#💣tarkov-released
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so yeah , i wouldnt hold my hopes that much
nikita did say he wants to take legal action against those mods
we'll see, I don't think he can really do much about them,
apart from throwing money at someone to spam C&Ds,
if it gets very popular they can , they did the same with halo 3 mods
i mean idk
i guess we will live and see
thing is , the mods cant ask any money right now
asking any money is very illegal , since it's Tarkov assets
Nice.
I doubt anything will come of this,
best thing that could happen is streamers quit. but they're way too coddled for that
they've been trying for ages
thing is , now they released their own
it's been a longstanding thing to ban streamers for playing it or talking about it, talks about legal threats and so on
so it will directly affect their income / playerbase you know
as a direct competitor
yeah but that doesn't really mean anything different
idk i guess we will see
they were ALWAYS directly using BSG's IP
they have every right to legally attack them
but they are also russian so fuck knows
they've had every legal right to attack them the whole time
yes man , but now they have the same product 1-1
you understand?
the modders just went way less open about it, you can bet if Nikita manages to figure out who to go after he'd be suing them already
they already did
making the same game in offline mode isn't any defense
you're still using the same assets, code and effectively releasing the same product with a couple tweaks
yeah but now they have the same gamemode or whatever 1 to 1 , which is 110% piracy or whatever
It's not illegal to make alternate parts for someone's car.
not how it works
thats not how source code licencing works
yeah making mods for Tarkov is not illegal
No, but fair uses terms exist,
the tarkov mods are 100% illlegal becuase BSG not only never gave their accord , but they also said they are NOT OK with it
and in this case, BSG have actually fucked up.
it's their product at the end of the day
but they were repackaging the whole game and making it available to play without purchasing the game
which was always illegal
Yeah, except the current ones aren't.
they are using the tarkov source code which is not allowed by BSG
the one with actual coop is
mods or not , if they use their soruce code
It does
thats on them
there's two main branches
SIT & SPT both require you to have a legal copy of the game, or it kicks you out and tells you to go buy the game.
one requires you to own the game (or at least find a way to DL it yourself)
there's another that didn't
that just went more underground because BSG was looking to find out who was working on it and sue them
they kept threatening data miners and shit about it
yeah , but doesnt help because BSG said they dont agree with either
now, they have to take this to court
otherwise , who cares
They won't take it to court
they need a lawsuit to find out if they are right or not
WHO are they taking it to court
probably not
they'll send C&Ds and hope that no one else takes it to court.
if they had a clue who to go after they'd already be in court
They start an investigation and i guess the authorities can find out who are the modders distributing the mod
This can happen, but they need to do legal shit and that can be a pain in the ass
I doubt they can go that far
depending on where they are hosting that can be difficult-impossible for BSG to do
Same as basically everyone else, modding is a massive grey area cause it's rarely ever taken to court, modders can't afford to even think about that shit.
They can also attack any site that distributes the mod
So they either have to remove it or they get shut down
a court order to seize servers means fuck all if the server providers don't comply
Nexus iirc already had a strike becaue of this
it usually takes a lot more effort to make things like that happen
Which is why most just pull the mod off sites and thats it
Yup.
yeah
Which is why it's still a massive grey area.
and BSG is not known to be efficient
if anything, they should sue the cheater sites first lol
why would they? the cheater sites make them money
aha 😭
I would fucking laugh, if one of the folks behind SPT or SIT actually had money to fight it in court.
they've been trying to blacklist people for datamining, threatening to sue them and modders for years
they don't give a shit about cheaters
i think he would lose
a good attourney will prob tell him to drop it
to just remvoe the mod
I don't know. It's an interesting one, because it could easily fall under fair use.
cause BSG will prob ask for this instead of just going to court
ToS ain't legally binding.
they will start with this
first , they will try and takedown this site
then, they can start looking for who is admin / uploading the files
you can find it if you want man, the authorities can
you think the authorities go after server providers just because some random gaming company wants to?
and I doubt BSG can be fucked, or afford to.
doesnt matter the URL or shit, BSG's main goal would be to shut down the distributors of the mod
they will shut down the sites
the mod cant be downloaded or uploaded normally because every trusted site would have it down
they might drop support etc
even major media distributors struggle to shut down piracy sites
Do it.
you know there was that guy that DMed you about that
You won't, chicken :P
time to give him a call grok
taking down MEGA took multiple countries cooperating for years
it;s time
ignore the fact that it'd take a huge amount of work
and that shit was WAY worse than just ripping off one game
then you face the issue that they aren't selling the game so what do you even get out of it?
tbh I understand BSG's needing money, but not like this. Doing seasonal MTX and shit like that would be fine. But not feature locks and pay to win
movie distributors went through a whole ordeal going after piracy from Australia and you know what they got?
the courts ruled that pirates had to pay fair market value
scam company selling servers brother
yeah they kinda went overboard with it , its clear Arena dried them up
so each person tracked down paid like 20$ AUD per movie pirated
no , there was a guy that asked you on how to learn modding because he wants to make stalker and gamma multiplayer
it was a while back
To have a real Stalker coop, we need a crowdfunding campaign to pay actual devs like Demonized for years with fuck all in return but the actual coop mode.

