💣tarkov-released

[fast garden]

for the barter man

[viral egret]

yeah

shipping delay 2 no?

oh

i have one

gonna hit the ultimate move

[fast garden]

go unlock the barter i trust you

you can do it

[viral egret]

im gonna do the whole questline

just for it

[fast garden]

worth

[viral egret]

how bad ccould it be

[fast garden]

i first tried it man you got this

when the tarkov task got more than 3 objectives

you can do it man

[compact knoll]

tarkov isnt bad when you dont have a bitch in your ear telling you to do transits

[fast garden]

i dont hate them

but damn do you need time to commit to that

[cyan garnet]

Someone really sat down and was like lets design the worst transit task imaginable

[fast garden]

i love tarkov because with a little bit of spawn luck and a lot of patience anyone can do this

its how i did it anyway

[stark torrent]

did ur friend did the arena thee

what is the new quest

[fast garden]

ill let you know the next time we play

bc i want to know too

[ancient marsh]

cant you just check

in the completed tab?

SECOND PLACE

sween is so fucked bro

[stark torrent]

loool

[stark torrent]

oh my god that is terrible

WHY

[stark torrent]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HCOZbVaXAAAR_Es.webp

[ancient marsh]

that one is old tho

i think they removed the uh

[stark torrent]

yeah still bad

[ancient marsh]

1 mil per attempt

quest?

[stark torrent]

they removed the 1 mil

[ancient marsh]

wtf

i didnt get any rewards

aloooooooooooooooooo MODS

[cyan garnet]

Strange i dont have any of those tasks from ref or in arena

[stark torrent]

if u finished it

[cyan garnet]

If ive already done great heights?

[stark torrent]

yes the whole theta

[viral egret]

gg bro

mauled by the animals

[cyan garnet]

[compact knoll]

@viral egret

[viral egret]

@little flame

[viral egret]

putting words in my mouth

fucking skeleton

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1446708571147472896/1468275507882754130/image_48_1.gif

[compact knoll]

keep waking up at 6 you little fucker

[viral egret]

yeah yeah

get it right atleast its 5 am

not my fault class starts at 7 and its in the middle of bumfuckistan

[compact knoll]

no car in your family or what

[viral egret]

my parents both go to work

i go with public transport for now but ill get my driving permit just to wake up more late

drive to school is like 40 min

[remote fox]

He is Romanian, his car gets broken into every morning, you never know if it's there.

[viral egret]

true react this guy

[stark torrent]

@floral orbit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tqz2tdXg20

OUUUUSKH

OUUUSKHA

[remote fox]

How many Total Wars are coming out?

These guys are cooking.

[floral orbit]

2

[floral orbit]

looks good

[floral orbit]

medieval 3 and warhammer 40k

[stark torrent]

die ottoman

[little flame]

gl

[floral orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/crusaders-ave-maria-templars-deus-vult-gif-14798873

that movie was so good

we are doing head to head in m3 and you will like it @stark torrent

can't wait for dlcs for hre and mongols

[stark torrent]

[stark torrent]

you have time to get a job by the time they release it

get that money

200 euro game

[floral orbit]

depends

if they make a good job yes

if not the game will die with 2-3 dlcs

[stark torrent]

real

[viral egret]

cant wait to fight eoc

[compact knoll]

https://youtu.be/0XVtzCg3ci0?t=233

@ancient marsh

timecode

[ancient marsh]

WOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

you fucking then-you

[fast garden]

im excited for warhammer total war ngl

[compact knoll]

https://youtu.be/0XVtzCg3ci0?t=301

@ancient marsh @little flame

2 for 1

2 keks there

https://youtu.be/0XVtzCg3ci0?t=412

@ancient marsh

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eye-staring-gif-24666090

artem the type of guy to go to a hibachi grill place and suck the meat sample off the chef guy's fingers with full eye contact

[soft coral]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

what kind of divine intervention prompted you to type that and then say to yourself yeah that looks good
and hit enter

[viral egret]

youre one to talk

[soft coral]

stfu

[hollow patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-maytech-monolith-prayer-gif-16869366242639767810

[viral egret]

just saying

[hallow stream]

Enough of them for them to never be finished for the next 10 years

i cant wait for the 800 DLCs man

[viral egret]

absolutely unprompted

[hallow stream]

he isnt gei btw

hey I am not gei
geiest thing youve ever heard:

[soft coral]

thats precisely why she likes me

[remote fox]

The first thing he does when he likes a girl is suck off his dad?

Ok bro.

[viral egret]

yeah thats precisely why you wont leave her basement ever

youre gonna tread into the fucking unknown dangers

[soft coral]

ay some die of thirst while others drown

[viral egret]

that lie there

[fast garden]

Pretty much

[soft coral]

[remote fox]

Is that the guy from Harry Potter?

It is.

