💣tarkov-released

[wintry ridge]

oh

okay stinky

[winged mica]

soft armor is class 3

the armor takes class 5 plates

[wintry ridge]

yeah that seems right

deagle is gonna be the swaggiest pistol runner gun though

passing the golden TT

or glock 18

[winged mica]

lol

would be funny if there is a golden deagle

since Golden Deagle is always the meme

[wintry ridge]

i hope and pray and wish they'd add in the fuckin uhhh

i frogot

oh right the actual mateba

and not whatever weird nerf gun version they have in game

it looks off in game

[winged mica]

mateba? unlikely

[wintry ridge]

like IRL it looks great

[winged mica]

yeh but it's not a mass produced gun irl

[wintry ridge]

they got the rhino or whatever

[winged mica]

Chiappa Rhino is mass produced

[wintry ridge]

like what did they do with the grip

and everything else

[wintry ridge]

i mean they have god damn rd704 and rsass

two guns that have really low amounts made of them

or are just stuck to law enforcement use like across the entire globe from where tarkov takes place

[wintry ridge]

apparently thats the same argument they used for not adding the groza

which fucking sucks because the game is fiction and they have the val

[winged mica]

pretty sure VAL is used a lot in Russia

[wintry ridge]

and scavs use the VSS

like ???

[winged mica]

it's rare in US but not in Russia especially Tarkov has like a raided military base as a map

[wintry ridge]

its not like they're adding the an94

[winged mica]

but tbh ya kno

[wintry ridge]

the groza was used in conflicts before

[winged mica]

fair point since there's a SIG MCX Spear

that use actual 277 Fury since it's only available to US Military

[wintry ridge]

also the rsh 12 is literally the same deal as the mateba

cool looking revolver that has never been mass produced

theres prolly less than 100 produced

[winged mica]

I mean since they said

they are just gonna add cool looking guns for the sake of it

so it's just depended

a lot of times they love adding guns from Contract Wars

[wintry ridge]

yeah i guess it depends whether they're feeling like "realism" or not on the day they decide

[winged mica]

I mean this is a good list to what to expect

even tho its not official

[wintry ridge]

i STILL think they should add the .45-70 series of stuff

lever actions, huge revolvers

[winged mica]

45-70

[wintry ridge]

lever actions would be so good but would require new animations

[winged mica]

dont know if there's a lot of those in Russia

[wintry ridge]

i mean its a hunting caliber no?

surely some people import them over for bear hunting or something

[winged mica]

it is but it's not common in Russia due to import export ban

thank Obama for that

[wintry ridge]

i imagine the tarkov region would have those still

thats like the weird import lifted zone no?

[winged mica]

I mean unless somehow USEC decided to bring it as Mercenary weapons

it'd be weird

but don't worry

[wintry ridge]

"special economic zone"

surely that means its some weird trading hub where they skirted import laws

[winged mica]

oh shit

regarding the one you said Mortar

[wintry ridge]

i imagine if they can add the fuckin sig spear they can add a .45-70 rifle without any worries about import issues

[winged mica]

no fucking way lol

[wintry ridge]

also consider @winged mica

they NEED to have the weapon in person

or atleast 3d scans of it

since thats how they do most of their modeling iirc

like basically recreating it 1:1

[winged mica]

I mean

[wintry ridge]

im assuming thats how they got the sig spear

[winged mica]

you could get an airsoft of it

SIG Spear is yeh

idk how they able to model it

unless they got people from US to help them

[wintry ridge]

if they can do that they can get non-RU coders to help them with their workload

[winged mica]

@wintry ridge maybe ya kno

they straight up going to their gun place and ask the producer

hence they able to get their actual brand and logo name in game

and they can 3D scan

I feel like the version for SPEAR in game is diameter to shoot 308 since that's the widely available one

[vivid dawn]

CoD has the Ak-50 now

When Tarkov AK-50?

[wintry ridge]

cod has like 30 people working on a single gun at any given time

so prolly by 2027

[vivid dawn]

And they still did it wrong

You can change the Stock on the AK .... but .... how?

[wintry ridge]

cod takes so many liberties im surprised they did it at all

[vivid dawn]

Where does the bolt go?

[wintry ridge]

the AR you mean?

[vivid dawn]

No

Ak-50

[wintry ridge]

well thats made up and not really based off the real ak50

[vivid dawn]

No its the real one

Its 1 to 1 the same lol

But if you change the stock the gun wouldnt work cause the bolt would hammer against it

Cause when cycling the bolt has to go somewhere

https://youtu.be/H-QDlWt2CRM?si=-gKrNK0XjAFQrXW1

[winged mica]

Thats not the issue

The issue is how can the normal AK receiver shoots 50 cal

And how plastic print can handle 50 cal

[vivid dawn]

I dont know what that has to do with the magicaly disappearing bolt

Also its obviozsly not the normal ak receiver

Unless you can change that too which adds to the issue

And plastic print,they tried that,it cant

[wintry ridge]

its a video game

its fucking cod

we have lazer guns from wh40k

[vivid dawn]

Yeah,still they copied it and are not even giving royalties

[wintry ridge]

is it copied 1:1?

