💣tarkov-released

[brittle sinew]

Doesn't matter, both use fiber optic

[winged mica]

Huh

Interesting then

[winged mica]

The one I used in training doesnt do that

Even the MDO doesnt

[wind heron]

new ambi fire selector operated by the thumb, new flash hider, new stock new rear sights

I wish we had gotten this instead of the early model

[winged mica]

I mean

[winged mica]

When Tarkov added AK12 they added the one that military uses irl at the time

[wind heron]

yeah, which is the current one

it's not like they added it ages ago

the one they added is several years old

just so I'm not placebo-ing I'm gonna test the vityaz with the vanilla fire rate

[spring fable]

man this looks ugly

[winged mica]

I dont like that drum mag

Is there an enclosed one

[winged mica]

Is this the PPK20

[wind heron]

the PPK-20 and the Vityaz are the same gun

and no it's the Vityaz

[winged mica]

Yeh but different modification in military makes them 2 different weapons

[wind heron]

ok to be more specific

the guts are the same

the new selector also does not change how it works with the trigger group

it just adds 2 levers outside and a cam to shut the dust cover when on safe

[winged mica]

I mean is this the PPK20 or the 01 Vityaz

Is literally my question

[autumn estuary]

Isn't that the prototype?

[wind heron]

this is the current service model

[autumn estuary]

Because the prototype AK-12 (or the AK-200) is the one with all the fancy features

[wind heron]

this doesn't have those

[autumn estuary]

that they went "nah, too new"

[wind heron]

it deleted the 2 round burst because they realized it's a complete waste of time

[winged mica]

i like the AK-200 prototype ngl

[autumn estuary]

and wanted them all reverted back to get a slightly worse rifle.

[winged mica]

It looks unique

[autumn estuary]

Yeah, the AK-200 was nice. some good design work.

[winged mica]

Well

[winged mica]

It actually has reliability issue last time I read something

And its too expensive to be made too

[autumn estuary]

If your new rifle hasn't got reliability issues

then you haven't made a new rifle.

[winged mica]

POV: M16

[wind heron]

the AK-12 now is more or less in a good spot

[winged mica]

Hope it stays that way

[autumn estuary]

To be fair, the M16 originally would have been great. It was the fucking with it by the military that screwed it up.

iirc, the SAS still have the OG spec M16 in stores that they like to use.

[winged mica]

I still like the AK74M

[wind heron]

people who think the russian military should have went with zenitco are actually fucking delusional

[autumn estuary]

They should go with zenitco so I can get zenitco parts for my friggin airsoft kit.

[wind heron]

it's like saying every M4 should have full daniel defense rails

[winged mica]

Meh

They gone with KAC instead

Would be kinda cool if its Daniel Defense

Tho im stuck w M16A4 and I am not in a happy spot

[wind heron]

correct, because your furniture shouldn't triple the cost of your rifle

[winged mica]

Idk how it works

I keep always think Alfa people bought Zenitco furniture to mod their rifles to fit their needs

[autumn estuary]

Depends on a lot of factors, if they pushed DD to larger scale manufacture the unit cost comes down.

[winged mica]

Special Forces can optimize rifles to their own uses

[wind heron]

zenitco stuff are insanely expensive and heavy

no military would ever spend the money on that

especially not on an infantry rifle

[winged mica]

Their rifles dont need to be fancy

[autumn estuary]

Well, the UK had DD rails on all the L85s

[winged mica]

Their main point is just it needs to work

[autumn estuary]

Hilariously, replaced with yet another set of rails now,

[winged mica]

Except for some that actually dont

Like uh

Sig P320 pistol

I like how it looks it just sucks

[wind heron]

I actually agree too

[winged mica]

Nice

If it isnt broken

Dont change it

[wind heron]

this is an upgrade kit to just put rails on the 74m

cheap and simple

and replaces the muzzle brake with a flash hider

[winged mica]

A lot of railed dust cover aint that expensive tbh

And some can be ran reliably too

[wind heron]

the cool part is

if they want to they can just develop a new rear sight

boom now all a sudden most of AK's faults are now fixed

[winged mica]

I have never used ladder sights

Mainly peep sights

[wind heron]

here's one in the field

[winged mica]

They field that rn?

Or its soldier personal affects

[autumn estuary]

Honestly, I'm surprised at how few optics are kicking around.

[wind heron]

the kit is made for the russian army

[winged mica]

If the optic moves around on the gun thats not good

[autumn estuary]

a cheap and cheerful optic is not expensive at all, but even at basic level makes a big difference.

[winged mica]

Unless I misinterpreted thay

[autumn estuary]

I mean in use.

[wind heron]

optics aren't cheap though

[winged mica]

Like you mean the sight moving around on the gun?

[spring fable]

when it comes to military procurement, nothing ever is cheap

[autumn estuary]

No, I mean them being in use

[winged mica]

Ah

[wind heron]

this is the current rear sight

on the AK-12

[winged mica]

Tbh most of optics in military have to reach a standard

[wind heron]

pretty nifty

[winged mica]

Mainly their reliability, ability to hold zero and more

[wind heron]

ukraine and russian soldiers use holosuns

tons and tons of them

[autumn estuary]

Yeah there's plenty of things to do, but then... it's not that big of a deal to meet those standards.

[wind heron]

the HS515 is estonia's service optic

[winged mica]

If they engage in combat at long distance idk why they dont op for like a Combat 4x optics like US

[autumn estuary]

because combat 4x optics get expensive fast.

