like insanely quickly
#💣tarkov-released
ancient marsh
nah he's got an icup
spell icup
rich venture
tee hee
cinder parrot
stuck tapir
hallow stream
"I got a angle bro dont worry about it"
stuck tapir
new painkiller effect
stuck tapir
he looks like a forbidden symbol
standard health and safety formation
soft coral
Tarkov players when they see a random IRL item
keen sparrow
stuck tapir
is your nose stuffed a lot or what
vivid dawn
You do know you are not supposed to eat it?
keen sparrow
the big empty one i've had for a year
soft coral
I can hear the ringing
ancient marsh
I bought a pack of six and lost all 6
Do you have a caretaker?
keen sparrow
it is kind of odd that both the golden star and vasoline in eft have like... tiny ceramic cup sounds
when they're little metal tins irl
lyric cairn
Adding the 14kb of data necessary for a tin sound would bring Tarkov to its knees
brittle sinew
I think the propane tank is cooler
Everyone can buy a balm online, but who can get a russian propane tank?
stark torrent
Real
brittle sinew
Look at what my friend found
It's not just a propane tank, it's the пропан 5L tank
hallow stream
I wish I could throw the propane tank at people
Shoot it and crash their game with it
Would be actively saving people from eft
Id buy the 250 dollar edition for that feature 
stark torrent
Wipe is closing in
dapper grotto
surely grok's pack will have it as a feature by 2028
brittle sinew
It's not just a propane tank, it's *the* пропан 5L tank
Reminds me of this
hallow stream
stark torrent
brittle sinew
If anyone can help me figure out the model and where to buy it, I'll be very happy
I've already checked Pelican, no dice
dapper grotto
Reminds me of this
they are real 
compact knoll
I love pre wipe tarkov schizo posting
dapper grotto
cannot wait for the numbers posting
winged mica
Reminds me of this
Im still wondering how that small box in game can hold a SR25
brittle sinew
Im still wondering how that small box in game can hold a SR25
It's the small box, only 4x4 slots
brittle sinew
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184698508598
Thank you
cinder parrot
stark torrent
They going all out on release day <:clueless:1031200942722387978>
Good , let BSG know their ass is on fire again
frosty basalt
Anybody play ABI today
I played for many hours I quite enjoyed it, at least for the first map, haven’t played the others yet cuz my friends weren’t leveling as fast as I was
It feels good, sometimes with very awkward terrain/geometry like GZW that results in weird drops/inability to climb
stark torrent
Imma give it a try a bit later ye
rich venture
flea is closed
Noooo my crutch is gone
Average tarkov player asking to make the video game more hardcore
Then complain when it's more hardcore
rich venture
Anybody play ABI today
Not yet but hoping it's good
ancient marsh
i'm not even gonna bite that bait
stuck tapir
Escape from Development Cycle
ancient marsh
escape from shit takes
pseudo storm
Can't wait for Tarkov 2
daring torrent
flea should be removed and loyalty level should be removed, just make better items more expensive and quests pay more
strong hinge
remove traders, replace them with gods that grant boons by praying to them and acting in accordance with their tenets
stuck tapir
remove traders, replace them with gods that grant boons by praying to them and a...
this would go so fucking hard
NATO the god of RPM
ancient marsh
flea should be removed and loyalty level should be removed, just make better ite...
dogshit take
flea is good
i honestly don't understand why people always have to fucking remove features from the game
crabs in a fucking bucket
daring torrent
flea is objectively terrible game design because you are letting a free market dictate the flow of your game rather than the dev creating a unique experience with how items are distributed
theres really no reason to actually hoard items because someone will be selling it for barely more than its worth
ancient marsh
flea is objectively terrible game design because you are letting a free market d...
it's not free market because items are locked to a price range due to taxz
dumbass
the game has internal values
for every item
daring torrent
like 10,000 roubles extra on the flea
ancient marsh
theres really no reason to actually hoard items because *someone* will be sellin...
excellent reason to keep flea market in
devs wanna milk you for fucking stash space
daring torrent
its a band aid solution that makes the game worse
ancient marsh
it's literally made by devs and curated by devs
this IS their vision
you're just wrong
also
devs are curating their own experience
with fucking flea locks
you crab in a bucket
just go play dayz
super realistic
daring torrent
not really
they know that the majority of the playerbase more like it for the pvp aspect so they lean into it
thats why arena existed (and failed)
artistic intent can be mangled when you are acountable to a community
thats why devs should be hermits and never talk to their fans
ancient marsh
artistic intent can be mangled when you are acountable to a community
that's exactly how you make money
bsg already ruining the game with their "artistic vision"
of fucking adding more dogshit on top of the broken game like streets expansions
and way more AI the game can handle
that's why game runs like dogshit
BSG doesn't make games, it designs them
ancient marsh
thats why devs should be hermits and never talk to their fans
Game dead in a week
rich venture
remove traders, replace them with gods that grant boons by praying to them and a...
True and based take
But flea is good
Means that the prices r dynamic
ABI not having shit on traders kinda means there's barely a point to grind quests other than for money
And perhaps having something to do
ancient marsh
ABI not having shit on traders kinda means there's barely a point to grind quest...
Abi doesn’t have trader wares at all?
That’s not good either
autumn estuary
I think if anything, removing flea, and having trader wares variable is probably the way to go.
dapper grotto
rich venture
Abi doesn’t have trader wares at all?