[vivid dawn]

Which was the initial point

[vivid dawn]

Watch the video

They did

[winged mica]

They had the same handguard btw

Its a mod that you can put

[ancient marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721898296771215414/1273519646535843900/UhNikitaYoungMan.mp4?ex=66bee918&is=66bd9798&hm=39e7d21bc063cf3eb138e90fca900de92c08e83b09c30d86a5d9a6c027f0cfd6&

[winged mica]

oh that's why people were mad at ABI

some dude from ABI came out say they won't have pay to win model like Mobile one (the one they always have) apparently appeared during the limited testing one and seemed like people voiced about it yet they still keep it in and they said the paid feature has no impact which seems to be emphasized that paid feature is only for cosmetic

[stark torrent]

yeah i mean the devs said they wont have that and well

they lied

[winged mica]

tbh I never expect it since I never play it but that just sounds like your average Tencent move

[stark torrent]

and ngl i played yesterday and i died to 3 pay 2 win juicers already ( they have an achievement that says 1st store purchase or shit )

[winged mica]

lmao

[stark torrent]

[winged mica]

now I feel so ironic that so many people defending ABI when Unheared edition a thing saying it'd be Tarkov killer

and now it's just a Tarkov

[stark torrent]

Tarkov will only kill itself dont worry

Cant wait for wipe but cant wait for more drama / bugs / shit as well

[winged mica]

count me in

im all in to shit on anything Chinese

[stark torrent]

ABI is a fun casual experience with friends tho , its nice to not have teamkills etc and just go together as a squad

Tarkov is the real deal tho , adrenaline rush etc

When the game works ofc

Tarkov is also satisfying when you win

[strong hinge]

erhm actually thats on you, you shouldve been able to kill them, the game is not pay to win, being able to buy koen isnt as much of an issue

🤓

[stark torrent]

true, just....shot them in the face

[winged mica]

oh wait you can't

they bought face shield

[stark torrent]

oh wait he hald the class 5 altyn helmet on

p!ew

[torpid sparrow]

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[winged mica]

is Altyn in ABI as cancer as Tarkov

[stark torrent]

Yeah, i mean it tanks shots from everything but AP bullets

Now, you can buy those AP bullets

from flea

however

they are crazy expensive

and loot in this game.....sucks

[winged mica]

don't worry

[stark torrent]

like it rly sucks

[winged mica]

just ya know toss 2 dollars for an Altyn

[ancient marsh]

iirc you can have a class 6 helmet face shield combo

in abi

[stark torrent]

ye i think the Rys T is 6

and altyn is 5

smth like that

[ancient marsh]

no no some like american helmet with headset

[strong hinge]

wait so the game that you can buy money with irl cash gives enemy players a tangible advantage? thats insane, thats crazy

[winged mica]

ngl I kinda like how there are so many weapons in ABI

[stark torrent]

aight imma go look 2 sec

that sounds very balanced

[winged mica]

idk if the customization is as vast as Tarkov

[stark torrent]

25 euros for thermals

💀

[keen sparrow]

good, serves them right for doing methods, bottypes, and gclasses the way they do

[ancient marsh]

ind70 i think

[stark torrent]

oh riiight

the cayman but not from wish

[ancient marsh]

that's the caiman in game

caiman is class 3

[winged mica]

that IND looks cool

altho it's an airsoft one irl?

[stark torrent]

and like Fort armour is like 300k

[winged mica]

RST looks like an Altyn

[ancient marsh]

cause it's a Rys-T

which is a modernized altyn

[stark torrent]

It is basically a modernised altyn or whatever

[ancient marsh]

sh60 is altyn i think

[winged mica]

I mean this is an altyn

[ancient marsh]

no it's the maska

[stark torrent]

The "Rys-T" ("Lynx-T") armored helmet is an improved and lightweight version of the famous "Altyn" helmet. It is in service with the assault units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia. Can be equipped with a special armored visor.

[ancient marsh]

^

[winged mica]

I keep being mistaken a lot of them

[stark torrent]

Yes

the Maska SCH or whatever is different

[ancient marsh]

maska is killa helm

[winged mica]

they looks exactly the same without the face

[ancient marsh]

cause they ar

e

[winged mica]

like only certain differences

[stark torrent]

that shit is tough af irl tho , it can tank even 5.7 ss190

but you literally cannot see cock

[ancient marsh]

which isn't that good lmao

[stark torrent]

i mean back then it was top ammo

[ancient marsh]

maska irl is awful

[stark torrent]

right now ofc its mid

• the faceshield will actually break off

[ancient marsh]

all the ballistic tests i saw irl

[stark torrent]

your helmet

[ancient marsh]

the face shield is one hit

[stark torrent]

the braces that hold it are shit

[ancient marsh]

it just falls the fuck off

[stark torrent]

wipe on 20 we fucking lost

5 days to grip

[ancient marsh]

im grippin day 1

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-last-moment-twitch-whispers-meme-stop-gif-2413465246570753776

dr disrespect being notified wipe is on 20th

[stark torrent]

what happened to his shit game

[ancient marsh]

scammed everyone ofc

[strong hinge]

the nft thing?

dead on arrival

[ancient marsh]

never arrived

[winged mica]

stop 5.45 I believe

and 7.62x39 at range

[strong hinge]

it can be played so technically it arrived

[winged mica]

people irl don't wear the face shield a lot tbh

I mean since you are having a 9lbs of titanium on your head

[strong hinge]

how it feels getting hit with 762 while wearin an altyn

https://tenor.com/view/jake-paul-gif-24186886

[stark torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-uber-tf2-ubercharge-charge-gif-25046008

how it feels getting magdumped by 5.45 and 556 with good armour

[strong hinge]

when in reality your entire ribcage would break

[soft coral]

Personally I think that the cultists are simply hallucinations caused by brain damage because of the amount of bullets that the pmcs took to the heat on their helmets

only logical explanation

[wintry ridge]

.50ae should collapse both ur lungs and force you to surgery unless you have like t6 ceramic armor

[strong hinge]

thats the deagle round yes, not the actual 50 cal

[wintry ridge]

yeah no shit

.50 bmg would instakill thru all armors

even the match rounds

beefier .338

[soft coral]

338 would knock you out let alone .50

9mm blows the lung out the body

[wintry ridge]

9mm blows the nuts back into the body

[soft coral]

real

[ancient marsh]

Real

[stark torrent]

It has 2 meanings

One that Tagilla is the grim reaper etc hallucinations as you said , from the drugs and prob wounds etc.

2. We are the unheard bullshit

[soft coral]

a bit of both honestly

[stark torrent]

trailer and music are great as always

gameplay ....

