💣tarkov-released

[soft coral]

[lyric cairn]

Hiiiii Ivan

[soft coral]

[rich venture]

PvE extract camping

[cinder parrot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/shTqkQ3cg9A?si=jQRPlOUU7XPEC-Xc

[hallow stream]

They can just yknow

Fund a separate team to redo most of the base games code

But then Nikita wouldnt be able to buy 1 new Mercedes per month

So its not really worth it

Theyd basically be rewriting the whole game

[lyric cairn]

The tech debt of Tarkov is astronomical, I'm sure.

[stark torrent]

This pretty much

The time for that , as i said , has passed

[lyric cairn]

Agreed. They should just finish the damn thing and move on. I mean, who the fuck asked for a factory rework?

[hallow stream]

Nikitas wallet and Nikita's addiction to buying a new mercedes once per week

[lyric cairn]

Okay but that doesn't even make any sense from a Nikita-is-a-greedy-moron perspective. How does spending time and resources on a factory rework add to Nikita's wallet? There's legit no reason, even for an evil profit motive.

For the record, Nikita is a greedy asshole. Just sayin'

So I'm not disagreeing with you on that.

God, Tarkov would be so much better off without him.

[hallow stream]

Factory small map
Small map easier to remake
Same amount of players that came for streets release will come back for a factory rework
Factory rework take no effort and it doesnt need to be good and it wont be good

Money kaching kaching

[ancient marsh]

"Same amount of players that came for streets release will come back for a factory rework"

what a fucking cope lmao

just say you hate Nikita, it's a valid take

you don't have to twist yourself into pretzels trynna say reworking factory will earn BSG money

[wintry ridge]

a rework is not saving factory

if the spawn layout is the same

its gonna be dogshit

[ancient marsh]

nobody gives a fuck about factory anyways

[wintry ridge]

also yeah

the 3 tasks you do on factory suck anyways

[ancient marsh]

saying "Same amount of players that came for streets release will come back for a factory rework" is mega crazy

100% factory rework is a money loss

guaranteed

[wintry ridge]

ehhh

money is tough to judge

[ancient marsh]

no absolutely, what changes brought players back?

like

watching lvndmark most watched videos

it's shit like streets

[wintry ridge]

only map i care about expansions for are customs, shoreline, and streets

[ancient marsh]

or lightkeeper

those are his most watched videos

[wintry ridge]

reserve expansion would be kinda sick tho ngl

[ancient marsh]

LK is his top4 viewed video

[wintry ridge]

add some new underground shit and an always open extract down there

d-2 but in some other corridor

[ancient marsh]

reserve to be a good map needs

1. good loot

2. good reliable extracts

[wintry ridge]

reserve is already pretty good

the extracts suck

[ancient marsh]

on reserve you are literally

[wintry ridge]

the spawns suck worse

[ancient marsh]

funneled

ALL

[wintry ridge]

the spawns are MISERABLE

[ancient marsh]

into 1 section of the map

you go towards the heli area

[ancient marsh]

i haven't played reserve at all in recent months

did they change spawns much

i remember they said "improved spawns"

[wintry ridge]

its the same as it ever was

[ancient marsh]

or whatever

this wipe

[wintry ridge]

walk 2 feet outta spawn and get sniped

worse than shoreline

[ancient marsh]

classic

[ancient marsh]

shoreline isn't even that bad

lh is the worst offender imo

biggest W of this wipe

make the quad nods cheaper

https://youtu.be/twzP0AZ8IKE?si=84MpBmCCS4gioNCv

[rich venture]

fr

[hallow stream]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-flower-power-gif-8575927

A little rogue spawns here

A little rogue spawns there

A little rogue spawns everywhere!

Reserve has so much loot

What they need to do is make the map not as cancer to get out of

[hallow stream]

Mfw theres like 20 enemies down at bunker cause its basically the only viable way to eacape

[stark torrent]

Kolpak

May god have mercy save him

[soft coral]

Bismillah he will learn how shit this game is

[hallow stream]

Bober kurwa

[hallow stream]

And then move onto spt instead cause spt better

[frozen olive]

Walking Tank

[ancient marsh]

no

[earnest timber]

Rebuild the game's code from scratch at an earlier time like the Rust devs did so further development of the game becomes faster and easier in the long run

did they do it?

of course not

now they're stuck on a fundamentally rotten codebase that's hard to implement new features into it

simple bugs are now too complicated to fix

changing something breaks something else

It's like putting glitters on a pile of horse shit

[wintry ridge]

reserve needs uhh

prenerf raider spawn rate

and loot pool too

aswell as another extract underground

maybe one under dome?

or like under uhh

hole in fence near mountains

thru some deep annoying to traverse flooded area

[frozen olive]

Reserve on release loot

SVDs, Pen 4/5 Class ammo

Rare hideout toys

[rich venture]

Very good very good remember to shoot people only in the thorax to get kills

[soft coral]

Yes

[ancient marsh]

something i have started doing recently is

running scopes with a mount that allows the delta point on top

because even 1x mode on scopes kills fps

the DP on top avoids that

[wintry ridge]

kosm did you see the update

spt

[frozen olive]

I saw 390 w Partial REF

Not sure if we got the full clothes

[wintry ridge]

[frozen olive]

Kinda dead until some stuff updates tho XD

[wintry ridge]

ref is prolly not clothing updated

i hope they let mod devs work on the update before release

maybe sain will be updated tomorrow

[frozen olive]

Yeah like

Question Bots, SAIn

and WTT

[ancient marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814594334606753822/1259118990970585108/WAKE_THE_FUCK_UP_COCKSUCKERS.mp4?ex=668a8570&is=668933f0&hm=e21cd639821dad00cb8e99f298162bf24ad56e708df59b245f8e6a2c1d44eedd&

Me when the game wipes

[ancient marsh]

ofc birdeye has m61 and double taps my chest when i got class 5

if you told me "kill goons 10 times and get them without BCP FMJ or we're killing ur family"

imma tell them goodbye bro

[lyric cairn]

I was once walking on the second floor of crackhouse and died because Birdeye shot me through a hole in the wall. I can't remember if I was playing live or SPT, though.

