💣tarkov-released

[stoic lantern]

Hey man, how else do you expect me to deal with the hordes of scavs after you drop the first one

New wishlist thingo, look in your settings and you can select what you want to be blue

[ancient marsh]

it's so over

[gray compass]

who tf is this

[strong hinge]

its Ref

[gray compass]

did they remove gp coins?

[vivid dawn]

Nah

GP are Refs currency

aka Arena coins now xD

[gray compass]

yeah i cant find any of the gp coin barters anymore

and all of the ones i had in my inv are also gone

thanks bsg

[vivid dawn]

Because their all in Refs shop

Not that it matters end of the wipe anyway

[naive wave]

when wipe

[lyric cairn]

Probably in the next couple of weeks. We're still waiting for end-of-wipe events.

[stuck tapir]

thursday

[stark torrent]

fuck knows

some hope for next week

but could be more

[pallid bolt]

not sure if anyone else has experienced this

but when I have my generator running in SPT while I'm in raid, I get really bad stutters

no generator, no stutter, even crafting, no stutter

any idea for a remedy?

[stuck tapir]

Hunt: Showdown

[strong hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-hop-on-dark-and-darker-dark-and-darker-gaming-skeleton-gif-17125075728784947218

[stuck tapir]

or that

[stoic lantern]

only line I could draw is maybe the new wishlist stuff is buggin

[lyric cairn]

Is the server throwing any errors? You might be able to ask on the SPT discord

[soft coral]

👌

[frozen olive]

Escape from Server

[soft coral]

Wdym bro you're just bad , just dodge man
there are no hackers in tarkov nikita said they ban them we must believe him
landmark says he doesn't meet cheaters obv theres no cheaters
oh you got shot 9 times instantly by 9mm GT? damn skill issue
learn to play
Shots 1/5 clearly missed shots 6/10 bad recoil control
bad map knowledge
just learn the rotations
shit map anyway

[stuck tapir]

cheats are lie from Big Arena to get players to switch over

[winged mica]

very AI generative person

[lyric cairn]

Tf? Landmark makes entire cheater raid compilations

Quoted wrong message but you know what I mean

[soft coral]

ye ye

[dapper grotto]

https://x.com/nikgeneburn/status/1822323813536702549

Nikita Buyanov (@nikgeneburn) on X

Twitter · Aug 10, 2024, 5:27 PM

[soft coral]

only took them 8 years

[stark torrent]

oh my god im going to

[dapper grotto]

about to turn this into gooncave 2.0 after helldivers chat

[lyric cairn]

What about helldivers chat?

[dapper grotto]

place is ledy's gooncave

[vivid dawn]

Deagle lel

ABI has it on release

[wintry ridge]

abi isnt working off a old ass engine where for every new gun they add it inroduces like 30 new bugs

[winged mica]

50 caliber lets go

Totally and absolutely useless against PACA

[stark torrent]

If you cant aim , sure

[frozen olive]

The goon of tarkov

Goonkov

[stuck tapir]

well guess im playin the next wipe fml

[soft coral]

Tarkov players see one tiny change

and praise the game as if its the greatest thing

[daring torrent]

imagine it uses its own .44 instead of .357

[dapper grotto]

[stuck tapir]

i will literally play wipe if deagle is in .44

and i hate the fucking game

10k hours since 2017

[dapper grotto]

watch the ammo be behind PK4

[stuck tapir]

just dont lock it behind a quest

[ancient marsh]

please be .357 and add better .357 ammo

please

i fucking HATE THEM ADDING LIKE 3 AMMOS FOR EVERY NEW CALIBER AND THEN ABANDONING IT

HP, SP and FMJ

[dapper grotto]

or just rewert the 357 nerfs

357 ap was fucking on release

[ancient marsh]

when did they ever nerf it?

there's no AP

sp hp fmj

[dapper grotto]

the fmj

[daring torrent]

i will forever be pissed that the ppsh cant be modded or have ok ammo

[ancient marsh]

just so you know

it was even worse

on release

just saying

32 pen

it's 35 now

yeah there was no update where it was better than it is now

it only used to be even worse

just saying

[ancient marsh]

good

cause there's no good ammo for that caliber

also modding it would look so fucking cursed

[dapper grotto]

my memory might be fucking with me

[ancient marsh]

it is

[daring torrent]

good!

[ancient marsh]

i pulled up the wiki history function

[ancient marsh]

no

[daring torrent]

i always get my tapco sks back in insurance

my bad taste rewards me

[ancient marsh]

why would anyone take an sks

[lyric cairn]

Tapco SKS haters can suck one

[winged mica]

Wouldnt mind as long as we can swap barrel

[pallid bolt]

Turns out my problem was most likely the server and launcher kinda being fucked up since I alt tab like 400 times throughout my game session. I have a really nasty habit of alt tabbing on long loading screens so I think I caused a hitch in the programs

One server reboot and it was working as normal

[lyric cairn]

Glad your issue is fixed, then

[frosty basalt]

I just realized that LL3 prapor sells 7U40 or whatever it’s called for the shrimp and the sr2

37 pen

Pretty good

I can’t even buy rifle rounds with that good of a pen

[wintry ridge]

PLEASEEE

.357 needs a fucking AP round that has good flesh damage

like ps12b tier

[ancient marsh]

what's that one called

that's on demo ranch all the time

[wintry ridge]

if i'm gonna use the chiappa rhino

[ancient marsh]

super penetrator or some shit

[wintry ridge]