[compact knoll]

https://youtu.be/0XVtzCg3ci0?t=515

@ancient marsh

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[ancient marsh]

WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

https://tenor.com/view/pat-bev-shocked-pat-bev-karl-malone-pat-bev-podcast-gif-12913250704725443206

[soft coral]

like watching the mona lisa being painted

[viral egret]

what the fuuck

@little flame have ue ver se nthis thing

[remote fox]

[ancient marsh]

WOAH

[soft coral]

MOTTTSSS

[stark torrent]

oh

oh the pistol grip lowers recoil now

[ancient marsh]

hey cryon can you log off iedy's acc pls

i literally talked about this

fucking unc

[cyan garnet]

[stark torrent]

sorry i ignore retards

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-funny-dance-sticker-gif-3260242979081122677

[stark torrent]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jadeyanh-jadey-itsjadeyanh-LNZbin64gT0kjIqo09

[ancient marsh]

WOAH

bad combo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQRytLuAWgs

[stark torrent]

Fuck the waffle is gutted , zero ergo

[ancient marsh]

didnt watch yet but i bet its informative

[stark torrent]

it has good recoil but the ergo got cut out

[ancient marsh]

yeee

@stark torrent db4tarkov is a site thats already up to date

on all the stats

https://db4tarkov.com/market

it has a gun builder too

wtfffffffffffffff

@stark torrent the 2 piece loud break is -10 recoil

for 556

the cqb + CRD

sorry

-10 ergo

it used to be like -2

what the fuck are the devs doing bro

these ergo nerfs are too harsh

@stark torrent name any gun

db4tarkov has like an AI gun builder thingy

it made those 2 builds above too

RC2 best in slot for 556

[stark torrent]

damn expensive as shit guns

[ancient marsh]

NL

[fast garden]

same with bmd

[ancient marsh]

60 ergo is really good

[fast garden]

again

[fast garden]

chatgpt generated patch notes

[ancient marsh]

rip stock best ergo stock

better by a mile than ace + pad

[ancient marsh]

ultra 5 best supp for ergo and recoil

[stark torrent]

did they stealth change these

[ancient marsh]

in which way

[stark torrent]

didnt the normal stanag have better ergo still

when we tried it

[ancient marsh]

no

the pmag had better ergo

like before

[stark torrent]

but its just much heavier

its almost 5 times heavier jesus

its made of cockium

[ancient marsh]

yeah and evo ergo means stanag is better

even with less ergo

it has more evo ergo

lol

@stark torrent name some guns and ill post meta builds for them @little flame @viral egret @remote fox

[stark torrent]

NL , Mutant , M4

[remote fox]

AKM?

[stark torrent]

fuck you

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/folk-druski-sona-instagram-instagram-meme-gif-18271404859547050805

AKM in bigger than average 26

[stark torrent]

SR 25 and RSASS

[remote fox]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-gif-27657295

[remote fox]

He already did SR-25, unc.

[stark torrent]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smell-PsvD1p3IthN96

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent if i make like a collage of the guns as images will u pin them for ez access

[ancient marsh]

no im gonna revise it, AI is a good start but i double check

[stark torrent]

wait rip stock

[viral egret]

can you do the ak74m

[ancient marsh]

who tf uses that bro

[viral egret]

its cheap and decent

[viral egret]

im broke

m4a1 i guess

if yu havent done it

[ancient marsh]

ill make ill make

[viral egret]

who tf even uses aything but m4 and nl

maybe g36 i havent tried that dogshit in a while

[stark torrent]

the ak74m and ak 12 rn are loud meta

the ergo is out of the window with any 60 rounders

and the waffle

and other supressors are just shit

they are only good for the sag ak

[fast garden]

"meta" 40 ergo

[fast garden]

m4 got off easy tbh

one of the few guns you can still have good ergo on

[stark torrent]

they kinda made the SAD QI mandatory now

that shit is just miles better than any other handguard but its 72k to trader

a lot

[fast garden]

the uh

theres a couple other that arent that much different i thought

like yeah sai is bis

[stark torrent]

thing is , the best supressor is the AEM which only works on the MK 16 and 18 barrels

and those will not take some handguards i guess

you trade supressor for that i guess

but it does take the SAI QD so if u want best in slot you use both

but its not cheap

[fast garden]

saker asr still seems good?

[viral egret]

mediocre

ultra 5 better

[remote fox]

Did they change the prices of the attachments?

[viral egret]

i think

[viral egret]

no

[fast garden]

dont think so

[viral egret]

SAI handguards were always 70k+

[fast garden]

which is even fucking weirder

[stark torrent]

this is with the mk18 barrel for the good supressor and the normal 18 inch for the other two

you get a lot more ergo i guess with the saker and ultra

but a bit worse recoil than with the mk18 AEM

[fast garden]

is the ace stock really the move

wasnt it like super fucking heavy

[stark torrent]

and this is the jailbreak loud

which is mediocre and not worth it cause of the muzzle shit

[stark torrent]

it kinda is yeah i tried the other combinatiosn they have worse stats

[fast garden]

its kinda heavy though?

does the extra weight not counter the 4 ergo difference from the ak12 stock

i dont actually know

[fast garden]

what site does xal use

DD sucks now

[stark torrent]

yeah DD is ggs

[fast garden]

i was using either the ds150 or ak12

ds150 heavy too tho

[stark torrent]

hmmm indeed the ACR is heavy too

the ak 12 one is 500g lighter

for 4 ergo....maybe

but god it looks like shit what is this man

AK 12 stock part better than 90% of aftermarket FUCK OFF

[fast garden]

holy bsg bias

[stark torrent]

also ak12 stock on an m4 is just cursed i cant man

[fast garden]

oh also

the hk slim line has good stats

however

.7kg

dude

why did bsg nerf the fuck out of ergo and recoil on everything

what the fuck man

this update is just worse than what we had before

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent

[stark torrent]

yeah overall it nerfed guns especially the ergo

[ancient marsh]