[uncut coral]

hope everyone just forgets about it

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[vivid dawn]

[lyric cairn]

[keen sparrow]

y'all ever seen the PM_Look_2 animation?

[wintry ridge]

what is it

[cinder parrot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GolXkq-Zp7Y?si=iBZ-qvNfCNRMGx8T

[soft coral]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XLTRtRRFzxU?si=KQqPQwyV1ZhWdbr9

oh man

what a good game

surely it doesn't have any bugs

[lucid junco]

good raid

[keen sparrow]

unused animation

player character points the PM at their own face for a sec, and then decides "nahh not today satan", and then takes it back to idle_pose

we couldn't believe our eyes so we imported the BSG hands cause we thought maybe it was an unused inspect animation, only to realise

the mfker's thumb is resting on the trigger

BSG's been hiding how to Escape From Tarkov this whole time

[stark torrent]

This would get the game banned in some countries like China tho

[keen sparrow]

I guess noone on Oddba has found it yet

[ancient marsh]

in china nobody kills themselves

TOPXI

[frozen olive]

It would be great if it got banned on China

[stark torrent]

[frozen olive]

I am sure the legit chinese player to cheater ratio is like

1 to 10

[compact knoll]

[stark torrent]

OOOOOOOOSKH

[ancient marsh]

500k

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721898296771215414/1259605976894668850/image.png?ex=668c4afb&is=668af97b&hm=c97ab3f2c97b0ae20449e8fae60143509c8e666a8eefad894ea77c5125fe8fd9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

i like this more

[stark torrent]

Standard Account tho

[ancient marsh]

the only one not to get scammed

first time i got to 50

circumcise myself for a mil and exp

[compact knoll]

i feel like the did it to shit on the default accounts

[ancient marsh]

?

[compact knoll]

because as a eod owner i will just give it up

i dont lose anything

[ancient marsh]

Oh “they did to shit”

I read it like 5 times lol

Uh

Idk

It’s called “The choice”

There’s no choice if eod

[compact knoll]

exactly

[ancient marsh]

Idk if they thought about eod users doing it for free

I am now terrified of accidentally handing epsilon in lmao

[ancient marsh]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kz8mE22NFiw?si=WVLOjHS8JLuhg6FC

@stark torrent

[stark torrent]

[winged mica]

I wonder if the reward is worth

[pseudo storm]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/The_Choice

[frosty basalt]

lol

[uncut coral]

just buy unheard bro

[wintry ridge]

@frozen olive do you think there is a dr house trader mod for spt

therapist but only acceptss morphine and obdoblos

sells you good shit tho for it

[lyric cairn]

That's a pretty cool trader idea

[wintry ridge]

no its not

someone already did that but like

accepts all stims

which sucks because the better barters are locked behind like 20 mule stims which is just CBT to get

morphines are just gp coins tbh

[frozen olive]

Ew

Yeah

Morphined are GP without unerfed rates

[wintry ridge]

and also unstackable

and uhmmm

usable outside of trading

basically just GP but good, costs the same too, prenerf

[frozen olive]

What is funny is that there is better Morphines in a sense

and w better meds a lot more

[wintry ridge]

[frozen olive]

[wintry ridge]

play the update yet?

[frozen olive]

I am not

still on Dawntrail

[wintry ridge]

ff14?

[frozen olive]

Yeah

[wintry ridge]

neato

[frozen olive]

if I touch SPT

it's a full mod-list rebuild

[wintry ridge]

all you need really are the AI mods and maybe realism if its not been updated with more unremovable "realistic" features that just make hte game miserable

[frozen olive]

Yeah I kinda gave up on Realism lol

The guy doesn't seem to know what he's doing

[wintry ridge]

it sucks because old versions were genuinely pretty good

alot of modularity with settings

now it feels like turning off one feature breaks the whole mod's balance and some you cant turn off at all

[frozen olive]

ahlf the mods need compatibilities and patches

hard pass

[wintry ridge]

which they get

but then you get people like uhh

here let me find it

not my screenshot but like

is making a realism patch for a mod that is just a port of another person's mod "acting like a rapist"

stupid modder drama, literally unavoidable in every single game with mods

[strong hinge]

💀

[wintry ridge]

the worst part is the mods they port ALREADY WORK WITH REALISM

they just change the incompatibility line and add realism to it in the mod's package file

[native crypt]

whats this guys problem with not letting people make compatibility patches

[wintry ridge]

prolly been asked too many times if they themselves could make a compatability patch but like

just tell other people they can make them? dont be a dickhead about it

[vivid dawn]

Realism isnt even that good

Its balance isnt even realistic

So how can it be realistic

[frozen olive]

Its... unreal

[cinder parrot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_qg4VBq65Y4?si=lf3rLLpWqgIYbJjl

[vivid dawn]