[soft coral]

you mean the game itself

[winged mica]

Armor: 20/300 Health: 479/480

[soft coral]

not only gameplay

[ancient marsh]

Gameplay is what people who want old hitboxes back want

Just mag dumping walls

For cinematic effect

[winged mica]

Heard someone said the opening scene hint that there is a revive and knocked down state

[stark torrent]

Yeah hard doubt

I think it was just cinematic

NoiceGuy ofc on suicide watch

[stuck tapir]

that dude gives me a braineurysm

very good chance thats actuallly a KO state reveal, something like dayz

it may be really fun

it may also lead to Uncon Cults

[stark torrent]

To be fair it's become a very popular demand, ABI and Delta Force have it

[stuck tapir]

even in dayz, a game with netcode from operation flashpoint, the uncon state elevates the gameplay to meme status

where you do the 50 cent everytime you drop someone

or on the otherside "na they still shooting your body, i think they fucked all ur gear up"

or that sweet moment where youre haulin ass to loot and theres nothing there except a smear of blood and a broken plate carrier

[earnest timber]

https://x.com/tactigray/status/1823826839854276660

TactiGamer | Gray Man Lifestyle (@tactigray) on X

How bad is Arena Breakout Infinite's Pay2Win? You can buy these armors with real weapons.

Twitter · Aug 14, 2024, 8:59 PM

[compact knoll]

I believe tarkov will be like this too one day

[stuck tapir]

i played my first 7 hours and just my initial feeling and exploring the store and gameplay is fucking SUS

[earnest timber]

Robbing people of 250$ wasn't enough? 🙂

[stuck tapir]

that thing is gonna go SIDEWAYS

[strong hinge]

the presence of these microtransactions is an issue, whether they give you a massive or negligible advantage doesnt matter

[stuck tapir]

whats wrong with selling skins, why cant just they be normal and sell skins

and little bullshit tidbits noone give a fuck about

[strong hinge]

listen they are poor game company, tencent small indie studio

they need the money

[stuck tapir]

Upcoming chinese developer

[ancient marsh]

"armors with real weapons"

????

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-smoking-cigarette-lord-of-war-taking-a-drag-gif-20367466

lord of war type shi

[earnest timber]

Real money*

[stuck tapir]

the original is better

[hallow stream]

I mean does it matter if you can buy shit with real money

Surely in a game where 1 shot to head equals die it wont matter

[stuck tapir]

but it doesnt

a m80 costs 1k a round

[hallow stream]

You are basically scamming yourself by buying in game shit thats lootable

[stuck tapir]

is bb bals

m61 is 4k a pop

[hallow stream]

Thing is I played on phone and they give you so much free shit you never run out of money

[stuck tapir]

now money is easy to make if you go to hard zones

theres so many challenges and garbage

[hallow stream]

Like you log in and they flashbang you with 30k in game currency

[stuck tapir]

you gotta have half a brain (me) to be broke

30k isnt shit tho

my FAL is 300k straihgt up

380

then all the ammo and gear

plus 50k to go to hardzone

my take: People who are shit at the game and got money are always gonna be able to outgear you in the long run

[hallow stream]

Okay but like at the start they give you so much guns and so much money its basically impossible to run out

[stuck tapir]

it will help them win that fight

[hallow stream]

I was also just getting out with 400k per raid

[stuck tapir]

i had 2 mil

[hallow stream]

On the stupid farm map

[stuck tapir]

thats 4 kits

[vivid dawn]

Your 2 mil kit gets defeated by the ammo cost of 200

Its kinda funny,that Delta Ops,a full Tripple A title,will have micros.

"ohh its available for free"

yeah just like in ABI

But you can pay for it

just in ABI

but smh its fine in a tripple A

and not in a f2p

The fucking morality

The gaming community is such a cancer

[stuck tapir]

discord should monetize namechanges

[vivid dawn]

Thanks for the reminder

[stark torrent]

You would think but not really

8/10 times you will not kill the fat p2w chad even if u use good ammo idk

[vivid dawn]

last test i got one shotted by a hobo with a 2nd ww grease gun just because he had good ammo and penned my lvl 6 helmet

so idk

[vivid dawn]

Yes its shit that you can buy koen,as you can see in the survey screenshot i posted yesterday i told them its shit

BUT

THE BIG BUTT

rn People are fine with that shit Delta force which is in Alpha/Beta state whatever....... its a full price tripple A title

And they are not fine with it in a Free 2 Play Game ?

[ancient marsh]

wait does an actual pay to play game

have money for loot?

[vivid dawn]

Thats the worst case shittiest morality ever

[stark torrent]

i think both games will go down the p2w road , they are made by the same people

[vivid dawn]

Its both Tencent yeah

[vivid dawn]

What ?

[stark torrent]

Also many are playing ABI than Delta now so thats why ABI is more on the radar

Tho people praise Delta for what it is

[vivid dawn]

It will have micros in that regard yeah

Delta is a good shooter

The extraction mode is ok

[stark torrent]

it is , i dont like the abilities tho , not my type of game i guess

[ancient marsh]

mtx to buy currency

[vivid dawn]

Its just that its a full price title and shouldnt be monetised like a F2P

[vivid dawn]

Yep.It probably will.

[stark torrent]

they are fishing, if they see ppl buy it , they will do it as they want

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzb8KdxOGaw

[vivid dawn]

Yeah as i wrote 2 times,the issue is that people are fine with it in a full price title but not for a game they can play for free

thats literaly 0 braincell logic

Also im literaly doing home office rn

[frozen olive]

Diablo4 cash piggies

[vivid dawn]

documenting my own water damage

[vivid dawn]

Reason why i never bought 4

its horribly monetised

[stark torrent]

i mean it doesnt matter at the end of the day tbf

its the game that will suffer

[vivid dawn]

nah cause the people will buy

[dapper grotto]

why are streets que times so fucked

[vivid dawn]

cause nobody plays that shit,people that play it got PC´s from the last 2 decades and the Spaghettie code cant comprehen it at all

[stark torrent]

I got woods insta queue but not many players yet

Streets prob nobody plays it rn, it runs like ass and too many geared scavs

[dapper grotto]

was fine yesterday

it was also a bloody warzone around check 15 and kebab

[lyric cairn]

Whoa wait what? You can only buy cosmetics.

