╓☢stalker-chat

[viral marsh]

honestly i love the double barrel challenge but there just aint enough guns there , kinda boring once u get over the early game grind

[harsh sandal]

Yeah but that's why it's a challenge

Also what you are describing can be said to most runs

[abstract sundial]

roll a 0 and you jus get fucking obliterated by a electro anomaly

[radiant sage]

Roll a 0 lol

[harsh sandal]

Tbf with double barrel only, your late game is still hard af

Say you have all they gears but your guns dont have good dps and only 2 shot before reloading

One mistake and you will be caught with your pant down

[round onyx]

outside of exos and nosorogs you have ap slugs but your biggest challenge is the game's performance deciding to crap the bed in the middle of a fight and trying to aim a double barrel at 20fps

[harsh sandal]

[harsh sandal]

Bold of you to assume it's easy yo aim with any 12g db in the first place

Hence I always do anything obtain a chimera hunter as soon as possible

[round onyx]

the over and under is stupidly accurate tbh, it's very funny to just snipe bandits with slugs in the camp defense mission by flea market

[peak axle]

excactly.

[harsh sandal]

Fair

The side by side one is painful to aim

[round onyx]

Roll d20 every 5 minutes. Roll a nat 1 and you die because the game crashed.

[harsh sandal]

You need chimera hunter do BS anyway

And it still has a huge chance that you wont turn off BS before the time running out

[hushed pier]

why

i hate that gun

[harsh sandal]

You do want to fight exo with AP slug or barikada?

[hushed pier]

are we going only shotguns or something

[wintry frigate]

do old saves typically die after updates?

[tough prawn]

double barrel only run

[hushed pier]

an assualt rifle, sniper smg

[harsh sandal]

Yeah double barrel shotgun only

Obviously chimera hunter is the best gun

[hushed pier]

then u're right

[harsh sandal]

Anyway I still need at least a phantom star to make sure I dont lose my run because I dont make it in time

💀

[viral marsh]

Ye but everything kinda starts to die down after BS till the raid

[hushed pier]

why if u have barikida it aint fast enough to clear bs?

[harsh sandal]

Nope

[hushed pier]

how long have ur run been going

yesterday mine was 12 hrs

[harsh sandal]

You need to hit most of your shots in the head with no time waste

[harsh sandal]

I died

[viral marsh]

its not the caliber you can clear it with 12ga only too , its just dps and fire rate that kills it

cuz its just a db

[harsh sandal]

Yeah

[harsh sandal]

This

[hushed pier]

5 months i been trying for a legit invictus

[viral marsh]

U gotta kill fast with guns which they are infamously slow

[hushed pier]

oflin said it took him like 6 months

[harsh sandal]

In my last BS session, the first 3 enemies had full exo gear

So yeah

[viral marsh]

I actually did Inv with dbs

its fun but it got repetitive too fast after BS

[harsh sandal]

Do it again then

[viral marsh]

i dont even have the game installed kek

but since im here i am thinking about reinstalling

[harsh sandal]

Yeah but it's not if you just overprepare and rush the entire game like I always do

less time doing boring stuffs

[viral marsh]

Its just gamma has so many guns and aks with good animations and not being able to use em kills the fun a bit

[harsh sandal]

Of course

But we are talking about challenge runs

You have to do what you have to do

[viral marsh]

Yee i know

[harsh sandal]

[viral marsh]

its not like i hate the challenges but after db only one i prefer warsaw pact or nato only

[near estuary]

my favorite challenge is the "Have fun" run

[harsh sandal]

Ngl mortal sin generator will be a pain in the butt to do

With db

[near estuary]

can't remember the last time I did LTTZ storylines

[viral marsh]

i cant remember the last time i started a game with no invictus challenge

casual feels super weird to me now

im addicted to 2 life only

[harsh sandal]

I always do invictus

[viral marsh]

cuz if i do casual i kno imma get bored kinda and drop it

cuz i'll cheat kek

[idle kelp]

3 lives is too easy, 2 lives is too hard, I am stuck in a conundrum

I just keep grinding invictus and one day I will succeed

[harsh sandal]

Just do one life bro smh

[harsh sandal]

🫡

I believe

[hushed pier]

i mean if ur invictus try aint streamed why would anyone believe

[viral marsh]

never do one life cuz even invictus gives u 2 cuz stalker anomaly is utter bullshit sometimes

[harsh sandal]

Agree

One life is just asking to lose your run to bug or glitch

[viral marsh]

Ye its not fun , even for invictus addicts like us

[harsh sandal]

Me when I lose my run after stepping on gun on the ground

[viral marsh]

me after dying to a glitched corpse on a ladder

especially in miracle machine start and that corpse is a zombie

[hushed pier]

me after getting betrayed

[atomic pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439887056041017495/1448664971356668096/attachment.gif

[harsh sandal]

One of my last BS sessions with db

Barely had anytime left 💀

It's a shame that I got nuked by sins or UNISGs in red forest right after iirc

This was the gears

[leaden island]

I dropped a suit in a trapezoidal bin the other day and launched my character 150m into the air

[harsh sandal]

[leaden island]

Any one life game mode is genuinely just stupid

[harsh sandal]

Classic

[harsh sandal]

Well not if the game is stable enough to do so

[leaden island]

But it never is

[harsh sandal]

It's just x ray engine magic you know

[whole monolith]

Needs more 12g

[hushed pier]

great start ffs

[grave pivot]

Bandits?

[round onyx]

my dopamine brainrotted brain has me considering lowering artifact condition stats and increasing artifact spawn chance to match because getting like 7 5% artifacts sure beats going to 4 fucking anomaly fields in zaton and coming out with one fucking sandstone

[harsh sandal]

I had like 100 barikada at that time

[whole monolith]

No no I aint judging, having 3 double barrels is kinda like having one six barrel

[harsh sandal]

[leaden island]

Mfw i walk up to hot hind anomaly and pick up four artifacts chilling

[round onyx]

Does anyone know what file controls the maximum and minimum on sliders in progression difficulty and gameplay difficulty?

[severe wren]

Man, i almost nutted

i got 22k from a single pda

[dusk vessel]

its kill strelok pda?