yeah , how about i buy u a coffee on pateron and make a random NPC in Gamma with my name
But anyways: there's Shadow of Coop, there's Stalker Belarus
and these mods ain't blowing
And I think that's simply because coop removes one aspect of the game: being lonely in front of your screen in a depressing game full of hope
It's the only way to be immersed and that's why you can play Stalker games for 10h straight
Stalker is very long winded.

I missed the whole shitshow
and very buggy. It's hard to play a long winded and buggy game in coop
Also 120€ for fucking coop are you serious you fucking scammers 
Get out of cordon, blast some bandits, have fun, how is this long winded
I should sue em for saying EOD includes all DLC and them saying Coop isnt DLC is a fucking lie 
It's time for
(time to sit)

You play for that short of a session? man, I spend hours waddling around each session :P
Lol.

the Devs were against it, then arena flopped
Nikitas yacht ain't paying for itself
worst thing is: making Arena not flop was so easy
Arena would be good with proper MM and a Gear system that isnt grindy like a Chinese F2P game
oh yeah it was comically bad
Did you forget Contract Wars ?
Pay 120-250bucks for it lol
it somehow had all the worst features of arena shooters with Russian wargame progression and all built on Tarkov's shitcode
115€ minimum
or you simply sit
though it was hilarious watchign the desync with the replay feature
bsg
sitting is good for your back
what the fuck
I did 
can't recommend enough a good sitting
been sat for so long I'm getting hemorrhoids
Yeah im thinking about SIT for a long time
Waiting for next SPT update even
But if BSG really goes after them i will keep that stuff on an extra well preserved HDD
HDD cause they live longer than SSD's
I've been sending the Dwarf Fortress dev physical letters asking him to make a 3D version of Zero Sievert
i really hope if they do go after SIT/SPT
but with dwarves
they just upload a new version to all the various websites,
what the fuck is this
oh you JUST saw it?
with the requirement to own tarkov removed.
that's the revive button bro
as a final "Fuck you"
theeereee we go
@foggy jay where did u find this
check it
Nikita going full blown megamind
buy the fucking expansion
the description on the new knife is hilarious too
they didn't even TRY to proofread that shit
When its 50% off and its 60€ not even then
6$ unity store asset btw
Fucking scammers
but bro the uniquely design
I assume its pve only
I can make you a better one 
it's even funnier because the stats are dogshit too
like it's not even a melee weapon you'd ever USE in game
So instead of fixing scavs spotting you and headshoting you from 150m
you have to buy this
ncie
Its an SPT mod
no don't worry they adressed that
Easy scav AI 
buying the version gets you 6 fence rep and scavs don't shoot you >60m
it's in your earlier SS
oh yeah sorry it doesn't specify a level
Like.Are they out of money due special circumstances 
Il stop there

Nikita just greedy
tbh if they do this, I might host a free public server
Escape from GAMMA
already working on a modpack anyway
Heh.
Lul nice
Grok's Yours Absolute Tarkov - GYAT
would be easy enough to atleast make a modpack installer for this
Il guess the ban of SPT and such is lifted here now too?