[vivid dawn]

you cant buy anything cause its not out yet.

And when its out,you will be able to buy all the fancy stuff to skip some progression.

[stark torrent]

yeah keyed rooms are apparently juiced rn

marked and shit are ultra good

from the event

[dapper grotto]

opened 4 marked rooms on streets yesterday 4 yellows 3 blue's 2 red rebels and some pretty sauced guns aswell

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtqRWbLF618

Guess its confirmed then ?

or is it ♻️

[dapper grotto]

oh yeah they announced the date on the discord yesterday

[vivid dawn]

♻️

[daring torrent]

i like the faces he makes in the thumbnails

he looks so happy

[hallow stream]

Hmmm

So theres arena breakout talk right

In the tarkov channel

Where did all the gray zone warfare enthusiasts and shills go

Is the game dead

[vivid dawn]

long

long

long

time dead

[hallow stream]

Did they actually just cash out

On the early release

And dip

Holy fucking shit

[vivid dawn]

its as people told them they should have waited with release

[hallow stream]

I said the games shit and shouldnt have released and I also said the games gonna die before any meaningful changes

Im living Ivans wet dream rn

This is how Ivan would have felt if BSG failed

Omg

Bliss

[vivid dawn]

"if" ?

they failed

People just stick to it cause all the alternatives are shit so far

[hallow stream]

If bro

It hasnt happened yet

So if applies

[vivid dawn]

ABi is decent but people cry about the f2p concept

Delta force might be the alternative

[hallow stream]

Bungie marathon has hope

They like have all their devs working on it

Cause its the studios last hail Mary

@frozen olive fuck off just because its bungie doesnt mean its bad

If its bungie AND DESTINY 2

Then its bad

[dapper grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[frozen olive]

Bogdan huffin the copium

Marathon is going to flop em

[hallow stream]

Aye man the setting is cool

I like space stuff

I fw being a space pirate

[hallow stream]

Too early to tell

Since they arent 1 to 1 copying tarkov there might be actual content

If it was Bethesda then I would go

Yea its gonna be bad

[strong hinge]

I fucked with marauders aswell and now it has like, below 100 daily players

[hallow stream]

The players said abt that game that the devs are too slow to work on updates

And now just sweats play

[strong hinge]

Yep

[hallow stream]

Update drought is a big issue

Like I dont have 100% faith in bungie either but the setting is fucking cool and I like the color scheme they used

White yellow black was mostly in the trailer

Orange

[dapper grotto]

so

what on gods green earth did they do to armor

why is everything tanking like a mf right now

[lament kayak]

guys i think he fell off his skateboard

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721898296771215414/1273656121491587082/Fuel_thoughts_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=66bf6832&is=66be16b2&hm=eea13e79a7a845484968cd21635477738e1859a125cabee8b72bdc17ba4b45f2&

what did he mean by this

[stuck tapir]

griefmachine is online

[stark torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433053768687288332/1263244897998344264/airwingreacting.gif

[dapper grotto]

P90 moment

[stark torrent]

damn

[daring torrent]

they increased the hitboxes so you cant hit weak spots as easily

they didnt change any values

before you could get lucky and one tap someone with 5.45 because their thorax wasnt fully covered and thats kinda dumb

i think some still exist but its not really worth thinking about

[ancient marsh]

what ammo are you using?

armor actually PROTECTS now, so you gotta use good ammo

it's more of a "ammo is weak" than "armor is strong" rn

[dapper grotto]

190

[ancient marsh]

ss190?

figures

[dapper grotto]

kinda blaming the amount of T5 and 6 armor i ran into

had 3 scavs with fucking thors

[ancient marsh]

yeah that too

event

[unborn aspen]

They basically reverted the changes they made to make it fair

One step forward two steps back, once again.

[wintry ridge]

i stopped hoping after bungie got acquired by a new company and they fucking switched to a hero shooter extraction moder

like wtf the ONLY reason i was copium for marathon reboot was because it was gonna have cool character customization and shit

and now it 100% wont because that just doesnt work with ability shooters

[hallow stream]

its not a hero shooter

they said it isnt

I dont keep active track of the game

im going off like 2 months after trailer information

they said theyre gonna have a artifact system and like you can attach shit to other shit and get yourself some small passive buffs

so basically hunt showdown perks

and they said guns are gonna be like parts and you can connect parts to each other and make a custom gun (not 100% confirmed just a rumor)

but the gun shit sounds cool

[wintry ridge]

nah i swear to god they moved it to some ability hero shooter kinda like this delta force game

[hallow stream]

that sounds stupid as SHIT

and like a game ive heard abt

so its def not marathon

[wintry ridge]

[stuck tapir]

delta force has abilities ?

[wintry ridge]

the new director said "they're moving away from player customization in favour of a selectable cast of heroes"

delta force extraction still has armor and loot and stuff

it just has abilities too as some weird 3rd aspect to consider when you're making a squad

[stuck tapir]

fairly inconsequential then

[lament kayak]

not another rainbow 6 siege ahh game 😭😭😭😭😭

[wintry ridge]

yeah its doesnt massively change how it plays compared to like ABI or whatever

but it does mean you have to learn what noises correlate to what abilities and how you'd deal with certain operators

like the recon ones are a menace if you dont know where they are since they can flash you or tag you but if they're in the open they dont have any smoke nades or movement abilities

[stuck tapir]

youre playing an extraction shooter but a little overwatch hustle on the side

[wintry ridge]

its not terrible tbh

it makes playing solo rough since you gotta either hope you're random team mates arent retarded or the squad you run up against isn't 3 medics spamming smoke and full pushing you with top tier armor

[stuck tapir]

cant bring myself to play, still havent washed the mid taste of abi from my mouth