[severe wren]

yep

[round onyx]

there are mfs out there selling PDAs instead of disassembling them for parts

[whole monolith]

That’s the one you don’t disassemble

[near estuary]

I only ever sell them once I've crafted literally everything electronic

but at that point, I'm probably already starting a new playthrough due to how fucking boring endgame is

[valid crater]

On a normal playthrough you should swim in electronics in almost no time.

[near estuary]

PDAs help a lot

like 40% of my current electronic parts on this playthrough are from them

if I had sold them all, I'd have maybe extra 20k

which is literally nothing in a game where you can stack kill quests on the same guy

[remote dome]

Good Day Folks. Just a random question, been about a year or more since I have done a full playthrough of Gamma. Got a game that has been going for awhile now, and I have been waiting for a couple key guns that I guess are no longer in the game.

Their use to be a Saige 12 "Nerd" and the Fenix Submachine Gun. Wondering if they were taken out of gamma

[feral depot]

Barman watching me tear apart 5 PDAs with my bare hands after he's finished decrypting them

[whole monolith]

I’m not 100% sure but I think I’ve seen the Nerd but not the Fenix..

[near estuary]

Fenix?
never heard of that
the .45 ACP MP5 is called Frasier

[remote dome]

I meant to say Vector

sorry

[near estuary]

nerd still exists iirc

[near estuary]

as does the Vector but it's very rare

[unique harness]

are all weapons in weapon spreadsheet exist in the current version of modpack?

[near estuary]

probably

it has to be updated manually, obviously, but it should be accurate to what's in the game

[dusky dagger]

whick key shoud i press for the weapon inspection ?

[muted ferry]

hey is there a patch for pretty pistols pack and maid hd icons?

nevermind

[strong badger]

where do you actually get a vector?
literally never seen it before

[dusk vessel]

ive once gotten one

its just a rare drop

nato faction master or legend can spawn with it

or unisg veteran and expert too

mp5 fraiser is much easier to find

[normal island]

It's unobtamium

Don't bother

[strong badger]

ah aight

[mystic flame]

yeah its just hard to get ahold of iirc

like a 4 percent spawn chance

one of those thats only really worth if you come across it

[queen arrow]

master, legends, monolith and unisg, i got mine from them irc

[round onyx]

Found it, now I need to find the Shadow of Chernobyl, the Clear Sky, and the Call of Pripyat

[blissful ivy]

What?

[mental furnace]

u forgot about heart of chernobyl

[round onyx]

aint no way

[grave solar]

toppers: if you recruit the quest completes ?

is that to avoid killing allies ?

[edgy moon]

"You can't just go through BS with a type A gun!"
"MP9 goes brrrrrrrrr"

[grave solar]

he says with ap ammo rifle

but yes ofc you can if you bring 800rds

of fmj to make it fun yknow duh

[round onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbvhZMLAq6E Running 5 spikes on a 9mm lategame

[near estuary]

spikes with full auto?

I can respect a gambler

[dusk vessel]

i did brain scorcher with a mp5sd just today

any automatic 9mm will do fine

having a good scope like ac is helping a lot

[near estuary]

@blissful ivy hey pookie , question
is there any other purpose to those notes other than selling?

from the lootboxes I mean

[round onyx]

Getting a stalker 2 modpack video recommended and not checking the video title, started wondering what mods he had for anomaly, only realized when the mod link was a nexus one for stalker 2

[lost heron]

Why is TAA being disabled? That was a big selling point on one of the recent SSS updates

[viral marsh]

rolled save for those great barrels

[hushed pier]

nope, but lost that run anyway

was skinning a mutant and lurker hit while i am animation locked

[near estuary]

hmmm
decisions decisions

[hushed pier]

ak of course

[viral marsh]

i always disable that

[near estuary]

I am a sucker for older AKs ngl

but I'm also playing freedumb rn

which doesn't make the ammo very convenient

[hushed pier]

well im trying a default gamma run so i dont play wit the settings

[viral marsh]

faie enough

[sick yoke]

You could do bs with a semi auto 9mm even

[hushed pier]

added these very necessary mods tho

dont effect gameplay

[dusk vessel]

ak or g36

L85 and M4 are meh

[tribal steeple]

eat the grenades

[tough prawn]

xm177 just cuz its the coolest there

the commando

[dusk vessel]

m4 with a paintjob

[tough prawn]

you can boil down any gun in gamma to that

if it were like that there would be like 10 guns in total

[blissful ivy]

First, dont call me that, second, not as far as i know

[celest sparrow]

[blissful ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961687761151221773/1371436905668939836/attachment78789798.gif

[viral marsh]

invictus protect ? aint that when u open the cheats but invictus is still on ?

[near estuary]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837355769946046546/960685663504695317/1649115570183.gif

[near estuary]

actually went for that in the end

[rough moth]

ALWAYS THE AKMS.

[near estuary]

too late

I feel like Mason from BO1 now

[versed badge]

Did Duty get any bases in the northern zones or is that still a Freedom only thing

[tough prawn]

[blissful ivy]

[near estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997235750649208963/1372528706597294130/togif-4-1.gif

[fallen junco]

anyone know how to complete this mission i killed the bloodsucker (he ran into a whiligig) and it wont auto complete

[celest sparrow]

you find the Artifact

Why even mention the bloodsucker

[fallen junco]

i thought thats all you had to do ngl

[celest sparrow]

Why would the bloodsucker be baba yaga

I don't remember where it is exactly but the Artifact you need to find should be around here

[sinful vessel]

Question folks, what do you recommend to be the best Stalker Gamma weapon mods?

[undone osprey]

cause modders are too lazy to fix pip scopes / taa itself
you can always use stable .exes that doesn't break taa lol

[oblique shadow]

anyway to fix the fkin pulse anomaly from looking like a flashbang?

[undone osprey]

maybe

[oblique shadow]

its been this way since sss was implemented

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow how do you get the rat adventure achievement

it better not be something stupid like taking ratmaid to the end of the game lol

[deep wing]

Is this questline fixed from being super annoying on the second task in Darkscape?

[celest sparrow]

Nothing has been changed

[celest sparrow]

you pretty much take her with you up to Radar

[sick yoke]

oh my god bruh

[deep wing]

Pity. When I first accepted it it seemed like a very cool questline. Then I got darkscaped.

