╓☢stalker-chat

[blissful ivy]

so pressed over 2 letters

but still it pisses me right off

[opaque moss]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-morgan-freeman-true-gif-14543545972329601863

[blissful ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1380189534611836999/1380234479616135249/image0-7.gif

[vast pumice]

a horde of zombies is one thing but when a controller is amongst them... good lord all mighty.

somehow, i got lucky and the controller went further into the woods to do its own thing lmao

and rushing a controller with a thompson aimed at his stupid face is a viable strat, btw

anyway, hope y'all doing better.

[hushed pier]

This charcter might be the one to make my invictus dream come true after 40 tries

[vast pumice]

holy shit~

man is a mobile tank with a fucking warehouse in the back

[hushed pier]

yeh i dont like the invetory mangement much lol

[vast pumice]

yeah, i think this is the invictus run

you gotta try to fail with this arsenal

and over 300kg

i really need to invest into a rhino

[wet grotto]

Fuck how am I gonna get 3000 shitty skorpions now

The economy is ruined

[vast pumice]

[hushed pier]

rpgs are nice

[valid rivet]

Don't crash out

[blissful ivy]

bro its been 40 minutes

who asked

deadass forgot what the fuck you were talking about for a minute

[wet grotto]

Why is the Ithaca reload so glacial

I can a three course dinner cooked by the time it's good to go

[blissful ivy]

because fuck you thats why

waste your time and make it a worse choice

[wet grotto]

So true

[blissful ivy]

i hate the ithaca for it

so i just dont

[valid rivet]

Lmaoooo don't crash out

Just a little bit of rage bait

[vast pumice]

[blissful ivy]

you a clown fr

[valid rivet]

Lmaooo

[trim juniper]

Made this for the apocalypse helmet mask overlay

[blissful ivy]

why anyone would use this is beyond me

[trim juniper]

Why the hell not. It’s realistic

[blissful ivy]

yeah but it fucking sucks for field of view XD

besides all the models ingame are depicted with raised visors afaik

the models you as a player have access to

[normal island]

Realistic often is interchangeable with dogshit in videogames

Having an overlay on the ENTIRE screen that doesn't let you see shit

Might fit on that criteria

[blissful ivy]

might

[trim juniper]

I think the whole point. You pick and choose what helm going out in the zone with

[blissful ivy]

[trim juniper]

You might pick something with better visibility

[blissful ivy]

well theres one thing thats for sure, it wouldnt be apocalypse helm

id pick a fucking rebreather over that

purely because of how vile that shit is

[valid rivet]

Really

[rose musk]

if the alternative is only being able to see 20% of the screen

i'd agree

[crystal fiber]

If only you could do this, at least
https://youtu.be/O7OiCWMNKBs?si=QA7f8dvXIR7bDQGG&t=4265

[blissful ivy]

yes

i am NOT tryna see exactly 10% of the screen i paid for

i paid for the whole monitor, im using the whole monitor

[agile epoch]

One of GAMMA's simple pleasures is starting a new game and going around to all the houses in rookie village and the meadow and picking up everything that isn't nailed down

[valid loom]

The hobo experience

[wild harbor]

im sorry its a ukranian game that just came out. supporting ukranians @burnt swallow

[burnt swallow]

no

[wild harbor]

k

[valid rivet]

10% is better for your eyes tho

[wet grotto]

Can I talk to traders without getting ventilated in a disguise?

[small ermine]

What did bro say ?

[thin orchid]

something about a milsim called glory to heroes

[small ermine]

[shell orchid]

Wait so am i not even allowed to loot an exo?

Shit disappeared before my very eyes

[stark wyvern]

only UNISG nosorogs dissapear, you need scavenging level 17

[sick yoke]

All nosorogs can despawn below scav 17

[wet grotto]

remember, Grok hates you

[idle valve]

80 fukin 4% burer skin

[wet grotto]

nice

[neon kelp]

WHAT IS THIS GRAPHICS MY MAN

Looks like a fucking picture

[oblique reef]

What grass mod?

[neon kelp]

how do you setup shit like that you sussy baka

I wish to be taught

Show me your ways

[idle valve]

😄

it's just SSS mod tweaks + PancerRide grass + AtmosR++ reshade with little tweaks

nothing signifficant tho, basically just maxed out GAMMA

[idle valve]

!SSS

[dawn marten]

@neon kelp

1.) Go to your GAMMA\downloads folder and delete ScreenSpaceShaders_Updatex.x.zip (x.x. means version number, and yes delete them all if you have multiple of those zip files)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/screen-space-shaders/

2.) Download the mod file from moddb. DO NOT EXTRACT.
3.) Place it into your GAMMA\downloads folder.
4.) Run the GAMMA Launcher as ADMIN.
5.) Uncheck/Disable these options:

• Check MD5
• Force git download
  6.) Click install / update G.A.M.M.A.

[celest sparrow]

Why even the command

[idle valve]

he wishes to be taught

might as well give some more info

[celest sparrow]

GAMMA already uses SSS

Unless they want to use SSS23, which they have to pay 3 dola for

[radiant star]

a kings ransome

[wet grotto]

the real challenge of clear sky is getting a nato weapon online fucking hell

[celest sparrow]

Grab AK

Turn into 5.56

[wet grotto]

I have an AEK sitting around but it's got a clapped out barrel I can't replace yet

the only thing I have that's an upgrade over my mauser is a VSS

but I can't buy optics for that from fucking spore

the bastard

so I probably have to go run jobs in cordon for a bit

[pale oxide]

where do I sit in hold ground mission I'm tired of being at the market also cant go deep there because they litterally spawn out of thin air

[celest sparrow]

I just sit at the top of the Market

[wet grotto]

be sure to refrigerate your cigs, for maximum freshness

[idle valve]

wait....

you can actually do that????

[wet grotto]

yeah totally

[idle valve]

so much rotten meat 😦

how does it work? the rot timer is frozen when the food is in fridge?

[wet grotto]

...wait you meant for the meat

[idle valve]

yeah

[wet grotto]

yes if it's in the fridge it can't rot

[idle valve]

the freeze mechanic

omg I feel stupid 😄

[wet grotto]

save your money and make one, only need basic tools for it

[idle valve]

I though fridge is just a decoration

I didn't actually thought of using a fridge as an ACTUAL fridge

[celest sparrow]

Reminder that Rotten Meat is the dumbest addition made to GAMMA

[idle valve]

me learning that GAMMA fridge be fridgin in 2025:

https://tenor.com/view/morning-sunshine-blind-bright-gif-5235310

[idle valve]

I just ramp up timers to max, I think its a good mechanic, because without fridge it forces you to regularly hunt for mutants if you want the best food with those buffs

[celest sparrow]

It's a stupid mechanic

[idle valve]

no mechanic is stupid, it might be stupid for you though

[celest sparrow]

It only affects you if you don't know about it, which is pretty much anyone new to the modpack or weren't here when it was discussed

[white wedge]

looks at cold coffee addition on to-do list

[celest sparrow]

"No mechanic is stupid"

[celest sparrow]

I swear if Grok works on it

[wet grotto]

he deleted it

so i assume he realized it was stupid

[celest sparrow]

Yeah cause it was dumb

[wet grotto]

it was

also my biggest grief with the mutant meals is that anything that isn't purified is basically not worth the effort

[celest sparrow]

Yeah, there's no reason to go for anything that isn't purified

[wet grotto]

getting non-radioactive food you don't need to get cooking materials for is infinitely cheaper and less hassle

[celest sparrow]