ATLEAST let me 1 tap someone if I hit them in the head

[ancient marsh]

it's shaped like a cross kinda

all brass

[wintry ridge]

fucking fmj, the best round, is stopped by face shields

like all of them

[wintry ridge]

xtreme

[ancient marsh]

yeah whatever

[ancient marsh]

no

like half of them don't

most face shields suck balls

[wintry ridge]

its got 35 pen

thats not always gonna pop a tier 3 face shield

@ancient marsh fuck the extreme penetrator

we using the sharpened pencil

[ancient marsh]

wuh

[wintry ridge]

corroded mf ammo

[ancient marsh]

it always will

what?

what do you think the calculation is

[wintry ridge]

gun shoot. bullet bounce off armor

[ancient marsh]

basically to have like 90% chance to pen an armor class

you need X armor class *10 in pen

so 30 for 3

[wintry ridge]

there are some wild pistol ammos

[ancient marsh]

it's like 30% for class 4 if you have 35 pen

[wintry ridge]

like wtf is this

[naive wave]

A 9mm round

[ancient marsh]

a crime

😭

[wintry ridge]

that shit does NOT look like a normal cross section of HP ammo

[ancient marsh]

.357 THV looks scary as fuck

[ancient marsh]

a shotgun esque round

[wintry ridge]

lil flechette 9x19

good for ruining ur glock barrel

[ancient marsh]

have you seen the Zubilo round? @wintry ridge

for 9x21

in eft

[wintry ridge]

what about it

[ancient marsh]

do you have eft?

[wintry ridge]

yeah

[ancient marsh]

can you open it

open it and look at the tip

[ancient marsh]

i said look at the tip

[wintry ridge]

i dont have eft installed

only arena

[ancient marsh]

is there a ahandbook

handbook

in arena

[wintry ridge]

maybe?

ill check

nope

[ancient marsh]

fine

fuck you

i will open tarkov

you made me do it

cunt

[wintry ridge]

okay goober

[ancient marsh]

@wintry ridge

[wintry ridge]

what about it

[ancient marsh]

triangle tip

dingus

we were talking about weird ammos

[wintry ridge]

yeah look at it IRL stupid

coulda just googled the ammo

flathead

phillips

[naive wave]

What the fuck

[ancient marsh]

idk actually if this one is real

iirc it's supposed to be like

full brass

like solid brass slug

[frozen olive]

cute

[wintry ridge]

[frosty basalt]

Blackhill ammo

I was just looking at this in 9mm for self defense

[frosty basalt]

Hornady critical duty has HP with silicone rubber ball in the concave part of the bullet better suited for targets wearing multiple layers of fabric or one thick layer of fabric to prevent the HP from essentially threading the clothing and reducing the effective cavitation

Good for shooting winter intruders

[ancient marsh]

Ok

[winged mica]

Me when people eat 9mm AP round for breakfast

[wintry ridge]

@ancient marsh you know what i jus thought about

that deagle is prolly not gonna have any new .357 rounds

and knowing bsg its gonna be a fuckin pk3 gun

[pallid bolt]

Any half decent gun must be locked behind L3 or greater for some ass reason

[compact knoll]

Fuck the .357

I want the .500 magnum

[frosty basalt]

It’s crazy how fucking affordable LL3 guns are off traders compared to flea midwipe

If you hit ll3 early you’re cooking

[soft coral]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wLNMRm6CWVA?si=quaV6vBBp-3ekz-u

[keen sparrow]

lol, fuck this game

[keen sparrow]

Took me 1 day to rig the ripped model, upscale and scuff the texture, create custom sounds, and code it in. Literally no reason for BSG to only release 4 guns a year.

[soft coral]

Bsg at this point don't develop the game like a normal studio

They have reached the point where they capitalize on as much sales as possible to keep them going and release barebones updates from time to time to make it look like they are "actively" working on the game

They have 100% reached that point

no idea how people still play this

0 brain activity that's why I suppsoe

[ancient marsh]

Now animation 3 different sets of mastery, add attachments, balance it

Add new ammo

[soft coral]

activision pump out new games every year and bsg take 6 months to make a deagle model

you cant think this is a good development cycle

They purposefully develop the game slowly

[dapper grotto]

they arent

[soft coral]

[dapper grotto]

they just incompetent muppets

[soft coral]

They do

both

They suck at coding and because of that the development cycle takes years

they make a mistake which they dont know how to fix

takes them 2 months to fix game breaking bugs every wipe

we've been through this man

[dapper grotto]

also the tarkov code at this point must look the mind of an ancient elderich god

[earnest timber]

Code so bad the game breaks my PC and have to hard reset every time

[soft coral]

Literally

discord has crashed every time tarkov crashed in the past

and my pc freezes for a few seconds

[keen sparrow]

I literally made .50AE, the .blend file has the mastery animations already, and half of BSG’s guns don’t have extra attachments.

[dapper grotto]

[earnest timber]

As if they make their own gun models from scratch

[keen sparrow]

After ripping open multiple BSG weapon containers, it is abundantly clear they have multiple people doing guns and none of the, talk to each other

Every gun borrows ak47 sounds

Many are missing left hand animations for the compass

The MDR barrel bundle is outside the items/mods/barrels folder

[earnest timber]

They couldn't even bother making animations for shoulder switching

[keen sparrow]

It’s a fucking mess and it’s a miracle the game starts for anyone

[keen sparrow]

Accurate representation of how BSG’s BTR works

It was an invisible scav with a special shotgun hidden inside the vehicle on a spline

[dapper grotto]

[earnest timber]

I've seen that as i was messing in SPTarkov

[keen sparrow]

If I had a throwaway discord account I’d join the official discord and spam questions that only the devs would know the answers to

“Can Nikita give my custom ammo an enum so it doesn’t conflict with weapon zeroing logic?”