[sick yoke]

it's something stupid like taking ratmaid to (almost) the end of the game

alright then what about mr universe

[round onyx]

tf is a ratmaid

[celest sparrow]

someone is working on a mod to fix and adjust itheon's tasks but it's a wip thing

they made it so the House of Horrors zombie is killed based off the amount of shots it receives (which scales depending of difficulty and weapon iirc)

[deep wing]

IIRC Itheon himself. I remember seeing a post about it.

[celest sparrow]

There's a sidequest with Sangres to protect the Beautiful Boobs server

I think you gain access to it after reaching Tier 2 or Tier 3

[sick yoke]

oh sangres

what about the moon date

[celest sparrow]

You need to find a Legendary Pistol for it

It's a P220 iirc

[sick yoke]

huh

[celest sparrow]

i have a clip of it hold on

[sick yoke]

well i can probably just buy it from funny army warehouse man so not a big deal

also wtf is this

[celest sparrow]

Speeds up time

[sick yoke]

oh that's it?

[celest sparrow]

It's this pistol and has a small % chance for it to proc on kill
which you then have to head to the Swamps in an area marked by your PDA

you can go there whenever you want but it has to be night time

all you really need is the pistol tbh

[sick yoke]

oh i think i fucked up the spare the nft grifter achievement

i have to dialogue with them don't i

[celest sparrow]

I honestly don't remember how I got it

I think you only need to not kill anyone

[sick yoke]

nope never mind

had to turn in the quest to get the achievement

[celest sparrow]

Ah

[deep wing]

I can't imagine how many mods it took to look so different

Well not just look I guess it is different

[proven fox]

wtf

[celest sparrow]

It's peam

[celest sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKya7cmk8rs
https://youtu.be/StZFjIN1cPY?si=vLc6nR3Qcj8slubk

[deep wing]

Oh, so it's a single developer. That's a respectable amount of grind

[atomic pebble]

Yeah, the development started in 2021 but also the development stopped several times

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow once you beat arena 1-4 you'll never stop wanting to fucking kill any bloodsucker you see

literally the worst fight in the entire game

[celest sparrow]

It was so ass

[agile epoch]

bro scared the absolute fuck out of me holy shit

I have never seen a chimera in Garbage before

I didn't think you could get them there

[graceful quiver]

Not often but yeah they do spawn there

[fickle badge]

Where tf can I get rope? I swear i never see any

[blissful ivy]

its literally everywhere, just disassemble that grey lookin rope

if gives you like 3

each

[valid loom]

[vapid cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-durst-limp-bizkit-fred-durst-friday-gif-19871211

[vast oxide]

anyone know if there is a chart or sum that shows what kinds of rewards you get for certain tasks?

[leaden island]

Can you repair pelts or improve their condition?

[leaden island]

I saw a Pseudogiant in Cordon 💀

[celest sparrow]

no

[celest sparrow]

no

[vast oxide]

:( guess im making one

[grave pivot]

I once saw a Pseudogiant in the Army Warehouses

I thought it was part of a task since it happened to spawn in the same place in it, but i was supposed to be hunting a Snork. So the giant was there by coincidence

[grave pivot]

Dark souls bossfight for a rookie 😭

[thick sedge]

https://youtu.be/OTFgTRsz43Q?si=ltLd3NUZG0LqwpIw yoooo

wait this is a stalker server

but yoooo

[uncut agate]

Fellas, anybody else having weird binocular sens? I'm having an issue where when I zoom in with binoculars, my mouse sensitivity becomes super fast. When I zoom back out and just have them in my hand, the sensitivity stays high until I swap items. Has anyone else experienced this and have a fix? I'm doing accidental 360s.

[onyx forum]

svt or mosin chat

[onyx forum]

is it finally a game

and not a demo

havent tried it in 4 years

[thick sedge]

no not yet if you look at the page store

it's out april 4th

I just hope my demo save syncs with release because my crib look so good

[onyx forum]

is it a real game now?

last i played

it felt like some shit from the 90s

it was clunky as shit and super linear

[thick sedge]

yes

personally

[normal island]

There's no SVT in GAMMA iirc

[onyx forum]

modded

[leaden island]

ALWAYS SVT

[normal island]

Then SVT, obviously

[onyx forum]

i chose avt

[normal island]

Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[onyx forum]

as it is the same cost for some reason

im not gonna use the full auto when i have a smoove 30 rounds in reserve

but 15 round mag is awesome

[onyx forum]

not really

[normal island]

Yes really

Bolt action vs mag fed semi auto

[onyx forum]

ammo conservation

for early game

[normal island]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Just shoot slower with the SVT

[celest sparrow]

Ammo conservation when I have trigger discipline

[onyx forum]

say that until you get jumped by something

45 rounds isnt a lot between 3 mags

[celest sparrow]

the good ol "okay but imagine you're in this situation"

because it is a natural response to panic and hold down M1 when the unexpected appears
but would it make much of a difference if it was bolt action or semi auto

[onyx forum]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

i get in this situation a solid 9/10 times so i dont think its super far from possible

[celest sparrow]

You can start conserving ammo by carrying a RPG
Anything dies with a single rocket funny jumpscare? not on my watch

[onyx forum]

true

the 338 guns are good at that

this is my first time in like 4 years fighting mercs

i must stop this brother war

[blissful ivy]

mosin is a vibe

[onyx forum]

a vibe wont kill freedom

whats the command to unlock ISG i forgot

i dont wanna play through the whole game again to do so

[celest sparrow]

isg

[blissful ivy]

it will

[onyx forum]

no

[onyx forum]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[celest sparrow]

[onyx forum]

where do i input this

[blissful ivy]

avt? more like avtarded

mosin better

[blissful ivy]

new game menu

[blissful ivy]

abatari

[onyx forum]

where

[blissful ivy]

[blissful ivy]

there

literally

there

[onyx forum]

like just type it

[blissful ivy]

istg if you put it in the name box

[onyx forum]

oh im a tard

i didnt check the faction box

[blissful ivy]

dont put it in the name box

i swear

[onyx forum]

i didnt

im not that dumb

[blissful ivy]

thank god

[onyx forum]

i forgot to hit the faction button im that type of tard

idk if its a mod or default gamma, but isg can start with PDA 3.1

ghillie, 9mm aug and medium helm off rip

im gonna need this

[pallid mountain]

how do i free ratmaid

[blissful ivy]

thats normal

too bad ghillie sucks pseudodog balls

[onyx forum]

yeah but i need it for the drip

its like the desert ranger armor

why is he trying to aura farm

[fickle badge]

Is there a fix for the gauss gun crashing?