A rework for cooked food would be nice, it's too good for how cheap it is

[white wedge]

the stewed stuff is practically free and actually buying food is very pricey

but it doesn't matter when you get a whole mre 50% of the time for doing tasks

[wet grotto]

you only need max 2 tushonkas a day

which isn't even 4 grand if I remember right

[celest sparrow]

I just keep the MREs as a backup, keep that hunger up when I use a lot of meds

[white wedge]

if you don't use a single med maybe

one morphine is a whole meal

[wet grotto]

getting shot is a skill issue

[celest sparrow]

[wet grotto]

but yes even then, still

your biggest concern is meds not the food

food is trivial

[celest sparrow]

Food barely matters, it has some effect on Stamina Recovery but you can just ignore it

[wet grotto]

the tiers of cooked food should give you buffs still, however.
maybe less radiation to make them more appealing

[celest sparrow]

Yeah it needs some adjustment

[wet grotto]

I am stupid and cannot find this stash

it's not in the stupid ceiling bit of this church so I am at a loss

[white wedge]

have you considered not farming white stashes in swamp

speaking of skill issue

[wet grotto]

I was just picking it up on the way to cordon

[white wedge]

but there's some on the roof outside I think

[celest sparrow]

Pretty sure it was on the roof

Anyway rotten meat is stupid and anyone that thinks it's a good addition is also stupid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/517146444558499850/1369875046851543062/greybird1776_-_1920066630299627891.gif

[wet grotto]

gamma as a whole isn't explained very well to new users tbf

at least as much as can be found from the game, if you read about it before going in it's not an issue

[celest sparrow]

It's a known issue

[wet grotto]

we need to make it more confusing so even veterans are lost

what stupid spot for a stash, thank you

[celest sparrow]

Which is why we are introducing the Tutorial Framework

There's Guides for Armor, Repairing, and even Ballistics in the works for the next update

I think something for Rotting would be nice as well

Even though is still stupid

[idle valve]

this one's easy, you must go on the roof, its on the outer part (sout-east part of the roof), there is a backpack on the steep part of the roof or something like that 😉

literally on top of the roof, but on the steep part of it

[wet grotto]

I found it, as I said dumb spot lmao

[idle valve]

yeah but I like stashes like that, feel more earned 😄

but some spots are stupid true

[idle valve]

gamma is not for new users 😎

[idle valve]

+94% satiety from boar goulash is not stupid with this hunger simulator going on 😄

[celest sparrow]

How is that even related

[idle valve]

Idk if you mean something else

[celest sparrow]

I bring up oranges and you take apples to the discussion

[idle valve]

well I cant make that goulash if the meat is rot right?

soo there's your correlation

[wet grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brain-damage-funny-gif-9567713795855473020

[idle valve]

yes that's me, brain washed after my Brain Scorcher raid back in 2012

[thin orchid]

sometimes i wish i had actual brain damage irl

[idle valve]

you still didn't give a valid argument why its stupid tho, I will read it in the morning

[celest sparrow]

The mechanic stops being relevant after you get a fridge

You have 3 Days to get a Fridge (12 Hours) before your meat goes to waste and the only way that happens is if you don't know the mechanic exists

It does nothing other than fuck over new players and enforce players into having to build a hideout, which part of the community doesn't like to do as some prefer a nomadic playstyle

It gives the Fridge some use, by being another container you're forced to have in a Hideout

[wet grotto]

then hunt like a nomad, issue of skill

[celest sparrow]

I just get the Fridge around Day 1 or Day 2

[blissful ivy]

i just dont fuck with that fridge shit

[wet grotto]

I mean cooked food lasts for, what 7 days?

[blissful ivy]

i like compact and simple bases

[celest sparrow]

Yeah 7 Days, which is never going to spoil lol

[blissful ivy]

like im talking 2 crates and a workbench next to a technician

then i leave it there

[wet grotto]

so why the fuck does someone without a base care

[blissful ivy]

i just cranked the timers because fuck that shit XD

[wet grotto]

the only valid point is that it's a poorly explained mechanic that's liable to fuck over a new player trying to get some early quests done

[blissful ivy]

although i only use meat for artifacts

cooking requires effort and im not doing that

buy food easier so im really the one person who hates spoiling yet isnt affected

[celest sparrow]

You just get a lot of meat that goes to waste because there's no Tasks or have no reason to use it for Artifacts
Or one could sell it to Butcher tbh

[blissful ivy]

[wet grotto]

(meat prices could be buffed a bit, frankly)

[celest sparrow]

They kinda were iirc

Even then, who cares
You get 3 Days, which is a lot of time

[wet grotto]

still pretty bad honestly, unless you have a shotgun there's no way you're going positive

[celest sparrow]

I just believe that it added nothing other than confusion to people who didn't know about it

[blissful ivy]

and another thing to clear out of my stash

[celest sparrow]

I love having to check the Fridge shortly after checking the Artifact recipe cause I forgot to grab something instead of comfortably having everything in the same stash

[blissful ivy]

yeah thats why i keep the meat in my main stash

[wet grotto]

imagine not having twenty boxes for each flavor of cig at a minimum

[blissful ivy]

and since the timer is cranked

no issues

because i just made it a non issue

[celest sparrow]

You know an addition is stupid when people ask how to remove it or tune it for it to be a non-issue

[wet grotto]

counter point, people ask to remove the gun repairing stuff all the time

[celest sparrow]

They ask how to restore the "old" repairing despite not being that different
But people who ask how to remove gun repairing are also stupid, which I can't blame them for as they are most likely new to Anomaly

[wet grotto]

the repairing I remember is you walk up to a technician, give them cash and they polish everything and then you get them tools to make your guns heat seeking and also freon-cooled

[celest sparrow]

Yeah they just restore the Gun Condition and do Upgrades
Which the first is pointless due to the change made to Gun Condition, and the second is alright although you have to give out Tools in order to access those upgrades which you normally could do for free with an upgrade kit

[blissful ivy]

i mean if they want the boring repair, they should play EFP

its basically exactly that

[celest sparrow]

But you can't remove Gun Parts from GAMMA
That shit is deeply rooted

[blissful ivy]

i know

[wet grotto]

yes, but they still ask

ergo, it's bad

you said so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/436618431484395549/1341840453267488778/chad.gif

[blissful ivy]

ragebait used to be believable

[celest sparrow]

You just give them alternatives, or tell them to fuck off to another modpack where they don't have to deal with Grok's crap

[wet grotto]

@blissful ivy

[blissful ivy]

gonk makes many silly decisions

[blissful ivy]

i see that, but youre repurposing it and taking it out of context for the purpose of... fuck if i know idk man

[wet grotto]

I'm repurposing to paint the picture that the issue is that the mechanic isn't explained, not the mechanic itself

[blissful ivy]

anyways, i liked the old system of repairing more, but i dont care about the change

it still works

[celest sparrow]

Yeah the Tutorial Framework hopefully addresses the confusion in some aspects

[wet grotto]

one thing that should be killed is artefact crafting though, that annoys me

'oh yeah bro just uh, hook up this car battery to this flesh eye and you get a reality bending rock bro, trust me'

[celest sparrow]

Artefact Hunting used to be a lot more tedious, although it is somewhat understandable as to why people dislike the idea of having to use Mutant Parts for it

I just say "Ecologists found a way to harness the properties of Mutants into the Artifacts"

[wet grotto]

yeah you can explain it I just feel it undermines the whole concept, gameplay wise it's.. fine

[celest sparrow]

Too bad you can't restore how it previously was without having to do a lot of changes, which no one has bothered to do