It does but they're barters and very little high level shit can be bought on traders
stark torrent
....they were dead when i found them officer
sir, you cannot sleep there
im gonna sit between the rocks on sniper rock , nobody is able to see me
stuck tapir
i love this, its like fishing but i can have my AC on
stark torrent
lyric cairn
Abi doesn’t have trader wares at all?
The traders have wares that you unlock according to character level. Questing is an XP boost.
So there doesn't appear to be trader rep, just character level. So far, at least.
Oh my goodness they let you remove ammo from a gun without taking the magazine out. Remarkable.
wintry ridge
The traders have wares that you unlock according to character level. Questing is...
dont they also have trader levels
or is that just delta force's
i thought it's basically a copy of ABI since its the same devs
like trader level lets you get new crates or whatever
secure container too
rich venture
Wipe never
rich venture
So there doesn't appear to be trader rep, just character level. So far, at least...
At max level you still have to rely on flea for top tier attachments and shit
stuck tapir
Wipe never
thursday
rich venture
Next year
lyric cairn
At max level you still have to rely on flea for top tier attachments and shit
That's fine
rich venture
Still it doesn't give much reason to grind for trader levels
pallid bolt
bunny rabbit
wintry ridge
what is bro shooting him with
wintry ridge
dude i have not seen a SINGLE keycard in uhh
delta force
they're on the market or whatever but idfk where to find them
lament kayak
playing tarcock again
Blud is engaging in tarcockery 🗣️
vivid dawn
pseudo storm
Do you use any other thermal scopes?
stark torrent
Do you use any other thermal scopes?
No , everything is inferior
ancient marsh
No , everything is inferior
reapir
stark torrent
on Woods? sure
handicap urself i guess
while you struggle to see my dot over 150m i will one tap you
with the zoom
Reapir is good in cqb tho if u wanna do that
thing is FLIR is just more accesible and cheap
than everything
no quest locked , jaeger level 3 barter at lvl 23
there are like 3 barters in total
Jaeger barter early wipe with sugar
Jaeger barter nerfgun shotgun
Mechanic 4 has a cheap one later for mid wipe
wintry ridge
No , everything is inferior
zeus
ancient marsh
handicap urself i guess
you get streets fps on any map with the flir
@wintry ridge if you don't know
zeus has 18 FUCKING FPS on infrared mode
wintry ridge
skill issue
winged mica
How does ABI look
ancient marsh
How does ABI look
yes
winged mica
Chinese
ancient marsh
You guys experiences are way more valid than him
... you asked for graphics
take al ook for yourself
winged mica
Honestly I cant tell if peeps on Youtube are playing on low setting for high fps
Or thats just how it looks
winged mica
Banana
cinder parrot
wooden chasm
game?
brittle sinew
@hushed elk Hey when will we play fika again? It's been a minute
hushed elk
It has been a while
wintry ridge
It has been a while
hushed elk
earnest timber
Arena Breakout Infinite
Escape From Tarkov but free and full of predatory microtransactions
stark torrent
Escape From Tarkov but free and full of predatory microtransactions
i mean
that sounds exagerated ngl
it's fun overall , at least early , i guess we will wait till late game whatever to see how much this impacts stuff
however , i will say it now
earnest timber
that sounds exagerated ngl
You literally have to pay to talk
stark torrent
You literally have to pay to talk
wdym
stark torrent
lol i mean this is petty af but why would u need a world channel anyway
the biggest workaround of this will be discord servers
Also let's be real , reason ABI is booming rn is because Tarkov is on wipe suicide watch
But will happen soon so everyone will go back to it , at least for a month or two to grind the wipe
Then we see
vivid dawn
You literally have to pay to talk
Its for an all chat ....
ancient marsh
World channel who cares
vivid dawn
Like if you play with 3 mates you team up anyway
ancient marsh
That’s the clash of clans global chat type shit
stark torrent
It's full of chinese and russian ppl anyway
So it's rly pointless
As i said, petty , sure , game changing ? nobody cares
vivid dawn
And you get all that shit due seasons anyway
ancient marsh
Escape From Tarkov but free and full of predatory microtransactions
Which mtx do you think are predatory?
Also what do you think is a predatory mtx
stark torrent
Only mtx that is bad is the irl money to game moeny
ancient marsh
As i said, petty , sure , game changing ? nobody cares
It’s on the same level as crossfire for me
The diff color muzzle flash shit
Who cares
stark torrent
That one just skips basically a lot of progression , since making money in this game is pretty hard , there is barely any good loot
Obviously it was on purpose
ancient marsh
Only mtx that is bad is the irl money to game moeny
Not even always imo
Idk if infinite roubles in tarkov does much if you don’t play quests
vivid dawn
Only mtx that is bad is the irl money to game moeny
Eh,if you do that then your dumb anyway tbh
ancient marsh
If ur level 1 trynna credit card speedrun
You have an infinite supply of sks and hp ammo
stark torrent
Eh,if you do that then your dumb anyway tbh
its not about that brotehr, its about fighting only people with top tier kits because yes
ancient marsh
stark torrent
it depends how the playerbase will hold , if f2p players leave , you will only have the pay whales left
and they will have top tier shit etc
yes you can headshot them , but you can also magdump them and they wont die cuase they have top armor
while you have shit
vivid dawn
its not about that brotehr, its about fighting only people with top tier kits be...
You can buy all ammo types,just buy something that pens lvl 6 or leg swipe
We tested that a lot
stark torrent
what im saying is , balance can be easily fucked
vivid dawn
It costs 200 koen to defeat 2 million koen worth of gear
stark torrent
You can buy all ammo types,just buy something that pens lvl 6 or leg swipe
yes man, me with my 200k vs XiaoLao with 3 mil
ancient marsh
It costs 200 koen to defeat 2 million koen worth of gear <:kekw:9199742701327114...