Unrealistic mod

[frozen olive]

Unreal Unheard Edition

250

[vivid dawn]

Unreal unheard blaze it 420 Edition

You get a spin and aimbot with it

Also a life long supply of gamer girl bathwater

(Its Nikitas bathwater)

[wintry ridge]

repost and mid

[cinder parrot]

what

[vivid dawn]

♻️

[frozen olive]

This guy only posts clips lol

[vivid dawn]

WonderClipzz

[cinder parrot]

yeah get used to it. LOL

been doing it for eons

[stark torrent]

damn i never knew these can drop

[vivid dawn]

March 2023

A year isnt eons

[native crypt]

yooooooooo gornasty rail

[cinder parrot]

eons

[lethal cape]

damn that's a lot of zvezda

😎

[rich venture]

Me neither I didn't know that vpo rails could drop

[rich venture]

Nut cultist strikes again

[wintry ridge]

scav's junk box exploded

[stark torrent]

It was Unheard before

[ancient marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721898296771215414/1259930296514777129/image.png?ex=668d7907&is=668c2787&hm=f82446ee88cf1444fda35c75ac1b310825b282d12fc91b103525719863409fc8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

this is so sad

[stark torrent]

he has 35 now

[ancient marsh]

no, i exploded all over the hideout

👅

[wintry ridge]

[stark torrent]

but yeah idk i tried watching him but he is very....boring

fuell

[wintry ridge]

yeah its uhh

idk he videos are okay

he just talks too much

he needs a better editor for stuff

its alot of nonsense talk in his videos where he like, tutorials stuff

[ancient marsh]

just say you like COD bro

if you need to move around to have fun in tarkov

you just like cod with extra steps

[stark torrent]

i mean i do move but i also know when to sit for 25 minutes

because i know i will get a kill

Tarkov is a kind of game

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent you do know that was an actual tweet

he said like if you need good ammo to play eft you want cod with extra steps

also

one sec

LEGENDARY FUEL TWEET

i gotta find it

[stark torrent]

i remember it man, it was about BP

or well around the time BP got removed and ppl complained bla bla

one of the many shit takes he had

[ancient marsh]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOG05bHVqZ3c5b2pwbWZpZjZjNnIyNTEyOHFsanJ3a2N4Nms3ZzdreiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/oZbN89y1HOez7LQnLR/giphy.gif

THERE WE GO

THIS IS FUCKING UNHINGED

CHEATER = RAPIST

[stark torrent]

@ancient marsh he is pulling his spreadsheet

oh brother

[wintry ridge]

cheaters are scumbags tho tbh

[ancient marsh]

i wouldn't say they rape women tho

[wintry ridge]

yeah they just rape the game

[reef salmon]

They rape you virtually

[wintry ridge]

make it unplayable and unenjoyable for anyone who aint cheating

[frozen olive]

To be fair, to cheat in a pvp game you have to be lacking a lot of morals

[ancient marsh]

yeah idk if any reaches the level of rapist

i dont think you can convince me of that

[frozen olive]

Dr Disrespect is a Proffesional Cheater

Argument won

[stark torrent]

[ancient marsh]

NO

he's a part time cheater

an amateur if you will

[frozen olive]

right, he loves playing smash bro's

[keen sparrow]

so uhhhh.

SPT has a mod that fixes that

[ancient marsh]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShinyEagerClintTheTarFu-VFKN4Rb4zdTUdv2J

@stark torrent @stark torrent @stark torrent @stark torrent

[stark torrent]

he was recording

he is doing it

[ancient marsh]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrackyMoldySpindleCoolStoryBro-c_nxc4n80exYlmtM

NAAAH

@stark torrent

THIS CANT BE REAL

this stream is great

i was trying to clip this

[stark torrent]

lmao

[ancient marsh]

i heard "countersniping" on the main twitch window

i was fucking cracking up bro

[ancient marsh]

while everyone was asking for cultists robes, AWM was asking for the Zryachiy outfit

knowers know

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent https://clips.twitch.tv/ToughJollyNarwhalSuperVinlin-3vyhBqPLT9V7jrpC look at the rave emote, it's too on beat

he got 2 jerries too

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent https://clips.twitch.tv/SeductiveFaintFlamingoPastaThat-zYJKx1SUDmGfICUB

today's stream is fucking insane

look at chat

and this clip too

[wintry ridge]

i dont get it

[ancient marsh]

he doesn't know the airwingmarine memes

[wintry ridge]

i dont watch tarkov no more

[ancient marsh]

too long to explain brotherman

just this guy LOVES to lie on top of the lighthouse tower with an AXMC

with his buddy calling out the fucking range and how many mildots the round will drop

he really thinks he's Chris Kyle

[ancient marsh]

@stark torrent https://clips.twitch.tv/PhilanthropicArborealBadgerTheTarFu-KqRc4KbAAT3MLY6U

TODAY'S STREAM IS A FUCKING CLIPFARM

[stark torrent]

state of this shit map , it runs rly bad

idk

[ancient marsh]

what the fuck is your setup

how did you get your FPS this high?

[dapper grotto]

double render scope on streets moment

[cinder parrot]

you sound like you dont get out the house much

[hallow stream]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[potent fossil]

Is wipe this month or august?

[livid bluff]

August

[ancient marsh]

The stream started at like 8pm, the fuck am I gonna do, dumbass?

[stark torrent]

Early aug

[wintry ridge]

aug a1

[cinder parrot]

haha bro has his life clocked around a streamer

fuckin sad

[ancient marsh]

?

i'm not falling for this bait actually

[cinder parrot]

?