[celest sparrow]

!gausstemp

[dawn marten]

@fickle badge
If you crash with: section wpn_gauss_hud model dynamics\weapons\wpn_gauss\wpn_gauss_hud Do the following: #🔨base-gamma-support message

[fickle badge]

Oh thanks!

[fickle badge]

Actually wait, my crash is different. Something about arithmetic heat error or something

[pallid mountain]

oh. my fucking god the switch right next to the door perhaps,

[celest sparrow]

!support

[dawn marten]

@fickle badge If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[bitter harbor]

there is hold breath, its F by default. Check your MCM settings

[normal island]

Oh hey I made two of those

[onyx forum]

i think you made the mod bro

[normal island]

The MTS and the MP43

[onyx forum]

nvm i think its frostys

its been like a year i dont remember

[tall flower]

does anyone know what quest this is?

[onyx forum]

explorers

it says it up top

[tall flower]

what is explorers? is it different from mystery of the zone?

[hollow wadi]

Lil bro completely ignored the bot in newbies chat

And also completely ignored who he was taking tasks from

[tall flower]

it just appeared the same time i got northern passage

[onyx forum]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[grave pivot]

there, i fixed the floors, i think. I also added a light and a bloodsucker statue to scare off any Loners trying to approach my house

[cursive wagon]

Idk if scaring off loners by attaching freedomer bait is a good idea

[fallen junco]

anyone know if this is worth?

[hollow wadi]

Save and find out?

[uncut agate]

I haven't found the cause, but I found a solution to the binocular sensitivity bug. When the bug occurs, your mouse sens gets reset to default of .71. While the bug is active, go into your sensitivity settings, set sens to your normal value, then apply. This fix seems to survive loading saves and changing maps. Works on launching game, as well as starting new game.

idk if you fixed it yourself yet, but I haven't seen another solution on this server and I'm replying so that anybody searching will find this.

[lyric tide]

Damn

Just because you can, doesnt mean that you should

[analog palm]

no

we must

because we can

[graceful quiver]

For the good of all of us~

-# Except for those who are ded

[lyric tide]

So we can agree, G36 carry handle on EVERYTHING?

[graceful quiver]

These AIs I fucking swear

[near estuary]

[graceful quiver]

[near estuary]

better watch your ass

[lyric tide]

One moment they get stuck in a door, the next they will be using their advanced tactical acumen to corner and flank you while one suppresses you, another chucks a super accurate grenade over a wall at you and the third rushes you in melee range

[graceful quiver]

fr

Let's see if I can get them unstuck

[lyric tide]

Just as the X-Ray gods intended

[graceful quiver]

Oh nvm, after intense amount of collision glitching they managed to get out

[lyric tide]

The zone balancing itself

[graceful quiver]

What's even worse was, as it turned out, those 3 were part of a 4 man group

[lyric tide]

Wonder what happens when the 4th just leaves the map

[graceful quiver]

The engine is just gonna shit itself probably

[graceful quiver]

[lyric tide]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-мочёня-нож-knife-explosion-gif-26789999

[graceful quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc5rB-0ZBcI

[grave pivot]

Rookie Mitosis

[graceful quiver]

The Zone does strange things to cellular mechanisms

[dusk vessel]

honestly my gamma runs pretty well, and rarely crashes

so the engine can work

[tribal steeple]

why yes binoculars why of course me a mere loner would be homies with monolith, ill go right up to them!

update: they brainwashed my ass

[dusk vessel]

hell yeah

mono blade and svds

[blissful ivy]

i got my svds from a bawks

picked the lock to a pleasant surprise

[lyric tide]

Man i love 12.7x55

[lyric tide]

Look what i just found

[blissful ivy]

we found him, the man who loves the worst ammo more than anyone else

[lyric tide]

The worst?

How can you say that

[blissful ivy]

i hate 12.7

such a shitter when 7.62x54 is RIGHT THERE

and cheaper

[lyric tide]

Brother you shoot a monolithian in the head with that he does a backflip, its the best ammo in the game

[blissful ivy]

counterpoint, KS-23

actually useful too

so yeah, better

[lyric tide]

12.7x55 is 23x70 but at further than 3 meters

If you're gonna cheese the entire game with a shotgun you're missing out lul

[blissful ivy]

i dont use either one

i think 12.7 sucks, especially the VSSK

that thing is particularly shit

i dont mind the ash-12 so much, its at least useable

and the rsh is fun, and the only one i properly like

[lyric tide]

Why do you think its shit?

[blissful ivy]

but damn is 12.7 so much worse than just using assault rifles

its just not that good when its outperformed by 5.56 and 5.45 AP

and those rounds are cheaper

with less recoil

more range

better optics usually too

and grenade launchers

[lyric tide]

Have you considered throwing grenades as an alternative

[blissful ivy]

its rigged against 12.7

[blissful ivy]

the formidable giant stomp sending it right back at you:

[severe wren]

is there a faq or manual for companions somewhere? I've been avoiding having em like the plague, but i really want to learn how to use em, i've seen them be extremely valuable in firefights and mutant hunting the few times i've been forced to escort someone and they've participated

[blissful ivy]

yeah, im not so sure about that one

[lyric tide]

Burers

[blissful ivy]

just use the companion button, C by default i think

and then select what you want

[lyric tide]

Doesnt always have to be about the economy

[blissful ivy]

its not, its about crafting them

the ammo parts are just outright cheaper and more common

easier access means more shooty

[lyric tide]

There is no economy which is why crafting is your economy

[blissful ivy]

means more fun

[lyric tide]

Have you considered less shooty

[severe wren]

Yeah, but can i give guns to companions? Can i make my companions wear better armor, does armor condition and weapon condition matter for companions, do companions need bullets for guns you've given them?