[wind heron]

I bet you if they order in bulk they can get the unit price of a HS515 really low

[wind heron]

because 4x optics are super expensive

[autumn estuary]

I would imagine so,

[winged mica]

Yeh but if they have a huge budget as the US military can field ACOG to 1 mil troops

I dont see how they cant

Unless im missing a point

[wind heron]

https://www.amazon.com/Holosun-AEMS-CORE-110101-Enclosed-Optic/dp/B09SGPZRJ9
this is an actual combat proven optic in ukr, it retails for 300

presumably they can get these for a lot less than 300 per

both sides use this optic

[autumn estuary]

Every bit of combat evidence suggests rifle engagement is generally at like, 100-300, iirc.

[winged mica]

That looks nice ngl

[wind heron]

with or without a magnifier

the HM3X

[winged mica]

I thought that was a Vortex but UH1 is expensive

[autumn estuary]

there was a bit of faff when folks were pissing around in deserts where we were going back down the "MUH RIFLE MUST SHOOT 1000m" but that seems to have died down,

[wind heron]

PKM with the AEMS proper

The core is a cheaper version

[winged mica]

Some combats engaged at 500 yards which happened in Afgan a lot

[wind heron]

This thing is way better than the UH-1

[winged mica]

ACOG was great in that situation

Also

[wind heron]

Because it's an actual red dot it doesn't have the awful battery life that true holographic sights have

[winged mica]

Why it has a pistol grip at the stock

[autumn estuary]

Afghan yes, suggested longer ranged combat again.

[winged mica]

First time seeing such modification

[wind heron]

You can do the same in tarkov

[autumn estuary]

but yeah, ukraine is back to up close and personal.

[winged mica]

It has been 2nd year now?

And it is still going

[wind heron]

The purpose is so when you shoot off a bipod you wrap your arm around and grip the grip on the stock

[winged mica]

The more it goes the more buba guns we see

Which is something intrigued me

[wind heron]

So yeah if this optic can survive machine gun fire

It is combat proven

[winged mica]

I was trained with a 6x for MG and I thought it is a cool idea

[wind heron]

I'm just saying this because people sometimes make it a big deal to buy a "combat proven" optic

[winged mica]

I was born in a time where rifles engaged in combat must have optics

[winged mica]

I have never fully understood how it was with iron sights

[wind heron]

Here's a UA soldier with an AK-12 and the HS512

[winged mica]

What magnifier is that

[stark torrent]

[wind heron]

HM3X

[winged mica]

Wow

[wind heron]

All this is an elaborate way to talk about optics I want in tarkov

[winged mica]

Its no joke they really really like HS

[stark torrent]

Ye no worries

[wind heron]

It's what they can afford

And it helps holosun build their reputation

[winged mica]

I remember if we talk about Guns in (redacted) channel Josta would smite us

[wind heron]

The conditions there are awful

If the optics survive they're rugged as shit

[winged mica]

Mud must be the staple of Europe

Nightmare of any rifles

[wind heron]

Here's the same set on a minimi

[winged mica]

One thing I hate in Tarkov is that they dont have stripper clips for Mosin or SKS

Always feel like they should be a thing

[wind heron]

agree

[winged mica]

Wait

Do they have speedload for revolver

They dont right?

[wind heron]

yes

[winged mica]

Damn

I wonder if they would consider adding them

[autumn estuary]

Speedloader for RSh would make me very happy.

[wind heron]

I'm tempted to buy an AEMS core for airsoft

[winged mica]

I could use stripper clip for 556 to speedload mags in Tarkov

Thatd be very useful

[wind heron]

that it would

generally having preloaded disposable clips would make your life a lot easier

but it also means you can't just store 60 rounds in your pouch

[winged mica]

I once won a fight against a chad AI in SPT by shooting him with chamber feeding Vepr

It was so ass but I won somehow

[autumn estuary]

oh dear.

[winged mica]

I died 3 minutes after ward anyway

Couldnt stop the heavy bleed

Im still wonder

If we could kill ppl in Tarkov by direct hit a 40mm impact

Like the round does not explode

[real solstice]

I am nearly level 22 and I still haven't found an awl for lavatory level 1 (realism mod)

[low iris]

Shrimply buy it

[real solstice]

I haven't found a single 5.45 60 rounder either

[low iris]

At that pount

[real solstice]

realism mod

with flea changes

[low iris]

Oh yeah forgot about yhat

Super gae so i changed it lol

[real solstice]

not so shrimple now

[winged mica]

Flea Market:

https://tenor.com/view/suit-slideshow-man-in-suit-sitting-man-wearing-suit-sitting-slideshow-man-wearing-suit-meme-gif-25275395

[real solstice]

SPT Realism mod

[low iris]

Literally run scavs then jg

[winged mica]

Realism mod has Flea

Wdym

[low iris]

Shoreline has rhe big ass warehouse

Go there as a scav

[real solstice]

Hardcore flea with very limited selections

[winged mica]

Oh

Oh you play "I want to tie my balls" option

Oh well then

Wait for Fence ig

[low iris]

Hardcore flea is so dumb though

[winged mica]

Unless you play w I want to tie my balls option

[real solstice]

To be fair, I did dumb down the ai difficulty a little

[winged mica]

I download Softcore

So instead of you could pay I have to trade

Its pretty nice ngl

[winged mica]

@hushed elk

[hushed elk]

Da fuk

[winged mica]

Tarkov lootbox

[zenith fog]

If somebody interesting in Arena Breakout Infinite CBT - you can write me about that

[tame dawn]

SVM will get overrode by sain/swag+donuts

[winged mica]

There is mod that let you override load order

[lyric cairn]

Or you can edit the load order yourself

If you don't feel like using a mod

[winged mica]

@tame dawn yo

I have a great mod idea if you wanna attempt making

[wintry ridge]

[winged mica]

wait

he blacked out his thorax

H O W

[wintry ridge]

bleeding

[tame dawn]

[winged mica]

idk if you can but I feel like in-game text chat would be great

since you already work MPT plugin

[tame dawn]

Lmao i don't do modmaking really. The stuff im working on is backend/server fix stuff.