Ive won the war with quoting Iedy once and absolutely doing nothing then ?
No


Its a matter of time
Nah i mean til SPT dies maybe
idk i guess we will see, the cards have been thrown
I dunno, it might be the beginning of the end for tarkov instead.
250$ just so casual players can enjoy the game
that's a stunt that's... not going to sit well with a lot of people.
is this what the eft discord caht looks like now
Casuals ain't the ones who'll fork over 250, so it'll be down to the folks wanting the meta edge
EoD owners will do it most likely and the sweaty bois
I mean,
I sure as fuck ain't forking over any money
to get stuff promised for the release I'd bought.
EOD owner here: Fuck no
What's next, 500$ version to get the promised future features?
Me neither but if SPT dead i will do it on heavy discount only
if SPT dies
Yeah true
I just won't play tarkov.
if its a VERY heavy discount
it ain't that fucking special.
I hope the backlash is so hard they make it EoD included
Best case
Worst case they kill SPT and increase price even further

best case is the backlash is hard enough they take a long, hard think of where they're going.
Unheard edition
Glad Lvndmark is calling them out
it's just too expensive
like 120 euros from EoD is a slap in the balls
EoD was already expensvie enough
I can literally start playing DCS for this price
To upgrade
and this already speaks volumes
I can get a joystick, a full fidelity plane and a map
They have ubisoft working with bsg now wtf
guys
So somone broke in to my car yesterday and i had a tarkov arena key inside it so instead of stealing it the burglar left one more in there. Arena sucks
@soft coral
even this has season pass
im loving this
And here we thought EOD was pay to win
Holy shit lol
GO AND SHIT ON THEM

THEY DESERVE IT ALL
taiwanese spec ops
EOD was expensive enough
look at this motherfuckers
this is just a late april fools joke
why cant we get smth like this instead of magic radio
Days since bsg do something to fuck the playerbase and ruin the community and game even more
GOOD JOB BSG
WELL PLAYED
you can get fisting or the Unheard edition

happy to see the game go to shit
I already get fisted in game dont need to pay 250$ for it
correction
ive been seeing the game go to shit
I wonder how bad the offline will it be
so im happy it still is continuing tovdo so
I would buy it on a 50% sale if I had EOD (for 50 bucks)
if it was completely stand-alone offline
so I could mod it
but it's not

BSG will never have heavy discounts
they never do 50% sales
I thought they did for Russia day
even if its 500
streamers will buy 100%
every streamer will
their words: I think its worth it for the bonus
with bsg dildo in their ass

Tarkov brings them money so they dont really mind
I think people who will buy it, it's the most casuals who don't want wipes
only 1000USD to play a four man coop with your friends
on a game that's been buggy and broken for like 7 years
Tarkov Community Manager everyone
thats used GPU territory for many lol
you cant ask this much money for a beta game with so many issues it's crazy they did this
at least if the game was released and funcitonal
overall
bro it's like 5-6 games worth
like moderate quality FPS games go for 40-50$ USD
for Tarkov quality? shit most of those are F2P
I can buy like Squad, Dayz, Arma, Grayzone probably and a few others
it's what 2 new release CoDs?
Given their company is registered in the UK I hope they get hit with antitrust
there's very distinct lines on what constitutes DLC and this is very much it lol
it'll be funny but I doubt anyones getting shit back
dodgy russian like Nikita, ain't no way he hasn't structured it to be immune to attempts to claw money back
Best we can hope for is a complete 180 on the pricing, offering it standalone and removing that stupid unique item
He's getting paid to say such things but secretly he hates the decision made by Nikita, too
I mean at this point if it dies it's probably better lmao
SPT/SIT can get coop up with less fear of lawsuits if they go public
good lord what what did i wake up to 
Nikitas broke you lazy fuck give him 250$ USD
also EOD is gone, you get nothing unless you buy the new version for 100$ upgrade and THIS time they won't break the promise
my body is ready
I quit this shit years ago, it's all entertainment for me now
lol the fact they put "all future dlc" on this new package after lying about it once already cracked me up
though I still dabble in SPT sometimes
Escape from [ Upgrade your edition to finish this sentence]
it's literally a copy paste too, I fucking love it
buy the new edition for official spt 
this has all the good shovelware points covered (except devs private drama)
cash grab, unfinished game, broken promises, asset flips, P2W
it's just too expensive man what the fuck is this shit
117 euro from EoD
that is so bad
thats so much money
now we just need someone to post pics of Nikita leaving a BDSM club in London wearing a gimp suit to round it all off
stealing an employees breast milk or some shit
look for the revive feature
drop a shout if u see me there i need to buy a new keyboard
the eft discord community suggestions channel is the best
the what