2 nls
ak74m
rsass
sr25
akm
m4

[ancient marsh]

yeah across the board weapon stat nerf in every aspect

[fast garden]

shit update gg

didnt even rebalance prices either

[ancient marsh]

really really needless and i bet they worked on it for a while

[stark torrent]

get that rip stock out of my face

what is this man

ptoey

i guess the weight or why is it better than acr at least

Magpul AFG seem to be the best in slot grip as well

they ahve perfect balance of recoil and ergo

[fast garden]

im so sad man

why couldnt we have had like

EMOD be bis

emod stock is badass

[stark torrent]

hmmm what about mutante

[fast garden]

broad recoil nerf means mutant is instantly unusable

that gun already barely held together before this

[fast garden]

xal what site is it

[ancient marsh]

https://db4tarkov.com/

it's really really good

bro even the min recoil loud build is less than 40 ergo

on the mutant

and it runs LOUD

[fast garden]

yeah mutant got fucked

ee evo ergo?

[ancient marsh]

?

[fast garden]

im trying to figure out what all this shit means

[stark torrent]

damn short mutant is dogshit

[ancient marsh]

evo ergo is combo of weight + ergo stat as an effect on weapon handling

for example if u have a gun with 50 ergo and 10 kilo weight, and a gun with 50 ergo and 3 kilo weight

they handle differently

which is why theres no reason to put ergo parts on stuff like PKM or RPD

[ancient marsh]

evo ergo in the green = no weapon overswing on ADS

select the gas tube part and click optimized

ace is best overall imo

[fast garden]

i see

[ancient marsh]

3 less recoil % but 25 evo ergo swing

they could have just like

buffed bad weapon parts

or split them into tiers

like the problem they tried to fix had a much much simpler fix bro

like if theres 5 attachments

50 attachments*

make 4 or 5 tiers

of like +2 +5 +10 +15 ergo

and the diff between the rest is completely cosmetic

[stark torrent]

you know the more ironic part

they did this update to make ppl more cosmetic guns , but overall the guns look worse

[ancient marsh]

yeah and because they nerfed gun stats across the board

you are way more desperate

for better stats

fucking retard devs bro

as i said the retards could have just buffed bad parts

[stark torrent]

oh god xal

[ancient marsh]

what now

[stark torrent]

what about the X 17

and the blackout

[fast garden]

imma check mcx

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent

wtf the ergo is really good on it?

it's not heavy either

[stark torrent]

hmm with the 50s ?

[fast garden]

16in barrel not max thats the thing

[stark torrent]

it will still overswing cause weight of the .308 bullets

[fast garden]

longest barrel usually sucks

[ancient marsh]

even with the drum

the ergo is still manageable

in the green (without any sights tho)

[fast garden]

scope and ammo and rip

[stark torrent]

yeah with a razor is -4 and the weight of the ammo is a lot

still

[ancient marsh]

im not making max recoil reduction builds bro

[stark torrent]

i was expceting it to be 2 ergo

[ancient marsh]

im making meta

lowest recoil isnt meta

[fast garden]

yeah im not either

but longest barrel on some guns for accuracy is nice

sometimes

like mcx

[ancient marsh]

with longest barrel

[ancient marsh]

accuracy is massive cope stat

genuinely

[fast garden]

thats okay man

you can be a little wrong

[ancient marsh]

i did calibration and sbih, accuracy is a cope stat

[stark torrent]

sir everytime you missed a headshot you raged

[fast garden]

mcx is still great

[stark torrent]

great i guess

well

[ancient marsh]

every single gun is either
accurate enough to hit something at a range of 200 meters (maximum range of absolute majority of fights)
or it shoots a bullet that's so weak, even if you hit the guy it wouldnt kill

[fast garden]

and ive sniped people from weather station to car exfil with the mosin it matters when it matters

so i like long barrels because i take those shots

[ancient marsh]

that falls into the first category

[stark torrent]

it is a 1% stat i think and only at extreme ranges

[fast garden]

again some guns it matters more

mcx base accuracy sucks

[ancient marsh]

yeah only for airwingmarines proned up on lh island with a thermal axmc

[stark torrent]

also the bullet has accuracy debuffs etc

[fast garden]

long barrel fixes it mostly

within 2 moa is fine, a little lower is passable on most maps

[stark torrent]

did u go to the interview

[fast garden]

yeah i came back i was the only one they liked

[stark torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-gif-15583178749253214866

Unemployed and Employed reaction :

ggs man , hope for the best

[fast garden]

for the uh

7.62x51 guns

whats best supp?

[ancient marsh]

which is literally the accuracy range for every used gun i nthe game btw, which is why i say accuracy is a cope stat

[fast garden]

ultra?