[ancient marsh]

have a wonderful day

:^)

[cinder parrot]

🙂

its only bait if its not true

[frozen olive]

Xal as much as we are wanka at each other ignore the clip tryhard wannabe

[ancient marsh]

as i said, not falling for bait

[wintry ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1100161585831477398/1259557588866039918/ssstik.io_1718201689270-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[frozen olive]

I love that cat

There is an actual wipe scheduled btw?

[brittle sinew]

When is that mf wipe

[ancient marsh]

august early

nikita said so

so it's probably december

[frozen olive]

New 1.0 update

We are done fck you

[wintry ridge]

silly critter

[earnest timber]

Wipe drops when Juncker releases Tarkov Wipe 6

he's the only Tarkov youtuber that matters

[wintry ridge]

what about you

animations guy

[earnest timber]

When its done

(hopefully by august)

[hallow stream]

See you in early December then

[ancient marsh]

just in time for winter season map

[frozen olive]

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/2108-ref-spt-friendly-quests/

Converted all the Arena specific quests for Ref into SPT quests. Rewards the same things as Live, with an added Lega Medal to each quest. Includes the sword unlock.

@wintry ridge

SPT Stays King

[wintry ridge]

does this mean ref just offers dailies

but with arena rewards

i wish more spt mods would add a screenshot of what it does

[frozen olive]

Me too

[wintry ridge]

[cinder parrot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OiPmFBxolAA?si=qgb7N16RMXBON4EN

fire emoji bois

[ancient marsh]

https://youtube.com/shorts/40yVU3nYat8?si=hZAOaBpcHZREAaFr

[burnt portal]

@hushed elk Apologies for the ping, but I wasn't sure if you were interested in the video lol

https://youtu.be/G35BneW0_XY?feature=shared

[hushed elk]

[stark torrent]

[dapper grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/telepurte-pingu-noot-noot-gif-25837050

https://x.com/nikgeneburn/status/1810659554725593270

Nikita Buyanov (@nikgeneburn) on X

🔥

Twitter · Jul 9, 2024, 12:57 PM

[next temple]

goodbye FPS

[dapper grotto]

ladies and gentleman we might see molotovs and other fire fuckery grace the spaghetti code

[frozen olive]

This is like

The real shotguns killed yhe servers

Kinda shit

[ancient marsh]

https://vxtwitter.com/nikgeneburn/status/1810659554725593270

dont mind me

hm

i wonder

would this be used in arena

to prevent camping?

maybe some sort of new battle royale esque event

[wintry ridge]

knowing tarkov fire, this thing is gonna be an instant kill or make you unable to play the rest of the round

[ancient marsh]

the guy is running around on fire, i assume there's gonna be some status effect

not an instant death

[wintry ridge]

both legs and arms blacked, status effect,

pop a green stim andddd maybe you'll recover

[frozen olive]

It's going to be like the gas station fire

[wintry ridge]

[teal shuttle]

did you record this on a nokia N17?

[ancient marsh]

me?

[teal shuttle]

its so old and compressed

[ancient marsh]

okay how is that my fault

[teal shuttle]

you posted it 😛

[ancient marsh]

I DIDN'T UPLOAD IT

IT'S A LINK

NOT A POST

[teal shuttle]

😐

[ancient marsh]

it's not my post bro

just read a lil bit

[vivid dawn]

made my day

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2u-kRdAKF8&ab_channel=VeryBadSCAV

[stark torrent]

fallout 4 console commands

look at door and write open

[abstract forge]

250 eu expansion 😂

[vivid dawn]

Say friend and i will open

[winged mica]

WHOOOOOOO

[real solstice]

joe rogan

[hallow stream]

ai generated joe rogan

[winged mica]

The

[ancient marsh]

i have a big funny

one secon

d

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShinyEagerClintTheTarFu-VFKN4Rb4zdTUdv2J

this clip

specifically the ending

[rich venture]

kiddie diddler armour

[winged mica]

[ancient marsh]

Spt, wedonotcare

Also blocking reload spot with items

Classic

[winged mica]

what does that mean

even in SPT I still have skill issue

[ancient marsh]

2x1 slot in rig is filled with items, you will drop a mag on reload

[winged mica]

let see how normal PvE looks like

[ancient marsh]

Did you buy pve?

[winged mica]

I bought Unheard yes

too much money to throw around

man no ref

wait this looks familiar

[stark torrent]

@soft coral

Cuppy has failed us

[winged mica]

I FAILED NO ONE

[stark torrent]

But yourself

[winged mica]

money well spent

[hushed elk]

shame

[ancient marsh]

To play spt

This has to be an Illness

[frozen olive]

Give him unfit to help

He will be unheard

[ancient marsh]

The devs did their job so poorly you edited players out from the game

And you gave em 250

[soft coral]

well kys

[spice mango]

SPT UPDATED AND NOW MY MODS ARE GONE WAAAAAAAA

[winged mica]

atleast you get Ref

[winged mica]

small price to pay

for PvE

[lyric cairn]

I don't updatye SPT until all my mods are updated

I can't live without them

[wintry ridge]

buy unheard
play only spt

cuppy you're a dummy

[brittle sinew]

$250 right out the window

What is wrong with you bro

[wintry ridge]

i got eod because im a sucker but like

unheard is bait

not worth it

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-suckin-it-finger-troll-cat-gif-21799760

[wintry ridge]

me

[earnest timber]

Russian devs try not to manage their unique games like absolute morons challenge impossible

[wintry ridge]

unique game that is cornerstone of the market? naahhhh lets fuck everyone over and ruin it

[earnest timber]

Tarkov, War Thunder, Enlisted

[wintry ridge]

eft wasnt the first extraction shooter but it was the most notable and well built

"well built" compared to like, being a mode in another game (division dark zone)

[wintry ridge]

enlisted is so sad

because it looks like a really fun concept

warthunder except there's also infantry involved

and its basically stuck in simulator mode

ALSO stalcraft

thats another one

cool concept, mtx hell

all of these end up being MTX hell

russian games are as bad as chinese gacha games for microtransactions

[earnest timber]

Free to play games having insane amount of mtx?