[wintry ridge]

its like

actually good compared to ABI

the ONLY

issue i have really

is the bots

since they aren't labeled as bots in name or outfit for pmc bots

so it kinda degrades actual fights against players becase you're stuck thinking "were those bots"

[stuck tapir]

i fucking hated ABI ai until i figured out theres hardmode for maps

they start to actually shoot towards you

kinda sorta

if you wait enough

[wintry ridge]

they do that in delta force too

but they're not awful

they're better than tarkov scavs atleast

[wintry ridge]

they still have moments where they need to finish walking animations to shoot at you so you'll peek a corner and they'll be walking right at you not doing anything

[real solstice]

Game shit

[stuck tapir]

that name is solid gold

[naive wave]

Games gonna be unplayable

[wintry ridge]

yeah thats what happens when a game is updating

[naive wave]

No man

The fucking tripwires

Expect a trip at every extract

Or the room before the d2 extract

Hope you can atleast use like a melee to cut the Wire

[wintry ridge]

multitool

I hope they make them too noticeable

like a disarm prompt from a foot away

like the little dot that pops up when you hover ur mouse near something you can use

[stuck tapir]

double down

give us remote controlled

gas

molotovs

turn the game into hunt showdown

maybe itll be fun again

[wintry ridge]

add the smoke ability from r6s

throw mustard gas cans at people and remote det them

[stuck tapir]

[naive wave]

I heard like 2 wipes away there was gonna be fuckin claymores

[stark torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[frozen olive]

https://tenor.com/view/bolt-movie-youre-a-degenerate-creature-of-darkness-degenerate-creature-darkness-degenerate-gif-27552182

[wintry ridge]

hi kosm

[winged mica]

[winged mica]

Lmao

Tencent done fuckin it up

[vivid dawn]

If you watched that video its like 9 minutes of the same shit we already discussed

Like,its all because you can buy Koen

If they remove that,people find the next thing to piss on

[winged mica]

Again they were pissed

[stuck tapir]

Pestily, never disappoints with bring up a hot take ONLY AFTER he checks the pulse of the community

No original opinion in that maN

[winged mica]

Because they feedback about it during the limited testing and peopel were complaining about it

And ABI rep said they will tweak and shit about it from the Mobile version

Yet they kept it the same way

[vivid dawn]

Nobody complained about the monetisation during the closed and limited testingf

We were all able to see it

[stuck tapir]

There we go

[vivid dawn]

Cause its insignificant

[stuck tapir]

Hes bandwagoning

[vivid dawn]

Why buy Koen if you can gain plenty while just playing

[stuck tapir]

They feed it to you for free I just keep redeeming shit

[vivid dawn]

The core issue,which i full understand that Pestily brings up is that you lose one part of income as soon as you did all quests

[stuck tapir]

Fart in game, get a lootbox

[winged mica]

Lemme see if I can find that Dev document vid

[vivid dawn]

i heavily agree with that

[vivid dawn]

After that your reliant on ingame loot and market

But again,they will bring more quests and free season passes

like you play and get the gooodies without needing to buy the season pass

[winged mica]

Thing is I think there was a public QA

And their rep said some which LVNDMARK covered

They said they know the mobile Microtrans model and they heard feedback and will try to tweak it

Then follow up with the purchase will be new melee and other accessories that has no impact to the gameplay

Which if you bought in game currency and high gear in game no matter how "Well its just gear you need to have skill" the fact that you can buy what people have to grind and find itself is the problem

If its just weapon skin, new clothes and new melee people wont give a shit

[vivid dawn]

it is just skins etc

Every gun

every armor

every ammo

available to everyone after the tutorial

[winged mica]

Yes but those you need to find

[vivid dawn]

How do i need to find them ?

What ?

[frozen olive]

Laff

[brittle sinew]

Yall mind if I post DaD things here, it's basically medieval tark

https://tenor.com/view/dark-and-darker-dnd-gods-drunkest-warrior-dark-and-darker-meme-dnd-cleric-gif-27302400

[vivid dawn]

its meh

[winged mica]

Idk man does it have modern plate carrier and AK rifle

[vivid dawn]

I do not bother if someone thinks he has to put 2000€ into the game and buy gear for 1043093492398034 koen

in the end i will end him with 1 shot of RIP

His gear will be mine easy as that

[brittle sinew]

It has plate carrier and the survival bow might as well be an AK

With how fast it fires

[winged mica]

Fair argument

[brittle sinew]

The plate carrier in question

[winged mica]

Gah

[brittle sinew]

Which playtest did you play

[vivid dawn]

its just another of these games that kinda died after 2 weeks of relevance

[brittle sinew]

Died? It's on its peak

It's better than ever rn

[winged mica]

I feel like that summed up near all extraction game in 2024

[vivid dawn]

What do you consider peak ?

[brittle sinew]

You have not played it, I can tell

[brittle sinew]

When the gameplay is best

[vivid dawn]

Thats not peak.

Peak is when it has its highest player count

[brittle sinew]

Player count doesnt matter when I can only have 12 in a lobby

Lmao

[vivid dawn]

Yeah but when it has only 200 players overall its basicly dead

[brittle sinew]

It has 18k rn

I'd say that's good

[winged mica]

Has like 18k

Pretty neat

[vivid dawn]

https://steamdb.info/app/2016590/charts/

[brittle sinew]

I've played games with 2k, that's dead

[vivid dawn]

all time peak was 2 months agao

[winged mica]

Peak was 50k player

[vivid dawn]

it lost 2/3 of its players in 2 months

[winged mica]

Dropped like 30k

[brittle sinew]

It has a bar vibe, cause you start seeing literal regulars lol

Pop in to a lobby and greet someone you've seen before

[vivid dawn]

What happened there ?