[wet grotto]

it also makes artefact hunting as a whole much less profitable until you get the stupid melting kit

which is also a big annoyance

'reality bending rock? no it's got some scratches on it, anyway I'll pay you triple to get some papers for me'

[celest sparrow]

You used to not be able to sell Artifacts until they were 50% in Condition
And you required 4 - 5 to fully repair one

But you're able to sell Artifacts regardless of condition now, although you're really not going to make a lot of money out of it

It was thought that making money out of Artifacts shouldn't be that easy, but it was tuned to be a bit more approachable I guess

[wet grotto]

but like, why

the only consistent way of making cash as is really seems to be tasks, which I believe is just kinda meh? you're already required to do them to fast track stash getting

[celest sparrow]

Yeah the whole gameplay loop is focused around Tasks

As that's the only way to acquire Yellow Stash locations, and the best way to acquire money

[wet grotto]

that may be what Grok intended but I still feel it could be better, at least divorcing the need for money from them might give a bit more flexibility in how you play

[valid rivet]

Grok needs to remove alife I want stalker to feel like modern warfare

Also he needs to remove mutants

[celest sparrow]

It could always be better

People adjust how slow or fast they want the progression to be

[valid rivet]

Remove anomalies to

Stalker needs to be like call of duty

[celest sparrow]

I personally find the scavenging aspect to be not that prevalent as you're always able to purchase all the materials you need with ease, same with repairing Guns

[wet grotto]

trade destockifier fixes that at least (it should be enabled by default I feel)

[valid rivet]

Damn my rage bait didn't work

[celest sparrow]

I just think there's no sense of exploration when Stashes don't give out anything

[wet grotto]

the not marked ones? yeah

[celest sparrow]

It'd be nice if they gave out some materials, while Stash locations provide additional resources to them

[wet grotto]

I'm not sure what I changed but some of my stashes do spawn with some things in them, not much but I found a medium kit in one of them at some point

[celest sparrow]

You most likely modified some ZCP settings with Stash loot as it overrides Grok's treasure manager

[wet grotto]

...you are correct that is exactly what I did upon checking that

but yeah I think that's just another issue of tying progression so heavily to tasks

u vill run to ze waypoint, and then back

u vil go to ze marked stashes only, und u vil be happy..

[celest sparrow]

I guess the Bartering system is going to somewhat make up for it

Hopefully it would be another alternative to acquiring toold as it is with the Vodka trade for Basic Tools

[wet grotto]

sure, but if you could already decouple it now with a couple value changes and a few setting boxes getting ticked, why not

[celest sparrow]

I just don't bother with it

You can get some really good stuff out of it, which I probably won't take lol

[wet grotto]

I should be able to beat the game as a renegade without talking to a singular trader

[celest sparrow]

Renegades are fun to play as, but it's just Freeplay

[wet grotto]

freeplay is mostly the aspect I'm concerned with tbh I have no care to do the story stuff

[blissful ivy]

[celest sparrow]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat fell for it

For the first couple of seconds

[wet grotto]

is that surprising-

white name posting bullshit in there?

easy to believe lmao

[valid rivet]

Lmaoooo

[blissful ivy]

yeah i mean lil bro has the trolling starter kit

[valid rivet]

I'm doing harmless rage bait

I'm done for today and I'll wait another week to plant more bait

A fisherman must be patient

[celest sparrow]

It's easy to stir them up

[lethal steeple]

the removing anomalies and mutants bit was stretching it too far

[celest sparrow]

Kinda dislike the place now, they end up bullying people more than actually helping

[lethal steeple]

it loses steam

just leave it at removing alife

it has a lot more grace

[celest sparrow]

!noalife

[wet grotto]

Mostly because no one knows what it is

[dawn marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[valid rivet]

They might send a bomb through my mail

[wet grotto]

But it's provocative, gets the people going

[lethal steeple]

ye cause you know it's THE thing that makes stalker stalker brutha

THE defining feature

[valid rivet]

Yes

[celest sparrow]

A-Life was so good, they had to tune it down before release
The AI was able to complete the game before you in the early builds

[valid rivet]

Without a life you get stalker 2

And that shit boring

[wet grotto]

kill stealing FUCKS

[radiant star]

this guy gets it

[small ermine]

[valid rivet]

A week from now I'll deploy more ragebait

Which harmless ragebait is better

Give me 3 good ones

[wet grotto]

actually speaking of bait and fishing, when is it getting added grok

when can I get eaten by a giant mutant catfish

[valid rivet]

Hmmm

I'm surprised nobody made a little fishing mod

Swamps would be really useful

[wet grotto]

there is one for anomaly, someone posted it the other day

[valid rivet]

Oh shit

[small ermine]

murdered

[wet grotto]

lmao

[normal island]

I left my A-life on one day by accident

It graduated for me

Married my gf, had my kids

[celest sparrow]

True story

I was the kids

[little summit]

One jupiter. 7 pseudogiants. 0 pelts

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-tf2spy-spytf2-gif-19270816

And broken usp

[wet grotto]

what a score

I hate agroprom

always some bullshit

fucking black chimera running up on me while I'm trying to get some stupid documents

[little summit]

Never seen chimera in agroprom. Yet

[wet grotto]

agroprom is always a clusterfuck for me

[sinful osprey]

and military chasing you across the entire map if they smell the tiniest hint of you
I wiped out that entire military base the second I had the gear and a squad of 4-5 guys

[wet grotto]

that too. if you're going swamp to yantar, have to swing all the way along the right side and then go north unless you want to kill that whole fucking base

vss online, finally

but I'm not sure if it counts towards the RPG framework's sniper thing or not

if it doesn't I'll cry

got three ranks in the heavy weapons thing

[sonic verge]

I found my first today. I was at that northern complex, I was about to eat a can of tomatoes by a fire when one jumps at a guy approaching the campfire. I ran to the roof as fast as I could and tried to kill it. It killed two stalkers.

I figured a chimera attack would happen out in the wild, not in the middle of that place lol

[wet grotto]

I got jumped at that stupid little bus stop

[elder hawk]

game keeps crashing whenever i make a wish with the wishgranter

[hollow wadi]

!evilrock

[dawn marten]

@elder hawk Did you think the evil rock could win the game for you?
The evil rock remains evil ||and everything softlocks/crashes you ON PURPOSE.||
Go this way instead: Lost in CNPP?

[elder hawk]

what? WHAT

[hollow wadi]

The wish granter literally was never meant to be beneficial?

You fell for it

[elder hawk]

i guess im done w/ my military run

[hollow wadi]

Even without GAMMA

Riches makes you infinitely heavy because it spawns every single item on you, every time you drop the items too

Control the zone makes everyone and everything a controller

[elder hawk]

fitting

[hollow wadi]

Etc

[elder hawk]

i never knew the wish granter was evil

[hollow wadi]

???????

[wet grotto]

?????

[hollow wadi]

It's a literal flytrap

[elder hawk]

huh

[hollow wadi]

This is the Monolith

[elder hawk]

alr well how do i unlock sin faction

whats the cmd

[hollow wadi]

!factions

[dawn marten]

@elder hawk To unlock every faction from the beginning, you can type greh/renegades/isg/z when you start a new game in the character creation screen.
Since this sound strange, I literally mean "TYPE WITH YOUR KEYBOARD", you don't have an option where you can type in, like an actual console command.

For example, if you LITERALLY WRITE on your keyboard isg, and then you open the faction menu, you'll see the UNISG icon. Same goes for the other factions.
Another good example, ever played GTA? Do a "GTA cheat" in the character creation screen.