[stark torrent]

its still the qdc

for recoil

[ancient marsh]

ultra

[stark torrent]

ultra for a balance

[ancient marsh]

best recoil / ergo combo

[stark torrent]

ultra gonna be 300k

[fast garden]

im just saying

p sure the stock here is bis for mcx and the longest handguard is worse than the 12in

[stark torrent]

ooo sexy

it is cause u cant put other supressors on the 12 in

BSG

[fast garden]

forgot about that lol

[ancient marsh]

qdc is -12% recoil, but -42 evo ergo
ultra is -10.5% but is -22 evo ergo

recoil is FINE in tarkov right now

[fast garden]

that evo ergo is ham

[ancient marsh]

most guns are manageable even with no mods

[fast garden]

ultra weighs nothing

[ancient marsh]

ye

[fast garden]

my goat

[stark torrent]

what the fuck is the evo ergo man

[ancient marsh]

its ergo is also 11

that's like

old mini monstr tier

[fast garden]

real ergonomics

[ancient marsh]

mini monster used to be like -7 ergo

[ancient marsh]

weight + ergo stat ratio

[stark torrent]

ahh i see

[ancient marsh]

since weight affects weapon ergonomics too

which is why lighter guns are rly important

[stark torrent]

yeah the overswing and stamina and shit

[ancient marsh]

ye

mcx is very very light

you can genuinely run the lowest recoil build

[ancient marsh]

dont run 40 rounder

run 100 round cock

genuinely

they uberbuffed it

[fast garden]

with cqc scope true yeah

ergo a little low with it and scope

[ancient marsh]

look at ts

[fast garden]

prob more realistic to run 60s anyway

scope + tac device?

[fast garden]

its everywhere

[ancient marsh]

with a 60 and scope

and light

[fast garden]

wonder how the mdr is feeling right now

[ancient marsh]

762 or 556

[fast garden]

both really

though i dont ever use the 556

[ancient marsh]

pretty good actually

long barrel

long barrel drum

short + drum

[fast garden]

not a huge difference between short and long barrels here

mdr is solid mcx is solid m4 is m4

[ancient marsh]

drum medium barrel

[fast garden]

mutant is prob more ass

[ancient marsh]

yeahhhhhh it rly needs the recoil reduction, now its ergo is nerfed on top of recoil nerf

BSG has like 2-3 wipes of mutant BP spam

and was like

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[fast garden]

took bro out back gg

[ancient marsh]

the people's Mutant build

this is when it just came out

[fast garden]

i wish there was better variety with m4 parts man

the only handguards with more ergo than sai is ugly delta carbon and the wingandskull

[ancient marsh]

no sorry you get meta reshuffle with actually more aggressive meta

[stark torrent]

I tried long mutant rn its ass

[ancient marsh]

wingskull is a trojan horse ergo part - cant mount foregrip lol

[stark torrent]

7.62x39 is ass in general this wipe

Best gun is the RPD or SKS

[ancient marsh]

sks BEEN solid

good gun genuinely

[fast garden]

sks stays good

[ancient marsh]

just no reason to run 762 39 sadly

[fast garden]

the only reason people ran it so much was flea market a while back lmao

[ancient marsh]

i was massively wrong on the NL personally and im glad i was

i thought it would be a complete non-issue gun no one would run

how wrong i was

[fast garden]

you guys were hating on it and i thought that was weird

before it came out

[stark torrent]

NL

[fast garden]

i saw the vision

[ancient marsh]

this is the Richard Lewis "League of Legends will die in a year and dota will be the biggest esport" statement of tarkov

[stark torrent]

I didnt hate on it i knew it was gonna be betrer than everything cause it had 800 and 850 rpm while the ak 12 only had 700

[ancient marsh]

i was just using my head with BSG balancing in mind

[fast garden]

league will die in a year and deadlock will be the biggest esport

[stark torrent]

But it used fucking m4 parts

So gg

[ancient marsh]

do you realize

the NL rape emporium

if it took 60 rounders

[stark torrent]

Yeah God had to intervene there

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/israel-lion-yeshua-consuming-fire-king-of-kings-gif-6495941002956083919

[stark torrent]

No NL in arena

[fast garden]

you know

i think the rfb benefits a lot from these changes

a lot of random ass weapons basically got buffed while everything else got blasted

[ancient marsh]

"Jeffrey Epstein set to release from jail in 2 weeks" is the announcement that NL is coming to arena

[stark torrent]

What of g28

[fast garden]

sa58 30s are 2 ergo diff from 20s

why are all my game menus so fucking slow now

[ancient marsh]

yeaaah no buddy

[fast garden]

yeah with 30s before it was like 30 ergo

[fast garden]

it was worse before basically

[ancient marsh]

evo still in the red tho

[ancient marsh]

that stock is bad

its like 1 kilo

[stark torrent]

G28 is kinda light?