[winged mica]

Thats a huge dip

[brittle sinew]

A hotfix they rolled back

[winged mica]

Server maintenance I believe

[brittle sinew]

Or that

[winged mica]

Yikes

30%

[brittle sinew]

I say

Low player count =/= dead

Dead is <2k

[winged mica]

You say the game is at its peak

[vivid dawn]

Yeah still,its the same pattern as with the other extraction games

[winged mica]

And he proved to you that its not

[vivid dawn]

thats what i wanted to say

[winged mica]

So

[vivid dawn]

People lose interest fast

[brittle sinew]

I said that in terms of gameplay

Look friend

The balance is the best it's ever been

[winged mica]

man

[brittle sinew]

And wipe is right around the corner

[vivid dawn]

Thats not what "peak" means though

[frozen olive]

Yeah so

[brittle sinew]

I don't care

[winged mica]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184698508598?mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338815364&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 imma buy this Tarkov 4x4 Gun Box

[frozen olive]

They said they don't want to da live service thing

[brittle sinew]

Fuck your semantics

[vivid dawn]

[frozen olive]

they're just like glad to make a good game

and that's it

the people lose interest thing is their own making anyways

[brittle sinew]

I fw that

[frozen olive]

these cunts can't make a good singleplayer that lasts a bit

[winged mica]

you fucked w that?

[frozen olive]

so they just make mp twitch kiddie shooters

flavor of the month game

the vicious cycle of the game industry just being a pvp enshittification

[brittle sinew]

People will pvp and optimize the fun out of a game

Look at DayZ

[frozen olive]

literally what happened when pvp majority went from

haha funny knife match in cod 4

to

I need to complete my bpass challenges

progress

progress

I must tryhard

meta attachments

[brittle sinew]

Esports happened 🤷‍♂️

People want to tryhard, want to optimize

It's an arms race man

[winged mica]

i don't know

[vivid dawn]

The gaming branche needs crash

[winged mica]

I dont care much about DaD it's just another fantasy medieval game for me

[brittle sinew]

It's happened to DaD too, kind of sucks

[winged mica]

idk about other people

[brittle sinew]

To each their own of course

I like the combat

With the swing patterns and such, it's a nice change of pace from the gunfights of tarkov

And the drip is fire

[winged mica]

I prefer the duffle bag with IKEA rig drip

[next temple]

I do 2003 PMC loadout

Paca, basic rig and shemagh

[brittle sinew]

That is drip too

[next temple]

Fuck this alibaba ass meta gun look

I will run plain M4

[brittle sinew]

Too cool not to use

Anyway my fav part about this game is the lack of long ass loading screens and gearing up time

I'm in a match within 3 minutes

[soft coral]

Who do I have to shit on today

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-walking-gif-21499133

[ancient marsh]

the toilet for once

[winged mica]

Arena Breakout

[soft coral]

eh

[winged mica]

do it

fuck it up champ

fuck it up

blow its asshole up

destroy it

[soft coral]

arena doesn't have anything for me to shit on

its already doomed to fail

[keen sparrow]

y'all blowin money on extraction games when you could just use that money on uppers

[wintry ridge]

it's called blow for a reason, it's what you're meant to blow ur money on

[stark torrent]

P!EW

[torpid sparrow]

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[wintry ridge]

its somehow even worse than it was in mw2

[keen sparrow]

worse how?

properly balanced?

[wintry ridge]

i guess its kinda the same since both were like 2 shot chest

tarkov just needs you to use m61 or whatever

[hallow stream]

modders seem to be having too much fun

[keen sparrow]

where gif

okay i'll go back to my hole now

[winged mica]

anyone knows the song from the 0.15 trailer

[wintry ridge]

nope

[stark torrent]

not released sadly

[winged mica]

damn

I blame Ledy

[stark torrent]

well whoever Ledy is im sure he is to blame

[winged mica]

dam ledy

[stuck tapir]

crop audio

put into AI generator

make full song

profit (???)

[stuck tapir]

its unironically cheaper

[winged mica]

uppers are like 300+?

[stuck tapir]

eeeh

Tor

[winged mica]

look

I want Daniel Defense

[stuck tapir]

not peruvian cocaine?

[winged mica]

no

Daniel Defense

[stuck tapir]

your loss

[dapper grotto]

first time i ever see the damn thing and its a double spawn

[winged mica]

I wondered what's the point of playing PvE Tarkov over SPT

[hallow stream]

Giving nikita more money

Buy pve

Do it

NOW!!!

[winged mica]

wdym Do not

[hallow stream]

I meant do it

[winged mica]

jeez dude calm down

[hallow stream]

But like i type like autist and im on phone

[winged mica]

I already own Unheard for a while now

dont gotta rush me to it

[hallow stream]

@ ivan

[winged mica]

go ahead

Ivan

is just a chum

[hallow stream]

I dont think he cares

[winged mica]

of course

he's a chum

[hallow stream]

Itd be funny to ping him thiugh

But also not

[winged mica]

fair enough

anyway

lemme try playing PvE

[wintry ridge]

@soft coral

[winged mica]

@wintry ridge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtOJbw7wRgM

[keen sparrow]

oh y'all thought i meant gun parts

no

drugs.

cocaine

[stuck tapir]

#💣tarkov-released message

NO I AM MAN OF CULTURE

[keen sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[winged mica]

hopefully its delicious

[vivid dawn]

ABI Discord normalised without issuing bans.Now the people play and talk without complaining smh

[wintry ridge]

is it because all the people who didn't like their monetization stopped playing and the only people left are just boring content creators

[pseudo storm]

Love these animations

[vivid dawn]

Nah content creators are still the only shitting there but being told its a skill issue

English chat just flamed up again

[winged mica]

https://youtube.com/shorts/m0zHC_ljWkE?si=P-wYhEjPK9luVB10

@stark torrent

[strong hinge]

bruh

is it scamming if you dont even look at what you are buying for a split second, this is natural selection at this point

[compact knoll]

I mean

[compact knoll]

To be fair it isnt a scam

You get what you paid for

Even a cheaper price

[stark torrent]

[dapper grotto]

https://imgur.com/aHuUq2s

https://imgur.com/VqDai0C

https://imgur.com/LubUh0F

[stark torrent]

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h63nj02iUJg

[earnest timber]