sorry the revive/reinforcement


you can get an item that lets you call people into your raid from friend list
oh and if you have the new version and get fence 6 scavs won't shoot at you past 60m
ofc
uh what else is there
30% faster insurance returns, longer mail expiry
free weapon case, scav junkbox and some other case (also gamma)
2 extra pocket slots (your pockets are now a scav vest)
I think it's like roughly double the stash capacity of old EOD
maybe more including the boxes
yeah
start with some trader levels and skill levels
WAY more guns etc though that's kinda whatever
you fucking what 

don't sleep on the stats either, notice that it's absolute dogshit and unless I'm mistaken it's 4 headshots to kill anything with it
which I guess makes it not P2W? dunno if that cancels out the asset flip part lol
just the avg knife in tarkov then 
what is that description
oh and they have a PvE mode/coop now
BSG
persistent with no wipes, for the new edition only ofc
beg your pardon its fucking persistent????????
yeah for PVE you will keep your shit etc
really seems it

yeah reminder Applezor is held in a pretty tight leash by BSG
He aint allowed to say a lot of shit
Honestly he is only here so people wont cry BSG doesnt have a Comm Manager guy to talk to them
But he is useless
either way, he's just fanning the flames with his comments

one thing i'm curious about tho
can we build the final tier of the stash
or are we just cucked out of it 
new part is for this version only, enjoy cuck


I think I've literally bought, rimworld new DLC, zero sievert, helldivers 2, battlebit for less than the cost to upgrade EOD to new version lmao
i got hd2 for 28 euros
i could buy 10 helldiver copies for one final edition accoutn
I PAID 250 for the UNHEARD Edition, I will smile knowing you will have to view my name with a blue glow, as you return to ur 4 slot pockets, and i reload another 60 mag from my extended pockets, as you tetris you stash with NO fre scav junk box, Gun case and ammo box, as i have more space than i will ever need from wipe, with m80 and m8556A1 :eft_PrapKEK: , Cry me a rive n00bs, and u can call me shit but im payin for the Win, means im still WInning

Wait WHAT??
No pay to win my ass WTF
what the fuck
im crying
I look into Tarkov and see it being trashed
Call me Ivan
But I’m so glad
the sodium harvest is gonna be good this day 
i think its the biggest fumble this game ever done
i feel bad for the poor sods who mod the tarkov discord atm 
remember when the biggest salt ppl got was when we got a shit event?
a man ahead of his time
I’m just another Ivan the game raped me so much
bought eod played for 2 wipes
The cheaters and bugs ruined it
For me anyways
Plus bsg sucks at managing anything
go play spt 
I take that back
no
dont have do deal with any of tarkovs bs
deserved
Im gonna go enjoy other games instead

they deserve everything
No clue why people act surprised dude
bsg deserve every little negative thing that is happening to them , cheaters and everything

man someone put me onto one of the top streams as info was coming out and the dude had like an MS paint fucking billboard thing going on
if you can't develop the game , then don't
charting his problems with it
no need to lie to the players
they CAN develop the game is the best part
they just don't want to pay anyone competent
YOU FUCKING WHAT


they just want to pay shitty devs
like 2 years ago when they were trying to push a big streamer event they hired some UK based devs with actual experience to fix their servers
then ended their contracts immediately after the event
before that they once implemented proper checks to prevent radar hacks and scaled up servers to cope with the extra load
after the event finished, back to normal
always has been
don't mind me just dropping my frames all over the ground because scav boss is nearby and I have to load 6 gigantic plaintext files
when its the facts
people should give 250€ for GAMMA dev so that I can pay someone to make it coop
wait what the FUCK
lmao unheard perks are fucking insane
start the game with 3x the stash space
meta guns
meta ammo
can you do it for free
i will send hugs and kisses
did iedy already post all the perks for it
a few did, feel free to post again
I'm still getting a laugh every time I see them
yeah its above
it's crazy............
no?
tarkov surely wont go pay to win he says
paying directly for stash space
ok thats just stash space
paying for skins
those are just skins
paying for endgame gear at wipe start