[little summit]

Psy device from stalker 2

Also fuck mosquitos

[daring crown]

why can I relate to this so hard

[cobalt glade]

We all can zdalger, we all can

[wet grotto]

I can't imagine being a living example of why the monolith has so much manpower

[cobalt glade]

Other than gameplay reasons yeah their numbers don't really make sense lore-wise I guess

[wet grotto]

it's a brainwashing cult

it's not that difficult to fathom

[hollow wadi]

But it does tho
First monolithians were the researchers and military personnel present at the creation of c-con

The rest are kidnapped or walk to the wish granter themselves

Or are zombified by the Brain Scorcher, then eventually turned full fledged Monolith

Lore-wise, the Brain Scorcher has its downtime during which stalkers can sneak deeper north, but that's likely rumours spread by the monolith
Strelok going through it in Clear Sky was a massive fluke

[cobalt glade]

harono I guess it does make more sense than not

There is also the question of how they can keep themselves supplied with top tier munitions but to be fair I prefer that question unanswered

[wet grotto]

you can handwave many things with 'mindcontrol'

[hollow wadi]

The c-con has many agents with the STALKER tattoo

Just have em be compelled to smuggle guns in

Extra shipment of guns for my military patrol, yup-yup, fellow c-con agent man that's installed in the government, nothing for others to check

[normal island]

Because

This applies for literally all the factions

[hollow wadi]

[cobalt glade]

Imma stay

[hollow wadi]

A lot of handwaving tbh

And that's fine

You're already willfully suspending your disbelief for "magic squishy rocks that cause and cure cancer at the same time gathered from rupture of space that locally turns a man into a meatball"

[wet grotto]

that you can also repair with this soldering iron and car battery with parts from the mutate pig you shot earlier

[little summit]

The game just took away from me sin nosorog/exo (I'm not sure which one)

It was chonky tho so ig that was nosorog

[tropic grove]

Did the Invictus channel get deleted?

[sick yoke]

!scavenging

[dawn marten]

If your Scavenging skill level is too low, items have a chance to despawn from the bodies you loot:

• F-1 grenades (100%)
• Nosorog exoskeletons (85%)
• Cz-M10 Spartan helmets (50%)
• other items except weapons and armor (0.25-4%)
  To avoid the despawn your Scavenging skill has to be level 17 or higher.

Additionally, in order to loot an outfit or a helmet from a body a certain rank value is required. The requirement is almost negligible, rank value as small as 7000 is enough to meet a rank requirement for any equipment.

[little summit]

I know

[daring crown]

there's no item called sin noso
there's only a sin exo

cs and sin don't have a nosorog

[valid kernel]

The adar really is just the best B weapon

Mainly because all I need to do after I get one is find any m4 with a decent barrek and BAM

Fully repaired Commando with no advanced tools in sight~

[wet grotto]

Pretty much yeah

[sinful osprey]

Felt a lil burned out on my current gamma save so I picked back up on CoP cause it's the only one of the trilogy I haven't finished

And God burers are so much fucking worse in that holy shit

Most enemies are more dangerous in gamma than in the base game but not those fuckers

[gaunt shuttle]

ok i need to ask, can you not compleate the MM quest if your not playing story mode?

get sorry, cant get the MM quest

[keen bronze]

It's a story quest from a storyline

What do you think

[harsh sandal]

[gaunt shuttle]

i have 31k and its not showing up at yantar

[keen bronze]

Bro does not think

[gaunt shuttle]

though i did kinda cheat a little but i didnt realise the changes to the mm and BS

[keen bronze]

Keep making money, it will show up eventually, trust

[gaunt shuttle]

spawned the psy hel

[neon kelp]

buueeee

[neon kelp]

Ain't they down if you're in freeplay?

[warped bay]

Is this quest timed?

[gaunt shuttle]

i have no idea

[keen bronze]

It doesn't matter, you need story mode to be active

If you want to freeplay or whatever, just don't take main quests

[gaunt shuttle]

so, the mm and the BS are off in freeplay?

[warped bay]

holy shit, it didn't even take a full mag of the USP Overwatch. No wonder grok's nerfing hydrashock

[random grail]

No

[cedar comet]

Pump action kings always eating good

[keen bronze]

You know that's a good question, check them out

[gaunt shuttle]

well i did try the MM and i couldnt pull the levers

like weeks ago

[burnt swallow]

yeah

theyre off

[burnt swallow]

[warped bay]

I forgot now... what's next? It's been a day after I gave him the gauss rifle

[cedar comet]

What's ur opinion of gammas default look my friend. I heard you have very strong thoughts on the matter

[burnt swallow]

mid

[cedar comet]

Bro you don't like MISERY aesthetics?

[burnt swallow]

i do

[cedar comet]

Ah.

So MORE grimdark then

[burnt swallow]

[cedar comet]

I gotta try out your mods later then and see

[burnt swallow]

pls dont

[cedar comet]

It's too late.

[burnt swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333905342844764251/1381596534935785532/sad.gif

[idle valve]

okay I see your point, first problem is they dont know about it, second is that some dont want to stick to one place

In terms of people not knowing, yeah some onboarding would be nice. I figured out about the mechanic by accidentally reading about it in the PDA guide. 😄

Second point is totally not my experience and I assume majority of players always have a "base", sort of, at the very least for storing the loot they have found, so that they can do crafting and upgrades/repairs in the future, without one central stash you can hardly do that and carrying all that loot around is unrealistic

I always make my central stash in Rostok near mechanic, unless I am hostile with Duty

Also, just because players get fridge doesnt make the mechanic completely irrelevant, they still have to return to their stash and store the found meat in the fridge, otherwise it'll rot, they have 3 days do it, which I'd say is plenty and definitely more than an average raid - after all, even if you throw this entire mechanic outta window, players always need to return to their stash at some point - definitely loot goblins like me, so I don't see this as such a big problem or stupid/irrelevant, maybe it could be improved tho

[idle valve]

my "default" look be like

[gaunt shuttle]

i like having a small little outpost to stor my shit and sleep so i welcome it

and the hell, graphically this is the best looking a stalker game can be xD

[steel mauve]

i open up chat and theres like 30 essays

[warped bay]

Technically Stalker 2 is still a stalker game

[warped bay]

I'm guessing you didn't read them

cuz gamma player

[steel mauve]

im a gamma player

we cant read

[gaunt shuttle]

kek

[warped bay]

[gaunt shuttle]

[steel mauve]

???

[graceful fulcrum]

[elder fog]

my minimap is gone, wat button do i press to reenable it?

[steel mauve]

wtf does this mean

[steel mauve]

/

[elder fog]

numpad enter doesnt seem to work

ty

[steel mauve]

i bet its cold

2 emissions in an hour

i wonder what this means

i exploded

i was inside tho

wtf

[idle valve]

you have brain damage, seek clinical help

[cedar comet]

Owned

[olive glade]

Oh wait i can talk here now

Newbies is more alive anyways

[celest sparrow]

#📎to-do message Based

[warped bay]

THERE'S M60 IN GAMMA???

[celest sparrow]

Anomaly has one, but it's blacklisted

[warped bay]

oh

[idle valve]

how can I switch modes on scope kit? what's the MCM keybind called?

[valid loom]

If you mean the ones with the canted sight, press V.