Not really working in spt/mpt, more finding solutions around/alongside it

Im not that deep into the weeds yet

But that would be cool

[winged mica]

:(

[tame dawn]

MPT discord does take feature requests

[winged mica]

thought you could take the glory

[tame dawn]

It'd be cool to learn how to do, but i spend too much time in tech shit at work

Hard to find motivation outside work for that stuff

You'd want text chat while ingame?

[winged mica]

yeh

[tame dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-the-rock-eyebrow-gif-22322634

Why is there a field to allow traders in raid

Hey if anyone is in a raid, can you test something for me

In spt/prokect fika

Open the console and type: bring

[winged mica]

wtf

Aki is 3.8.3 already?

[hushed elk]

wtf

[wintry ridge]

hi zoro

[wintry ridge]

just bring?

[hushed elk]

oooh

3.8.3 just reverts some change 3.8.2 does

i have to check which mods are not compatible with 3.8.1

maybe its wroth updating

[wintry ridge]

i think everything works fine, i dont think we have to wipe anything to update

[hushed elk]

ok so

the only mod that does not work without it being updated is

realism

but thats been updated already

[wintry ridge]

if we update we should add scorpion trader

[tame dawn]

Yeah, just bring and hit enter

While in raid

If you are playing with friends, you have to be the host

[winged mica]

damn

I am angry that I need to downgrade SPT to host server

[winged mica]

Realism still works

[hushed elk]

[tame dawn]

||public class FikaCommands
{
[ConsoleCommand("bring", "", null, "Teleports all AI to yourself as the host", [])]
public static void Bring()||

[tame dawn]

Thats our current issue. We started on 3.8, avoiding upgrading anything, and getting new dudes onboarded sucks hunting for older file versions

I wonder if the mods/plugins folder is small enough to put into google drive

Just have everyone go download and drag the folders over instead of hunting every mod down and updating package.json info for stuff

[winged mica]

gah

whatever

we can still do 3.8.0

@hushed elk I introduced my Unheard Edition friend to SPT

and now she's addicted

[tame dawn]

i tried the same with a friend that got the paypig edition

He downloaded it, played one game, then went back to normal eft PVE, to play by himself, because he paid for the $250 and wants his moneys worth

And didn't think his other friends that got unheard would bother setting stuff up

[wintry ridge]

lmao

poor financial choices

@tame dawn have you tried any modding with spt?

[tame dawn]

Yeah, dudes going through a divorce so ill give him the pass.

As in installing mods? Or making them?

[winged mica]

poor dude

dude got 2 grieves now

muy antipatico

[wintry ridge]

making em

im thinking of merging 2 models or just adjusting an existing one

making da bullet proof mask have momex

[tame dawn]

Nah, no clue on that one

Adjusting shouldn't be too hard

[brittle sinew]

Jesus what kind of saps are you friends with

[tame dawn]

His friend group, not mine.

All my other homies run spt/fika

[wintry ridge]

i just have zero clue where to start

[tame dawn]

https://youtu.be/mO7P9NsR7JU?si=yS_WNP5T0NfEP6bZ

Hope you like blender and unity

[wintry ridge]

[tame dawn]

Damn, reading into tarkov dev stuff is hilarious, the shit cheaters can get away with

https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/escape-from-tarkov/483941-bypassing-ssl-pinning-dumping-request-responses.html

They have fucking ssl cert pinning implemented, but can use old keys in requests to decrypt.

Holy fucking slavjank

[winged mica]

I mean

I think Tarkov has a bad client check and stuff

they cant tell people cheating most of the time

[tame dawn]

https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/escape-from-tarkov/508969-pocket-stealing-exploit.html

No way in hell pocket sizing is a client side check

I can't

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-dow-gif-24856862

I knew it was bad, but never bothered looking into the actual technical side of things for it

This shit is an actual clown fiesta

Oh no no nooooo

Hwid checks were client side too

I knew it was bad, just not this bad. Jesus fuck my faith in this company is even more demolished

[soft coral]

:)

I keep being more right everday

about them

[tame dawn]

They have a method to stop people from teleporting and returning you to where you originally were

But you can just reply back and tell the server to outright ignore it

Client literally just tells the server to

Loot teleport is just cheaters telling the server to throw items at their feet

Because BSG is too fucking lazy to check if an item is in their inventory before throwing AND any item can be fucking thrown

[real solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

cheat to the server

[soft coral]

so the servers are bottoms

[tame dawn]

Pretty much

[winged mica]

damn

this channe is becoming Tarkov pirating

[vivid dawn]

Well now i know how easy it is to vaccuum

Should do the same with my living space

[soft coral]

I wonder why

[winged mica]

ughhhhh

this is so fucking retarded

[tame dawn]

Nah, i don't advocate cheat shit or anything like that.

Just got into the rabbithole of texture modding and ended up cooming over how bad their security is

[wind heron]

The realism mod makes changing gun stats so easy

For some reason the AK-105 is the only 5.45 AK with the rate reducer

https://en.kalashnikovgroup.ru/catalog/boevoe-strelkovoe-oruzhie/avtomaty/avtomat-kalashnikova-ak-15

The solution to 7.62x39

700 rpm

[terse rune]

you know, can't be upset with this scav run XD cause of death made me laugh TBH XD

[winged mica]

@hushed elk yo

you there?