Just fuck with em, lol

[ancient marsh]

?

[keen sparrow]

Your arms just hover over

Instead of switching hands

[ancient marsh]

Is that why I occasionally hear a jump landing sound

[keen sparrow]

[hallow stream]

Thats pretty fucking funny

Considering tarkov is basically getting triple a game type money

[next temple]

Classic spaghetti code

[toxic kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871467023333470218/899673889486032896/video0.mp4?ex=66b97b5a&is=66b829da&hm=32bf9cc6c6ee67c9f11c6d94231ff99fee25032895d0f602227f967415045b7b&
I mean...This is from 2021.

[brittle sinew]

A fucking deagle in tarkov, god damn it

[compact knoll]

You Will be surprised

The double barrel

Is like

2018 or some shit

They teased it when they teased streets of tarkov

Everything new is good forgotten old

[ancient marsh]

man that looks so cool

[toxic kayak]

That? nah, that's basic.
Now look at this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233778910207148072/1240502590601433120/3.8.0CODolBepInEx-ODDBA.mp4?ex=66ba26d1&is=66b8d551&hm=c4b2abd3f83e278e0200b0eaa977a44d6cb9ce16f44175ee3bd243343909b3a6&

[ancient marsh]

that's from that call of duty online

[toxic kayak]

i mean, it's in the name.

[ancient marsh]

to me it looks like a random amount of characters

[pallid bolt]

COD OL bepinex

[wintry ridge]

i like how the shotgun mode is literally just normal cod shotguns

unusable past 20 feet

[toxic kayak]

I mean, technically they posses the damage to be usable... but not the accuracy.

[wintry ridge]

accuracy is mostly from the gun itself no?

like mp133 with long barrel is pretty good

double barrel has like 15 moa or something with express buckshot

and long barrel

[stuck tapir]

technically you need only one pellet from magnum fuck at 100m to headshot someone instantly, MOA can be forgiving

[ancient marsh]

153 best semi for acc

[compact knoll]

Im pretty sure they made it not one shot you if only one pellet hits

[keen sparrow]

That mod does something to base BSG animations and will brick your shit if you install it

[toxic kayak]

Shh, it's about the looks, not functionality :D

[soft coral]

Bro didn't know

its so obvious too

its legit the same model they just mirrored it with a slight transition

[vivid dawn]

why

[native crypt]

new thermal scope craft (eod only)

[vivid dawn]

Dont forget ABI preload tomorrow

[ancient marsh]

is that the

[vivid dawn]

its the beacon dongle

yes

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

im boutta release

like doc in dms

im grippin

[soft coral]

MONTAGG

[vivid dawn]

Dienstag

[stuck tapir]

Escape from Minneappolis

[wintry ridge]

security
stealing

the irony

[stuck tapir]

secured all that shit for himself

[rich venture]

L German

[vivid dawn]

How would you know if its not Austrian

Ich schieb dir nen Semmel in popo

Yeah ok German i cant Austrian

[rich venture]

Lmao

I'm so happy I didn't inherit the German language

Shit grammar

Too much

[stark torrent]

LVNDMARK predicts they might not wipe soon because BSG leaves to gamescom in Germany on 18th , would make little sense to wipe close to that date or during that date.

Early August my cock

[vivid dawn]

Ohh so Nikita is in reach again

Cologne is like 2 hours away

[rich venture]

I can use the rest of my shit then

Yippee

[rich venture]

Ask him for a kiss if you go there then

[stuck tapir]

bruh they gonna be too broke to wipe

one more shitty live stand and theyre done for

[rich venture]

Don't worry they'll release the audio edition and make their money back

Access to all subsequent audio dlcs

[vivid dawn]

Thats the issue i aint going since it costs a fortune sinc3 corona

[rich venture]

That's quite unfortunate

But also fair enough

[vivid dawn]

Mfzcking hotel for a week 1,2k

Going one day is not wortg

[rich venture]

[rich venture]

Fr

[vivid dawn]

Going for the weekend only is also not wortj

Way to crowded

Tuesday best day cause you only get in with VIP Tickets

[rich venture]

Ye especially if it's just for tarkov

[vivid dawn]

As if i go there just for Tarkov

I met tons of awesome people there

Seeying them once a year would be nice

It would be worth to ask Nikita if Spaghettie is his favourite food since the Tarkov code is based on Pasta

[rich venture]

Yeah

[rich venture]

I think Nikita adores spaghetti personally

[ancient marsh]

america is a shithole

[stuck tapir]

im in groups called "Seattle looks like Shit" and "San Fran Looks like shit" and theres just daily uploads of like tent fires and fent nappers, i cannot

[ancient marsh]

2b2t headass

[stuck tapir]

i mean yeah cali and washington are anarchy servers at this point

[ancient marsh]

when i heard they are giving people free crack pipes, its' over

[frozen olive]

Take the shot, give him a good old JFK makeover

[winged mica]

Remember

Smirk some poops over the suit to be odor camo

[winged mica]

Ok hold on

San Francisco isnt Cali

I mean it is in Cali but its not entire Cali

Man I must have been living in denial

[stuck tapir]

i mean sf, ls, oakland, sacramento, thats all cali

and all shit

hahhaa

[soft coral]

surprised?