[idle valve]

I have detector on V, I have that functionality unbind, that's why I am asking how is it called

[celest sparrow]

Underbarrel Grenade Launcher

[steel mauve]

they call me a rat
i say im smart

i LOVE piling dead military

[valid loom]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/hideout-furniture-icons-descriptions

[celest sparrow]

Honestly, this is nice

[steel mauve]

11 shots left

[gaunt shuttle]

yea that can happen sometimes, just need to pay attention to what it says about seeking shelter too, if you were properly inside a building though might be best to find a different building

[green shale]

you know what other mod i should make for gamma? "furniture vendor normalizer". make it so that furnitures from all the furniture packs get sold everywhere instead of that thing where hideout furnitures expanded forgor that barkeep can't get to lvl 2, so only 4 traders in the whole game sells fridges

[burnt swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

usual veerserif W

[green shale]

oh actually this is really only a problem for Hideout Furnitures Expanded since they use the old DLTX override for traders instead of HF's bespoke injection method

ok time to fix this shit

[novel junco]

Just add an NPC that sells only furnitures so it doesn't bloat up every other trader's stocks

[celest sparrow]

Make Nimble sell Furniture instead of Gun Attachments

The UN finally caught up to his shenanigans, forced to sell Furniture

[green shale]

rn i've made it a FOMOD, one version only adds "appliances" (interactable items including stashes) to all vendors (so the player must craft all decorations). The other is the "full" version that adds absolutely everything, mimicking HF Expanded's setup

v2 is "do that but for all the furnitures"

[hollow wadi]

Congrats, you found the one spot indoors that explodes you
Now take cover in unroofed flea market

[valid loom]

Funny enough that happened to me recently when I was doing the hold the ground mission for duty.

[green shale]

And done: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1382005565462544475

[neon jacinth]

how do they power the fridges

add solar and battery banks now veer

and deisel generators

[green shale]

not my job, i just let 'em sell the damn things

also you know the answer is "artefact" lol

that fridge? also an anomaly

[rose musk]

a fridge that can keep a near unlimited ammount of meat perfectly cold and cause it to never degrade in quality

anomaly

[idle valve]

do recoil control upgrades actually do something? the stat number remains unchanged

[green shale]

!whatthegundoin

[dawn marten]

@green shale

• Handling: Reduces inaccuracy modifiers that are present ONLY when not aiming down sights. These include movement and stance (standing/crouched/prone).
• Reliability: Reduces the general condition loss after every shot.
• Accuracy: Tightens the dispersion cone regardless of firing from the hip or aiming down sights. These aren't as meaningful as you might think because a 0% accuracy gun has a 1.5° dispersion cone.
• Flatness: Increases bullet speed and also improves accuracy by a tiny amount. Damage drop-off is unaffected by these upgrades.
• Recoil: Decreases the camera climb when shooting. However, it does not reduce the camera shake.
• Fire rate: Increases RPM by a flat amount instead of being a multiplicative bonus. This bonus is usually the same number as what's displayed on the upgrade's info. i.e.: a 60% upgrade would be +60 RPM.

[green shale]

The answer seems to be: not much

[idle valve]

I mean, two upgrades doing -20% recoil should feel signifficant

I just tested on my fire range, -30% recoil worth of upgrades, the recoil is exactly the same

testing on Glock 19 hornet

so basically I am scammed by the game 😄

[burnt swallow]

ye should

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1258234075819544768

this gives some reason to them iirc

but momo would have to confirm

[celest sparrow]

Because Recoil Upgrades only lower Vertical Recoil and Camera Climb afaik
Which doesn't help if the Gun has an Animation Recoil that is pretty high

[celest sparrow]

Based Momo

I used it before, feels nice

[idle valve]

oh yeah this looks sweet!

[burnt swallow]

make sure you tweak mcm

cause by default its set to be fucking nuclear

[idle valve]

I am exactly testing how far the gun is moved vertically when shooting single rounds, weapon ends at exactly same spot after firing 3 rounds

[idle valve]

but does that mod actually makes recoil upgrades working?

[burnt swallow]

im not quite sure

[idle valve]

or its just new fancy recoil replacing vanilla one

[burnt swallow]

read the desc

iirc it does

but again not sure

[idle valve]

I will definitely look into that mod for sure thanks

[green shale]

the other thing is, the +/- % text on the tooltips are handwritten, not dynamically calculated, and are wrong for the vast, VAST majority of guns since some mods share gun upgrade trees

and those +/- % stats don't make sense if the tree wasn't designed for that specific gun

[wet grotto]

more mods I need to download? you mother fucker-

[green shale]

on top of that recoil control is a kind of nothing-ey stat because (IIRC) recoil in GAMMA has a huge degree of randomness and nothing you can do will adequately communicate this

[idle valve]

yeah this I am aware of, but still, I shoot 3 rounds before and after 30% recoil reduction, not a noticeable change

[celest sparrow]

It wouldn't be so bad if Upgrade Trees weren't so tedious to make

[green shale]

and i don't even mean "upgrading recoil reduces the randomness", it will still always be present

[celest sparrow]

That's most likely the animation

[idle valve]

so you are saying I should invest in other upgrades than recoil or the upgrade os only worth on specific weapons?

[wet grotto]

...wait I had a save where I bought a fridge from the bandit trader, what

[novel junco]

It is a great mod, even the exoskeletons and strength skills reduce overall recoil

[green shale]

only worth it on certain guns, but i don't remember which

[green shale]

yeah bandit traders have them by default without my mod

[idle valve]

well I am definitely not putting it on a peestol 😄

[green shale]

it's more that if you played as e.g. military you were absolutely fucked for finding a fridge for sale

[wet grotto]

oh they're just missing other stuff?

[green shale]

nah read the second comment on my mod thread lol - HF Expanded added its items only to Barkeep, Sid, Sakharov, Freedom and Bandit vendors by default

[wet grotto]

....yes, which I am saying that bandits were missing things besides a fridge

[green shale]

so if you're playing as a faction hostile to most/all of those factions you were kind of boned, and even then, people used to ask all the time where to find them because it's not obvious

[green shale]

weird because by default it's the other way around - bandit traders are one of the few to get everything added by that mod (beds, stoves, shelves, tables)

[wet grotto]

..I'm confused now I'm just going to download the mod

[idle valve]

dang

installing now

[wet grotto]

am I just bad or is 9x39 just a piss baby round

[small ermine]

I wish upgrades were more
Upgrady

[small ermine]

U bad
It's the current meta round

[wet grotto]

how the fuck does it take 9 shots to kill a pseudodog then

[celest sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333905342844764251/1381596534935785532/sad.gif

[small ermine]

Using ap round to hunt mutants

[wet grotto]

ah yes I forgot if you don't use the right bullet you do negative damage to mutants instead, just as grok intended

[small ermine]

Yep

It's that elite dangerous ground combat balance

Use laserz on shields if you don't it's 700 to break it

[wet grotto]

I wasn't even trying to hunt them they were just in the fucking way to shoot bandits

[idle valve]

I installed it, its great! even recoil upgrades are noticeable

[wet grotto]

finally, good lore

[steel mauve]

jarvis summerise this in 2 sentences

scrap that
1 sentence

[green shale]

Jarvis: read it yourself

[steel mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-hawk-hawk-tu-tuah-gif-3696881901305765010

some jarvis gifs are insane

jarvis 4th gif

[gaunt shuttle]

oh so i did test it out. the MM and the BS are off in free roam

[fair totem]

i see that the triple tap of doom is back

MM is cancer now wow

[cedar comet]

Buh?

[upper rock]

where is the principal base for mercenaries ?