[real solstice]

Veritas on suicide watch after looking thru tarkov's security code

[wintry ridge]

real

[winged mica]

god damn

guiding my friends through setting up a SPT is a pain

[terse rune]

but it has it's own installer XD or is he having issues with something else?

[winged mica]

it's a she

and she was kinda eh

don't know how to start a server

so I guided her

and then I subjected her to divinely torture called setting up an MPT server

[terse rune]

ahh okay

[winged mica]

since she insists of opening server

she has server running

and that was pain

[terse rune]

im just waiting for the co-op mode to unlock for me lol XD hate playing live atm XD

[tame dawn]

Its not that bad lol

Most annoying part is grabbing every mod, then syncing player .jsons if they wanna play solo/offline then keep progress on the server.

Our admin was MIA last week, so i didn't get to test any of my save sync stuff im working on

[winged mica]

thing is

she doesn't want to VC

or stream

so guiding her through all of those is a pain

[tame dawn]

Cup being jebaited by an egirl for spt support

Or an "egirl"

[stark torrent]

Classic Cuppy L

[winged mica]

straight up ngl

here @stark torrent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBL5koio-Eo

I think you always do this

[cunning cliff]

@crystal musk, stop trying to install tarkov

[low iris]

bro got baited lol

[tame dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686

No vc, no streaming, nothing

Time to give them the newbie chat special

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[tame dawn]

Btw when you eventually have to get them to port forward or update firewall rules, check the fika discord faq, they have an automated tool for it.

Unless you just really hate yourself

[winged mica]

I could already join my friend game so its good

[real solstice]

https://x.com/nikgeneburn/status/1789925987032916312

Nikita Buyanov (@nikgeneburn) on X

guess what that means?

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 7:49 AM

More Nikita yapping

[winged mica]

Kinda cool how they model and to topology work

Looks clean

[low iris]

oh thats cause gray zone stole assets from eft

[winged mica]

That is EFT and ABI

[vivid dawn]

I mean,thats the biggest mistake you can do

Unoptimised shit models

[winged mica]

I dont think Nikita gives a crap about GZW

[low iris]

He would if they are stealing assets

[winged mica]

Idk that is a pretty clean model

[real solstice]

Nikita is shitposting about it since he knows he can't do any legal shit about it

[wintry ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892124338684297307/1233493661677781082/caption-14-1.gif

[vivid dawn]

Lul nah you could get rid of half the Tris and maintain same quality

[real solstice]

Pretty sure its a scan from kalashnikov themselves

[winged mica]

The reason why it looks unoptimized is because the game tri it in Unity

[stark torrent]

Yep, Grok said the reason FPS is low in GAMMA is not because of the NPCs themselves , but the high quality textures the NPC guns are

[wintry ridge]

honestly tarkov has so much gun bloat

[stark torrent]

Thats why Rostok runs like balls

[winged mica]

Every model gets triangulated in Unity or any game engine

[low iris]

Why shouldn't it

[real solstice]

The world models are or atleast were full detail

[winged mica]

Topology is clean so I kinda like it

[real solstice]

I pulled one open in blender and seeing all of the internals modeled took a few years off of my life

[winged mica]

Usually world model is way less poly

[vivid dawn]

Thats why Burn fixed most models which was a blessing

[winged mica]

The main character view render model however has to be details

[wintry ridge]

theres no reason not to if the loot pools are done right but like

marked room shouldn't give me 3 mp9s

[low iris]

Why not

[winged mica]

Other game has similar polygon details such as BF1

[wintry ridge]

because its the high tier loot room and those smgs are like 20k from traders

[winged mica]

Many game engines including unity now can render these high poly model with few to little impact

[vivid dawn]

In Tarkov your gun spring is modeled too on most weapons cause you can remove the dust cover.Instead of having a seperate more omptimised model.... nah the game uses one thats shitty

[winged mica]

Most of unity problem is coding

And memory leakage again

[real solstice]

I was talking about gamma since it uses ripped tarkov assets

[winged mica]

And a lot of calculation in which Tarkov dont have the most optimized way to handle

[real solstice]

Gamma is ABI confirmed

[winged mica]

And terrible server structure contributed to terrible optimization

[low iris]

What modded game doesnt use tarkov ripped assets

Lets be real

[winged mica]

That model is pretty lowpol and game ready

[real solstice]

I'd get stutters in the beginning of arena matches because of all the grenades going off

[tame dawn]

Yeah its trash but at least its justifiable somewhat

[winged mica]

If a Roblox game has similar detail and polygon count (check Deadline)

And Roblox one runs fine

Theres something wrong w Tarkov

[vivid dawn]

Its not,just make an optimised one and one with the Spring so that if someone is funny and has no dust cover the game uses the shitty one

[tame dawn]

Model every piece as if its always seen for gun compatiblity when slapping parts together. Its not "right", but i can see how things ended up that way

[winged mica]

Again Unity can handle the huge amount of poly

[vivid dawn]

If you code it right

[winged mica]

Its just the way they render the weapon in game cause huge lag

[vivid dawn]

Obviously they dont

[winged mica]

Kiba tbh he knows his shit w the game

And I do believe so since the way he models it looks very well made

[tame dawn]

Meanwhile vacuum cheats work by telling the game to "throw" items to a player

Not only nades

[winged mica]

Tbh

[tame dawn]

Or only items in the inventory

[winged mica]

Since the discovery of you can loot items from a player Secured Container

[tame dawn]

Nope. Its coded in a way that deadass sees you throwing a tank battery across the map, and says thats fine.