this is FUCKED
this has to be a late april fools
"heres an item that lets people JOIN YOU MID RAID"
call me crazy but guys
Hear me out
Maybe tigz the professor yapper was right
guys i cant wait for this edition to make it to spt
like how theres eod and whatever in there
IMAGINE THE CHEATERS THAT CAN USE THAT
It’s Joe over
Nikkta is gonna profit off of cheaters buying that edition

i think i should buy this
Effectively killing the entire game


Don’t you dare give that fat bastard a cent
but you have to pay for it
expanded pockets
more flea slots
increased mail time
fucking ETS access
You love it

He said he’s not aware of most of the things happening

See it under the light of gacha games
i mean
Guys no more Tarkov we are playing gacha
its cheaper than what ive spent on star citizen but its also fucked because starcitizen stuff can be earned thru playtime
Tarkov channel to gacha
im just a lazy bastard and want to start each wipe with a cool alien ship
this is stuff you cannot get without paying for
more like public sitting servers at some point
that people have been asking for ages
it's bound to happen
like just rent a 30€ server, sitting stuff on it, make a discord and provide access for 2€ a month


I can already
lmfao
with friend
spt go brrr 
Grok let me do the joke 
sitting like every human being in front of a computer
damn bsg when i said "let people pay for SIT but official" i didnt mean make it 250$ and lock it behind some other shit perks
nah its ok
real
nah it works
like just not w the online bit, just
tarkov really is the tarkov killer
PvE with those things
people say gray zone is
Where was u when
or like marathon is

tarkov was die
nah it was tarkov the whole time
tarkov aint dead there is going to be enough mouth breathers buying the new ed 
also besides the new ED shitshow
surely the new penetration mechanics isnt gonna be a shitshow 
Tbh
if they refunded all the EODs
I'd be fucking happy.
I wish I had that money back.
Here me out:
- Coop
- Mod support
- 60€ from scratch, 40€ for EOD players
- Arena offered as a limited time deal
They would be millionaires
never gonna happen
I know.
But I can dream
I'd give them the €40 or whatever it is for the base edition back
So I can continue playing SPT
i imagine ivan sitting infront of his PC like fucking palpatine right now seeing his agenda finally coming true 
been there for a few months
left the game cuz i didn't like that ask for more money and deliver nothing
0
so no
instead i just started going other things
like helldivers
or DnD
Lets hope grayzone is not gonna be a scummy dev hell
it will be
tldr since Iedy said i will be muted someday like everyone else?
dw
agenta ❌
prophecy ✅

but who cares at this point lmao
"Madfinger Games is a globally renowned independent game studio with a rich history of crafting award-winning titles played by millions worldwide."
we heard u the first time
They only made Grayzone lol
I guess it looks good, but there is no proof or history of proper game management so most likely will be same as BSG
Just in some different way
They have Women
And that game also has its problems
thats already different
like downtime, fps, sounds and blah balh
real
they're too greedy tho
real.
"oh we can charge more for coop if we have more features tacked onto it"
lame mfs
you know its fucked when you dont even care about them giving out weapon cases and junkboxes at wipe start in this edition
wouldnt wonder me if AI is taken by modders lol
its just the passive shit that should've been seperate 10$ dlcs or whatever
you really don't want another game like it ? (but better ofc)
"this is our new coop pve ai"
(literally just sains and swag+donut)
It's funny how a single modder has more power to fix the games issues than a whole dev team
Even the modders said they cant fix it further cause its such Spaghettie
just a guy with a little enthuiasm and will
bethesda tier
:)))))
That's what you get for making browser games into full projects
Shit developers -> writing shit code
Unity isnt even bad and they did a rather decent job BUT THE FUCKING BUGS
They need to dedicate time to that
would be cheaper to cheat though
and not HEY WE ADD COOP,ITS NOT DLC,PAY UP 120-250€
boy do I love this
Unity is perfectly fine engine, just tarkov is not the game for it
Ivan having a field day lol
Yeah, this is real
The cost of a new edition is the same as getting a DMA card
I always believed you 
🧁 have a cupcake for all your coping
when I spoke the truth , nobody else listened