[blissful ivy]

i prefer to fight stalkers

its my playstyle

im talking 2k kills in like 20 days

[severe wren]

That kind of stuff, cause if i need to start worrying about companion equipment condition, then forget about it

[lyric tide]

I also prefer to fight stalkers

But i shoot less to kill my targets

[blissful ivy]

yes, and with DNPCAV you can give armor too

and the condition doesnt matter for armor if you enable DNPCAV

but the weapon seems to matter

low condition = more jams

[lyric tide]

You know what would give 12.7 the edge it needs?

[blissful ivy]

5.56 AP uses 2-3 max rounds

1 to the head

[lyric tide]

HP rounds and Frag rounds

I'd be all over that

[blissful ivy]

frag rounds are a thing

#1065168136577482753

but i think theyre overpriced for how they are

theyre not that good for what they should be

[lyric tide]

Im sure theres some use in them

Is that old save compatible?

[blissful ivy]

its compatible in all saves

it just adds items

it cant be uninstalled mid save tho

[lyric tide]

Thats fine as long as i dont see someone full-autoing me with RPGs

[blissful ivy]

i just believe 12.7 isnt that good in its current state

[blissful ivy]

you see that in base gamm already tbh

they reload rpgs so much faster than they should

so when you do see them, they manage to shoot them faster than humanly possible

not a big deal usually, since theyre a prio target, so they should be dead before they see you/you should use cover anyway

[lyric tide]

tru

fuckin hell that must have been over 70 monolithians i killed on No step back just now

Most of them with the Vykhlop

They were actively flying into the river over the bridge from the impact

[dusk vessel]

12.7 would be okay but, there isnt a reason to use it

on sniper rifles its got shit velocity

on the shak its just outclassed by any rifle

in terms of dps

[lyric tide]

Whaddya need velocity for you aren't engaging targets at 700+ meters anyway

[lyric tide]

Well yeah its a bolt action

[dusk vessel]

only good use of 12.7x55 is the revolver

[lethal steeple]

all bolt actions are unusably bad in gamma because of how damage works

[lyric tide]

Theres a revolver with it now? Damn

[dusk vessel]

the mark 2 forester is fun

but any dmr is better

[lyric tide]

Should get a torso + head multiplier

[lethal steeple]

12.7 is one of the slowest bullets in the entire game

[dusk vessel]

its sub sonic

specially made to be

very heavy slow moving round

[lethal steeple]

there's no bullet in the game that's actually subsonic, unfun fact

but it's still super slow

not as bad as .45

[dusk vessel]

well yeah

[lethal steeple]

but terrible speed

[dusk vessel]

mp5sd is supposed to be sub sonic

[lethal steeple]

what's important about it is that 12.7 has hilarious scaling

[dusk vessel]

the way the gas system works in the gun is that even when firing supersonic ammo it will be sub sonic effectively

but its gamma not irl

[lyric tide]

ffs i hate how enemies keep camping in the bushes in limansk lmao

[lethal steeple]

it's just beyooooooooond ass

it's like 40m out and you've already lost like 50% damage

[hollow wadi]

Where are you fighting in Limansk that they sit in bushes all day

Just leave, kite em

[dusk vessel]

i can only think of the river to even have bushes in the way

[lyric tide]

They will actively use the bushes as cover in the area infront of the small clinic

[hollow wadi]

[lethal steeple]

shoot at the plant that has a muzzle flash

[hollow wadi]

Go back up to construction

[lethal steeple]

plants do not have muzzle flashes

[lyric tide]

the one with the bunch of trees lmao

[dusk vessel]

or install ccon grass

and select winter

bushes are leafe less in that mod

[hollow wadi]

Literally just leave, they'll follow you out of the bushes

[dusk vessel]

but yeah

[lyric tide]

It makes for hilarious firefights where they keep running around the trees to avoid your LOS

[hollow wadi]

Unless you got combat re:done
In which case suffer

[dusk vessel]

the npc cannot see through foliage mod exists too

[lyric tide]

this guy is so inaccurate i dont think he does

[dusk vessel]

people rush into the middle of every gunfight and then wonder why they died

using cover is not difficult

[lethal steeple]

win every encounter in gamma

1. sit behind any cover ever
2. mash open inventory
3. shoot the single file platoon of mobs

[dusk vessel]

i like using bolt actions myself, but i agree with you

there is a few exceptions to this

[lyric tide]

Lemme guess, they're coded to rush you when you start up your inventory

[dusk vessel]

like a .338 lapua or a mark 2 98k forester (mid game)

[dusk vessel]

or if you dont trust your aim

plant a few IED on proximity

[lethal steeple]

lapua isn't exactly outclassed because it's meant to be better than the franchise's bfg but are you really going to spend a fortune on one bullet that's also heavy as all shit

[dusk vessel]

aggro enemies and wait

[lethal steeple]

when you could just hit a guy 3 times with an smg

that cycles at 900rpm

and has no recoil

[dusk vessel]

you only really use lapua when youre rich anyway

[dusk vessel]

im running mp5sd and mark 2 98k right now

only really use the 98k for longer ranges

[lethal steeple]

lapua being better than the gauss is something that will never be not infuriating

[dusk vessel]

even mid range ill prefer the mp5

lapua is an oversized 308 is it not

[blissful ivy]

no its not

thats .338 federal

[dusk vessel]

ah

mixed them up

[blissful ivy]

which is just a necked up .308

[grave pivot]

The humble Wall:

[lethal steeple]

lapua is 8.6xsomething

[blissful ivy]

.338 is 8.6x70

[dusk vessel]

yeah

[blissful ivy]

lapua that is

[dusk vessel]

big round

[grave pivot]

that house chokepoint, just place a wall at one of the doorways

[blissful ivy]

no idea what norma mag is, but thats irrelevant

[grave pivot]

or plant an IED

[lethal steeple]

but still like even gun retards know velocity is king

[dusk vessel]

lapua being as strong as it is makes sense

but gauss felt really weak

[lethal steeple]

the gauss fires a projectile that travels at 1/15th the speed of fucking light

[blissful ivy]

as a gun retard, i confirm

[dusk vessel]

i mean things like 5.56 get all of their damage and pen from the velocity

[lyric tide]

At what applications

[dusk vessel]

small projectile moving really fast

[near estuary]