[cedar comet]

Ded city

[fair totem]

I am simply salty

being shot at by people i cant see in complete darkness

[fallow hull]

thats why you have a headlamp and nvg's...generally try to stay on the border to be able to sleep

[cedar comet]

@lethal steeple I was thinking about what you were saying about hidden stats...

Momo are gamma weapons literally just all vibes?

What can one divine by stats

[burnt swallow]

yes

you dont need to ping that bozo, anybody can tell you that

only stats that matter is caliber and rpm

[wet grotto]

I love when the damage stat doesn't even display the damage correctly

🙏🏻 good video game

[proper drum]

who cares, after using it for a while you feel it

how much shots in what armor you need

[wet grotto]

you should care, because like many things with this mod pack it's horrible for learning

[proper drum]

yeah i do care much doing math in my head each time

[wet grotto]

me when I lie

[fair totem]

its not like the Modpack is at its 1.0 release

its fine

[wet grotto]

1.0 will fix, so true

[proper drum]

all you need to know is what bullet is capable of what

[cedar comet]

Fuck it then. New tooltip mod that permanently fixes this issue. Deletes all weapon and armor values and replaces them with how you "feel" about the weapon

[wet grotto]

yeah

if only the fucking gun told you that

[celest sparrow]

[burnt swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333905342844764251/1381761579447619664/oop.gif

[celest sparrow]

HP for Mutant
FMJ and AP for Stalker, easy

[fair totem]

real

[proper drum]

no i was serious

[celest sparrow]

Aim for Headshots and ignore AP

Cause AP only good if you suck at aiming

[cedar comet]

"this weapon makes you feel like a bitch"

[green shale]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1364286250428923914 mm i got you covered there

[proper drum]

like how much damage inflicted by 556 545 739 etc

[celest sparrow]

jfc

[green shale]

because "HP" is not a "real" stat and is something you need to handwrite

[celest sparrow]

I'm ignoring you

[green shale]

and also the bullet stats are a complete fiction

unless you get my mod

[celest sparrow]

You really just go for vibes

[wet grotto]

the bullet stats are whatever I make the funny number in my shitty dltx edit

[green shale]

again, hitting the head does 365% dmg, a damage boost so ridiculous that literally no other factor matters

[wet grotto]

holy shit headshots are that high?

[green shale]

yes

[celest sparrow]

Weapon looks >>>>>>> Anything else

[burnt swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1250941579645161476/1376297415879168030/ezgif-8d475822ffd635.gif

[proper drum]

i play just according to intuition and hearing what gun enemy has, no pain no gain.

[green shale]

compare to clavicle (aka "i clipped the top of the torso hitbox"), 70% dmg, or torso general dmg at 90%

limbs are even less, about 60% - 40%

[cedar comet]

Yeah that's why you can kill someone in an exo with 9x19 FMJ if you believe in yourself

[fair totem]

REAL REAL true

[cedar comet]

It's literally all vibes

[celest sparrow]

Yeah just aim for Headshots

Like, that's how you win

[green shale]

PLUS, the most armored helmet in the game only has an armor value of 30

[wet grotto]

the clavicle, known bullet resistant part of the body

[green shale]

not only is that easy as fuck to pen you can also just break that shit in 3-5 shots of... everything

[celest sparrow]

[green shale]

so it all boils down to "nail them in the head with any kind of fmj and they will die in about 1-3 shots. if they have a helmet, +3 to bullets needed"

"and if they're sin, double the amt of bullets/just use a grenade"

[cedar comet]

this is why the REX is my gun of choice

I have no fucking clue how it works

Only that it does.

[wet grotto]

.357 is a stupidly powerful round

[proper drum]

try winchester then xd

[cedar comet]

The irons blow

[green shale]

.357 has a really high bullet damage multiplier, yes

[wet grotto]

winchester does 208..? damage I think, it's been a minute since I checked

[green shale]

don't trust the stat cards on ammo

[proper drum]

well that's sick in balance when winchester damages 60% of your head in spartan (no extra ball res)

[wet grotto]

no this is from reading the spreadsheet

I did it when I buffed the mauser and mosin

[cedar comet]

You are using numbers instead of vibes

[wet grotto]

true

winchester does bigly damage

yuge even

[cedar comet]

Winchester cowboy gun kill good haha

[green shale]

Winchester 1873 would be doing a base of 70 x 2.6 = 182 dmg per shot

70 from the gun, x2.6 from the ammo

[wet grotto]

208, 182, close enough

[normal island]

Unless the thing you're shooting at has a thick jacket, then it just bounces off

[cedar comet]

"but how do I know if x gun is better than y gun of same calibre?"
You don't

[green shale]

AP of only 19 though

[cedar comet]

You must let the vibes decide

[wet grotto]

headshots though

[proper drum]

well even when you shoot military outfit you need 3 shots to kill an npc

[wet grotto]

it can go for awhile

[green shale]

you use my damage sim https://veerserif.pythonanywhere.com/

[proper drum]

berill takes ~6

but if you're in berill you die in 2 max 3

[celest sparrow]

.357 could use an AP increase to be honest
But it somewhat lands it as a Caliber that requires Headshots

[cedar comet]

IP grabber

Nice try but my booty hole will remain protected

[proper drum]

i did a whole winchester run once, eidolon ate something like 50 bullets xd

[cedar comet]

AP stands for absolutely pointless

[proper drum]

but sinners die in 1 headshot, helmless

[normal island]

Me and serious are talking about making a more RPG-y modpack, that was one of the ideas kinda

[cedar comet]

Like all savages, they fear the cowboy.

[celest sparrow]

Dude I'd love a RPG like Modpack
I want something a lot more Arcadey

[burnt swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1250941579645161476/1382044926321360976/ezgif-88106bd3d093b1.gif

[green shale]

mm yeah that checks out

(simulated torso shot on Military wearing Berill-5M, at 50m)

[celest sparrow]

4 of those shots is just trying to break Armor, I love GBO

[cedar comet]

I think if a gun sounds louder you should use it

[wet grotto]

lmao

[normal island]

join us

[celest sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1123879388786729022/1164882953604702269/cat_1-1-1-1.gif

[cedar comet]

Make it where instead of stats, weapons are just arbitrarily MMO colored

[wet grotto]

true

we need borderlands looting

[cedar comet]

Omg PURPS

ITS PURPLE ITS BETTER

[green shale]

"guns have variable stats on drop" lmao

[normal island]

That's an idea we're considering

[celest sparrow]

Didn't Grok wanted to do that, or am I thinking of something else

[green shale]

i mean you could quite easily do something like that

[normal island]

The variable stats, not the colors

[celest sparrow]

I don't remember, my brain is fucking mush right now

[wet grotto]

it could be interesting, at least

[green shale]

my only possible contribution to that would be project management

[cedar comet]

No when I mean arbitrarily I mean full on bad faith they are literally not different at all

[celest sparrow]

Do the colors as well

[wet grotto]

the colors are vitally important

[cedar comet]

They are only different to us. Because vibes

You WILL throw away your green AN94 in favor of the orange TOZ

[fair totem]

if i get a legendary toz ill use it yeah

[wet grotto]

tediore toz, bottom text

[celest sparrow]

My green AK74 the moment I get a Pearlescent Makarov PM

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-drop-andy-sad-gif-3101954698583639925

[normal island]

Bro you made a damage calculator

That's more than I can do code wise

[cedar comet]

RED IZ SHOOTIER

[burnt swallow]

ngl i could use another midpack to bust

the case file situation has been dry lately

[cedar comet]

Psycasting....strelok is Wizard IN THE ZONE

[green shale]

otoh there's a reason i had to bait Serious into making tougher gun repairs for gamma with me

[celest sparrow]

Turning Stalker into Borderlands would be peak

[fair totem]

turning EFT into Stalker would be peak

[celest sparrow]

[fair totem]

a boy can dream of such a game

[cedar comet]

Whew. This is pretty eye opening shit

[green shale]

mm yes i lost my mind for six weeks writing that thing

to be clear i'd never made a project of that size in python before, but the thing that made me lose my shit was trying to understand GBO

python was easy by comparison

[celest sparrow]

Never open grok_bo.script
You will hate every second of it

[cedar comet]

I can't fucking believe that an AKMS vs an ADAR is literally just one extra shot before killing a skat 9 mono....