I hate that name
I’m calling em roubles fs
vivid dawn
Yesterday my first raid
ancient marsh
What’s the current available of abi rn?
vivid dawn
1 mil + instantly
ancient marsh
Still keys?
stark torrent
But again, at the end of the day , take it as a challenge, you fight a p2w juicer but if u win...
you win big time
it is what it is
could be worse idk
ancient marsh
1 mil + instantly
Is there found in raid for flea restriction
vivid dawn
Its f2p after all
stark torrent
problem is if there are only p2w juicers later tahts what im saying
stark torrent
No, you can buy anything , even t7
stuck tapir
thats kinda nauseating
i called it
games gonna get monetized like your average tencent bullshit
dead on arrival
ancient marsh
games gonna get monetized like your average tencent bullshit
Bro it’s a global text chat
vivid dawn
Like theres a trader that sells random stuff for barters every few hours and he has really good shit for cheap barters mostly
stark torrent
dead on arrival
it isnt tho
ancient marsh
It’s not that big of a deal
stuck tapir
Bro it’s a global text chat
sets a precedent
its not the chat imo
fuck the global lol
ancient marsh
sets a precedent
Does it tho
vivid dawn
Like theres a trader that sells random stuff for barters every few hours and he ...
And the best its just one click to buy the barter items
stark torrent
vivid dawn
Lul
When you play 4 man and one dies,just bring his gear back
Gets all his stuff returned
stark torrent
Yeah like they have very nice concepts
vivid dawn
I love that mechanic
stark torrent
A lot of qol stuff that tarkov would never
Tarkov bans you for dropping gear to friends kek
vivid dawn
Btw i doubt they will keep the koen for money mtx for long
stark torrent
Allegedly
ancient marsh
Tarkov bans you for dropping gear to friends kek
I don’t think so anymore
stark torrent
Btw i doubt they will keep the koen for money mtx for long
I think they will gamble on people forgetting about it and whatever
They will defo keep it
vivid dawn
Cause ABI discord is basicly only crying because of that
ancient marsh
Real money to currency thing may also be a double edged sword
stark torrent
If the game loses good chunk of players , maybe, otherwise , they do not care
ancient marsh
It may devalue rmt
stark torrent
you cant rly rmt
cant drop items in raid
you will get it back in inventory at the end if the teammate extracts with your loot
ancient marsh
you will get it back in inventory at the end if the teammate extracts with your ...
Oh, baaased
Or not actually
I drop teammates all the time
vivid dawn
I love the anti cheat,its like valorant
It gives you a screen that shits in your face that there was a cheater
ancient marsh
From watching abi gameplay when lvndmark played it
vivid dawn
And compensation is nice
ancient marsh
I don’t like the recoil
stark torrent
I drop teammates all the time
Yeah tehy gonna have to get their own stuff unless you feel like borrowing them shit
ancient marsh
I really like current eft recoil
vivid dawn
Yeah tehy gonna have to get their own stuff unless you feel like borrowing them ...
I used up one dead mates medkits like crazy and he was wondering why they didnt get them back
Ohhhh and when you play ABI make sure to bind a grenade/molotov hotkey
If its like in the test its not binded
That killed me once .... fucking bush wookie
vivid dawn
pay to use global chat?
You do know its the chat where everyone spams ads in f2p games
Literaly
Look at path of exile global chat
strong hinge
when having to pay to use a basic ingame feature is defended because "it protects against bots"
vivid dawn
when having to pay to use a basic ingame feature is defended because "it protect...
Basic ingame feature?
Its not for in the game
Its like in the menü
To spam ads 
stark torrent
Basic ingame feature?
dont take it literally man you know what he meant
vivid dawn
Yeah
strong hinge
if you have to argue semantics then you have no argument to begin with
vivid dawn
Thats why i deem it unnecessary
Like,if i want to interact with people i dm them
Not write in a global chat with 100000000 regarded people
Imagine Tarkov global chat
You are begging for it
If tarkov has one,you see how insignificant it is cause i never noticed
stuck tapir
its says it does
you can connect and disconnect from it
but i have yet to find the chat window
unless it reffers to the ingame messenger
ancient marsh
when having to pay to use a basic ingame feature is defended because "it protect...
Tf2
vivid dawn
Its such a basic feature that many games dont have it unless its f2p
stuck tapir
thiking the current monetization model is in ANY way okay and will not lead to cumfuckery is a big cope
strong hinge
Tf2
Yeah TF2 is the worst example of that, you can't even call for medic
Unless you buy something from the store
vivid dawn
Yeah TF2 is the worst example of that, you can't even call for medic
Thats not global,thats ingame.
That makes it worse
Way worse
vivid dawn
I own tf2 since release so i couldnt have known.
Anyway you will get plenty of shit via quests and seasons
Even stash space,secure containers etc
Premium time for free
Season 0 is what we had in the closed test
1 to 1 the same
Fair rewards,not much effort
Iirc i put a dude full with bullwts yesterday that sprinted in front of me with nothing
Either he did 0 to hero or just broke already
ancient marsh
Yeah TF2 is the worst example of that, you can't even call for medic
?