Noooooo...

Anyway pay 70$ for a single plane, please

[wintry ridge]

warthunder's case sucks because the game isnt even that bad

they could've def made a ton of cash just off having premium

and gold eagle stuff

no need to sell packs for IRL dollars straight up

[earnest timber]

You NEED to have premium to even progress at a tolerable pace

Russian games are sooo grindy

[wintry ridge]

they have to add some kinda xp booster for finishing a tree in some faction

or a faction as a whole

if I grind out light tanks to the max rank they should give me like a x1.5 boost on all other tanks in that country

straight up

[earnest timber]

Premium accounts in Tarkov

[ancient marsh]

oh god

[stark torrent]

5 hours for some minor and useless changes overall

i love tarkov

[rich venture]

Bsg r doing every live tarbob player a solid and shutting down the game for 5 hours

[wintry ridge]

@stark torrent yo wait iedy

did you not see the hideout thingy?

wishlist all needed hideout items and with the new wishlist thing i think they also get marked in raid too

actual QOL???

bsg didn't fumble for once???

[frozen olive]

Is this just

Justmorecheckmarks

[wintry ridge]

but worse imo

since it doesnt tell you how muchb you need

[frosty basalt]

maybe theyre implementing more changes than they let on

[stark torrent]

i think they are slowly copying SPT mods

[frosty basalt]

good! :)

finally

[stark torrent]

since this is what people bitched about since unheard

How SPT developed a better game lol

[frosty basalt]

is it copium to think eft will get better over time

[stark torrent]

In some areas it will

It the areas that it has to , like audio / performance / AI

probably not

desync....

[frosty basalt]

i honestly hope ABI pivots and goes pay 2 play

with mtx of just cosmetics

i wanna play it (i think)

[stark torrent]

it wont , it was already marketed as f2p

[frosty basalt]

i reallllllllllllllly hope they pivot tho :(

[stark torrent]

they wont , it would be market suicide

ppl will get mega angry

honestly let it be , f2p or not

dont rly care

it will be cheaper than tarkov is rn

[frosty basalt]

it doesnt hold a candle to tarkov imo

[stark torrent]

even with the subscription

[frosty basalt]

theyre not the same game in my eyes

[stark torrent]

i mean makes sense, however , if tarkov doesnt get its shit together , it is what it is

[frosty basalt]

i will treat it as an entirely different experience

[stark torrent]

ABI has a lot of things done right , while Tarkov doesnt in 8 years

[frosty basalt]

so true

[stark torrent]

Desync / performance / audio

AI i guess it's shit in both games i agree

• i agree Tarkov has great atmosphere

very good maps etc

but at what cost

[frosty basalt]

we need stalker gamma AI

doesnt track u thru fucking walls

:)

spt still does that

[stark torrent]

Streets is an insanely well designed map , but in the end , nobody will care if it's 25 fps on a good rig

[frosty basalt]

v frustrating

[ancient marsh]

bsg ACTIVELY listening

shit crazy

[stark torrent]

yeah the button thing is worth waiting 5 hours

[ancient marsh]

well there's a bunch of cuck mode fixes

which is surprising, fixing it pretty quickly

5 hours is kinda long though

but still

W after W after W after W

you guys HAVE TO admit

we've been basically getting ONLY GOOD UPDATES for like a couple months now

[rich venture]

It's not rlly fair to compare them like that since ABI is backed by a billion dollar company unlike tarbob which means they have more access to Devs and such

But tarkov still has problems to fix which just shouldn't be problematic to fix realistically

Fighting against their own code and such

[rich venture]

As soon as tarkov gained competition they suddenly started listening

[ancient marsh]

yep, no matter how much nikita coped on twitter

remember, he said "oh we were releasing these updates so quickly, but ur gonna say it's because of ABI, like we haven't been working for weeks"

that was before the update that buffed loot, reduced inertia, increased carry weight limit, added keycards to marked rooms

[rich venture]

I don't think he's the greatest fan of ABI for some reason

[ancient marsh]

you could legit probably program a knob on a server rack that corresponds to all those things

there's not weeks of programming in that update

[rich venture]

tbf bsg focuses on more content every time

instead of actually polishing what they have already

they were probably working just not on the right things

[ancient marsh]

@rich venture

this was the update nikita suid took weeks of time

literally all of these things are like a value change in the code

it's an increase or adding stuff upon an existing framework

like pbp to prapor

[rich venture]

probably bc they were working on content more than giving players what they wanted

update took weeks bc they couldn't be asked to do it

[ancient marsh]

no it didnt' take weeks

it took like a couple days

after ABI started popping off

[rich venture]

whatever makes u sleep at night

i'm saying that they were working for weeks on content

that absolutely nobody asked for

[ancient marsh]

?

he was saying after this update that it took weeks

[rich venture]

dw anymore

regardation hits everyone

Suggestion of the year

[ancient marsh]

I mean, why?