Is that gun autism I hear

[blissful ivy]

the gauss should just 1 shot to the torso/head imo

but that might be a bad take

[lethal steeple]

how dude it's the franchise's bfg

[dusk vessel]

considering you get it for free during the story

[lethal steeple]

its ammo is obtained at one (1) vendor only

[dusk vessel]

might not be a good idea to make it op

[blissful ivy]

idk because "balance" or smth

[lethal steeple]

that's in the literal corner of the map

[blissful ivy]

theres always a reason we cant have fun shit

[lyric tide]

Its a gimmick weapon

[blissful ivy]

[blissful ivy]

should be a really fucking good gimmick weapon

[lethal steeple]

as opposed to lapua being sold everywhere

[lyric tide]

It does one thing and one thing only good
Penetrate things

[lethal steeple]

and being cheaper to craft

[blissful ivy]

not a joke thats used one time to kill one guy

and its not even needed

[lyric tide]

But its a tiny projectile, its like shooting somebody with a needle essentially

So the effects are limited

[lethal steeple]

it's 10mm

[blissful ivy]

at least if eidolon had immunity to all but gauss, it would make it useful for SOMETHING

[lyric tide]

even 9mm FMJ can overpenetrate and cause minimum damage

[blissful ivy]

but nah you can literally kill eidolon via magdumping 9x18

if you wanted

[near estuary]

Don't care
From a balancing point of view, it should one-shot anything

[lyric tide]

Realistically speaking

[grave pivot]

explosives are more fun ngl, The only time i use a Gauss rifle is agaisnt Eidolon and during the Living Legend questline when i have to go through CNPP. Besides that the gun just collects dust in the Locker of my stash

[lethal steeple]

so extrapolate that to lapua

[dusk vessel]

in my case i magdumped him with 9x19 fmjs

[lyric tide]

Use an RPG then

[blissful ivy]

i mean, a 10mm hole through you would still be bad

btw

[lethal steeple]

dude

[dusk vessel]

especially on that kind of velocity

[lethal steeple]

you know

[dusk vessel]

was it 10000m/s?

[near estuary]

But like
What's the point of the gauss

[lethal steeple]

it's the keyhole wound channel copypasta

[blissful ivy]

so like, chances are you would still be dead as fuck

[lethal steeple]

playing out by itself

that's crazy

[dusk vessel]

make gauss oneshot helicopters

[lethal steeple]

i never thought this moment would happen

[dusk vessel]

lore accurate

[lyric tide]

Yeah but have you considered a 12.7mm hole from a 420m/s flying projectile that also hits you with a ton of impact force and lodges fragmentation into you

[lyric tide]

Penetrate things

[grave pivot]

pew pew

[blissful ivy]

make the fucking gauss triangle shaped so that the lore is that it cant be stitched up because triangle wound, then the tards would be happy

[near estuary]

Actually isn't iirc
Wasn't that the electric anomaly

[grave pivot]

i do want to have an RPG on my hands someday, I never got one during the Barrier raids

[blissful ivy]

fuck off with 12.7 no one cares

[dusk vessel]

iirc it was both

[blissful ivy]

i particularly dont

[dusk vessel]

they got hit by both anomalies and the gauss

[blissful ivy]

we are past that

we are talking about gauss and its impotency now

[lyric tide]

Honestly the whole gimmick of the gauss should be to penetrate even through artifact protection, that is if enough NPCs wore artifacts aside from sin

[dusk vessel]

like, one helicopter when you inspect it says it got hit i remember

others got destroyed by anomalies

[lethal steeple]

or how the gauss deals less than 1% damage to a pseudogiant on its weakspot

[near estuary]

But it's fucking useless at that
Lapua can already pen everything
Hell, 7.62 NATO can pen almost anything

[lethal steeple]

fantastic game design on gbo

[lyric tide]

Their engine got sniped out, it makes for great anti materiel

[blissful ivy]

i mean ok, the gauss can be bad on mutants sure, but why the fuck is it still mediocre on stalkers

[lyric tide]

Like, literally both engines

[blissful ivy]

the thing its MEANT TO KILL

[lyric tide]

Nah is prototype

[lethal steeple]

not really

[blissful ivy]

its made to kill people

[near estuary]

Okay
Just raise the damage
It will do the exact same thing while being easier to implement

[blissful ivy]

its not for hunting deer mate

[dusk vessel]

when do we get to wield the giant gauss found in the lab

[blissful ivy]

[lethal steeple]

the giant one in the firing range is the prototype

[dusk vessel]

watch it still take 2 shots to kill a mono

[dusk vessel]

^

[blissful ivy]

the handheld one is the completed product

[hollow wadi]

Raise the damage when grok_bo.script says "lol"

[lethal steeple]

you could argue the item n62 is also a prototype of the shoulder fired version

[lyric tide]

For all we know this thing might have been designed with shooting flies in mind for all we know, some mad scientist really having it out for mosquitoes but being unable to hit them, like a super fast bug-a-salt

[lethal steeple]

but the gauss is essentially mass manufactured by the time anomaly takes place

in soc you already see a lot of mobs using it

[blissful ivy]

yeah the gauss rifle is meant to be a completed product

as of now

[hollow wadi]

Costs as little as 800 rubles

[blissful ivy]

its the first of its type to be mass produced sure

but its still completed

[lyric tide]

Yeah, shit gun like that should also perform shit

[lyric tide]

[blissful ivy]

anyways, i just think the gauss needs a buff in the future to properly compete with .338

and/or outperform

it should outperform

considering its purpose in lore/universe

[dusk vessel]

it should outperform

[lyric tide]

I think monolithians in the late game should be using a ton of protection artifacts and the gauss rifle should counter that

[blissful ivy]

it is supposed to punch holes in tank armor or something

[blissful ivy]

dont

start

we dont need more sin-like enemies

[dusk vessel]

even lapua could punch a hole in a light tanks armour

like an IFV

[lyric tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hakos-baelz-bae-bae-smug-baelz-smug-hakos-smug-gif-13850222705806008266

[blissful ivy]

well i mean, depends what you call a tank

[dusk vessel]

IFV are still tanks

but have thin armour

just enough to stop common rifle rounds

[blissful ivy]

i mean, the bradley IFV can stop 14.5mm

so like, not really

[dusk vessel]

that one is a bit beefier

[blissful ivy]

[dusk vessel]

there is many kinds

[lyric tide]