Pretty sure you can
You just can’t use chat
frosty basalt
Abi has been fun so far
The enemy AI is pretty slop so far tho
I don’t think I’ve ever been shot by AI
My first 2 deaths were today both to players
But I’d rather have AI with the worst aim and no eyes in the back of their head than tarkov style AI :)
I think scav mode sort of lessens the impact of p2w whales because you can always just have an insane come up, even just looting a dead player on the ground that a whale didn’t bother looting is a come up
But it does suck, I’d rather the game just be subscription to play and total equal footing ;)
One thing I noticed, really weird, the 30mm 2x/7x scope is so fucking blurry and all the textures turn low res when you ADS with that thing
I was looking for a LPVO to use with my FAL and it was like half the price of a vudu, now I see why. Awful
stuck tapir
I think scav mode sort of lessens the impact of p2w whales because you can alway...
you can scav?
that changes things a LITTLE
frosty basalt
They have a daily koen sale
50cents for 150k
Which is… the price of one vudu
You can spend 182$ a year to buy one vudu a day if you want :)
stuck tapir
the fact that its an option even is ridicolous
makes unheard edition seem okay
didnt half of us in tarkov literally dump the fucking game because its looking like it might take that very same path or what
strong hinge
didnt half of us in tarkov literally dump the fucking game because its looking l...
You seem to forget most gamers have double standards, and are willing to overlook scummy practices if they like a game
stuck tapir
You seem to forget most gamers have double standards, and are willing to overloo...
i am one of those ngl
i played tarkov for a long time
frosty basalt
didnt half of us in tarkov literally dump the fucking game because its looking l...
Straw that broke the camels back more like
Cheaters, clunky movement, bad performance, broken market, awful quests
If ABI wants to earn some good will, flea restrict the top tier of helmets body armor face shield gas mask, headset and ammo, and make those only purchase able off traders every reset in limited quantities redeemable by a voucher that you earn by completing some sort of daily task
That’s my idea anyway
stark torrent
All hideout Upgrades require only Pevko Beer and have instant construct times.
Levelling of skills have been rapidly boosted.
The flea market is currently closed
Loot spawns have been drastically buffed!
All Scavs are running Raider gear
Bosses are 100% spawn on their respective maps
Scavs have pmc kits
dapper grotto
stuck tapir
All hideout Upgrades require only Pevko Beer and have instant construct times.
L...
wait, do i sense... fun?
rich venture
Scavs have pmc kits
This is gonna be chaos
rich venture
You seem to forget most gamers have double standards, and are willing to overloo...
That's the reason most ppl didn't give two shits when Nikita accused abi of stealing assets but were up in arms when ppl said Nikita used a $6 knife from unity
stuck tapir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jlyhs7yOLY
nikita has that talent
i keep forgetting
i unironically like everything geneburn
stuck tapir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jlyhs7yOLY
this goes so fucking hard, they got a knack for this holy shit
stark torrent
my man so flabbergasted he had to post twice
autumn estuary
m249?
dapper grotto
stark torrent
vog traps 
dapper grotto
imagine D2 with this
stark torrent
imagine D2 with this <:kek:1206172080169820190>
Reserve unplayable map
dapper grotto
Reserve unplayable map
its playable now?
stark torrent
Playable yes
native crypt
vog traps <:death:1193722698635956326>
Me when the IRA sets dorms to explode
stark torrent
Survivable? Questionable
stark torrent
its playable now?<:omegakekw:1016121110372306944>
Watch all fights happen at train station now , nobody wants to take D2 or paracord anymroe
Everyone bushcamps until the train arrives then its war
dapper grotto
stark torrent
Whoever gets to plant the first trap in the train
autumn estuary
Looks good, cannot wait to look around
Most of the map expansions have been good tbh
Shoreline, that corner they added is a bit forgettable. but other than that they've tended to be pretty awesome.
stark torrent
Factory was so due rework
autumn estuary
Factory might as well be a different game.
lament kayak
dapper grotto
another thing does factory have an outside area now?
stark torrent
dont think so
dapper grotto
there where some areas in the trailer that i dont recognize from any of the maps
and those where not updated factory areas either
dapper grotto
stark torrent
The scene with the 6 shot GL spawncamping the two fucks in the bunker spawn on Reserve
classic
dapper grotto
stark torrent
shit you are right
it must be an outdoor courtyard
damn map must be twice as big now
dapper grotto
exactly
stark torrent
cant wait for the audio to be absolute dogshit because we have outside and inside now
stark torrent
14 players Factory
dapper grotto
stark torrent
Also , i saw a Killa spray as well in there
Possible Killa and Tagilla rare spawn ??? Maybeee
Maybeee
stark torrent
Would be cool to have like 5% chance for Killa to spawn with Tagilla xD
meanwhile this is the free stash space i have to work with
20 Early August wipe
dapper grotto
stuck tapir
fuck arena breakout
i cant call myself 3trees cause cant be number first=!=!=
guess im fuckin
three3s now
stark torrent
dapper grotto
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057725089522663525/1273244508313616454/image.png?ex=66bde8da&is=66bc975a&hm=b812a18d445c62b589c1738b8d776651a46c7bc22c3d483caadffb96371142cd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1407&height=676 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057725089522663525/1273244581454020644/latest.png?ex=66bde8eb&is=66bc976b&hm=7c8cf0fc8a44c97b72da01b1bb61b737e2155d8e13c7babe21f904d19453db14&
ancient marsh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057725089522663525/1273244508313616454...
That’s an m60
ancient marsh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057725089522663525/1273244508313616454...