I’d say add being able to change the color of the borders

[brittle sinew]

This is a thing I hate about tark

For a supposed beta, they rarely test or try switching values on things

Noooo it has to take till next wipe

[rich venture]

content and good optimisations always at the start of wipe

then 6 months of nothing

[ancient marsh]

they tested for recoil before this wipe on ETS

[rich venture]

although this wipe we have had a better influx of improvements

[ancient marsh]

they tested no fir this wipe

[rich venture]

ain't nobody allowed to show what's on the ets tho

what's the point for the greater playerbase

[ancient marsh]

everyone posted shit anyways

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177582714380095488/1180177743619575848/Moments-clip-from-Dec-01-2023.mp4?ex=668f59ec&is=668e086c&hm=da6e9b9f2e4c36fec9d3e38f809ddddad2dfc62351c22ead2d2344351520e8fa&

[rich venture]

saw like 2 posts lmao

[ancient marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177582788761899018/1179516758982402088/MK47.mp4?ex=668f9555&is=668e43d5&hm=469cc02f96f9c1c16e72d43105aa7046fb99d87d924d6521cafcf303303d78c0&

[rich venture]

one from artyom and the other on twitter

[brittle sinew]

Exactly what I'm talking about

6 months of literally nothing except minor tweaking

They should do bi-weekly testing, or at least monthly

[rich venture]

bi weekly is a bit much

monthly is good i think

[brittle sinew]

See what people like. If they don't like it? Just revert

[rich venture]

especially bc there are some ppl who don't really care about testing and just wanna play the game

[ancient marsh]

they did massive changes this wipe mid wipe, what?

armor update

keycards in marked

no fir

no fog

??

[brittle sinew]

Yeah, one

[rich venture]

it works in their favour aswell as it doesn't bunch up all the hate to wipe day

[ancient marsh]

on?

[brittle sinew]

A single update

[ancient marsh]

one?

i named several

all separate updates

[rich venture]

didn't u say that those updates were minor changes in code?

[ancient marsh]

we can just make shit up if you want to shit on bsg

[ancient marsh]

and? they had a massive impact on the gameplay, do you disagree?

[rich venture]

no fog and keycards in marked did not have a massive impact on the gameplay

[brittle sinew]

They should do more of it, is what I'm saying

[rich venture]

and armour realistically the only bullets u tank are 556 and 9 mil :D

[ancient marsh]

they absolutely did, marked rooms are fought for regularly now, no fog i literally sniped a guy 350m away first raid

[ancient marsh]

okay i guess you just don't play the game

all good

[rich venture]

you could do that with fog lmao

[brittle sinew]

Maybe then, player numbers wouldn't drop off a cliff, 2 months after wipe

[rich venture]

just get good

[rich venture]

alr G

[ancient marsh]

they did more than nothing this wipe, you can say they could do more. just don't say we got 6 months on nothing

[brittle sinew]

Nothing significant tbh

Else I would've returned

Game is still shit, where is Ivan when I actually need him

[ancient marsh]

no found in raid that everyone was asking for

pvp actually is rewarding finally

[rich venture]

they were good changes but they could test more pivotal things

[ancient marsh]

armor system update

[brittle sinew]

Exactly brother

[rich venture]

only reward there should be is the fun in pvp

[ancient marsh]

who gives a fuck about fun if you win 10 fights and you earn like 300k

[rich venture]

no fir allowed ppl to find pvp more enjoyable

[ancient marsh]

fun can't gear you up for next raid

[rich venture]

i give a lot about fun lmao

[ancient marsh]

to have more fun

[ancient marsh]

what? how?

[brittle sinew]

I like how they did pvp in dark and darker, there's rarely incentive to do so

[rich venture]

bc ppl would push pvp more lmao?

[ancient marsh]

how is no fir a negative for pvp? this makes literally no sense

[ancient marsh]

WITH FOUND IN RAID IN THE GAME?

[rich venture]

[brittle sinew]

It will keep one playing the game tho

[rich venture]

READ

[ancient marsh]

why would i fight a guy if when i win i couldn't even sell his ulach

[rich venture]

NO

FIR

[ancient marsh]

oh

well we agree then

[rich venture]

no fir was a good change

[ancient marsh]

"only reward in pvp is fun"
well, earning roubles from gear is fun

kind of a meaningless statement imo

[rich venture]

but it wasn't really pivotal for me bc i would be pvping anyway

[ancient marsh]

agreed

i actually don't have to instantly leave the raid cause i got a GPU

well, gpu is a bad example

a ledx lets say

[brittle sinew]

It's a good change when there isn't much else to do late wipe

[ancient marsh]

you would, a lot of people weren't

[rich venture]

caring about money is when the game is at it's worst imo

[brittle sinew]

Big true

[rich venture]

I live for pvp not making roubles

[ancient marsh]

so early wipe?

late wipe is when the game is at its worst with everyone having infinite moeny

[rich venture]

early wipe idrc about cash

[brittle sinew]

Early wipe is exactly when idgaf about money

[rich venture]

fr

[brittle sinew]

Hop on with the SKS and have fun

Everyone is playing, having a good time

[rich venture]

no greasy mf to fly around the corner and one tap you with his sig spear

[ancient marsh]

die 3 times now you're naked, good tiems

[rich venture]

just sks gamers

[rich venture]

scav exists

[brittle sinew]