To be fair BTRs all have angled armor in the 8-10mm range

[near estuary]

they're IFVs

[lyric tide]

But i think the Gauss rifle would penetrate atleast 80mm

[dusk vessel]

still tanks, even if lightly armoured

[blissful ivy]

even the BMP can take a 12.7 to the front, and can stop 12.7 in the side armor from distances past 100m reliably

[lyric tide]

In its handheld form

[blissful ivy]

so i dont think .338 is penetrating any tank

whatsoever

[near estuary]

it's an armored vehicle, just like a tank
doesn't mean it's tank
it's an IFV

[blissful ivy]

the gauss definitely can

its shooting a metal spike at mach fuck

[lyric tide]

.338 is not an anti materiel round

[dusk vessel]

it isnt

[blissful ivy]

its light anti material actually

more like cinderblock walls

not tanks

[lyric tide]

Pretty sure its implied the gauss actually fires a ball bearing

[blissful ivy]

which is not good

[dusk vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPw7e0Lrd8A

[blissful ivy]

when spike better

[dusk vessel]

judge for yourself

its not going through much

[blissful ivy]

modern tanks arent just steel anymore

[dusk vessel]

composites i know

[blissful ivy]

but i suppose

[dusk vessel]

ap .50 bmg can def go through a bmp

especially an older one

[celest sparrow]

my dick be anti-tank with how thicc your momma is

[lyric tide]

back when russians didnt give a shit about crew protection (they still don't)

[blissful ivy]

AP

i said standard

and yeah, .338 isnt .50BMG either

[dusk vessel]

i know

i didnt disagree with what you said

just said ap will make it

[blissful ivy]

gauss is anti tank, .50 AP is anti armor too

just not proper tanks

[celest sparrow]

[blissful ivy]

just IFVs/APCs

[dusk vessel]

M2 browning was used against tanks since it was made

[blissful ivy]

with success on light tanks, i know

[near estuary]

[blissful ivy]

with mixed results on medium and heavy tanks

[dusk vessel]

anyway gauss needs a buff

[lyric tide]

The thing is, you would be penetrating tanks with the Gauss rifle, IFVs especially, but then you'd have to know where to aim exactly as the damage would be minimal

[blissful ivy]

mostly effective on weak points of medium tanks, and on light armor

[dusk vessel]

when something moving that fast breaks armour, it turns the broken armour into a sort of frag grenade

because of fragmented armour pieces flying inside the tank

[near estuary]

that just goes for any anti-tank rifle

[dusk vessel]

could be enough to wipe anyone living inside

[blissful ivy]

i mean yeah, all that metal armor has to be sent somewhere

[lyric tide]

That depends on the weight of the projectile

[dusk vessel]

it does

[blissful ivy]

a 10mm spike

[dusk vessel]

and speed

[lyric tide]

ball bearing

[blissful ivy]

thats relatively heavy as is

[blissful ivy]

spike

[lyric tide]

balls

[near estuary]

spike your balls

[dusk vessel]

modern sabotated tank darts arent very large projectiles

[blissful ivy]

not a single serious railcannon uses a fucking ball

[dusk vessel]

but they fragment the armour so much a single shot takes out a crew

[lyric tide]

Thats still atleast a 300g projectile we're talking about

Whats a 10mm spiked ballbearing gonna weigh

Lets say 10x40mm

[blissful ivy]

4kg actually

[lyric tide]

Maybe 20 grams?

[lyric tide]

I was going quite low with maybe a 76mm APFSDS

[dusk vessel]

the projectile itself or with the sabot and powder

[blissful ivy]

i meant tank darts

so 120mm

not ww2 tank cannon size

[dusk vessel]

120 is standart nowdays

they didnt have apfsds in ww2 lol

[blissful ivy]

no one really uses 76mm

at all

[dusk vessel]

20mm apfsds exists too

[blissful ivy]

20mm yeah

[dusk vessel]

30mm too

russians use those

[blissful ivy]

because IFVs use autocannons in 20 and 30mm

[dusk vessel]

those can do a lot in terms of pen

far more than any other round of the calibre

and they arent that large

[blissful ivy]

yeah they can tank out tanks with efficiency

[lethal steeple]

there's nothing on the gauss' bullet's form

[lyric tide]

That doesnt mean 76mm APFSDS didnt exist in later times lol

[blissful ivy]

im just going by what we use currently

[lethal steeple]

the 10mm thing comes from a sticker on the mag

[blissful ivy]

hes saying its apparently ball bearings

[near estuary]

could have sworn they're are like 2mm, not 10

[blissful ivy]

which just doesnt make sense, since thats not aerodynamic

[lethal steeple]

it's 2mm in one of the games

idk which

[blissful ivy]

so its illogical to assume ball bearings

[dusk vessel]

its not even consistent across games isnt it

[blissful ivy]

probably a tungsten dart or smth

[blissful ivy]

ofc

its not

[dusk vessel]

its a fictional rifle and being weaker than lapua doesent really add up

thats the tldr of this

[lethal steeple]

gemini

[dusk vessel]

ai overview

[lethal steeple]

shoot a gauss into your stomach

[blissful ivy]

true

[lyric tide]

Hey look it atleast references game files

Unlike y'all

[lethal steeple]

no game files describe it as 2.54mm

[blissful ivy]

can we trust that?

[lyric tide]

Pulling 10mm out yer asses

[blissful ivy]

you fucking clown

its still gemini

and its still stalker

which is notoriously inconsistent

[hushed pier]

Today shall be the day i complete this accursed challenge

[lyric tide]

I'd trust it to give me a recipe on how to turn your ball bearings into spikes ball bearings

[blissful ivy]

inconsistent

stalker being stalker

[dusk vessel]

its not even the size of the projectile

[blissful ivy]

the people who made it werent even sure

[lyric tide]

Damn, gauss cappin wit da 9 mike

[dusk vessel]

wasnt the whole point being it going extremely fast

[blissful ivy]

yes

[hollow wadi]

Much like X10 is the same as X19 because GSC couldn't decide

[dusk vessel]

if something tiny goes fast enough it will still cause extreme damage

[blissful ivy]

i mean the shock of something ripping through you at like 1/16th light speed or whatever would prolly kill you

[dusk vessel]

5,56x45 is the best example that we have of this

[lethal steeple]

nuh uh!!!!!! overpenetration is a thing and the wound channel will keyhole itself!!!!!!!

that's how it works

meteorite strikes be damned

[dusk vessel]

5.56 dumps a lot of energy as it hits

[blissful ivy]

like are we seriously saying that the high velocity is gonna make it less lethal?

