding reposition on screen?

like that

[lilac idol]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1226131003681013880 maybe try this

[muted garnet]

I was wondering if someone has the link or something for this mod. Or knows where to find it. Its this NVG animation. Here's a video for reference as well. I downloaded it a while ago, and I'm trying to just check up on the mod to see if it has had an update or something.

[slow bolt]

Lizzardman's nvg animation thing

dont think it was released

Its on anomaly server
#1182392825942380674 message

[spiral stone]

Does anyone know where I can find some footstep sounds? Atm im just using minecraft footsteps to test for the mutant footsteps addon im working on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_fVpoYaX50

like are there any good sound libraries online anyone knows about?

[muted garnet]

Sick, thank you. @flat musk @hard nebula you guys asked to be tagged when I found it.

[hard nebula]

thanks man already got it

[slow bolt]

It looks a lot less fake

but also looks exactly how i'd expect a XR MP taken code would look like

very buggy

Looks like something i'd would make

[random fulcrum]

implement rollback netcode to stalker gamma

[slow bolt]

I dont expect it to grow

since syncing tasks is easy when you already have netcode

[random fulcrum]

imo the real issue with adding multiplayer to anomaly in the state it is right now is that it's gonna be vanilla anomaly with another guy

at best with extremely simple mods

because anything that involves scripting just won't work

but that's just a guess

like what id does non host players get

how do you even get scripts to predict those ids

because they can't be 0

[vague leaf]

1. Youtube.
2. https://freesound.org/
3. Skyrim mods for creatures

[slow bolt]

it will work only locally

so theoretically most will work like usual SP

and break a lot because of your mate is an npc but also not

[slow bolt]

there is a footsies mod that does this already

[random fulcrum]

bruh that thing just changes all mutant footsteps to human

[slow bolt]

ofc it does

[spiral stone]

For the mod im working on i want to add different step sounds to most mutants, not just switch around who uses stalker steps

[spiral stone]

Also the foot step sounds in use for the mutants in the video aren't from the actor foorsteps. They're from a custom sound folder in the mod itself

[remote hamlet]

I'm trying to get all the info and pieces to the recent controversy with the anomaly mp mod, so what did MonoKit do thats bad?

someone said he stole anomalies engine and x ray omp's engine code but those are both open source from my under standing

I can't really find anything that he did thats bad

[celest forge]

Asked for donations for a thing that's not real

and not for the first time iirc

[remote hamlet]

But it is real?

[celest forge]

Like afaik he has been involved with like another past project that was allegedly the same

[remote hamlet]

Have you seen the videos?
it would be alot of work to fake what he did

like they would have to go out of their way to fake the stutteriness of the player movement

[celest forge]

Not a lot of work from someone that's taking money from it

[remote hamlet]

and the bugginess of the animations

from my understanding he only asks for donations

and they don't give acessess you do

and if he has a working mod I don't see much of an issue with that

[slow bolt]

He's been doing this for multiple years

[slow bolt]

not this again

[remote hamlet]

Ok say he did fake it

how do you know?

not to mention they are doing a whole stream today

[slow bolt]

I am not arguing with you again

no

[remote hamlet]

No I genuinely want to know

[slow bolt]

I have better things to do

[remote hamlet]

Because there just seems to be no lick of something that was wrong

atleast that I can find

[slow bolt]

When a scammer comes out with a new project you dont believe them unless they got very good proof

and his proof was dogshit

almost like it was on purpose

[remote hamlet]

Ok so then why is he a scammer

what did he do in the past

[slow bolt]

are you serious

This has been said multiple times in this channel

This isnt his first project

[remote hamlet]

and what did he do that in the previous project thats bad

[slow bolt]

here is a small taste:#╟🎮stalker-videos📹 message

[slow bolt]

they werent real

they were a scam

[fair canopy]

But y is it a scam tho bro

[remote hamlet]

I can't read Russian and google translate is very weird in alot of the segments

but there were some claims of not paying a dev along with lying that he paid them
and that he was money hungry

but I don't know if they are backed up with proof

as I can't read russian in the images

but did they ever get monokits side?

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-staring-funny-gif-13590085

[normal urchin]

bro I think we all understand that all of us would love for a coop mod for anomaly (and possibly gamma) but coop just for the base games has been experimented with and tried for over a decade, and that hasnt even worked (though there is that SoC coop mod that seems very functional) but if its taken that long to get a 17 year old game, and also just one of the three original games to barely function for coop, its not hard to believe that it would be very very difficult, if not almost impossible, for it to happen with anomaly, and arguing about it wont will it into existence

[slow bolt]

Oh brother

you said before you talked with him

i see the coolaid did its job

[remote hamlet]

no

I want both sides of the story

Thats why I asked these questions

[slow bolt]

There aint no need. It doesnt matter what his side is.
His projects were real and they were fake

with a lot of included screenshots

[random fulcrum]

because you need to hear the side of the proven grifter

[celest forge]

I mean, minds have been made

[remote hamlet]

The point is to get both sides to compare

[slow bolt]

The dude refuses to accept that Anomaly Coop is not possible simply because anomaly devs dont give him permission

its that simple

[random fulcrum]

i'm aware given his tone

[remote hamlet]

Is anomaly not open source?

[random fulcrum]

like no one is stopping you from giving your coins to monokit if you're this inclined

[slow bolt]

Open Source has licences

[random fulcrum]

just know that people told you

[slow bolt]

you cant monetize content made from open source

[random fulcrum]

people posted receipts

[slow bolt]

He is also a convicted criminal for money laundering. But you know

We totally need his side

he is just misunderstood

and there is only multiple people all saying the same thing

[random fulcrum]

that has pulled off the same scam 3 times in a row

[remote hamlet]

You don't have to put words in my mouth

[random fulcrum]

because third time's the charm

[remote hamlet]

I lack the whole story which is why I am trying to find the info

[random fulcrum]

this time it HAS to be real

the whole story was posted above

[remote hamlet]

I can't read russian

[celest forge]

In one of the videos he posted he just loads into a save and somehow that connects him with another person

[random fulcrum]

tough fucking shit

[celest forge]

Also yeah "I can't read the proof" does not invalidate it

[random fulcrum]

it's like if something nasty brewed up between juan and i and the receipts were all in heavy slang spanish

[remote hamlet]

never said it did

but I can't come to my own conclusion without understanding the info

[celest forge]

Carechimba baboso luego que le he hecho cabeza e mondá

[random fulcrum]

and you then said that you didn't get the full story because you can't read spanish

[slow bolt]

so translate

[remote hamlet]

google translate fucks up so much of the translation

[slow bolt]

Use chat gpt

[remote hamlet]

I get a general idea but its confusion at certain points

[remote hamlet]

That might actually work

is is good at pattern recognition