[fast garden]

the other one is the bad one

[stark torrent]

The one with the cheek is bad

[fast garden]

always has been light

[stark torrent]

Yeah

Coolgers

[fast garden]

main reason to use it, thermals for aim time

[fast garden]

so all the stocks suck gg

better to just take the one that doesnt add a full kg atp

[fast garden]

3.7kg thats why its the goat (unloaded)

[ancient marsh]

oh yeah i mistook

the stock ur using

is the good one

even if the ergo is way lower

[fast garden]

aug seems good

[ancient marsh]

this one is way lighter

@stark torrent

i think g28 is meta 308 gun

3 kilo is insanelyt light

[fast garden]

yeah because theres no scope on it you tard

its the same fucking build

[ancient marsh]

no

i was building the gun with no scope

but with the other stock

and it had the same weight

as your one with flir

and i was like sth is wrong

[fast garden]

yeah the stock is fucked

actual numberslop stock

HK is meh whatever

recoil is gonna hurt it

dude

why did they do this to ergo

im crine

[ancient marsh]

svd worse than before bro

😭

this build was like 57 ergo bro

44 now with ACE stock

[fast garden]

fuck no man hahahaha

thats fucking awful

mpx with drums might be fire now

part meta for that is basically the same

use ronin 12in supp

[ancient marsh]

sir it's 9mm and everyone finished calibration

and have infinity altyns

[fast garden]

trueg

forgot its been like 4 months

wait a second

but isnt everyone prestigeing

did mod4 get worse ergo it kinda looks like it

[ancient marsh]

ok

old queefgg video

me building that now

[fast garden]

oh its got wayyy less ergo gotta be

wait

he has the jailbreak ripped off

nvm

[ancient marsh]

i think the loud version does

[fast garden]

i will never understand taking the good parts off of the gun

[ancient marsh]

is the jailbreak build the suppressed or loud?

i genuinely dont know

[fast garden]

they are both supressed

its a fucking val

[ancient marsh]

no i dont htink so

[blazing basin]

could you even angle the mag forward enough to remove it with that goofy ahh foregrip in the way?

[ancient marsh]

actually idk

[ancient marsh]

shhhhhhhhhh

[fast garden]

also he doesnt have the RELOAD FASTER attachment on

lmfao

[blazing basin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shh-cats

[ancient marsh]

the what

[fast garden]

its the exact same here as it is in screenshot

[ancient marsh]

...

i feel like that is supposed to come with the gun

but doesnt?

[fast garden]

costs extra bozo

[ancient marsh]

does it actually change reload speed

[fast garden]

yes

its rather noticable

its nice

200 euro from skier iirc

[ancient marsh]

...

[fast garden]

no one else who plays this game looks at attachments man god bless

i post new g36 top "rail" and get called retarded because you think im referring to the handguard

[ancient marsh]

fault of tarkov for including random shit into a patch and not actually having accurate patchnotes

like youd get 3 weeks of content creators saying "is this new?"

after a patch

[fast garden]

and thats why i always look because that is true

tldr patch

every gun got marginally worse, mutant unusable bc of that, some off meta or lesser used weapons ie aug/mcx are more appealing bc of that

also big mag meta

hm

i dont remember ergo on this being at that amount before

too heavy to not overswing tho im sure

its kinda weird that grips dont give much ergo now

[ancient marsh]

Wait

Holy shit

While trying to find screenshots of an old ash 12 build

I just realized

Instant jam fix with no inspect button on arena

[fast garden]

[ancient marsh]

Is the result of them making a bunch of arena skills level 51

[fast garden]

[ancient marsh]

Such as malfunction

[fast garden]

god damnit

[ancient marsh]

Its not like a core mechanic

[fast garden]

its a fucking elite perk

god bless

i didnt know they did that for arena

[ancient marsh]

😭

[ancient marsh]

Yeah str end and malf

[fast garden]

they gave everyone max stn end

[ancient marsh]

Metabolism for some reason is at lvl 1

[fast garden]

lord save me

[fast garden]

doesnt it affect buff or debuff timers

makes sense

to keep it simple

[ancient marsh]

I guess

[fast garden]

i mean when a buff timer says 300 seconds, but everyone has metab so its actually 500

or whatever it is

[floral orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neW-_HJ4Vjc
found the original 6-7 Dmitri @ancient marsh @stark torrent @viral egret @little flame @remote fox

[hallow stream]

Kind of crazy marathon has a higher player count than tarkov

[fast garden]

actual glaze reviews

i dont get it

"and i hope its not an exfil game"

[fast garden]

according to what

we dont even see most of tarkovs active players

[gritty python]

bout to say steam player count is not the only measure of tarkov players

[fast garden]

its a very very small amount of them

[gritty python]

Like 7k last i checked

[fast garden]

17k 24hr peak

[remote fox]

There are like 7 people max in my raids

Clearly the player count is something like 8.

You people really believe those made up numbers?

[fast garden]

steam says like 80something k for mara

steam had like steady 300kish for a while for arc raiders

[glacial haven]

Funny enough, those are retarded easy to fake

You literally just need a steam account and the steamapi.dll

That's about it

For paid games, you also need a key

[remote fox]

Can't devs just generate a bunch of them?