2 months later, player numbers low af

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

Your gear means something

[ancient marsh]

scav is so fucking boring

[brittle sinew]

That's the point

[rich venture]

died 15 times on the first day of wipe and I was having fun

[ancient marsh]

i played like 70 raids of scav at start of wipe

dropped it completely

[rich venture]

was naked but it is what it is

[brittle sinew]

Same, even while getting blasted I still had fun

[rich venture]

any gun is viable early wipe

[brittle sinew]

Because early wipe fights are fun

[ancient marsh]

which is why you go get money and conserve limited gear

[brittle sinew]

Anything is viable and ttk isn't 1 second

[rich venture]

no need to care if you have the best in slot meta mutant

[ancient marsh]

also im on standard account so i guess we fundamentally play early wipe diff

[rich venture]

game feels alive

[ancient marsh]

i don't have the gamma crutch

or max stash space

[brittle sinew]

Because it is

[ancient marsh]

or grizzlies at start

[rich venture]

i played standard on my first wipe i still didn't care about gear lmao

[brittle sinew]

Player numbers high af when the game wipes

[rich venture]

for good reason

bc it's when everyone's on the same playing field

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

[rich venture]

Flea restrictions kinda killed late game for casual players

[brittle sinew]

Leveled playing field, good ttk, decent balance and no flea

[rich venture]

Yeah exactly

They should test a flea lock at some point

Like just living off of shit

[brittle sinew]

Yeah exactly, they should test shit like that

Not value changes or spawn tweaks

[ancient marsh]

pick one

[rich venture]

?

[brittle sinew]

Yeah what?

[ancient marsh]

you either say flea locks hurt casual players
or talk about locking flea down

[rich venture]

Am I not allowed to say that casual players are outclassed bc of flea?

[ancient marsh]

you can, but to my understanding you said "lock down flea completely" in the next statement

[rich venture]

Level 40 players have access to good ammo whilst Timmies have to rely on finding shit in raid of having shit ammo entirely

It's just a fact

[ancient marsh]

even in its limited state as it is right now, flea equalizes the game a little bit for casuals

[brittle sinew]

It's unequal when it only goes for timmies

Like now

[ancient marsh]

762x39 PP is still on flea, close to trader price

[rich venture]

Key word: "test"

[ancient marsh]

one shots most helmets

[rich venture]

56a1 isn't, M62 isn't, m80 isn't

[brittle sinew]

Having all on flea lock is equal

[ancient marsh]

all casual players would be hurt by flea locks though

[brittle sinew]

Except trader levels ofc, but those have to be grinded for

[rich venture]

Great ammo for the best guns in the game are locked

[ancient marsh]

if a sweatlord who doesn't log off is playing in flea locks

he's just farming rogues

gonna be the exact same split

just less fun

[brittle sinew]

Timmy can also be taught to farm rogues, what's your point?

[rich venture]

Click on lh

[ancient marsh]

i said casual players, not timmies

[rich venture]

And then shoot rogue

[brittle sinew]

Casual players can too

Again, what's your point?

[ancient marsh]

difference is in AVAILABLE PLAY TIME

[rich venture]

Flea lock would be a cool thing to test

[ancient marsh]

at level 15 you can buy good ammo already, just more expensive

[rich venture]

Bc you'd have to prioritize all sorts of loot

[brittle sinew]

You should be able to amass a good amount of kit in an hour as a casual player

[ancient marsh]

if you can't equalize yourself like that, the sweatlord is just gonna speedrun the game and buy class 6 plates through ragman

[rich venture]

Pp is the only good ammo you can buy no?

[ancient marsh]

we have different definitions of casual players then

[ancient marsh]

on flea?

there's also 762x54r PS ammo

LPS

t46

all one shot most helmets

[brittle sinew]

Pre flea SVD slaps

[rich venture]

Tru

[brittle sinew]

I bought one from fence early this wipe, put a PSO on it and went to town

[pseudo storm]

Even LPS is good

Slaps through Lvl 4 armor

[ancient marsh]

there's also spear FMJ ammo

CBJ .300 blk

[rich venture]

Everything is good early wipe

[ancient marsh]

FMJ SX

762x39 PS is okay at best

[brittle sinew]

Anyway, a flea lock test wouldn't work now that everyone has gear already

[ancient marsh]

do it on ETS

[brittle sinew]

It wouldn't change much, except those who have more gear stashed will win

[rich venture]

Since we're talking abt time what makes you think that casual players would have the time to grind for the money to buy said ammos

[ancient marsh]

because you "grind" money by just playing the game

you don't have to GRIND money to get rich

[brittle sinew]

... Or the beta game we're playing

[ancient marsh]

no, test servers exist already to test things

use those

[brittle sinew]

The beta for the beta

[ancient marsh]

• iirc (maybe it got changed)

[brittle sinew]

Fucking bsg

[ancient marsh]

cuck edition players get ETS access

[ancient marsh]

test for test

[brittle sinew]

At this point they should just own up to it not being a beta

[rich venture]

You die 3 times and you're naked tho

Where's the money gone now

[ancient marsh]

i don't mean new to the game by casual

[winged mica]

Since SPT doesnt have Arena i wonder how Ref works

[brittle sinew]

Where's the money Lebowski

[ancient marsh]

i said it like 3 times

[winged mica]

If anyone tried jt

[brittle sinew]

GP coins for gear, no?