That’s an HBAR I think
dapper grotto
HCAR most likely
frozen olive
Tarkov both finding like
WW2 Soviet weapons in massive amoutns
and
Extremely rare niche weapons
IRL Bolter
(Pov you watch the scavs explode into a cloud of gore)
dapper grotto
g11 when
dapper grotto
dapper grotto
what the fuck is that
HCAR aka BAR but modernized
ancient marsh
it look so good
wrong
stuck tapir
HCAR aka BAR but modernized
oh so it is the same shit garandthumb was testin
stuck tapir
its got that mishmash of m1a,scar and something
ancient marsh
or a mosin conversion kit
strong hinge
please dont kill me
soft coral
lets goooo fuck this game
ancient marsh
?
pallid bolt
what game this
strong hinge
what game this
arena breakout infinite
the game that will temporarily be popular until the inherent double standards of gamers shift and they go back to tarkov
pallid bolt
i thought it wasn't out yet
strong hinge
probably signed up for a beta or something
pallid bolt
does it have a gorillion cheaters
wintry ridge
We're goinna find G11, WA2K
i been yapping about it for ages but g11 would be peak
dude or the steyr ACR
vivid dawn
does it have a gorillion cheaters
Nah and its anti cheat is working
pallid bolt
just thought of a way that Tarkov could implement a killcam while still remaining semi "real"
Mechanic has some neural network running, and he likes to have all the info about what's going on all over Tarkov
maybe when you die, after a day or so you'll receive a message from him with a camera angle on your death
vivid dawn
just thought of a way that Tarkov could implement a killcam while still remainin...
Tarkov is neither realistic or semi real
wintry ridge
just thought of a way that Tarkov could implement a killcam while still remainin...
or like literally ANY of these games they could show exactly where you got hit and not just what zone
pallid bolt
i'd still rather see exactly how it happened
but I know they'll never put a full killcam in cause x y or z
rich venture
You a real one
rich venture
or like literally ANY of these games they could show exactly where you got hit a...
That's realistic at the very least if u care bc someone's taking the bullets out of u after you die
Therapist after raid healing service and whatnot
stark torrent
Cant wait to shoot Partisan by mistake because im schizofrenic and i shoot every living being on woods
wintry ridge
Cant wait to shoot Partisan by mistake because im schizofrenic and i shoot every...
does he know?
cant see that mf on thermals
ancient marsh
Cant wait to shoot Partisan by mistake because im schizofrenic and i shoot every...
is it bad to?
stark torrent
it prob will be , he is made to hunt only "bad karma" people
we dont know tbf , gotta wait for them to say / someone datamine it
native crypt
i hope they make him not look like a scav at a distance
strong hinge
Cant wait to shoot Partisan by mistake because im schizofrenic and i shoot every...
your ass will be on the receiving end of noobtubes brother
giving ai a grenade launcher is a recipe for disaster
stark torrent
strong hinge
they will either blow themselves up or be a monster
wintry ridge
giving ai a grenade launcher is a recipe for disaster
brother look at the goons
they already have one
lyric cairn
i hope they make him not look like a scav at a distance
He better be painfully obvious, like in a gorilla suit or something, or else everyone is going to shoot him
native crypt
He better be painfully obvious, like in a gorilla suit or something, or else eve...
the neon pink avenger
winged mica
Lol for Tarkov atleast you get 2x2 Alpha container
In ABI you need to buy secured container for only 30 days
For like 10 dollars for a 2 by 2 and 30 for a 2 by 3
winged mica
Arent they doing public access rn?
vivid dawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_E1Xo7yQ1s
dapper grotto
strong hinge
something something gamer double standards
vivid dawn
Ammo costs nothing in this game
and the fun part is the shittiest gun is good with the best ammo
and thanks to the "random bater goods" trader you can buy the best ammoy very cheap very often
or just get it over flea
tbh BigFry is overexagarating.
Yes buying Koen for money is shit
But its not necessary
strong hinge
then why have it? why is it there if its not necessary, its genuinely like those singleplayer games by ubisoft that you can buy xp boosters for
vivid dawn
then why have it? why is it there if its not necessary, its genuinely like those...
Because its F2P
It needs monetisation
ancient marsh
i just got an ad for a sniper battle royale game @stark torrent
posted the fuck up
strokin the bipod
bippin off 3 adderals
strong hinge
Because its F2P <:KekSkew:1146905259810234368>
doesnt it literally have a season pass and buyable cosmetics
ancient marsh
Tower, give me the fucking mildots
vivid dawn
doesnt it literally have a season pass and buyable cosmetics
no
Seasons are free
and no skins yet
ancient marsh
strong hinge
i dont get why shit like this is justifiable to people
vivid dawn
i dont get why shit like this is justifiable to people
Its f2p ....
ancient marsh
Its f2p ....
you shouldn't be able to buy anything in a game ever
strong hinge
thats no fucking justification bro
vivid dawn
thats no fucking justification bro
Ehhh what ?
So a f2P game shouldnt make ANY money at all ?
strong hinge
me when i dont support pay for advantage mechanics in any form so im the bad guy that wants the poor little multi million dollar game company to go bankrupt
vivid dawn
me when i dont support pay for advantage mechanics in any form so im the bad guy...
Its not a fucking advantage xD
everyone can access the same shit without paying
strong hinge
and you can access it easier by paying, thats what paying for advantage is
vivid dawn
NO
YOU CANNOT
Everyone can access it the first second after the tutorial
And just because you got that fucking lvl 6 armor it costs like 2k coen to get ammo against it and 2k is nothing
2k is a gun from a fucking scav
x10
Yes buyable Koen is garbage
But no its not as much of an impact as people make it out to be
frozen olive
Buyabke Koen is a good rmt skip
strong hinge
how does that excuse it, there are millions of ways to make money, the fact that buying koen isnt as much of an issue doesnt excuse the fact that its there
when it doesnt need to be
vivid dawn
how does that excuse it, there are millions of ways to make money, the fact that...