[winged mica]

I dont think its hard to find an item in off raid stash

[vivid dawn]

Russian jank

As usual

[tame dawn]

For real, i can't comprehend it

The fact they made a function, specifically to throw items, and the entire time, no one in the whole dev team thought to verify that the item is throwable or in someones inventory to begin with

[vivid dawn]

Its like found in raid status

Why are quest rewards found in raid

Makes no sense

Shit is all over the place

Their Spaghettie code is like molten Spaghettie Ice Cream

That but molten

[tame dawn]

damn cheat devs really using ghidra for reverse engineering tarkov stuff

Ive got zero interest in making cheats, its just neat seeing the overlap between game modding and the security world

[crystal musk]

anyone know the exact amount of zoom you get when aiming with basic bitch sights

[stark torrent]

sex

[crystal musk]

sex

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-escape-from-tarkov-тарков-побегизтаркова-eft-gif-23055337

[winged mica]

Amount of aim?

[crystal musk]

yeah like how much the game zooms when aiming through reflex sights

like 1.25x

[winged mica]

O

Tbh idk

[crystal musk]

well fuck

[winged mica]

Usually they tell the scope magnification at the right corner

And the range but I dont think you are lookin for that

[crystal musk]

yeah definitely not that

it feels around 1.2x

[tame dawn]

Its higher than advertised

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/1327-eft-scope-and-red-dot-sight-overhaul-by-geff-hannigan-reupload/#overview

This fixes alot of them

Couldn't find anything on just irons, but here's an example

[winged mica]

Tbh

Elcan Specter feels way more zoom than just 4x

[tame dawn]

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/942-fontaine-s-fov-fix-variable-optics/

Also this

[winged mica]

Currently doesnt work for the most SPT for me

I kinda dont want to update since I would have to update the entire mod pack

[tame dawn]

Praise lord fontaine

[winged mica]

Kinda suck they dont support like Nexus due to copyright

They used to

[tame dawn]

Most mods are compatible

[winged mica]

But they got taken down

[tame dawn]

Also, for the 1st link i sent, you need to remove "-spt-380" from the folder name, then go into that mod folder, into package.json, and change akiVersion to "3.8.x"

I don't really mind manually modding stuff. Reminds me of the old minecraft days

[winged mica]

Well

Right now SPT is pushing so many updates out

They thrusted to 3.8.3 already

And I havent done anything

[tame dawn]

I will wait until the feature changes are worthy of updating

[wind heron]

Nah use FoV fix

The FoV fix is better than scope overhaul

[tame dawn]

i use both and get actual variable optics

[winged mica]

Are they compatible

[tame dawn]

Yes, i use them

[wind heron]

The FoV fix comes with variable zoom so

You only need one

[tame dawn]

[wind heron]

🤷

[tame dawn]

Try em out. I like both. Borkels nvg and thermals is another good one

[wind heron]

actually you might be onto something

Because the stock scope reticles are fucked

[tame dawn]

Yes

[wind heron]

so just the FoV fix makes them a jumbled mess

[tame dawn]

Thats why i use both

[wind heron]

iirc it also fixes the eye relief

[tame dawn]

I think so.

Imagine a spectre optic that is a simple dotted t and not taking up the whole screen

[soft coral]

watched some ABI clips

shit looks exacty like tarkov
but actually good

[wind heron]

Otoh I'm praying for someone to complete the mod for this

With custom animations

[wind heron]

It's like tarkov but instead of directionless "hardcore" it's a game with a clear sense of purpose

They don't have 50 useless guns that are completely pointless

For example

there's also a notable lack of gimmick guns

Most of it is military service weapons

Aside from dumb shit like the desert eagle

[tame dawn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/D8OREvqy05

This post has images of some of the optic changes

[wind heron]

I'll check it out

[wintry ridge]

i wish my mouse had more buttons

[soft coral]

mfw second optic rework

[wind heron]

so honestly arena breakout infinite immerses me more than tarkov despite being a more "arcade" game

because I don't have to stare at retarded shit like the MDR every fucking match

[tame dawn]

Oh yeah the actual post is old as shit back when they originally reworked optics

Dude does amazing work

Specter is much cleaner too

[wind heron]

The elcan is basically unusable with just the FoV rework lmao

I don't know what the fuck did they do with the reticle

[soft coral]

womp womp

[wintry ridge]

the acog4life rework is dogshit

this one is cool tho

[wintry ridge]

the scopes are cool but it bugs them out

the specter cant use top sights and the reticle doesnt get bigger when you zoom in on most scopes

[tame dawn]

.....brother that is the acog4life rework

[wintry ridge]

i like the reticles

it might just be incompatibilites or something

[tame dawn]

Keybind issue

[wind heron]

That's how it is supposed to work

[tame dawn]

Yeah its not supposed to be massive.

[wind heron]

Only FFP scopes change the reticle

[wintry ridge]

im pretty sure when you zoom in an a vudu irl the reticle grows

[wind heron]

yes

[wintry ridge]

it doesnt 4 me

[wind heron]

You need the vudu rework on top iirc

I'll test the other scopes out

[tame dawn]

Ya vudu has a compatability patch

[wintry ridge]

epic

[tame dawn]

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/1892-samswat-s-eotech-vudu-overhaul-reupload/

[wind heron]

I don't know if the uhh

[wintry ridge]

the specterdr has irons on top right

acog4life makes that stop working

[wind heron]

TANGO6T has a rework

[tame dawn]

I don't really care for it, so i don't bother with it.

[tame dawn]

Yeah it does. Check configs for a keybind conflict. I remember having something similar

[wintry ridge]

its just ctrl right click no?

[wind heron]

There's the vudu, TANGO6T, razor and another 6x LPVO I forgot what it's called

[tame dawn]

Just don't remember the exact setting. Does the same thing happen when swapping any sight?