I've been fooled all my life

[green shale]

most stat differences in GBO boil down to "+/- 1 bullet at best"

[cedar comet]

I'm guessing recoil is even harder to know

Based on stats

[green shale]

oh recoil is a complete shitshow because the recoil system has a significant degree of randomness which is... hard-to-impossible to communicate in a single stat

[cedar comet]

That's not even taking upgrades into account

[normal island]

That's the difference

I didn't have to bait him

[cedar comet]

Gamma enhanced recoil....

[prisma crag]

Fuck it I'm reinstalling but on my PC at work

[cedar comet]

Obscuration to the max

[green shale]

nah recoil is random in anomaly too, it's an engine thing

[cedar comet]

How random are we talking, like so random that not one gun is lower recoil than the other or?

[normal island]

Main problem imo are the firing animations themselves

Oflin was talking about that in newbies the other day

[celest sparrow]

That's the main issue

[normal island]

If you compare the Deagle vs the Coonan or the Rex, it feels like the Deagle has this INSANELY high recoild compared to the other two, even though the camera climb is the same

[cedar comet]

The deagle is nuts yea

[normal island]

Why? Because the Deagle's fire animation was made by a proffessional animator that made it like it's firing .50 AE

While the coonan uses a .45 ACP firing animation and the Rex is just mid

And no matter how much you change the stats and the engine handling and what not, it will always feel like the Deagle has way more recoil

[cedar comet]

Oh god wait so when I spam click my deagle I'm not actually hitting the sky?

Like it looks like I am?

[sick yoke]

Something something old wolfenstein Thompson

[green shale]

let's see. (these are gun-only stats)

• Handling is real but doesn't have a huge impact. Its upgrades are bullshit though
• Range absolutely does not matter, ranges on guns largely are longer than the entire area you're in end-to-end.
• Bullet speed only matters if you're using one of the handfuls of guns that don't shoot completely straight.
• Recoil has so much fucking randomness that if you discount screen shake, a gun that has higher "recoil" on paper can just perform worse than another.
• Damage matters (modified by the bullet) but hitting the head has the most impact.
• Armor pen is completely dictated by the bullet
• Reliability works weird now that overall condition is locked
  So you're left with the only stats that matter really being "does it take a scope I like", "does it take a UGL", and "what's the mag size and RPM"

[normal island]

Range matters on shotguns

[green shale]

oh also a ton of the mod added guns just have minimal recoil anyway

or really weird recoil patterns

[sick yoke]

Range doesn’t matter and that should be instantly obvious to anyone with 2 working eyes and a connected braincell honestly

[cedar comet]

Yeah range is a meme

[green shale]

counterpoint, shortest range on a shotgun is 200m * 0.75 = 150m (TOZ 106 shooting 20x70 buckshot), I think you mean damage fall-off, which is completely unrelated to the gun and is a bullet-only stat

[cedar comet]

Damage falloff is errthang

[normal island]

No I mean the higher the range on a shotgun the tighter the spread

Which means, functionally, higher damage

[sick yoke]

“Hm this ar has 1000m max range”
“This other ar and this one too and actually all of the ars except this one all have 1000m max range”

[celest sparrow]

I weirdly believe that Handling would be nice if Accuracy wasn't so "Accurate", even at Range
Like weapons with High Handling but Low Accuracy are immediately indicative that they should be used at CQC

Range could also be heavily reduced to make Snipers actually play a role

[green shale]

in fairness then you may as well say accuracy matters

[sick yoke]

“Damn range must not matter”

[normal island]

It absolutely does yeah

Accuracy + range upgrades on a shotgun is a deadly combo

In my personal modlist which has almost 1000 guns in the game, the best shotgun is still my VR80 because I gave it super long range

And that thing is functionally a sniper rifle

[green shale]

but accuracy is already weirdly tight for the majority of guns even at low stat

[celest sparrow]

Flatness Upgrades are good on shotguns cause they provide a small increase to Accuracy within the upgrade presets

[green shale]

it's actually why the TOZ 106 was a mutant sniper

[celest sparrow]

Yeah which is why I mentioned the above

Accuracy hardly matters

[green shale]

yup

[normal island]

Idk how we are (potentially) doing dmg in our pack but it's certainly not going to be tarkov like lol

[celest sparrow]

At least outside of Shotguns

[cedar comet]

Vibe weapons. You have to fire em to see.

[celest sparrow]

Nothing is OP if everything is OP type beat

[cedar comet]

Re-add the minigun

[normal island]

Nah it's probably going to be more videogame-y balance and progression

early guns have low dmg, end game guns have higher dmg

Like almost every single videogame in history has done lol

[celest sparrow]

Will keep away the GAMMA players

[green shale]

yeah insisting that more or less every type of bullet should be able to one/two-tap every human enemy in the head, is a design decision that heavily constrains everything you can do around weapon balancing

moreso if you then decide to go Full Tarkov with every other weapon stat

[cedar comet]

I don't really mind the GAMMA ballistics. My only gripe is that you have to spend so much time investing into repairing a weapon with no reasonable way of knowing whether or not it's an upgrade or side grade

Meanwhile tarkov you just buy and try

[green shale]

see i happen to think the single best part of gamma is the early game where it forces you to scrabble for any kind of decent weapon at all

[celest sparrow]

Well yeah it's the only good part

[cedar comet]

Yeah thats fun

[green shale]

if i wanted a tacticool shooter, that's done better by a dozen other games out there

[celest sparrow]

No one ever talks about the Ballistics or the Progression

Cause it is rightfully bad

[cedar comet]

But those are it's two main things jim

[green shale]

the economy changes? goated. everything else? ehhHhh

[normal island]

I mean that's not a concern really

We're not going for the "GAMMA killer we're dead bethesda devs" vibe

[slate raven]

[cedar comet]

Yeah solid ehhh from me as well. I bitch because tasks are lame I want more Freeplay options.

[slate raven]

What we yappin about today lads

[cedar comet]

Even misery allowed you to profit from killing stalkers and mutants without tasking

And misery was made by braindead EVE players

[harsh sandal]

Anything that's non invictus related

[celest sparrow]

BETTER THAN ANOMALY AND STALKER 2, THE NEW GAMMA KILLER IS HERE. IT DOESN'T FAKE SURVIVAL AND THERE'S OPEN WORLD STUFF. IT WILL MAKE YOU SHIT, FART AND PISS YOURSELF

[slate raven]

As per usual, even when the channel was around we did this

[cedar comet]

[harsh sandal]

[cedar comet]

Allah forgive me for uttering this phrase: EFP

[harsh sandal]

Your name did not make the situation less funny

[slate raven]

[cedar comet]

Deep down inside, we're all fucking retards

[celest sparrow]

Just nice to see there being a different focus when most recent stuff is just tactislop

[cedar comet]

We love slop here

[normal island]

I think the only pack that's not going for that in Anomaly is..... bosspack?