[glacial haven]

Infinite through the Steam website, yes

[remote fox]

[glacial haven]

Nevermind, they pulled back on that guideline a few years back as it seems

It's limited now to about 7.5K

I don't think they're faking that number but it's obvious that Marathon would've had high numbers right from the start

It's more about keeping that number high

Maybe the game is an absolute banger and I am just not the target demographic, I haven't met anyone in the target demographic up until now but there must be at least 87661 people in it

[fast garden]

on steam alone

i expect the larger playerbase is console

[glacial haven]

Very possible, yeah

[remote fox]

Their Reddit was flooded with Steam chart posts

[cyan garnet]

Most people play through the launcher not steam

[glacial haven]

Interesting, I didn't know there were previous games already called Marathon

Even have the same Logo lmao

[stark torrent]

Goon Morning

[cyan garnet]

Ubey

[keen sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5okZ08vWL00 @stark torrent because you have braincells

[ancient marsh]

slop shit of tomorrow
vs
slop shit of forever

[little flame]

5

FUCKING

PINGS

I WAS SLEEPING

[viral egret]

did u sleep well

[little flame]

Kinda

Wbu

[viral egret]

alright

went to school an shi but its friday so

gonna get out early hopwfully

[left beacon]

What time zone?

Just had school Friday too

Not just had but I had school today

8:30 now tho

[viral egret]

utc +2 or something

romania time

[stark torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378462007740731513/1478300067277570200/caption.gif

[little flame]

https://klipy.com/gifs/-25377

[hollow patrol]

never goon kys

[little flame]

@viral egret

[viral egret]

ggwp

[little flame]

fucking finally

cancer boss on infernum

[hollow patrol]

ok go exo mechs

[next temple]

There is a reason i dont play LoL

[little flame]

play infernum first lil bro

[hollow patrol]

noob.

[little flame]

yes

i am noob

[hollow patrol]

ez

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent @compact knoll HAHAHAHAHAHHA

[stark torrent]

Yeah and many quests dont work

Listen man, this game is in that dogshit state again

Where BSG does nothing for 3 months

Then they start fixing what they broke

They kinda fucked the guns as well with the attachements

They need to increase ergo on all base guns imo

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1rm900v/comment/o8xq2s2/

made a thread, already got a retard

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-dunk-contest-air-jordan-amazing-dunk-goat-gif-17298668

BSG when it's time to make the worst choice:

[soft coral]

yeah cuz game shit

I though we already knew that

[viral egret]

wrong image reply but still

iritiate is wild

[little flame]

@viral egret tarkov?

[viral egret]

not hom

[little flame]

when ur home?

[viral egret]

ye sure

[little flame]

aight ping me when

[stark torrent]

Nikita Goon Arc

[hollow patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[hallow stream]

Shit got 75k players max including steam plus launcher

[cyan garnet]

Doubt

It has more players then that

[hallow stream]

Maybe 80k but no fucking more

Nikita posted somewhat realistic mumbers when he posted the endings people got

[lethal vault]

can we possibly talk about the latest in new lore 40k?

instead of political bs

[viral egret]

kill

[lethal vault]

[viral egret]

check where u are

[lethal vault]

oh wait

mb

[hallow stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931627162124050442/1478416487386714143/image.png?ex=69ab9de6&is=69aa4c66&hm=f55317cc6e82ea0958a049b8faa19933a2aada91ad92521f970e41a224086173&

[lethal vault]

i never read channel names

[hallow stream]

Like ye nobody wants to play this asshole game for more than 40 hours

Solid chunk of the players stopped playing mid wipe

Like usual

[cyan garnet]

Not many people will even make it to terminal

Bad measurement of playerbase

[hallow stream]

Shit not

Its as simple as people who are less mentally ill got weeded out over the years of this game being out and stopped playing

[cyan garnet]

You can just admit you were filtered its okay

[hallow stream]

I never grinded for kappa true

Thank God for that I would put a bullet in my head after all the dog shit horrible quests in this game

[little flame]

fuck i love this boss

[hallow stream]

Specifically all the lighthouse quests

Just delete the fucking map at this point

[soft coral]

@little flame @stark torrent I just realized what it says on the top left of the tigz splint

[hallow stream]

Oh my god

[soft coral]

WTF

[hallow stream]

67

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[soft coral]

https://tenor.com/view/trick2g-gif-23510728

[stark torrent]

it sells to therpaist for 6767 rubles

[soft coral]

We're so fucked

[little flame]

therpaist

[soft coral]

https://open.spotify.com/track/40wIBKTng6rwglc6Z3X8yx?si=72b0efd96e274f71
@little flame @stark torrent

what a voice

[viral egret]

@little flame im home but i think i wont play tark for now cause its getting boring for me

maybe if we get a third we can run trio

immaj ust progress infernum

[little flame]

ye all good

[viral egret]

@stark torrent @ancient marsh @little flame the setups this game has me running to save money

[fast garden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/s/xlioNwpjvT

The only reason I’m gonna play marathon is because my little brother bought it for some reason

So I will try to give the game as much of a Fair chance as possible

But so much of it I just do not vibe with

The scumbag mtx in a 40 dollar game is already souring it

[viral egret]

schedule a execution

[glacial haven]

I was about to say "How else is a free game going to monetise itself", then I remembered the game is 40$ retail lmao

[fast garden]

It’s specifically that it’s scumbag mtx, not just mtx

A skin for 1120 but the closest bundle of currency is 1100

And from that post apparently things like gun charms are not some universal thing

You get a gun charm it can go on one gun, you have to get a duplicate to have another one

And yeah, bungie is doing this in a 40 dollar game

[glacial haven]

That one is also interesting, that's the kinda shit that Clash Of Clans would pull off lmao

[fast garden]

Ok sidebar

I’m pretty sure clash of clans has never has some predatory shit like that

[glacial haven]

I mean, you're locked out of progression for weeks if you don't buy those retarded gems

You can actively play the game for 30 minutes once you first start out without having to use gems

And I am not even kidding, some of those upgrades take extremely fucking long

[fast garden]

I think that’s a sort of common misunderstanding about what to do in the game

Unless you are talking about your own troops?