Theres no excuse for Tripple A title offering micros
Theres no excuse for so much bs going on in the world
Yet were talking about a shitty game with shitty monetisation
There is an excuse when you look how much the servers costs
Then you want to squeeze every cent out of it too
And tbh,they would remove it if People wouldnt buy it
the issue is the consumer
they buy it
THATS THE EXCUSE
THATS THE PROBLEM
strong hinge
And tbh,they would remove it if People wouldnt buy it
no they would just balance the game to encourage it
why would they remove it
this is mobile game company
strong hinge
oh so its EVEN WORSE
vivid dawn
winged mica
Yes buying Koen for money is shit
you need to pay for smallest container tho
and it only lasts 30 days
vivid dawn
you need to pay for smallest container tho
You dont
winged mica
and after that you gotta pay for more
vivid dawn
You can play and get it via quests
winged mica
event you mean
vivid dawn
you can immediately buy 2x3 secured container so
Which is ok for a f2p
For Tarkov in EoD etc its not
Thats a full price game
winged mica
well yeh but the point is ppl don't want any of that
strong hinge
what i think is gonna happen is that all the little good things will be stripped away from the game and the economy is purposefully gonna be adjusted to encourage using the mtx shit, their presence is already disruptive
winged mica
for ABI now
vivid dawn
what i think is gonna happen is that all the little good things will be stripped...
They didnt do that on mobile
Mobile is very fair monetised tbh
winged mica
there is also elite package too that gives you certain goodie which is "Like Tarkov" but the point is why is there in the first place beside for like Season Pass premium
which is a lot of ppl asking
also in Tarkov you can get Kappa from Questing
which is a 3x4
winged mica
I mean I dont play this game anyway
Im just looking at it and ppl seem like not happy
vivid dawn
Because its the tarkov crowed
they love to cry over everything
If they would just play and not look at "you can buy koen" they would notice that their money just piles up if they dont suck
winged mica
honestly dont think buying better gear won't add much if you are bad in game
if you get killed them whoop waste of 10 bucks
tho you can buy better keychain by using money too which I think is kinda neat
I always need more key spaces
vivid dawn
honestly dont think buying better gear won't add much if you are bad in game
Thats the point
winged mica
but still shoulda make higher container to be obtainable via questing
vivid dawn
but still shoulda make higher container to be obtainable via questing
Which they are
winged mica
like ya kno funny enough Tarkov
which they aren't rn
anyway its Chinese game you guys can enjoy it
imma frequently shit on it
wintry ridge
Buyabke Koen is a good rmt skip
maybe?
people will still RMT and sell koen for cheaper than the game does
that happened with gta online
lyric cairn
Anyone arguing that a f2p game shouldn't have monetization doesn't understand reality
What the hell did I just read?
Tf?
People just mad to be mad
Play the game for an hour and almost everything I just read is dumb, moot, or both
And I don't think I'll be playing it very much, just saying
strong hinge
Anyone arguing that a f2p game shouldn't have monetization doesn't understand re...
retard, im arguing against monetization that can give advantages or "skip grind"
stuck tapir
retard, im arguing against monetization that can give advantages or "skip grind"
Was gonna say that minus retard
lyric cairn
Have you played the game?
lyric cairn
I played for a few hours yesterday and took a browse through the store. I don't really feel like there's any major advantages that make a serious difference in a gunfight that cannot be earned with a very, very tiny amount of effort
stuck tapir
I can easily see this style of mtx spiral outta control 2 months down the line, depsite the game playing okay, minus the retard AI
strong hinge
how would someone playing the game change the fact that that form of monetization shouldnt be in the game, if you can achieve everything in game why even have it, customisation and battle passes are just fine as a monetization method, its their fault for not implementing them yet
lyric cairn
I can easily see this style of mtx spiral outta control 2 months down the line, ...
Aight fair, I can't argue with that
strong hinge
like i even said, there is the possibility of the games balance changing to favor these mtx things more
because they damn well wont remove them if they arent profitable
lyric cairn
Yeah but that's a hypothetical that doesn't exist right now
You can only judge the game as-is
strong hinge
its tencent
lyric cairn
If people wanna buy a Vudu and have me take it from them, that's on them
stuck tapir
But the thing is it doesnt feel like you need to buy any currency cause im dogshit and im still loaded
Its so easy to just top gear up at lvl 5
lyric cairn
I felt the same
stuck tapir
M61 class 5
But once that availability and progression is balanced and padded out
Buying koen is gonna annoy you xause youre the only one thats outta default stock for ammo
While some 15 yo with moms card can just bank himself repedeatly
lyric cairn
Doubled my money in just a few hours. Economy needs to be tuned. If it's tuned to be more difficult to make cash, then I can forsee people's arguments being stronger. as for now, I feel like it's one of those things that looks really bad on paper but in practice is totally moot
stuck tapir
Just sell fucking skins
stuck tapir
Doubled my money in just a few hours. Economy needs to be tuned. If it's tuned t...
Yeah its not a problem rn
But its a timebomb
strong hinge
It's presence is a problem
stuck tapir
That
strong hinge
It simply shouldn't be there
stuck tapir
It sets a precedent for predatory mtx
lyric cairn
Only if it's successful
lyric cairn
Then what's that say about us?
strong hinge
People simply don't get that you gotta oppose shit like that when it happens, instead of justifying it by saying it's not so bad now
lyric cairn
We lost this battle a long, long time ago
strong hinge
Ah yes, giving up
lyric cairn
People simply don't get that you gotta oppose shit like that when it happens, in...