Facts

[next temple]

If you think about it Standard edition players are more horrifying than EoD

They got nothing to lose so they will be aggressive af

[stuck tapir]

when i played on standard i pushed EVERYTHING cause i literally have no room to extract anyway

[stark torrent]

Yes it was

You can split the hair saying, bla bla pay for progression bla bla you can die to a timmy with 9mm pistol with all your gear bla bla

But in the end you paid real money for advantages? Yes? Its p2w

Only difference would be that EoD was a one time only purchase ( Surely they wont release smth else ) and tahts it

[next temple]

Besides, the chance of getting murked by a timmy with 9 mil is absurdly low

EFT has the worst fucking learnign curve in existence

That is like sumitting K2 as your first ascent in mountaineering

you will die

[stark torrent]

remember when they ruined pistols and reverted the patch

[ancient marsh]

"ruined pistols" no one cares pistols are dogshit anyways

[stark torrent]

five seven wasnt and isnt tho

shit has 0 recoil

[ancient marsh]

and 0 pen

[stark torrent]

otherwise indeed nobody cares

0 pen but easy headshots with it man , its a fucking pistol ofc it has 0 pen

otherwise indeed pistols were useless, RSH was a meme 90% of the time and....the rest are forgettable

[vivid dawn]

Like the advantages are obvious

Especialy the bigger Container is such a life saver

[stark torrent]

Yeah and trader rep , makes jaeger much easier

i remember standard account jaeger , yikes

[dapper grotto]

[vivid dawn]

[frozen olive]

Iagine

before dailies

Damn, Anime Feet Enjoyer? @vivid dawn

[vivid dawn]

No feet

[frozen olive]

Anime Paws Enjoyer, sorry sir

[winged mica]

God is Jaeger even worth grinding for

[native crypt]

If you want thermals and red rebel unfortunately yes

[frozen olive]

If you want hideout stuff yeah

[stark torrent]

@earnest timber

[earnest timber]

My gametag is Bazingarrey

@stark torrent

[stark torrent]

Ahhhh damn it

[daring torrent]

im willing to pay like 40k for an rsh speedloader

[winged mica]

https://youtu.be/m9qOaIvmCNw?si=KdfDH_WTbqvUNfNl

[daring torrent]

ive been thinking about things like this a lot, what ive gathered is that the reason learning curves in games suck is because manuals dont exist anymore, a primer for how to aproach the game and how to actually improve would save people like 1000 hours in most games of being bad

games are allergic to telling you how to play them because of "immersion" or something like that

[winged mica]

The learning curve is to cut your ball sack off

Instead of actually having fun

[daring torrent]

learning doesnt have to be fun

[winged mica]

Yeh but playing a game doesnt have to be cucked

[daring torrent]

i just dont like failing without a clear path to improving, esp in tarkov where u cant even get a killcam

[winged mica]

Tarkov is best in PvE/SPT for me

[daring torrent]

seeing how other people play is like 1/3 of improving yet tarkov doesnt even let you do that

[daring torrent]

i think so too, people are shitters in PvP 20 percent of the time and that 20 percent ruins it for me

i dont think the pmc karma system will fix anything lol

maybe its just an eu thing

ive been playing the shit out of pve lately, its a different challenge but still engaging, wish they made the progression a little slower and had less squads and more wandering lone pmcs

[winged mica]

I love the gameplay loop of Tarkov I just could not stand playing just to be shitted on by everyone especially after a working day

[daring torrent]

also runs like ass

[winged mica]

Idk man playing SPT for me is being constantly shitted on by lone PMC

[daring torrent]

theres a bug you can do to despawn pmc/bosses and it gives you like 30fps

[winged mica]

Who decided to jump corner and blast me to death its crazy

[daring torrent]

i havent played spt but in pve they are quite poop at close range but can beam you at long

[winged mica]

Thats just scav AI

[daring torrent]

idk if im just lucky but scavs never even manage to hit me 99 percent of the time

even when im missing lol

[winged mica]

I swear this armor looks weird

[ancient marsh]

It looks as if it would feel very rubbery

[wintry ridge]

that would be cuppy

[ancient marsh]

don't forget what they took from you

[winged mica]

Huh

[wintry ridge]

dont you keep posting that wolfman

[winged mica]

Hey

Hes chill

And a distinguished gentleman

Also I only post him when there is a furry talk

Which is every day

[pallid bolt]

9mm ratshot that destroys the server with 50 projectiles

[winged mica]

Phantom Forces?

[pallid bolt]

idk

[ancient marsh]

Like the game runs well now

[winged mica]

They made Factory less optimized

[lyric cairn]

I feel like being angry. Someone tell me anything about Tarkov.

[stuck tapir]

the default ak47u ironsight is offset by half a milimeter if above certain FOV

[lyric cairn]

Dude BSG is fucking soooooo stupid. They have the most robust gunsmith in FPS history and the default iron sights are fucked

I can't take it anymore!!

[pallid bolt]

use pk-06 fivehead

[winged mica]

Uhm

Ah hem, they still not fix hacking issue

[lyric cairn]

Oh that's fine, I mean, who could?

[winged mica]

Hacker

[keen sparrow]

Just one-hand your Barrett, like you do.

[wintry ridge]

serbu's when

the only single shot in tarkov is that break action right?

[winged mica]

Guess I can sleep easy knowing people do model guns with full internal

[spring fable]

kinda
i mean you do get an advantage progression wise, but it never felt like an 1 on 1 advantage, so id argue it was kinda ok on some level
because the main component for me back then was actually because i really loved playing tarkov and i wanted to see that shit succeed
so i didnt mind spending the extra buck for the few bonuses you got. admittedly, i guess gamma was a huge advantage in the long run.
when i play spt these days i actually play with 0 to hero where you have none of the bonuses, because its actually kinda feels like pay to loose in a sense if you enjoy playing the game

[winged mica]

Honestly

ABI does the same except you own it for 30 days

So I’d take 50 dollar upgrade to EOD over having to pay 5 bucks every 30 days

[spring fable]

honestly
whod have thought the chinese ripoff would try to one up the original

[winged mica]

The secured container default is event locked so idk

Atleast u get free keychain

And to get better keychain, you guessed it

5 dollars a month

I hate the model of buying item for certain money for only certain amount of time

It has been Chinese staple

[spring fable]

just play spt
dont pay shit

[winged mica]

Play SPT i do pay money

A lot more than Tarkov too

[spring fable]

you pay money for playing spt?