And in that case, yeah I hated boom beach for that as much as I otherwise liked the game, but they made troop training like instant in clash a while back because it’s just more fun that way

[glacial haven]

I am generally speaking about the fact that you're either going to very very slowly progress with upgrades or you invest money into the game but to be fair it's a free game

So them trying to really move you to buy currency is more acceptable than if they charged 40$ for it up-front

And double dipping with 1100 and 500 packs is a wild choice to do so lmao

[fast garden]

It’s definitely a slow burn game but idk that’s part of what makes some people proud to have high level accounts

But back to marathon yea

Bungie are a bunch of fucking scumbags for this shit

None of the skins even look great man that’s the worst part

They are all but one just recolors

[glacial haven]

You just get shit with it I would imagine, I haven't really played a lot of it, there was a hype phase in my school back then and only the autistic kids got hung up on it

[glacial haven]

That one I haven't read the first time

Apparently not a lot of people are impressed with them

[fast garden]

There were plans internally in bungie for destiny 2 some time ago where they wanted to make shaders, color changing items you can apply to about everything for customization, something you had to pay money for a limited amount of

[compact knoll]

what the fuck is this lego gun

[fast garden]

Bungie unironically has hitler in the basement coming up with monetization strategy

[glacial haven]

So they had a somewhat cool idea and immediately had to fuck it with extreme limits

Very nice

[fast garden]

Look I know it’s basically just me here but I actually think the art style is cool as fuck especially as it’s something new

[fast garden]

Modern bungie is so fucking good at it it angers me to no end

[cyan garnet]

steiners extraction slop with save us

[glacial haven]

Look man, that "sight" looks like a 64x64 algorithmically generated nft that no one wanted to buy, so they just put it on a gun instead

[fast garden]

If they weren’t so hell bent on ruining everything good they make maybe people would give there games a chance

[glacial haven]

Not all of the designs are bad but that sight really does not look great

[compact knoll]

what are you doing mein fuhrer

[fast garden]

But 10+ years of destiny and hearing all the bullshit they have done will turn off most players from anything new

[fast garden]

its basically like a smart sight cover, it opens up when you aim

[fast garden]

theres a lot of stuff like that that will make a bit more sense with context as long as you dont outright hate progression

[stark torrent]

Oh look a christmas tree

[fast garden]

man i love clash of clans

[glacial haven]

If I wouldn't know how hard they raped Destiny 2 with extremely scummy tactics, I would honestly give Marathon a try, the game isn't necessarily up my alley but it looks different enough from the rest to try it

But Destiny 2 is like Auschwitz of Content, that game had seasons you paid money for, literal DLC's and they were just ripped from your hands the moment they decided it's time for the next one

With them not even being able to recover them either, I would rather wait until I see that Marathon isn't just going to carbon-copy that tactic

[fast garden]

i am getting ready for TH15

oohrah

[glacial haven]

"How do you know that I never had a girlfriend?"

[stark torrent]

this is the 1st time i open the game in 2 years i think

i havent been playing since i finished high school

[fast garden]

I’m still using a th13 base iirc

[compact knoll]

getting thmogged by iedy

[glacial haven]

Let's be fair, Iedy was there when Supercell was founded, he had a head start

What's the other one they made? Some farming game

[stark torrent]

https://youtu.be/XNQbH1SDPRk?t=70

timestamp

[glacial haven]

Hay Day, that one my Aunt played a ton

[stark torrent]

ohhh fuck yeah that game

that one was very very dependable on you being online every single hour

[glacial haven]

Either that or you had deep pockets

[compact knoll]

should have put ICE on their back

boys is so obviosly political kek

[stark torrent]

[native crypt]

[compact knoll]

not even that its politcal, but thats its obviosly one sided

and portrays the other side as a caricature kek

[next temple]

the showrunners got swapped afaik so now its just leftoid cucks

like the first two seasons were great, then third season devolved into some melodrama for marvel fans who want to be edgy and watch nihilist bs

[cyan garnet]

yeah first two seasons were peak

fell off hard after that

[next temple]

The series died when soldier boy got put on ice

[fast garden]

the show was always overly edgy

[next temple]

there is a difference between being ironic and having some substance and then having your characters kill a bunch of neo-nazis who are also orthodox jews

that is an actual fucking episode in season 3 btw

[fast garden]

idk man the boys is fucking retarded

[compact knoll]

god

PHONETICS FUCKING SUCK

[next temple]

The comic is fucking insane yeah

season 1 was quite good cause it felt refreshing and didnt try too hard to explain why the villains are not great people, it gave it's characters all motivation they needed and they could have just went on from there where inch by inch they were getting to their goals.