[stuck tapir]

didnt expect seein darkviper

[rich venture]

Lvndmark is also a robot

[stuck tapir]

that runs of a mix of adderal and something

[soft coral]

bozomark is your typical bsg meatrider

[stuck tapir]

love how all these dedicated tarkov streamers are just tweaking the fuck out if you catch them hour 7 or later into stream

[rich venture]

He was created by bsg to shill their product

[soft coral]

Same with glorious

[rich venture]

Yeah but glorious actually shows some emotion

Lvndmark is literally a sleeper agent

The numbers activate and he plays tarkov

[soft coral]

both are meatriders

[stark torrent]

he literally isnt stop pulling shit out of your ass man

you hate tarkov , sure, but if u dont follow what happens then at least dont drop shit

Landmark right now has a very tarnished relation with BSG , Glorious even as well

[soft coral]

bro got pissed

[stark torrent]

They are playing it cause thats how they make money / their career but they have criticised the game in the last year than in their last 5 years combined

Especially landmark

Like there is a reason they are not invited to events anymore

[stuck tapir]

is klean still in dicksuck council?

[stark torrent]

Like Landmark openly said BSG is a shit company for doing the Unheard stuff and that the game will never reach it's peak again because of how BSG is running things

[stark torrent]

Idk , i think he distanced himself from main Tarkov overall , he plays SPT and shit

He definetely doesnt criticise openly

So maybe

Most of his ideas nowadays is " would be cool to ( insert idea here ) " that lets be real , it's only for banter and will never be added

[soft coral]

Klean moved on

[soft coral]

"would be cool if the game was being developed at a decent pace"

[stark torrent]

The dicksuckers are Airwingmarine , Gingy

NoiceGuy

[soft coral]

big time

[stark torrent]

These ones will never criticise shit about BSG even when they shit in their face

[soft coral]

and then there's tigz on the other side of the spectrum

[stark torrent]

Tigz is goated , the man knows his audience

Everybody cries he cries about the game yet everyone listenes and agrees to him

Because he is right overall

and we start the prewipe events

so i think we have instant crafting and faster skill leveling

This changes nothing

[soft coral]

CEMENT

[stark torrent]

we are building a new server for bsg

[soft coral]

they are building the streets expansion

3 times bigger than all maps combined btw @stark torrent

remember that quote

agent like cheap milk

[stark torrent]

nah , they said they are not explanding streets anymore they realised only like 30% of the playerbase can run the map

BSG

[soft coral]

ofc

and to think they were so ambitious about that map

now its interchange with extra steps

classic

[vivid dawn]

Vodka vodka e e

[daring torrent]

im glad that map is way too big

[ancient marsh]

prewipe has started

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/416365115093286939/1272491235709419602/image.png?ex=66bb2b50&is=66b9d9d0&hm=9bc6dfde2cc11c534373db5b28ad43bb47c23e99fa54966b9d203094433f9a30&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/416365115093286939/1272490972869169172/image.png?ex=66bb2b11&is=66b9d991&hm=0c8cfd338ed3d3711db4c0b48eef05a57cc7ab7e523823614ec30141ca4c112d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

what

fake?

am i wrong

[stark torrent]

no

recycled events tho

for the 3rd time now

[ancient marsh]

oh

idc

prewipe started

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

preBUSS leakin

[stark torrent]

yeah i guess

[ancient marsh]

im drippin and grippin

BOOM

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-last-moment-twitch-whispers-meme-stop-gif-2413465246570753776

me being informed it's a mistake again and wipe has been delayed 2 months

[stark torrent]

nah but it definetely will be funny to see BSG go to gamescom

while wipe bugs start poppin

[ancient marsh]

i s2g nikita will soon start showing up with body armor on 😭

some retard plate gap defender gonna be aiming for the gaps for changing the hitboxes

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

imagine nikita presenting claymores and tripwires addition while wearing a fucking bomb disposal suit

https://tenor.com/view/juggernaut-mw-modern-warfare-cod-call-of-duty-gif-3214228519352779694

[stark torrent]

Everyone is looking for beers on woods

[autumn estuary]

Spearfishing?

[stuck tapir]

youre hellbent on playing only the most soul consuming shit arent you

[stark torrent]

Listen man , i can find players again , taht is rare for this game

[stuck tapir]

i just worry man, dota, tarkov, i wonder if you ever unwind

you play anthing thats not a JOB

??

[stark torrent]

Yes

I play Total War , Helldivers etc

[stuck tapir]

fair

completely unhinged then

[lyric cairn]

Idey is a moderator for a discord with 500k members, and the discord is for a mod pack of a total conversion mod built on a modded engine for a 15 year old game.

Of course he's only going to play big dick games.

[autumn estuary]

I though muppet was the term for that

[keen sparrow]

Another Gun added to Tapkob. At this rate BSG should just hire me.

[lyric cairn]

Best they can do is sue you

[keen sparrow]

I have no assets, liquid or otherwise

[lyric cairn]

Then they add another 5.45 ak to the game out of spite

And double the size of Lighthouse

[dapper grotto]

expand southern road so you can spawn even further from anything usefull

[autumn estuary]

Clearly they need to expand all maps to be 50% larger than shoreline.

[stuck tapir]

taxmaxxin

[lyric cairn]

I've reached the point in my SPT run where I'm getting lighthouse quests and I'm reminded of how horrible this map is

[keen sparrow]

PreviewPivots always look so damn good, wtf

[stuck tapir]

this really looks good wth

[keen sparrow]

Imagine if EFT was a monthly sub game, lmao

[autumn estuary]

I don't massively hate lighthouse in SPT, it could really do with boosted raid times though imo

[stuck tapir]

dont give them fuckin ideas

nikita has to feed all the bullshit stalls and tournaments somehow

[keen sparrow]

they'd make more money but

no more Q6 month bullshit

I think only big, really good MMOs can get away with that

they'd have to actually make shit instead of drip feeding

[brittle sinew]

AR platform weapon number 382

[keen sparrow]

what, you want more combloc?

lol

[brittle sinew]

Neither??