[lethal steeple]

that shit would go straight through the fucking earth

[severe wren]

So, how does the meat rotting mechanic actually work? If i say, have accidentally left a pile of 18 dogmeat in garbage, and it's now 2 hours from rotting, does that mean that the ENTIRE stack will 'rot' 2 hours from now, or only one of the 18, and then the stack becomes 17 and the next one starts to rot?

[dusk vessel]

overpenetration is a complete myth

only exists for tank APHE rounds where the armour is too thin to trigger the explosive

[lyric tide]

Why do you want to know so specifically

[dusk vessel]

thats it

[lethal steeple]

there was a dude earlier that mentioned the overpen thing

[dusk vessel]

overpen is the most retarded thing ever

[severe wren]

im a pervet who likes knowing things

[hollow wadi]

For the sake of simplicity, assume the entire stack is about to go bad

[blissful ivy]

i mean if the gauss was for instance going 1/16th light speed, its still 18737028.6111 meters per second

im pretty sure something moving that fast would really hurt

[lyric tide]

I would argue it rots when the timer runs out if they all have the same shelf life lol

[blissful ivy]

18.7 million m/s vs human

probably dying

[severe wren]

Alright, so i'll need two fridges then, for meat thats about to rot, and for meat thats still good for a long time

[dusk vessel]

high velocity rounds dump their energy and create an expansion on entry

[celest sparrow]

...just put all of the fucking meat in one fridge?

[blissful ivy]

nothing rots in the fridge

[lethal steeple]

bro the speed of light is 300km/s

[blissful ivy]

just put it all in the damn fridge

[blissful ivy]

hold on a second

[dusk vessel]

if anything bigger and slower rounds have less expansion but go deeper

[lyric tide]

Im not sure about whether each item shares the same shelf life or if they conform to the highest in the stack, or maybe if they even calculate the middle

But you could experiment and tell us about it

[dusk vessel]

thats the whole point of hollowpoints, more expansion on impact

higher velocity has the same effect

just for different reason

[lethal steeple]

lmfao i got it wrong it was actually 300000km/s oop

[lyric tide]

did gemini tell you that

[blissful ivy]

i was just checking that XD

i thought that was really low

[lethal steeple]

yeah like writing it as km/s made me think

[blissful ivy]

you had me tweakin

[dusk vessel]

please god just make ai collapse so the brainrot can stop

[lethal steeple]

wait a second 300km/s is super small

[blissful ivy]

i was like "Am i stupid"

[lyric tide]

https://tenor.com/view/america-america-flag-sigma-baller-gif-4192599876740220832

[blissful ivy]

i mean i am

but like, i was just making sure i knew how to use a calculator

which i do

because i was right for once

[blissful ivy]

[hollow wadi]

This is why Momo went into IT and not physics

[lethal steeple]

so it's 1/20000th the speed of light

but that's still

magnitudes and magnitudes

faster than anything else

[lyric tide]

Bro you forgot 3 zeroes

[blissful ivy]

my point is just that thats a lotta m/s

[lethal steeple]

the fastest bullet in the game goes at like 8% of the gauss' bullet speed

[dusk vessel]

would be nice of velocity had an impact on damage in gamma

[blissful ivy]

and thats a lotta shock to the body

[dusk vessel]

and wasnt just bullet speed

[lethal steeple]

yeah point remains

[dusk vessel]

and i dont mean dropoff

[lethal steeple]

that's the thing

[blissful ivy]

so thats a lotta death

so i mean the gauss is the wonder weapon

it should be the stalker games ray gun

basically

not a glorified laser gun

should just decimate stalkers and shit

[lyric tide]

have you considered explosive weaponry

[blissful ivy]

ok you fucking clown THATS NOT THE POINT

[lyric tide]

[blissful ivy]

the point is the gauss sucking ass

[lethal steeple]

yes everyone has already but explosives don't play with gbo rules

[dusk vessel]

just checked the mp5sd muzzle velocity using the accurate stats mod

[lethal steeple]

that's why they feel so broken in gamma

[dusk vessel]

its 402m/s

[blissful ivy]

thats why a single grenade can one shot literally anyone

[lethal steeple]

it's just because they don't get to go through any of gbo's dogshit ass design

[lyric tide]

How bout ya muzzle this velocity
Okay that was bad

[dusk vessel]

its supposed to be just below 340

[lethal steeple]

why are you using the stats mod on 094

[blissful ivy]

supersonic yeah

nothing is subsonic

:(

[dusk vessel]

still works

just the bottom part doesent

this

[blissful ivy]

what bottom part

oh that, yeah thats fucked

[lethal steeple]

defensives also don't work

[lyric tide]

I think the guns themselves and their system plays part in real life in turning the round subsonic aswell

[lethal steeple]

because math got changed

[blissful ivy]

i learned the hard way its brokey

i used it, and its just wrong now

[dusk vessel]

im using it for gun stats mostly

not armour

[blissful ivy]

no its because gamma isnt real life so its just not always the same

as simple as that

same as how theres no guns being sold in gamma

[dusk vessel]

9x39 is also sub sonic nature

[blissful ivy]

just gameplay

[dusk vessel]

also supersonic ingame

[lethal steeple]

9x39 is usually above 500ms in game

[dusk vessel]

crazy

its supposed to be below 340

same as mp5sd

[lethal steeple]

same as .45

[blissful ivy]

same as all subsonic things

[dusk vessel]

i guess for gameplay its better..?

[lethal steeple]

yeah

[blissful ivy]

obviously

i mean yeah

[acoustic delta]

What is max range stat doing? Is the bullet just dropping fast after that limit?

[blissful ivy]

its gameplay

[graceful quiver]

Realistic Gamba wen

[blissful ivy]

max range is nothing

[lethal steeple]

bullet despawns at that point

[blissful ivy]

since its flavor text

[lethal steeple]

it's extremely far off

[blissful ivy]

since range past 360 dont matter