Yeah the time for that was 15 years ago
strong hinge
And this is why it will keep getting worse, because y'all don't do anything and keep saying you missed your shot
lyric cairn
Look, I used to be super into NBA 2K. I walked into work the day the new one came out, and my coworker told me he spent 150 dollars on MTX, in addition to the game
We lost
lyric cairn
Yeah but it only takes a fraction of a fraction of the population to succumb
Like, I'm with you guys but it's ogre
Joever, even
Never bought a single microtransaction of any kind in my life and it's still much much worse than its ever been
wintry ridge
We just have to stop huying the garbage
literally impossible
its like asking everyone to stop littering
people are just gonna be idiots
stuck tapir
literally impossible
I wanna argue that so hard, that people have innate moral compass in isolation, unless pressured but nah
You right
People are too agreeable
And they have surrendered
wintry ridge
People are too agreeable
no its not even that
even if like 99% of people stop buying mtx, all it takes is 1 cash cow for them to keep a store up
its like zero cost for them to keep an mtx store up
frozen olive
I wanna argue that so hard, that people have innate moral compass in isolation, ...
People have innate moral compass in isolation:abused children like
stuck tapir
The whole shopping cart being societal lythmus test, I think they would all just leave it thetr
stuck tapir
even if like 99% of people stop buying mtx, all it takes is 1 cash cow for them ...
This
stuck tapir
People have innate moral compass in isolation:abused children like
But do you return the shopping cart if noones watching? 
wintry ridge
I think they should put mushrooms into the water supply and everyone should experience ego death
frozen olive
But do you return the shopping cart if noones watching? <:KEK:115037839973548441...
Yes
frozen olive
I think they should put mushrooms into the water supply and everyone should exp...
America, lead pipes
stuck tapir
I think they should put mushrooms into the water supply and everyone should exp...
I took the magic dose of 5 g of golden teachers and it cured me being full of shit
stuck tapir
America, lead pipes
50 years of tetraethyl lead in gasoline as additive really shows on their brains
wintry ridge
@frozen olive you saw the uhh
trailer right?
did you see the 2:08 part
the fuckin mortar strike
wintry ridge
the fuckin mortar strike
i thought it was a GL or something but like
theres a crazy arc on that projectile
stark torrent
mortar strikes ye
wintry ridge
mortar strikes ye
i dont wanna be like "modders did it first" since bsg has prolly be working on that shit for years and hopefully its in a better state than the mod version of it
stark torrent
i dont wanna be like "modders did it first" since bsg has prolly be working on t...
prob not
wintry ridge
if the mortars aren't just renamed frag nades then i think its in a better state than modded mortars lmao
winged mica
https://youtu.be/1Jlyhs7yOLY?si=k3SMeQBn0GJ7bn49
Damn when did this come out
stark torrent
if the mortars aren't just renamed frag nades then i think its in a better state...
watch it be just rain of impact nades
wintry ridge
Damn when did this come out
10 hours ago
wintry ridge
watch it be just rain of impact nades
hopefully its not some ll4 lightkeeper locked shit
bronze flare or some shit
winged mica
if the mortars aren't just renamed frag nades then i think its in a better state...
Idk if itd be in
They teased destructible walls back during Street but never added it
Like breaching charge that blew down walls
wintry ridge
They teased destructible walls back during Street but never added it
honestly true
it might not be in for a while
destructible walls would be so cool still
having like
locked rooms but they can only be breached by a charge
so its like factory exit key where you can use it on multiple doors/rooms
winged mica
Tripwire Grenades are gonna be a huge pain
Especially how dark the game is those are very easily missable
wintry ridge
Tripwire Grenades are gonna be a huge pain
real
flashlights are gonna be necessary now
winged mica
Hope they made the wire easily be seen or not as invisible
wintry ridge
oh god im just waiting for the bugged tripwire spots where they clip thru floor clutter
tripwire hidden by cardboard n shit
wintry ridge
cant wait for stankrat or whatever to abuse it
wintry ridge
And there is seemingly new Factory expansion?
yeah
they're reworking old factory
expansion i think stays the same
winged mica
Killa seems like he could spawn in Factory now
wintry ridge
so they're just improving it to the tier that expansion is im pretty sure
winged mica
New factory seems very vass
Like it looks way bigger scale
There is new Uzi and Desert Eagle and SR3M
I dont think theres SR3M in game yet?
Only the 30 round mag is in
wintry ridge
I dont think theres SR3M in game yet?
nope
only the mag
deagle might be a nice mid game between mateba and rsh
should be able to take scopes i think
if you have some extended barrel
winged mica
I wonder if they add 3 calibers in game
Or its just gonna be 357
Having a .50 AE prob be a nice hatchet since that thing deals shit ton of damage to flesh if added
I feel like Uzi is gonna be Peacekeep 1
Very simple SMG and looks very eco unless they are doing something to it
Either Peacekeep or Skier
wintry ridge
Having a .50 AE prob be a nice hatchet since that thing deals shit ton of damage...