[keen sparrow]

AK number 1297?

[brittle sinew]

Just because I don't like X doesn't mean I like Y

[stuck tapir]

i wouldnt be opposed to that if they can present their plan on dealing with current tech debt the game accumulated

[brittle sinew]

I think there are enough guns, attachments would be a better thing to focus on.

[keen sparrow]

EpicRangeTime's shit adds well over 100 attachments. ~50 of which are handguards

[brittle sinew]

Alright nice

[keen sparrow]

i think the last number he quoted was 300

[brittle sinew]

Hopefully they're viable and not meme

[keen sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875705856623263764/1272545768070447155/Escape_From_Tarkov_Screenshot_2024.08.12_-_06.20.14.45.png?ex=66bb5e19&is=66ba0c99&hm=6fa1172e95dd5c8440da76c15424d5928fa616179849a31dd4e0e02e178d9154& His Unity riser with a G33 is viable

[brittle sinew]

Regardless, if there are to be more guns, it would be best to do variety

Or popular items, of course

[keen sparrow]

I just did 2 IWI bullpups a few weeks ago. those were kinda boring to make though

[brittle sinew]

Big fan of the WTT SVD, that should've been in vanilla since the SVD-S

[brittle sinew]

Tavor and?

[keen sparrow]

X95

[brittle sinew]

Oh of course

Nice

Boring to make... Because they are boring

[keen sparrow]

more cause they're like... the container and 2-4 attachments

[brittle sinew]

5.56 bullpup, I sleep

[keen sparrow]

there's barely anything there

[brittle sinew]

Yeah not much to add with bullpups in tark

I know the X95 has aftermarket handguards

[keen sparrow]

i didn't bother to source models for them

anything i could find was fictional shit from CoD

[keen sparrow]

[keen sparrow]

y'know? i don't hate it

[brittle sinew]

Many things to do, but it's all just handguard

Not much else to cook with, maybe bolts or gas pistons just for stats

[keen sparrow]

ugh, balancing for this game is aids

[brittle sinew]

Painfully aids, especially when realism is added to the mix

[brittle sinew]

What I mean by this is something not 5.56/7.62

I mean who actually uses .357, someone get a lever action already

[keen sparrow]

WTT wants to

we just don't know how to import animations yet

Lever action i mean.

there's just no analogue to rig a model to at the moment

[brittle sinew]

Hmm, wouldn't it just work like a bolt action?

Oh in that way

[brittle sinew]

I'm low-key happy they're adding the deagle to tarkov, just because it makes .357 viable

[keen sparrow]

yeah, current practice is to open one of their models with animations, stick your model over the top of theirs, delete their model and pair your model to their animation bones

[brittle sinew]

Oh alright

[keen sparrow]

IF they don't make a .50 AE cartridge

could make both and just have seperate barrels too

[brittle sinew]

I hope they don't, tarkov doesn't need it

For big gun things we already have the rsh

[keen sparrow]

i'm of the opinion .50 AE could be a chance to make pistols viable

what's the go-to workhorse rn? the 5.7?

[brittle sinew]

That and the rsh is somewhat viable

5.7 is viable because no recoil and armor pen

.357 deagle would be viable because armor pen and damage

[keen sparrow]

that reminds me i need to give my deagle actual recoil, ty

[brittle sinew]

Of course, it's a big hunk of steel

[ancient marsh]

@keen sparrow how are preview icons done in eft btw?

do you know the code?

[keen sparrow]

It’s a script in unity

[brittle sinew]

Only two guns in the game use 7.62x25 lol

So many oddball calibers in the game that like 3 guns use

[stuck tapir]

what is this

[brittle sinew]

Like 9x21

[stuck tapir]

this looks fresh

[brittle sinew]

It's an X95

[stuck tapir]

its got drip

whats it chambered in

[brittle sinew]

5.56, it can be rechambered

[ancient marsh]

i didn't get it

[ancient marsh]

i meant like this

[brittle sinew]

More .366 guns like these would be huge

[keen sparrow]

oh, that's just the preview pivot of the weapon container

[ancient marsh]

no

because they would just turbo nerf the ammo

also that's an ak-12

is that in .366?

[keen sparrow]

i just see an AK tbh

🥱

we need a Groza

lmao

[ancient marsh]

no

gonna fucking explode in 1 mag

like the val

[brittle sinew]

Gameplay wise it'll be a better vpo209

[ancient marsh]

too many guns for that dogshit caliber at this point btw

[keen sparrow]

k, putting this into tarkov, you're welcome

[brittle sinew]

Exactly, more options for calibers is needed, not more guns for the same 4 calibers

[ancient marsh]

no not really

it's gonna be same as the val

[brittle sinew]

More reason to use oddball shit like 7,62x25 outside of memery

[ancient marsh]

no upgrade options

just diff stats

they need to instead rework guns like AUG

add a kit with rails for a foregrip

[brittle sinew]

That's the benefit, doesn't have to be modded

Same goes for aug

That's why it's awesome, I only need to put a suppressor and sight on it

[ancient marsh]

it CAN'T BE modded

not "it doesn't have to"

[brittle sinew]

It's both

I think it's a benefit, much like the AK12

Besides, there isn't much to mod on an AUG outside of handguard, barrel and receiver

[ancient marsh]

no stanag mags, no foregrip

[brittle sinew]

If you want a stanag mag bullpup, the MDR exists

For handguard, the aug already has that

[ancient marsh]

the AUG can take it

the MDR isn't 715 fire rate

[ancient marsh]

it doesn't have removable foregrips

[brittle sinew]

And that's okay

[ancient marsh]

it's a game about customizable weapons

[brittle sinew]

Is it?