[terse pecan]

no it doesn't

[tame dawn]

Like the magnified eotechs

[terse pecan]

realism adds that

[wintry ridge]

realism moment

awesome :D

[terse pecan]

and it doesn't have any conflicts

[wintry ridge]

(fika)

[tame dawn]

Oh if you are using realism, abandon all hope, i don't know shit about its compatability

[terse pecan]

realism is compatible with many mods

[wind heron]

realism is Fontaine's work so

[terse pecan]

you can just modify its features

enable disable them

[wintry ridge]

i like realism for the weight changes and armor

[terse pecan]

to fit the mods you use

[soft coral]

ah well brainfart locked agian

[terse pecan]

you don't even have to go into a config file and type true/false

[wind heron]

I like realism because it is designed with logic in mind

[terse pecan]

it just has a app of its own to configure it

[tame dawn]

I think for fika, we had to have the server host install one of the optic mods to have it work properly on multiplayer. It was fine in solo, but broke in multiplayer

[wintry ridge]

the meds system is a little weird for tarkov

especially with the ammo rework in realism making it so hp pens alot more armor

[wind heron]

You change individual stats with the json files

[wintry ridge]

leads to you getting like 3x the amount of heavy bleeds

[tame dawn]

Yeah, i more meant idk anything about what is compatible

[wintry ridge]

yeah we found out a fix for it

just gotta make ur own cache files

[wind heron]

As it should yeah

[wintry ridge]

wish there were more realism patches for armors n stuff

like using modded armor, hate having it level 5 in realism

[wind heron]

Rifle JHP should rip through aramid like realism

[wintry ridge]

(like 3 normally)

i like realism making FMJ ammo usable against like 70% of armors tho

very enjoyable to not have to rush m855 or a1

5.56 usable early game

[wind heron]

There's a good reason why those ammo are still in common use

IRL

Most countries use M855

And 7N6 is still more than adequate for front line use

[wintry ridge]

yes i know i dont need a lesson on ammo

[wind heron]

On top of just being super nasty

But yes it is great to see actual logic with ammo with realism

Thank fucking god

[wintry ridge]

@hushed elk how'd you set the gas masks to have armor values (and boost the helmets)

[tame dawn]

How are the bot changes to realism?

[wintry ridge]

kits?

its alright

[tame dawn]

Yeah, the bots and progression

[wintry ridge]

i like the change to loadouts

woods bots will use ARs and snipers mainly

factory ones are real lethal

[wind heron]

You can probably set all of it manually in the json configs

[wintry ridge]

shotguns and smgs

[wind heron]

I fixed the vityaz manually and it's actually good

turns out when it's not missing 100rpm the thing slaps

really good low recoil smg

[wintry ridge]

i know helmets irl are basically useless for anything that isn't a glancing shot or shrapnel but like

[wind heron]

feels better than an MP5

[wintry ridge]

idk its not like someone can spray 0 recoil at ur head from 200m away like in tarkov

(rogues)

[tame dawn]

I might install it and just disable the trader and medical parts.

[wintry ridge]

thats what i did

trader is cool but like

i wish it'd remake everything to barters instead of messing with stock

or maybe boost prices for stuff that isn't ammo or old food

[tame dawn]

Stances would be cool, i just need to mess with keybinds.

Side mouse buttons are for exfil display and swapping shoulders

[wintry ridge]

they made stances a seperate mod a while ago

but updated it recently

[tame dawn]

Is the keybind just up/down a stance or cycles through them?

[wintry ridge]

you can do both

i have up arrow to cycle thru em

but you could bind it to stand down or whatever

[tame dawn]

Damn i need more mouse buttons

[wintry ridge]

it's a little annoying to have the stance reset after shooting a bunch

or aiming even i think

[tame dawn]

Thats my biggest worry. Im already planning to rebind variable optic zoom to mouse button+scroll

[wintry ridge]

you can just enable left control + scroll for that

its in f12 option

[tame dawn]

Right now its just alt scroll and i need to rebind the movespeed keybind

[wintry ridge]

maybe bind movespeed to control+ scroll and have optics just be scroll

[tame dawn]

Tbh i wish i could just lock movement speed setting while ads

[wintry ridge]

so you can movespeed when you wanna and scroll normally

[tame dawn]

You might be onto something

The variable zooming is so cool. It makes the goofy 3-12x optics actually usable

[wind heron]

the scope rework might make the HHS-I a little better to use

[wintry ridge]

i cant find the movespeed setting tho for some reason

[tame dawn]

Same

[wintry ridge]

oh

its next/previous

wait does it also affect menus

i dont think so?

atleast its not affecting my invetory scrolling atleast

at least

[terse pecan]

i don't think

that works

any mouse buttons don't work for bepinex

from what i remember at least

[tame dawn]

[wintry ridge]

no they do

i can zoom with fovfix using mouse 3

[stark torrent]

We fucking lost

[wintry ridge]

eft twitter users are like

1/20th the actual players

[stark torrent]

BSG farming them Ls like they have a booster or smth

[cunning cliff]

why do celebrities think that twitter is the main internet town square

its never that easy

[stark torrent]

Twitter must be the worst place because ppl post all kinds of shit there no rules attachet

you have porn, gore , beatings , crimes

crazy

[terse pecan]

its bad yeah

but you have to specifically look at places to find those

you just have to block any gimmick account

and you're good to go

[stark torrent]

[terse pecan]

idk why do you have a feed like that bro

i just have anime guns tanks memes and cats on mine

[autumn estuary]

Twitter is awful because of how it's a feedback loop

[frozen olive]

Twitter is awful for browsing too lol

[wind heron]

twitter is really unfun to use

[crystal musk]

[hushed elk]

i did it by placing realism last on the order idk what overwrites the helmets so they are back to being normal

[brittle sinew]

So for some reason my expensive items just wont sell

I've been trying to sell an injector case for the last 2 days, undercutting everyone

And no one buys it

[wintry ridge]

awesome

[frozen olive]

Unironically

Its really funny how SPT modders havent figured out load order beyond name first

Lmao

[hushed elk]

i mean thats how they make it for ppl who cant read

but you can totally set it yourself

[wind heron]

order.json right?