[ancient marsh]

weren;t you posting screenshots

[winged mica]

PvE doesnt have Ref

[ancient marsh]

gp coins you get from ref

you find like 1-2 per stack on live

[brittle sinew]

You can't just buy go coins?

[ancient marsh]

they are pretty rare

[winged mica]

So 100 Dollars not well spent

[ancient marsh]

not on live

[brittle sinew]

Financially irresponsible

[winged mica]

Why did I buy Unheard edition to think PvE would have Ref

[ancient marsh]

why did you buy unheard to fucking play SPT

you dislike BSG so much you play their unofficial PVE competitor that's against TOS

[winged mica]

Because I want to support BSG

-said by a retard-

[brittle sinew]

The most financially irresponsible person in this chat, and that's coming from me

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-spin-hat-one-brain-cell-gif-2745719316163357325

[brittle sinew]

Why would you ever want to support BSG

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/earn-gp-earn-coin-earn-cp-tarkov-bear-gif-13050543303857389943

[winged mica]

Im just fuckin w ya guys

[ancient marsh]

[winged mica]

PvE is available for EOD

[brittle sinew]

They squander their money by making shit like arena

[winged mica]

And I am happened to be EOD

[ancient marsh]

liar

[winged mica]

I think like all EOD owners get PvE

[brittle sinew]

They squander their literal golden goose of a game

[rich venture]

If only he knew that ppl played spt bc it had better qol

[winged mica]

It surprised me too

When you load into PvE it shows Unheard logo

[ancient marsh]

than PVE? yeah ofc

[winged mica]

One thing I hate is that the entire PvE menu is filled with Blue color filter

[ancient marsh]

my point is that @winged mica was playing SPT way before PVE came out

and still handed over 100$

[winged mica]

This isnt Bethesda is it?

[rich venture]

SPT still had better qol than live

[winged mica]

I did not hand over 100

I am still EOD

[ancient marsh]

@winged mica go to settings and show your setting to show player status right now

[winged mica]

I have been EOD since 2019 god sake

Foke me

Hold on

[brittle sinew]

Same

[ancient marsh]

idk what argument you're trying to make but ok

[rich venture]

And why do u care quite frankly

[winged mica]

Lemme navigate through Fursuit picture to access BSG account

[rich venture]

Ain't Ur money

[ancient marsh]

can't stop you from making shit purchases, can criticize you for em though

[rich venture]

Ppl don't only play spt bc they hate bsg

[ancient marsh]

well you can make an argument that they do, because you like tarkov but don't like changes BSG does to it

[brittle sinew]

I play SPT for the mods tbh

[winged mica]

I cant find my profile status

[brittle sinew]

Could give a rats ass about it being singleplayer or whatever

[winged mica]

Maybe

I am Unheard?

[ancient marsh]

how many times i've heard "i play SPT because of how many hackers there are"

[winged mica]

https://tenor.com/view/hands-funny-looking-wondering-what-gif-13643049

[rich venture]

Mod support at 1.0

[ancient marsh]

if ur unheard you should be able to change to standard

if u upgraded from eod

you should be able to switch from unheard to eod to standard

[brittle sinew]

I mean it is nice to go into a match and actually find high tier loot consistently

Instead of opening a locked room to find nothing

[rich venture]

Guys I'm also unheard 😭

Had the funny cultist logo when going onto PvE

[brittle sinew]

All the posts on the SPT sub like "Is there supposed to be this much loot" when it's just how the game looks without vacuums

[rich venture]

I have spt for the freecam to record cinematics

[rich venture]

Who added mountain bikes into pubg

[ancient marsh]

ok

[winged mica]

Lets go

[rich venture]

[xalrider liked that]

[winged mica]

He did not

[rich venture]

Oh :3

[ancient marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-havent-we-killed-this-mf-kill-this-mf-kill-this-guy-ban-this-guy-mf-die-gif-18236210805183010444

[winged mica]

@ancient marsh bro

Snap out of it

[winged mica]

I cant buy Arena I am an EOD owner

I already bought Arena before

Smh

Man made everything looking serious

[winged mica]

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-visor-up-gif-8746882116512017431

[ancient marsh]

Ohmygod

[wintry ridge]

wish there was an m203 sight mod or something for spt

atleast like a crosshair cmon

classic 😌

[rich venture]

Is the update done question mark

[ancient marsh]

2 more hrs

i think

or 1

[compact knoll]

Fuckers want cross hairs now

They want to make tarkov like cod

Instead add the m203 sight you put on the side rail

[wintry ridge]

no bitch i want a laser pointer that looks like the crosshair

or better yet

an actual m203 ironsight

to mount on the top/side of the rail

[cinder parrot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ynSSx-rQjTE?si=oPJffKyZuAdbFIrK

[ancient marsh]

he's taunting me

[frozen olive]

[keen sparrow]

there used to be. was like.. 3.7.6

[wintry ridge]

😭

so many neat mods get lost to time

[keen sparrow]

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/1207-grenade-trajectory-prediction-line/

[wintry ridge]

i used that a bunch, real fun

it feels almost cheaty tho tbf

[keen sparrow]

damn, bro added a mod_slot to launchers, that's big-dick

[keen sparrow]

let's be real though, your first shot with every GL is a ranging shot.

[wintry ridge]

yeah

even the gp25

its irons are fixed at like 100m

so close range shots are fucked

[keen sparrow]

if i could figure out the GL weapon container, or we could get a GL example in the SDK, you know i'm adding the micro t1 to the gp30 like "the Guardian" has in gamma

and giving the scar its own