[ancient marsh]

they gave us an old ass aug model

yes

it is

you're obviously being contrarian if you disagree tarkov has a massive focus on realistic and customizable weapons

[brittle sinew]

I didn't say that

I'm just saying, is it really needed? We already have super customizable weapons

I think there are better things to focus on in modding

[ancient marsh]

yes

is the obscure ass foregrip adapter on the val needed?

is the revolver needed in the game at all?

[brittle sinew]

Tbh no

We have item bloat out the ass tbh

Hmm 5 AK rear sights that aren't different at all

[brittle sinew]

Didn't someone make a snow mod before spt got updated? Would be cool to see an autumn mod

[ancient marsh]

they are interchangable with other AKs

so

if your game has a big focus on weapons customization and realism

kinda gotta have that

[brittle sinew]

It already has, how about new things?

Strive to add new shit and experiment

Not just add another AR handguard, however cool those are

The modding scene is kind of boring outside of the must have mods (SAIN, Donuts, Realism to an extent, etc.

[ancient marsh]

more dogshit that will be introduced and abandoned

like revolver

[brittle sinew]

Not new weapons, things

[wintry ridge]

not really

the val has bad durability burn because it's integrally suppressed

that 9a91 or whatever they added recently doesnt jam as much

[ancient marsh]

like?

[ancient marsh]

it does

maybe not suppressed but

[brittle sinew]

Brother open your eyes

[ancient marsh]

that gun is so fucking dogshit

you have to run suppressed

[brittle sinew]

I have already said these things

[ancient marsh]

who gives a fuck about spt

[brittle sinew]

Everyone atp

[ancient marsh]

we are gonna get autumn in base game

[brittle sinew]

Right

[wintry ridge]

the groza shouldn't be since you can actually add a foregrip and maybe an AK buttpad

[ancient marsh]

we got winter and summer

and spring

[brittle sinew]

So does the VAL?

I don't think 9x39 was made to be shot sans suppressor

[ancient marsh]

you can't not run it suppressed

[brittle sinew]

Right then

[wintry ridge]

depends on the gun no?

some need that suppressor to even cycle

[brittle sinew]

No, it's doctrine

It's a subsonic round like .300 bo

[ancient marsh]

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/АК-9

[brittle sinew]

They're sort of made for suppressors

[brittle sinew]

Even that has a suppressor on

[ancient marsh]

detachable

Vikhr

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/СР-3

coming to eft

[brittle sinew]

The VAL has a detachable suppressor too

[ancient marsh]

nope

it's the barrel

[frozen olive]

SR-3?

[brittle sinew]

The only reason you'd remove the suppressor on these 9x39 guns is for cleaning

Doctrinally you keep it on, because it performs best with a supp

[brittle sinew]

It is not

[frozen olive]

Don't they shoot subsonics only

[frozen olive]

or high gas rounds

and the supressor is kinda required

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

It's the most optimal

Sturmpioner lurking as always, ily

[ancient marsh]

it won't fire

[brittle sinew]

It can

But it's not a good idea

And doctrine says not to

Anyway it seems like you're just naysaying, what was your original point?

[dapper grotto]

i'm everywhere
watching

[brittle sinew]

Everywhere, watching, chronically online 🫵

[dapper grotto]

correct

[brittle sinew]

If nobody got me, I know Sturmpioner got me

[compact knoll]

why are you using light mode

cring

[brittle sinew]

I like it

Something called "personal preference"

[ancient marsh]

i'm the one naysaying when you're dropping retarded statements like thsi?

you can load a squib on purpose and fire

it's not a good idea

and against doctrine

[brittle sinew]

What's your point though

What are you trying to say

To refresh, my point is that modding should be more original

[ancient marsh]

i said "you have to run it suppressed" because of how bad recoil is

[ancient marsh]

which is why you are against adding a railed handguard to the aug

because it "doesn't need it"

[wintry ridge]

well then thats not you "have to"

its just "you should"

like .300 blk

[brittle sinew]

Yeah it's not required, it's just a bad idea

And probably not doctrine

[wintry ridge]

we're not using doctrine in tarkov you stinky bastard

mfs running around with sawn offs and bolt actions

[brittle sinew]

Yet it's why we can't cook grenades

[wintry ridge]

thats just game balancing

[ancient marsh]

either you miss your shots or it overheats

it's just a bad gun

isn't it like 900 fire rate too?

with 20 round mags max

[brittle sinew]

There are many ways to look at it

[wintry ridge]

its the same reason you can't do that in r6s anymore

[ancient marsh]

just no point for that gun existing

[brittle sinew]

That's a good take too, though

[ancient marsh]

no mods for it

added and abandoned

liek the aug

[wintry ridge]

its not "doctrine" its just game design

[brittle sinew]

Honestly it wasn't broken

[ancient marsh]

liek the revolver

like pl-15

[brittle sinew]

Because half of those guns aren't original and the ones that are, are basically meme guns

[ancient marsh]

like glock 18 btw

[wintry ridge]

it wasnt but the only ways to counter instakilling through any floor was either
A: remove nade cooking
B: change damage of nades through solid surfaces

and one of those is way easier to implement

[brittle sinew]

I see a PL-15 and it looks like another 9mm pistol, I won't use it

[brittle sinew]

Or realize it's kinda hard to pull off and balancing your game based on pro league is stupid

[ancient marsh]

we need more 9x18 calibers honestly

9x18 rounds*

[wintry ridge]

they need to balance the aug

[ancient marsh]

it is

[wintry ridge]

add more attachments i mean

i was reading pedros shit

[brittle sinew]

It's too good

Not OP, but just good

[wintry ridge]

its not hard to do

its just timing

[brittle sinew]

Have you played in silver before my friend

Where most people are

[ancient marsh]

yeah, as i said

a handguard

[wintry ridge]

i stopped playing r6s

[brittle sinew]

Same

[ancient marsh]

in waht way

[brittle sinew]

It's just good, that's all

Good recoil, good ergo, easy to mod, cheap

[ancient marsh]

so you're not gonna elaborate at all?