[wintry ridge]

no they have it

aamfacshop mods have "LOAD AFTER" in the jsons but like

nothing else does

[frozen olive]

Man

[wintry ridge]

kosm

[frozen olive]

Jeff

[wintry ridge]

hi how are you

[wintry ridge]

how'd you do that?

i tried making tac gear load before realism but its still not giving it an armor class

[hushed elk]

just load realism last

[wintry ridge]

how though

[hushed elk]

order.json

[wintry ridge]

[hushed elk]

if you dont want to do all this bs

you can rename the realism forder to yrealism

or something

[wintry ridge]

what if you just send me yours and i delete the lines for files I dont have

[wintry ridge]

thanks sparter

[frozen olive]

There is supposedly a mod that does load order too

[wintry ridge]

yeah i saw it but like idk

i just want to launch server and launcher

i dont wanna have to fudge with a mod loader

[frozen olive]

if only they had 5+ years to make a good mod loader

did you know before

mod authors did not do the user/bepinex shit

and just was like

"here's a folder with a name, figure it out>"

lmao

[wintry ridge]

lol

i remember

"is this a bepinex or a mods folder"

"idk scroll thru comments"

[wintry ridge]

its still not giving da gas mask armor but its whatever

[hushed elk]

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9YVrxdWjJ8&ab_channel=VeryBadSCAV

[brittle sinew]

Buh?

[earnest timber]

Who cares, Nikita! How about you manage your developer team instead?

[winged mica]

Huh

[vivid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnwVQmLBuSc&ab_channel=VeryBadSCAV

speedrun to clown degree

[winged mica]

Yo @hushed elk

U free?

[hushed elk]

kinda

need soemthing ?

[winged mica]

Nah just asking if ya want play

But ig its not it then

[hushed elk]

well i cant anyways
did a funny yesterday

and now tarkok wont boot

[winged mica]

F

We lost saves

[hushed elk]

nah

i have those

[winged mica]

Wdym it wont boot

What regarded did you do

[hushed elk]

problem is
if i cant fix whatever is wrong

ill have to reinstall spt to fix it

and spt is on 3.8.3 now

[winged mica]

Worth updating?

[hushed elk]

technically no

but most mods should be compatible anyways

fika server says the current fika mod can run on 3.8.3

[winged mica]

I tried yesterday to run that one 3.8.3 but it doesnt work for some reasons

Lemme retry it

Damn it

[junior inlet]

So he's saying their mesh of an actual firearm is similar? I don't get this one

[earnest timber]

Its pretty much the same topology, see how those lines on the mesh match up?

There's no way two different 3D artists with different rendering properties and skills could have the exact same result

Your average Joe will never notice it, but it is a literal ripoff

[junior inlet]

Well only way for him to actually prove this shit is simple

Start a lawsuit.

Make use of your money laundering office in the UK for once

Whining on twitter to the 2% of people who still somehow believe you solves nothing.

[real solstice]

He's gotta get that bottle of tarkovskaya out his mouth first

[earnest timber]

He's wont, he's Russian

[wind heron]

the comments say the guy dickride's BSG so idk who to trust

worst case scenario they just redo the models

the game already has tons of new stuff compared to tarkov

what I don't get is why they're busy trying to strike at ABI over saying themselves

Like the comments said, just sue ABI if he actually believes it's stolen property

[winged mica]

honestly I just play which game I have rn

and so far Tarkov I can mod it to fully offline and only PvE

[hushed elk]

i kinda fixed the issue

huh

all issues steamed from that one artillery mod frog gave me

@winged mica

you here ?

i need to test something

[winged mica]

yeh im here

[winged mica]

\wait

why

why do we need it

[hushed elk]

i need you to log in

into my server

[winged mica]

do I need to do anything

like updating game

or something

[hushed elk]

maybe

like prob yes

but i want to see if you can do it anyways

[vivid dawn]

lol bad scav is someone that calls out BSG a ton especialy because of the cheating even before it was cool Big L for the comments

[wind heron]

I am honestly caring about this more than I should

[winged mica]

Radmin doesn't want to start

[hushed elk]

thats literally not my fault

[winged mica]

I can join the launcher

idk if the game raid

[earnest timber]

Doesnt for me and couple others aswell

[winged mica]

jesus what is this Shooting Can thing

[hushed elk]

did you join cuppy ?

[winged mica]

I am in the game

but idk about the server

what map

[hushed elk]

nah

so you managed to log in ?

[winged mica]

yes

[hushed elk]

thats what i want to know

aaah

ok

we can try more later

[winged mica]

I still like how

fucking lotus

[stark torrent]

tf

[hushed elk]

[winged mica]

no its not actual Tarkov

its SPT

@hushed elk

I got Unheard Edition

expensive

[frozen olive]

250

[stark torrent]

[frozen olive]

the fuckiing

this fucking moron

make it a separte mod for fuck sake

fucking trader mod authors adding all the profile bricking shit

[real solstice]

JunkoSpaceMommy about to add another 50 music mods all at once

[winged mica]

idk why many custom mod needs to have custom trader

like why

[frozen olive]

do not use Priscillu btw

it's one of the worst made ones

[real solstice]

what's the matter with it?
I used it back in the 3.7.X days and it seemed to work ok

[winged mica]

@hushed elk

How do u nerf lotus

[hushed elk]

wdym

[winged mica]

Lotus sells a lot of shit by default

So I want to balance it a bit

And like how u did in game

[hushed elk]

aaah

its realism

[winged mica]

Huh

[winged mica]

Ah that

[stark torrent]

remove the cringe shit ?