[winged mica]

Mainly because I died to SAIN bot and I tossed my mouse so I wasted 50 bucks rebuying my mouse

Skill issue ensued

[spring fable]

[winged mica]

They are so unpredictable I swear to god

[spring fable]

reject live service
embrace offline mode
who wants to play with other people anyway

[winged mica]

Fika

[spring fable]

Fika?

[winged mica]

Its Coop SPT

I usually play w gangs using Fika

[spring fable]

ah well

[oblique rampart]

[vivid dawn]

Or you do quests,weeklies,daylies and events and get it for free as reward

Thats thing about ABI

F2P vs payed game

One lives from sales and the other of subscriptions

I wonder what Tarkov is living from rn since i doubt they make much sales

Wouldnt wonder me if they take cuts of cheat and bot providers

Intentionaly banning some via order so people get new acc+ new cheat subscription

Winwin

[spring fable]

these days i really wonder if you can call a f2p game really that tho
like the idea is there, but with how it evolved the games basically prey on the consumer to spend more money than you ever would on a paid upfront game
and tarkov is a really bad example honestly
if were being real tarkov should be a finished game by now with a 2nd expansion in the works or something

[vivid dawn]

You can play it completely free unlike Mobile games or shit where the waiting times get longer and longer or the grind harder harder til your forced to pay

The joke just is that full payed games behave more than F2P games nowadays than the actual F2P slop

Like people are even getting deceived and played in broad daylight

People praise Delta Force and hate ABI monetisation

Same devs + Tencent xD

Nearly the same monetisation for the extraction mode

yet its a non issue in the full price title but for the F2P its like

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-gif-8581778765880397922

[stuck tapir]

my guy roleplayin sseth now

[vivid dawn]

[spring fable]

i wouldnt say its a non issue
i have stopped buying full price games implementing season passes and cosmetics for quite a while now
as well as all the early access bullshit

[vivid dawn]

people are ok with it in a game they already pay 60+ money for

Consumers are stupid.

[spring fable]

guess i am not people then

[vivid dawn]

Nah you are not ^^

im talking about the majority of the crowd

Like literaly the people on the ABI discord calling it "Chinese trash" and "Delta fforce is better" in one sentence

despite its the same devs and publisher

They are that dumb

its like Tarkov will never die because the competition is just full stupid

[spring fable]

tarkov is already dying

has been for a while

like i said, tarkov should already be finished by this point
they should be working on add ons, dlc, expansions they can sell to people that didnt buy eod

i mean that was the whole point of eod
buy in, youll get everything
what did eod really get that everyone else hasnt in terms of content
arena? nobody wanted that shit
pve? didnt even wanna give that without a huge shitstorm
base game? finished much?

reality is gsc has no idea what they are gonna do once tarkov is finished
thats how you end up with shit like arena

[vivid dawn]

Also its kinda funny cause those EoD Unheard items are not much of an impacct as soon as there will be no more wipes

When you gotta wipe manualy via "escaping"

[spring fable]

its actually much more funny that we never had to worry about anything when buying the standart edition. because eod will not get any more content for the base game than standart

in hindsight you bought some microtransactions they are implementing in the game now
damn i was worried about missing out on that

Like what do you think is coming that standart edition is not ganna have

[winged mica]

Laffetie

[vivid dawn]

yeah until they pulled the unheard shit and are sudddenly sayingg you wont ggeet DLC cuase their not DLC lo.l

[winged mica]

may I ask how many times did you change your name in the past 2 weeks

[vivid dawn]

5 times

[winged mica]

I swear whenever I see you every morning sun up

you're different name

it's like you are having bipolar disorder

[vivid dawn]

my gf has

i dont

[stuck tapir]

oh SHE changed your name to a shitposting youtuber format

suuuure

https://tenor.com/view/developer-code-buzz-lightyear-meme-7kt-gif-25051539

[vivid dawn]

Shes at work

she cant

[winged mica]

I love the song from the 0.15 trailer so much

suck they havent released it

@vivid dawn Apyr

[stuck tapir]

this will actually not suck if you can put a flashbang on it

[winged mica]

nah man im just gonna put smoke grenade on it

[stuck tapir]

i dont see anyone dying from a full nade fuse if the audio cue is loud enough

[stuck tapir]

i was thinkin that too

you might be able to trap someone mid hallway

[winged mica]

a great signal trap

I mean to not kill them

but to make them panick

[stuck tapir]

or just distract, yeah

add a layer to ambient noise

[winged mica]

apparently there's mortar strike

idk how does that work

maybe that'd be random zone event?

[vivid dawn]

imagine playing woods and that shit is everywhere

[winged mica]

no shit that's why I am scared

but I mean the grenade won't explode immediately

you have like 5 second fuse time

[vivid dawn]

Shrapnell in Tarkov working properly

[winged mica]

sometimes you can survive survive up at your face

sometimes you can see jesus

[vivid dawn]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qSOdsppmcMI?si=keCVP_0SEav-nXFM

[stark torrent]

Ye i mean this is really good , maybe have a % Killa spawns and rushes Kiba when u open it tho

Rooms need to be filled with shit ffs , Kiba keys are almost 1 mil together

[vivid dawn]

That would be cool

Yeah also it would make sense for it to be full since it was locked the whole time

[stark torrent]

• in the middle of the map so a lot of pvp traffic there

if people would play this dogshit map

[spring fable]

i remember interchange being popular as a scav map
nothing more
if anything it made it worse to go there as pmc