[brittle sinew]

I just did

[ancient marsh]

ergo isn't good, easy to mod as all bullpups

it's cheap like its sidegrade mdr

[wintry ridge]

I been talking about it for a while

[ancient marsh]

you can't add bigger mags onto the aug aside from the 42 rnd

[wintry ridge]

they need the handguard extension

[ancient marsh]

but it takes 3 slots and is awkward to run

[brittle sinew]

Better firerate than the MDR

[wintry ridge]

where you can add new foregrips

[ancient marsh]

worse ergo and price

[brittle sinew]

Worth it

Firerate > all other stats

It's why M4 is king and MDR is mid

And why SA-58 was king for so long, because it spits out a million 7.62 in no time

Same story for MP7

[brittle sinew]

This is ugly, but I get your point

[ancient marsh]

your 30 round mag goes faster

mdr can have a 60 rounder in 2 slots

mdr has better ergo

available earlier too btw

[brittle sinew]

Who actually uses the MDR over the AUG tho

[ancient marsh]

cause mdr consistently is cheaper

no one because people don't use 556, it's a fucking dogshit caliber

which is why aug and mdr both suck ass

[brittle sinew]

I see all the people use AUG when it's 5.56 time, never seen anyone use MDR

[brittle sinew]

Outside of the first days of wipe

[wintry ridge]

this aint ugly

[ancient marsh]

that's what i want

[wintry ridge]

stalcraft aug a3 moment

[ancient marsh]

make it take stanag mags

and it's perfect

[wintry ridge]

or

or

add a 60 rounder aug mag

[brittle sinew]

Hell no

[wintry ridge]

quad stack wafflemag

[brittle sinew]

The G36 treatment

Unrelated, but who actually uses the G36

That gun is a unicorn

[ancient marsh]

dogshit gun sadly

too high recoil

awful ergo

[wintry ridge]

aug hbar can take drum mags no?

[brittle sinew]

Seems like all 5.56 guns are dogshit when the M4 exists

[wintry ridge]

this looks like that beta C mag

[brittle sinew]

I think that's just Beta-C

They made drum mags for all rifles

And none of them worked that well lol

[ancient marsh]

m4 is dogshit too rn

[brittle sinew]

Of course it's dogshit now

It's late wipe

To me the game doesn't even exist at this point of wipe

Who plays tarkov, 200 days into wipe

[ancient marsh]

its been dogshit all wipe

[brittle sinew]

You have to be crazy or have nothing better to do

[brittle sinew]

Did fine by me

Just had to get 6A1 going

[ancient marsh]

that's pk lvl 4

everyone has class 5 by then

and that bullet is fucking useless

[brittle sinew]

No? I reckon I got it earlier

Most likely through a craft

Sad it has to be that way though

5A1 and 6A1 are just bullets irl, but to us plebs it's the shit for 5.56

[rich venture]

Hate to say it but the majority of the ppl complaining abt armour tanking shoot 90% of ppl in the arms and legs

But then only blame the thorax armour

Myself included

[brittle sinew]

I haven't played enough late wipe this wipe to know

[ancient marsh]

not craft

there isn't even one anymore

it's SOST that's buffed and craftable

but that's like 33 pen

still dogshit

[rich venture]

It's really not that bad

[brittle sinew]

All I have to say is that they shouldn't have shrunk the thorax hitbox

[ancient marsh]

to be fair some rounds are completely unviable

[brittle sinew]

It is when SPT exists, sadly

[ancient marsh]

absolutely should have, promotes random unskilled gameplay

[brittle sinew]

I mean enlarge

My bad g

[ancient marsh]

increase hitbox and revamp ammo and plate availability

[rich venture]

Yeah

[brittle sinew]

They shouldn't have made the armor plate hitboxes huge like they did recently

[ancient marsh]

by increase hitbox i mean keep plate size as is

[ancient marsh]

absolutely should have, promotes random chance based unskilled gameplay

[rich venture]

But that's like with every wipe

[ancient marsh]

no reason to play with good plates when the class 4 russian ceramic rig is the best armor in the game

[rich venture]

Hp ain't gonna be viable late wipe if you shoot ppl thorax

[ancient marsh]

no, there was diversity in calibers with old armor

cause you could CRAFT a lot of top tier ammo

you could craft SNB with fucking lvl 1 workbench

with 1 red gpowder

you could craft 995

m855a1 was available on trader

you oculd barter for BS and igolnik

igolnik was craftable*

[rich venture]

You can craft 55a1

[ancient marsh]

locked behind hard quest plus not even remotely good with class 6 plates being easily available

it's locked behind that quest where you have to go into the locked section of lexos

[brittle sinew]

Hard quest? Wasn't it just go into Kaban's office?