[winged mica]

Nah

I am into CBT and their quests are CBT

[hushed elk]

if you use code UNHEARD on the spt console it gives you 250$ usd

[winged mica]

Wtf

[brittle sinew]

Is there any way to change how much softcore increases stash size

150 lines at lvl 3 stash is fucking crazy how am I ever supposed to fill this

[autumn estuary]

you can turn it off entirely, but I don't think you can tweak it

[brittle sinew]

What a shame, lot of things in that mod could do with customization

Because holy shit it's sometimes a really unbalanced mod

[winged mica]

the fuck is this

dude 1 tap head me with fucking HP

[autumn estuary]

HP to the face is usually fatal

[winged mica]

that's not true

well

maybe

[autumn estuary]

there are very few things that do not kill you if they hit you in the face

[winged mica]

[hushed elk]

in the config

like all the other mods

[brittle sinew]

Wait, can I just change the numbers and it actually works?

[hushed elk]

if you let SVM overwrite softcore
you can pick how many lines you want your stash to be

[brittle sinew]

That's an option too

Is it a good idea to let SVM overwrite softcore though?

[hushed elk]

only on a few things

because you otherwise might as well turn off soft

[brittle sinew]

Tbh I only play softcore for the containers, hideout & barter changes lol

[hushed elk]

fair

dont touch those things in svm then

[brittle sinew]

The whole mod seems so incredibly broken to me

[hushed elk]

its made to make the game easier and harder on other things

[brittle sinew]

Keytool in my SICC case in my 6x6 gamma

Like that's just broken

200 lines of stash? broken.

[hushed elk]

being able to cheese market offers to make millions in vanilla is also broken

[brittle sinew]

True that

I buy a 5k muzzle and flip it for 30k

Reminds me of the pre-fir days lol

[brittle sinew]

Anyway couldn't I just disable this setting and then set the values in svm without having to change my load order?

If it doesn't change the setting it shouldn't overwrite it, no?

[hushed elk]

ye

thats the easier way imo

[brittle sinew]

That's what I thought, having to change the load order n all seems like a bad tradeoff lol

[hushed elk]

too much busy work

[brittle sinew]

Yep

[autumn estuary]

200 lines in your stash just means you can hoard more.

Massive stash is just convenience, space is not an issue for long even with tiny stash anyway

[hushed elk]

im using the 200 lines

shit feels endless

get boxes into the mix and might as well be infinite

[brittle sinew]

I'm at 150 lines atm and it already feels endless

It literally makes cases useless for me

[autumn estuary]

I've got 150 atm, I'm using around...30? if that?

[brittle sinew]

Why tf would I ever grind for the thicc case anymore

[autumn estuary]

Just a stack of cases to organise

You bothered grinding for thicc before?

[brittle sinew]

This exists

[brittle sinew]

Every wipe in live I grind for the thicc cases

Be it through private clinic or the booze barter

[autumn estuary]

Wew.

[hushed elk]

the scrolling gets to be much at times

[brittle sinew]

Pg up and pg down are your friends for this :)

[autumn estuary]

I've had a few, but usually I'm pretty happy with my storage by the time I have the basic cases.

[brittle sinew]

Also is there a mod that autosorts shit to the bottom instead of top

[hushed elk]

yes but when i need to click it 15 times to reach the bottom
you know you have an issue

[brittle sinew]

Wait how do you set yours to do that

I click it once and it sends me to the top of bottom

[hushed elk]

it doesnt do that for me

[autumn estuary]

but yeah, inventory tetris is important in raid, but I really don't see the point out of it

[hushed elk]

it sends me an entire page worth down

[brittle sinew]

Yeah mine just sends me to the very bottom or top

Probably a windows setting

[brittle sinew]

Tetris is like half the game wtf

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-gif-25367147

[autumn estuary]

Hoarding too much kit, duh

only thing I hoard is backpacks.

My goal is 100kg of backpacks.

[brittle sinew]

I hoard guns

I have 8 weapon cases in live tark

[autumn estuary]

I rarely keep more than 2-3 primaries and a handful of secondaries.

[brittle sinew]

Call me Lord of War, the amount of guns I got

[autumn estuary]

I've got two thicc's full in SP atm

and a couple on the rack

and 90% I'm seriously questioning why i bothered.

[winged mica]

@hushed elk

do you know if there's a way to reduce quest tracker time

[hushed elk]

time ?

[winged mica]

like the quest that asks you to mark truck

how do you reduce that time

[hushed elk]

[winged mica]

pain

HOW

THE

FUCK

DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO FINISH THIS QUEST

@hushed elk i am goin totally insane

[hushed elk]

just land headshots

[autumn estuary]

Short mosin with a red dot

and either headshot with whatever you find, or run PS

[bronze garden]

Compared to the later quests in tarkov man thats easy ;-;

[winged mica]

FINALLy

FUCKKK

PACA my beloved

[hushed elk]

if takok was a good game we would have this

[winged mica]

jesus

sweet liberty ma arms

NOOOOOO

@hushed elk I have finished

[hushed elk]

[autumn estuary]

I think this time round I did it with the 366 boltie loaded with AP for memes