[glacial haven]

I never watched the boys but this explanation of the actions taken in the show sound absolutely retarded

[fast garden]

you can pick any one episode and watch and see for yourself

[next temple]

compare S1E1 to S3E2 f.e

and you will see how insane the change of tone is

[glacial haven]

I would prefer just staying in the dark, the show is weird as hell man

[next temple]

Dont blame you

if you want an amazing show suggestion watch Generation Kill

or knight of the seven kingdoms if you like medieval stuff

[next temple]

Rogue Heroes is also baller

[glacial haven]

A good question would be though, if the show dramatically changed in it's tone and the entire production leads were swapped, what was the reason for that to happen in the first place

Shouldn't they want to keep working on it?

[next temple]

i am not too versed in the politics of hollywood, it's a viper pit

probably some rich investor wanted to have the show portray his political views so he pressured the managment

[glacial haven]

checks out

[next temple]

or some writers and the "I can do it better" types got hired instead

i fucking hate revisionists who go in and try to mess with the original formula of a show/story

it ends up feeling like a fanfic and has no respect for the source material

like motherfucker go on and make something of your own stuff inspired by the thing you wanna change instead of smearing your fecal matter all over it and call it "better writing"

[glacial haven]

I know what that feels like, look at Two and a half men, probably still my favourite sitcom

Once they removed Charlie, the tone of that show changed dramatically

[next temple]

Warhammer, Star Wars etc. in my case

Warhammer is getting disgustingly retarded and dumbed down

[glacial haven]

I know that Charlie was very much causing trouble but them trying to continue the show without him was an absolutely astonishing attempt

Literally replacing the lead and then attempting to salvage it

[next temple]

a fuck ton of lore but it's just literal slop which adds no nuance or interest to the universe

[glacial haven]

And killing him off with a fucking piano falling from the sky

[next temple]

if i was in charge of GW lore dept. i would straight up revert lore to 7th edition and retconn the metric fuck ton of content which is just writers writing themselves into a corner

cause by god a lot of shit nowadays was just unnecessary

[native crypt]

And if you go back that far there might still be writers for Xenos books that are worth a damn

[fast garden]

i would not have ever been interested in any warhammer were it not for rouge trader

sm2 was fine, darktide is fine

those were fun games

[next temple]

why do we need arks of omen
why do we need primarchs coming back en masse like we are declaring that the end times are near
why are we sidelining some of the most important races in favor of fucking cadians, the blandest guard unit there is
why do we need dozens of new setting antagonists and vashtorr when fucking BE'LAKOR EXISTS

[fast garden]

but rouge trader actually made me interested in the world

[next temple]

why did we sideline the legion of the damned
why did we sideline dozens of imperial guard regiments with very deeply written lore like the vostroyans or armageddon steel legion

hell even elysians

[fast garden]

i actually dont understand the cadian glaze like there arent other guard units

like, i dont know many, but i know there are others that are probably just as cool

[next temple]

It's because GW can pump out the same model billion times and sell it saying "Well cadia is now not the only planet with cadians, also they can be black and have different genders and eye colors now!"

reminder: women were a small minority in the guard before 8th ed

[native crypt]

Honestly I liked the Sol Aux from HH more than most guard in 40k

[next temple]

Oh my biggest fucking gripe is GW deleting Stormtroopers in favor of fucking tempestus scions

[native crypt]

Lucifer blacks to but they are kind of still a thing

[fast garden]

i mean, logistically, what were the women in the warhammer universe doing if not fighting the same as the men in the guard

[next temple]

LBs are weird, they have almost no lore and they are only big cause they are supposed to be the human auxilia for custodes

[fast garden]

i genuinely do not know i thought that one made sense

[next temple]

Birthing more men

[fast garden]

fair enough

[native crypt]

I just find it neat that they are worthy of patrolling the imperial palace

[next temple]

it is neat but the lore is eh

[native crypt]

Yeah

Most of what they did was great crusade and hh

[next temple]

i would find it way better if they tried to flesh them out more and explain how the fuck they even get to this level, are they geno-modified soldiers? Do they use power armor? (yes guard has power armor canonically but GW forgets that)

also fun fact

imperial guard had their own equivalent of dreadnoughts at some point apparently

[fast garden]

what the fuck

[next temple]

i am sure this is retconned by now cause p sure this is ancient fucking lore

but the guard was fucking wild back in the day

Power Armor was a thing for them too.

entire regiments

Also imperial guard was never supposed to be a human wall of untrained conscripts

and their lifespan was never 15 hours average

[viral egret]

@little flame imma hop on tarkov to do some shooterborns, gonna go in balls naked with like the cheapest bolty

or mxlr

not bothering for kits ill just take it off the people i wont kill

[next temple]

that myth came from Richard Scanlon's 15 hours, but once you read the book it literally says that the 15 hours number was only meant for the specific frontline the book is set in and even then the characters who said that was a fucking liar

[native crypt]

Took the words from my mouth

[next temple]

that and the mc literally has like a few chapters where they show how imperial guard are trained, and they are trained a lot

these guys are supposed to be the main fighting force to put down uprisings and shit

Imperium keeps them trained and equipped for that specifically most of the time

[native crypt]

That and people forget that most of the time in the guard is waiting and boredom mixed with training

[fast garden]

welp

[short cove]

@fast garden

[fast garden]

time to play solo marathon as the invis guy