honestly i dont see any reason why they cant
they added .357 JUST for the revolver no one uses
uzi might be skier
winged mica
they added .357 JUST for the revolver no one uses
The quest was a chore to do and the 357 doesnt offer pen
wintry ridge
skier is like the criminal dude and the uzi is a classic movie criminal gun
deagle might be PK and skier
wintry ridge
The quest was a chore to do and the 357 doesnt offer pen
.50 ae should offer pen atleast
winged mica
SR3M is prap
wintry ridge
tier 4 hopefully
maybe they'll add some .50 ae AP round or something with like 60 flesh 40 pen
no way deagle wont have insane recoil with .50ae
its a heavy gun but that round is beefy
winged mica
I feel like 50 AE should deal like 90-110 damage on FMJ
But pen like t2
These are different types
Feel like SPEER might be one with highest pen
wintry ridge
.50 ae doesnt pen 3a armor BUT
which I think is like class 3 in game
dapper grotto
surely this will be the wipe that fixes everything and makes the game fun
(yes i will burn another 800 hours of my life on this crap starting next week help)
unborn aspen
Did they actually go through with reverting the armor hitbox changes?
Literally last wipe was fucking peak, I just stopped playing when they $250 edition came out
Are they still selling it?
dapper grotto
Did they actually go through with reverting the armor hitbox changes?
kinda unfucked the armor changes
armor is lowkey insane atm
unborn aspen
kinda unfucked the armor changes
I saw a post that they were making the armor hitboxes cover the whole body again
Or cover larger areas, whatever it was
dapper grotto
not exactly they made the zones larger again
unborn aspen
Like got rid of all the gaps that balanced armor lmao
dapper grotto
havent gotten armpit shot in like 15 raids yet
dapper grotto
classic bsg
unborn aspen
"hey guys so we're gonna make it so armor isn't an end-all be-all solution to everything, to make it more realistic and fair across gear levels."
Streamers:
BSG:
daring torrent
busy hands bug still exists after 8 years
winged mica
This wipe gonna be worth trying?
Idc man
More contents for SPT
so its worth it for me
Idk about people playing MP
wintry ridge
@stark torrent hop on delta force
cori and I found some secret morse code bunker
didnt solve it yet
unborn aspen
I am kinda surprised but not surprised
I figured they'd make it .357 cause there's already .357, but if you're gonna add a Deagle, you may as well make it .50AE.
stuck tapir
I figured they'd make it .357 cause there's already .357, but if you're gonna ad...
thank you
noone gaf about a .357 deagle
unborn aspen
See, what I expected was .44 Magnum, because they could move towards making other handcannons.
stuck tapir
nooo god forbid, then they would have to add fun weapons like lever actions and single action revolvers
unborn aspen
Lmao
I meant more like
S&W M29
Ooorrr
MR37, even
But those would be pretty gucci.
stuck tapir
i am nuts for revos
unborn aspen
They probably wanted to keep it more tame
stuck tapir
im sad it has to be a chiappa
unborn aspen
Yet still totally iconic
stuck tapir
rsh is nice
unborn aspen
im sad it has to be a chiappa
Italians screaming rn
There's just no good modern Russian revolver ig
stuck tapir
its pretty but i wanna be a cowboy
unborn aspen
The RSh12 is just for shits and gigs
stuck tapir
not some range dween
unborn aspen
They should add the Nagant revolver.
stuck tapir
They should add the Nagant revolver.
just asset port all hunt showdown
i would not mind
wintry ridge
isn't this the M60E4
yeah
wintry ridge
this micro uzi looks goofy
micro and normal uzi right?
winged mica
I think so yeh
wintry ridge
micro uzi prolly gonna be another mp9
winged mica
shoots faster tho
wintry ridge
normal might fit the same role as mp5
winged mica
it clocks 1000 RPM irl full auto
wintry ridge
mp9 is like 1100
winged mica
if anything
wintry ridge
only 30 round mags tho
winged mica
I think Micro Uzi might be pistol slot
wintry ridge
if the micro uzi has drum mags its nice
wintry ridge
I think Micro Uzi might be pistol slot
it should be
really
same role as glock 18
isn't just outclassed by the other uzi in the same slot
they prolly cost similar
winged mica
Tarkov MP9 is 900 RPM
wintry ridge
introducing both uzis as primary smgs would be stupid
winged mica
Micro Uzi is around 1000-1200 irl
god the recoil is going to be hilarious
but the Glock is around that
so apparently
in-game trailer it looks like the Desert Eagle able to pen Killa's helmet
ok lol
as I was saying "We need to have a BEAR rogue boss" and it looks like Partisan is literally what I was asking for
unborn aspen
in-game trailer it looks like the Desert Eagle able to pen Killa's helmet
It could be just staging.
wintry ridge
in-game trailer it looks like the Desert Eagle able to pen Killa's helmet
its .50ae and it might have hit the helmet and not the mask
the helmet is like tier 4 right?
maybe top tier .50ae can pen tier 4?
unborn aspen
Frota.
unborn aspen
There are full rifle bullets that just barely pass 4.
Unless they give us some JUICED .50AE
No.
wintry ridge
bsg likes adding interesting rounds
.50 AE ap would be cool
some craft only round
unborn aspen
I mean there may be SOME kind of AP.
wintry ridge
mechanics custom ammo load
unborn aspen
But I can't see it going over 3.
wintry ridge
if a pistol can't pen tier 3 its kinda mediocre
winged mica
so it could either go neck or at the face shield
wintry ridge
the 5.7 and srimp are the best sidearms solely because they can pen class 3 pretty easily
winged mica
damn Maska is class 6
so the round can go through Class 6 face shield that's ridiculous
wintry ridge
in-game trailer it looks like the Desert Eagle able to pen Killa's helmet
also where is that at
winged mica
that's what I said