Can't think of any other

[cedar comet]

Vanilla Anomaly ballistics...

shoots self

[harsh sandal]

[normal island]

Anomaly's ballistics are perfectly fine

[cedar comet]

No they are not

[normal island]

They're not unintuitive

They work

[celest sparrow]

We gotta embrace Stalker's arcadey nature

[normal island]

They're simple

[cedar comet]

I HATE sponges

[green shale]

it's completely fine if you don't insist that the only acceptable ballistics are muh realismos

[normal island]

There's no secret formulas or hacks you need to know about

[cedar comet]

I despise sponges in my shootan

[harsh sandal]

Me when 12x55 is trash in vanilla anomaly

[normal island]

Then why are you playing GAMMA

there's nothing more bullet spongy than Sin in GAMMA

[celest sparrow]

Grok is holding my family hostage

[slate raven]

Just shoot sin with hp

[cedar comet]

Its on the upper limit of my tolerances without being unacceptable

[green shale]

I mean even with HP they still just have a flat secret -70% DMG res

[normal island]

Like sure, Castigators are also super spongy in vanilla Anomaly but that's kinda the point

[green shale]

Grenades bypass the bullshit however

[harsh sandal]

Remember when UNISG mofos teleport away when they takes damage?

[normal island]

And Eidolon you can kill with the gauss rifle

[harsh sandal]

Gamma could have been worse

[cedar comet]

Iirc vanilla Anomaly you could not kill anyone with a pistol

[normal island]

Apart from those, Anomaly's enemies are not super spongy

[cedar comet]

Save for God's most toilet papered bandit

[normal island]

This is a massive skill issue

[cedar comet]

I don't really remember it tbh

[slate raven]

Sin don’t have flat 70% dr, thought that got brought down to like 30-40% forever ago

[harsh sandal]

[normal island]

I've done countless pistol raids

[cedar comet]

Its been so long

[normal island]

It's not an issue

[harsh sandal]

My pistol runs in vanilla anomaly belike

[celest sparrow]

They do have 70%

[harsh sandal]

[slate raven]

Then why the hell can I knife them and do decently?

[cedar comet]

I do remember killing a single merc in anomaly and instantly becoming God

[green shale]

They also have -30% AP res

[cedar comet]

In the cordon

[slate raven]

The ap res is normal yeah

[green shale]

Because it only applies to bullets fired by the player

[celest sparrow]

UNISG receive a 35% Damage Reduction and 30% AP Reduction
Monolith receive a 20% Damage Reduction and 10% AP Reduction
Sin recieve a 70% Damage Reduction and 10% AP Reduction
Bandit receive a 10% AP Increase

[slate raven]

I’m gonna go buckshot a sin and then see how many fmj 5.45 it takes compared to it

[green shale]

Iirc melee is handled through vanilla Anomaly DMG scripts which bypasses the whole damage res bullshit

[celest sparrow]

It takes 2 5.45 FMJ to the head

Unarmored of course

[slate raven]

Bc I remember people bitching and moaning about 70% dr (it’s me, I’m people) like 6-8 months back or further

[harsh sandal]

Frankly bandit suits are going to have less BRC in the next patches.
Bandit experience for real

[celest sparrow]

People still complain about it

[cedar comet]

God it's been a little too long since I tried a different mod maybe it's time to finally leave gamma behind and try some good old slavshit

[slate raven]

And then it got patched to be more reasonable, least that’s what I recall

I used to no be able to melee them btw

[cedar comet]

I will not be doing EFP. No more tarkovshit for this clown

[green shale]

Oh nah that shit (sin dmg res) hasn't changed in at least a year

[slate raven]

Even with axe/sledge

Doing melee only invictus runs and they used to be a massive roadblock

[harsh sandal]

The only thing I remember is that they removed AP from PK/PKM/PKP so sins cant nuke us

[slate raven]

That’s good

Placebo effect ig

Either way sin aren’t that bad imo

[harsh sandal]

Not really, I found UNISG more problematic cuz they have armor

[slate raven]

Unless you get jumped in RF

[normal island]

doesn't like bullet sponges
Doesn't like tarkovshit
Gamma player

[slate raven]

Then it’s a problem

[normal island]

[harsh sandal]

But yeah

[celest sparrow]

Sin hurt a lot

[slate raven]

ISG with the armor plus good guns do shred yeah

[harsh sandal]

Melee is inconsistent on sins.
Sometimes it's oneshot, sometimes doesn't

[idle valve]

where can I disable pseudogiant blast damage?

[harsh sandal]

[celest sparrow]

They're really meant to be big bullies

[slate raven]

I had an old clip of me smacking a sin with an axe and nearly level 20 strength and he ate 3 headshots

Lost to time tho

[celest sparrow]

But Sin / UNISG / Monolith always shred when they use AP regardless of rank

Just don't get hit 5head

[harsh sandal]

Me and my survival kit

Good old time

[celest sparrow]

Survival kits were removed

[slate raven]

But sin doesn’t always have ap as mentioned above, so they’re less of a threat than isg overall imo

[celest sparrow]

Cause Grok dislikes fun

[harsh sandal]

Yeah

[celest sparrow]

They always use AP

[gaunt agate]

Killing myself

[celest sparrow]

The only exception are LMGs that don't have AP ammo

[harsh sandal]

Survival kit was my stable on every merc run

[slate raven]

Yes but it’s still an exception

Whereas isg and mono 100% of the time have ap

[slate raven]

So sin ain’t too bad

[celest sparrow]

Which is like 2 guns out of the 20 they use

But not always am I right

[slate raven]

More often than not I get pkp/pkm sin so it’s likely just bias

[harsh sandal]

Not really

Half of them use 9x39

[slate raven]

Easiest enemy in the game is the chimera tho hands down

I say this with 0 intent to shitpost

[celest sparrow]

Giants and Chimeras

[slate raven]

[celest sparrow]

I love to fight both

[harsh sandal]

Flesh

[slate raven]

I’ll brb, gonna go snag lunch

[celest sparrow]

Flesh are like a dice roll

You never expect them to aggro on you

[harsh sandal]

Nah

More like

Waiting to see what it will do most of the time

[celest sparrow]

I like Flesh that travel across the map to bite my ankle just because they happen to hit a stupid Electro

[harsh sandal]

Every freakin time

Where is the last target????

Open PDA

It's on the other side of the map

[celest sparrow]

[slate raven]

Welp nvm bout lunch, gonna just heat up something here bc it’s pouring rain and I don’t wanna drive in that

[slate raven]

I hate this shit so much

[harsh sandal]

If you want it, you have to take it

Regardless the weather

Anyway g9 stalkers

[slate raven]

[prisma crag]

reinstalling, yes I'm aware I will need to update my launcher and update when I'm done

[burnt swallow]

no

lmfao

get the correct launcher and then install

[prisma crag]

Too late

[burnt swallow]

this is literally for nothing

[prisma crag]

[burnt swallow]

[prisma crag]

Fuck you I will install it as I please

[burnt swallow]

sorry for trying to help you moron

[fair totem]

[burnt swallow]

have this for later https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/922555488665743391

[prisma crag]

I know how to fix it, this isnt my first time reinstalling

[burnt swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1250941579645161476/1382044926321360976/ezgif-88106bd3d093b1.gif

[fair totem]

bruhhhhhh

comedy gold

[prisma crag]

my 2nd time reinstalling I did it wrong and troubleshooted it myself

[burnt swallow]

yee

delete old install -> get a new one

immense troubleshoot