now look at the communjty
you can sit on a chair like any human being
im a certified gaming chair owner
81% dislike ratio
Good sir thats a Carpet.
I had those 2 Bretagne Cars in front of me again today and im pretty sure its the Frenchman without a drivers licence which they already took 4 cars from.
Ivan needs a real good pat on his shoulders.
Dont get overexcited.Its not over.We will still see the peak of it
At this point I genuinely hope this game dies
You get one good update and they they fuck it up per usual
YES LMAO
Just wait till they die on this hill
20,67€ taxes
and take 0 accountability for the bad decisions
this should have been 40-50$ max to upgrade
im still baffled that they sell this shit without "taxes included"
im still up that its all a scam and they make me pay taxes twice
I go to shop
Game 80€
Il pay 80€
Simple
Il buy something from BSG
i want to pay
BAM FUCK YOU 20€ more

like its not even worth on 50% off
man this is fun as shit
real
its funny because for me personally
its only like 1$
you're just getting targeted by bsg
They cannot sell the PvE coop single
it has to be bundle included
OTHERWISE it will be DLC
Making it DLC automatcly should make it available to all EoD owners
And they said its not DLC
So i actualy even have to insist on getting the clothes and extra stash lines they sell cause its DLC
Yeah thats what i saw as well
They pulled a smart marketing move
Simpyl make everything else NON DLC
there
solved

scummy cunts
real
make all the random bits like pockets and radio items
expansions
ITS AN EXPANSION
shitty update is up
now i need to record the game downloading something when i buy an expansion
yeah i have a feeling everything else will be an expansion from now on
BAM evidence its DLC 
nah, europe has regarded tax laws
Yeah but those taxes are included in those prices
At least in Germany
Charging it on top of the already full price is just regarded
The only place where they add taxes at the cashier when you want to buy something is WHAT I HEARD America
And they do it
Ive seen it
i hate it
im just happy
BSG never got a cent from me
more pocket space
so we're there now huh
BSG growed up so fast
on becoming a money hungry AAA developer
update up

were also there
posting it for the 19043894893585 time
the fucking p2w of this game is incredible
i love this
they made SPT
just without the mods
its not free i payed for it xD
also a lot of p2w shit
like what
btw
250€ for PvE Coop without wipes and real progression
ping me if soemone posts the pockets
more flea slots
I want to see the pocket size lmao
Wonder if you can sell PvE shit in PvP
Flea
lol
Just dont buy it?
PvE is fuckin sleeper
Well its part of the "unheard edition"
yeah sometimes but like
its maybe a dollar max in taxes on the cashier
for grovery stuff
give BSG a break
wait wait wait
no wipes
does that mean they'll keep it as is forever
no this is the PVE version
or SPT version
will they just never update it
gey is censored

or will they do that and not wipe on update
🤠 sorry pardner
But also PvE is extremely sleeper
they bought that asset for 7 euro
the problem is not pve
we don't care about it
the problem is
the p2w shit that they added
like marker of the gey men
mark of the unheard
Anyway thing is they fucking up every EoD owner since they said EoD gets all DLC and they smart and say "hurrr thats not DLC" and they want EoD owners to pay 120€ for an upgrade of their edition and literaly Tarkov Discord is burning since they scammed every EoD owner by lying 
Sniper scav never shoots at you 
all for a broken game in Beta
not really, it's just prevent people to say "hey that's gay"
Its ok to be G... from the other side of the River
Id rather people be allowed to say that while Im also allowed to be myself 
not even allowed to refund it
So maybe Im boutta make an unpoopular opinion
but EoD was already very much borderline or over borderline P2W
hey thats kinda...

that's what i said
hi charon
i refunded reforger because all the servers were fucked for me
there is no difference then

yeah let me get this
epsilon case
through a painful line of quests
while eod accounts can just access gamma
very fair and right
Even the stash space does correlate to more money and feeling a lot safer
its not pay to win bro, its just pay to nopt spend 40 hours grinding punisher

my friend
:3
literally considered buying eod
just because of stash space
that's how painful it was
i'll go buy grey zone warfare
at least i can refund it if i don't like it
atleast late spring woods is pretty
did he get pve
Idk
Accidentally remixed it
Why the fuck is it even a thing
It’s loading tho
My data is to shit nvm