[ancient marsh]

the key is like 1-2 mil

and single use

have to get package and survive

• it's like

2 mags for 9 hrs

or something like that

[brittle sinew]

I'm gonna be real, I just donned a scav disguise and did it first try

[rich venture]

995 isn't that bad to find in raid

[ancient marsh]

120 rounds per 9 hrs

[rich venture]

like you can just find 100 rounds in a box

[ancient marsh]

CAN FIND, it's not reliable

[brittle sinew]

I low-key wish I could just buy such ammo

[ancient marsh]

there's no central location to go and farm it

[rich venture]

i didn't bother bc 56a1 isn't really as bad as ppl say quite honestly

[brittle sinew]

From traders of course, after quests

[brittle sinew]

I just did it because what else do I do in tarkov

[rich venture]

pvp?

[brittle sinew]

For what purpose

To what end

[rich venture]

you really don't need to bc 56a1 ain't all that bad

[rich venture]

fun

[ancient marsh]

it really is

you need to basically headshot only

[brittle sinew]

I like doing pvp when questing, but just pvp by itself is boring because I have nothing to lose at that point

[ancient marsh]

cause everyone has lvl6 paltes

that you can get 2 of per reset

and they cost like 100k each

super cheap super available

best plate in the game too

[brittle sinew]

Since when, wtf

BSG balance at work

[rich venture]

they don't balance it

[ancient marsh]

people say armor is too good

NOT BECAUSE OF HITBOXES

hitboxes are fine

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

[ancient marsh]

armor is too good because ammo is too bad

they fucking KILLED 9x21

that shit is useless

[rich venture]

but if we're gonna argue that now there's no more non skill based rng well now aiming is skill based bc you have to hit shots thorax or face lmao

[ancient marsh]

it wasn't even good before

it's REALLY fun now

the veresk

super low recoil

[brittle sinew]

Agree

[ancient marsh]

but now the ammo is awful

[rich venture]

just hit your shots ig

[ancient marsh]

there's no such thing as skill based rng

[rich venture]

now it's truly skill based

[ancient marsh]

random is in the name

[brittle sinew]

It all loops back to "skill issue"

[rich venture]

exactly

[brittle sinew]

Random, but being skilled definitely helps

[rich venture]

meant non skill based

[ancient marsh]

my response to everyone for the first plate system

[rich venture]

actually strawmanning

[brittle sinew]

Lmfao

[rich venture]

if you hit a guy in the face

[brittle sinew]

He's good at that

[rich venture]

like two or 3 times

with 56a1

is he alive question mark

[brittle sinew]

My bullets didn't register

[rich venture]

ignoring that tho

[rich venture]

i can tell

[ancient marsh]

it doesn't, if you're aiming at chest first, you're unskilled

[brittle sinew]

Yeah being skilled = Aim at head

Why did I need to explain that

[rich venture]

if you hit face shots

they die

[brittle sinew]

Random due to the recoil and all the fuckery of tarkov, fights for me feel like dice rolls with tactics

[rich venture]

arm shots and leg shots tend to kill people less

[ancient marsh]

recoil was greatly reduced

[brittle sinew]

Point still stands imo

[rich venture]

tbf if you know how to flick on ppl's heads

[brittle sinew]

Kid named KS23

[ancient marsh]

...how?

[rich venture]

just click heads :D

and ks23 doesn't matter

[ancient marsh]

you need to hit every single pellet into a single leg

to one shot with shrap 10

[brittle sinew]

Valid asf with guns like the STM

The head clicker gun

[rich venture]

exactly

[brittle sinew]

Which is very easy

[rich venture]

nine mill isn't bad

you're just bad

[brittle sinew]

It could be argued that nothing is "bad", it's all skill issues again

Except for certain outliers

Like the 9mm revolver

You are not winning anything with that bro

[ancient marsh]

uhuh

[brittle sinew]

It's a shotgun

[ancient marsh]

with the innate inacuraccy

accuracy*

[brittle sinew]

It is very easy

[ancient marsh]

which is why it's not easy

cause it has spread

[brittle sinew]

That's exactly what makes it easy to hit shots lol

Don't tell me you havent one tap legged people with ease with a KS23

[ancient marsh]

you now need to hit every pellet

[rich venture]

i mean ofc

[ancient marsh]

it's easy to hit A PELLET

[rich venture]

but at the end of the day it's all a skill issue

just git gud

[brittle sinew]

Big true

[brittle sinew]

If you're far away, probably

[rich venture]

just click heads

and win

[brittle sinew]

If you're <10m, probably not

Click heads with the KS23 🧠

[ancient marsh]

you just need to be closer

and if you miss, you're way more dead

just use magnum buck

it's more consistent

[brittle sinew]

Magnum cuck

All my homies use flechette

And piranha

0 brain required, shoot center mass

Setup has never been easier

[rich venture]

Realistically true

But also just use slugs

[brittle sinew]

Piranha is easier though

[ancient marsh]

unobtainium now

[brittle sinew]

You barely have to aim

[ancient marsh]

those retards locked the ammo needed to complete shotgun quests comfortably behind the last quest that needs you to use shotgun on players

literally 0 iq

[ancient marsh]

and way worse

[brittle sinew]

Still good enough

I did well with it while doing setup

It having just enough pen to go through class 2 and maybe 3 is awesome

[rich venture]

i used slugs just so i could sit up top on stronghold and fuack

[wintry ridge]

they should add the ks23 scope

[ancient marsh]

point of flechette and piranha isn't really to pen armor

it's to break it quickly

pen and damage are awful on it

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

[wintry ridge]

barricade sniper

[ancient marsh]

but on old armor system you can obliterate people with even a zabralo